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Neither the Office of the U. S. Secretary of Defense nor Air Force Space Command would comment on the attack, which followed by several months the alleged illumination of a U. S. military spacecraft by a Chinese ground based laser.

I was about to mention this ! The US were very quite about the above too !
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QUOTE(must7 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:09 AM)

I was about to mention this ! The US were very quite about the above too !



They don't have much to say.

Chinese hasn't demoed how to use a ballistic missle to strike an aircraft carrier thousand of miles away.
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I think it is just a blow for more funding piece, I don't think Chinese has that kind of capability yet
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QUOTE(Sixth @ Jan 18 2007, 12:11 PM)

I think it is just a blow for more funding piece, I don't think Chinese has that kind of capability yet



US issued the protest to China for testing that already, but they haven't figoured out which western system Chinese copied from.
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QUOTE(Sixth @ Jan 18 2007, 12:11 PM)

I think it is just a blow for more funding piece, I don't think Chinese has that kind of capability yet


ASAT is here from 80's tried by soviet/US , quite useless other than world catastrophic.

u can kill sats on LOS, obviously not spy sats they are so damn small.

far more useful is space based weapon system, remember anything launched 4m ground can be detected first from space.
QUOTE(ac/dc @ Jan 18 2007, 01:21 PM)

u can kill sats on LOS, obviously not spy sats they are so damn small.

far more useful is space based weapon system, remember anything launched 4m ground can be detected first from space.



You have no idea what you talk about.

Today's spy sat is huge, measured by 10 tons to collect the high-resolution image, the small ones don't provide that capabilities. Plus the orbit of the test covers from spy to gps sat, all most everything except communication sats. That didn't happen by chance.

And it's the same technology of NMD, a warhead goes similarily like a sat in out space.
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This is significant in military terms, it means China and her firends will not be bullied in the future no matter F22 or something like that. This is one level above them.

Otherwise you won't see such a fuss, but who cares.


Jan 18, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States, Australia and Canada have voiced concerns to China over a test in space of a satellite-killing weapon last week, the White House said on Thursday.

"The U.S. believes China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the spirit of cooperation that both countries aspire to in the civil space area," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. "We and other countries have expressed our concern regarding this action to the Chinese."

Using a ground-based medium-range ballistic missile, the test knocked out an aging Chinese weather satellite about 537 miles above the earth on January 11 through "kinetic impact," or by slamming into it, Johndroe said.

Canada and Australia had joined in voicing concern, he said.

Britain, South Korea and Japan were expected to follow suit, an administration official added.
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US issued the protest to China for testing that already, but they haven't figoured out which western system Chinese copied from.

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If it's true, it's a major technological achievement for China.

Nothing to protest, the protestor should protest any make of f-22, aircraft carrier, shooting up of all communication sats etc, etc, all those are military machines too.


