俄国航空工业领导声称J20象征意义大于实际意义

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China's 5G fighter 'a showoff'

China's fifth-generation fighter program is more for effect than substance, Russia's leading aircraft maker said on Monday.

China carried out its first test-flight of a fifth-generation stealth fighter in January.

"It was more a demonstration than a real program," Mikhail Pogosyan, head of United Aircraft Corporation, said.

The Chinese aircraft industry is developing successfully but it lacks what is required for a breakthrough, he said.

"There will be no breakthroughs here. Great scale and great experience are needed to carry out such programs," Pogosyan said.

Russia is testing its own fifth-generation aircraft T-50 PAK FA developed by the Sukhoi design bureau. The aircraft is expected to become operational in 2015.

China's prototype Black Silk J-20 stealth fighter is thought to be similar to the U.S. F-22 Raptor and the Russo-Indian T-50 jets, although imagery and video footage appearing on the internet suggested the Chinese model is larger. This means it could be capable of flying a longer range and carrying a heavier load.

China has been working on a future fighter program since the mid-1990s, and the J-20 is notionally anticipated to enter service around 2018-2020.


出处:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110620/164727664.html
这是昨天(620)新推出的报道。
简单翻译一下:

中国五代机项目象征意义大于实际意义,周一俄罗斯航空工业领导人做出上述表示。
1月,中国五代机进行了首次试飞。
“这看上去更像验证机而非准备实际运用的设计。”俄国航空工业联合体领导人Mikhail Pogosyan如是说。
中国航空工业发展势头良好,不过仍然缺乏突破,他说。
“(中国五代机项目)缺乏技术突破,因为中国人还缺乏相关领域的经验和精确度。”Pogosyan表示。

俄国已经试飞了苏霍伊设计的T50五代机,并计划于2015年投入使用。
中国的“黑丝”原型机被认为与美国F22,俄国印度联合研制之T50相当,不过照片和视频显示似乎中国飞机尺寸更大。这意味着它或许可以拥有更大航程或载酬。
中国自1990年代中期即开始下一代战机研发,J20估计将于2018-1020年投入使用。China's 5G fighter 'a showoff'

China's fifth-generation fighter program is more for effect than substance, Russia's leading aircraft maker said on Monday.

China carried out its first test-flight of a fifth-generation stealth fighter in January.

"It was more a demonstration than a real program," Mikhail Pogosyan, head of United Aircraft Corporation, said.

The Chinese aircraft industry is developing successfully but it lacks what is required for a breakthrough, he said.

"There will be no breakthroughs here. Great scale and great experience are needed to carry out such programs," Pogosyan said.

Russia is testing its own fifth-generation aircraft T-50 PAK FA developed by the Sukhoi design bureau. The aircraft is expected to become operational in 2015.

China's prototype Black Silk J-20 stealth fighter is thought to be similar to the U.S. F-22 Raptor and the Russo-Indian T-50 jets, although imagery and video footage appearing on the internet suggested the Chinese model is larger. This means it could be capable of flying a longer range and carrying a heavier load.

China has been working on a future fighter program since the mid-1990s, and the J-20 is notionally anticipated to enter service around 2018-2020.


出处:
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110620/164727664.html
这是昨天(620)新推出的报道。
简单翻译一下:

中国五代机项目象征意义大于实际意义,周一俄罗斯航空工业领导人做出上述表示。
1月,中国五代机进行了首次试飞。
“这看上去更像验证机而非准备实际运用的设计。”俄国航空工业联合体领导人Mikhail Pogosyan如是说。
中国航空工业发展势头良好,不过仍然缺乏突破,他说。
“(中国五代机项目)缺乏技术突破,因为中国人还缺乏相关领域的经验和精确度。”Pogosyan表示。

俄国已经试飞了苏霍伊设计的T50五代机,并计划于2015年投入使用。
中国的“黑丝”原型机被认为与美国F22,俄国印度联合研制之T50相当,不过照片和视频显示似乎中国飞机尺寸更大。这意味着它或许可以拥有更大航程或载酬。
中国自1990年代中期即开始下一代战机研发,J20估计将于2018-1020年投入使用。


感觉俄国友人发言很酸啊。

感觉俄国友人发言很酸啊。
the Russo-Indian T-50 jets,瞧这名字,三哥这60亿美元花的也算值了~~
感觉俄国友人发言很酸啊
There will be no breakthroughs here. Great scale and great experience are needed to carry out such programs

毛子对TG的了解恐怕仅限于苏霍伊(中国)沈阳分公司
白杨M 象征意义大于实际意义 我也会说 不过我真的酸白杨M啊
印度友人刚刚访问了俄罗斯么,当然要提振下信心,让后续资金尽快跟进,不然油价下跌,财政又要告急了。
毛子对TG的了解恐怕仅限于苏霍伊(中国)沈阳分公司
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应该是TG忽悠局沈阳分公司
刚喝完醋说的
按照毛子的划代方法,20不能算五代啊,tg又没有变后掠翼机机
毛子酸溜溜的
那家伙祖籍山西。

制裁飞砖 发表于 2011-6-21 10:00
There will be no breakthroughs here. Great scale and great experience are needed to carry out such p ...


1句话骂了2个淫。呵呵:victory::D
制裁飞砖 发表于 2011-6-21 10:00
There will be no breakthroughs here. Great scale and great experience are needed to carry out such p ...


1句话骂了2个淫。呵呵:victory::D
不用理会竞争对手的发言。
好一个酸字了得。
毛子对TG的了解恐怕仅限于苏霍伊(中国)沈阳分公司


我去毛子哪儿看了一下
其实很多毛子也对老波子很不屑
有的观点还是不错的
真觉得没什么就淡然处之甚至说些客套话


我去毛子哪儿看了一下
其实很多毛子也对老波子很不屑
有的观点还是不错的
真觉得没什么就淡然处之甚至说些客套话
是不是石榴的实际意义才真正大于象征意义呢?苏霍伊总部配合沈阳分部开始吹风了呀~
老毛子现在说话太酸了,看到别人比自己强嫉妒了!
T50象征意义都没有。。。
葡萄真的很酸
走自己的路,让别人说去吧
走自己的路,让别人说去吧
唉,怎一个酸字了得
自妻,妻人!
有些人也不看看那个设计局的总师,要说关系米格可比苏伊对某飞来的亲.
现在米格不也已经属于苏霍伊了么?不对,人家是城里联合体了。
2011-6-21 11:07 上传

Mikhail Pogosyan
175799024 发表于 2011-6-21 11:00
有些人也不看看那个设计局的总师,要说关系米格可比苏伊对某飞来的亲.
怎么没头没脑来了这么一句

这里没有总师啊?
站在俄国人的角度,新一代战机不但要更新俄军机队,更重要的是能够出口创汇给航空工业输血——其实还是《残金缺玉》一文的老观点
这样分析,就能理解歼20象征意义大于实际意义的说法了,呵呵
恩  该怎么弄就怎么弄,这些媒体不用搭理
pupu 发表于 2011-6-21 11:07
Mikhail Pogosyan
PUPU的图很给力啊。
我在老外论坛看到老外的回复:
If you have made something which is clearly superior to something someone else has produced, would you ever really feel the urge to bash the other person's work?

China's engineers and officials have said little about the PAKFA, but Russian officials and designers have been lining up to bad mouth the J20 to everyone who would listen and their dog.

You can all make your own minds up on who feels confident and who feels threatened.
我很确定,T50存在的唯一意义是马扁三哥的银子
pupu 发表于 2011-6-21 11:07
Mikhail Pogosyan
当年毛子是如何推销茅屋的?
asherhoa 发表于 2011-6-21 11:22
PUPU的图很给力啊。
我在老外论坛看到老外的回复:
If you have made something which is clearly supe ...
看来,老外论坛上也是“局外”的网民比较清醒!
现在只曝光了1架 小白兔是腹黑的。说不定早就设计好了。只是故意拿个早期型出来给你看,说我们还要时间。
当然也不排除确实是还要时间研制完善。 反正我们有了第四代战斗机。早晚的事情。
我草 要是他们t50是黑丝外形 而黑丝是t50外形 想想Y会怎么说?
咱猜猜北边的水果出来后毛子咋说
台风表示你们都是渣渣,老子才是天下第二。
经验?老毛子有5代机的经验吗?老美开始的时候也没有吧?!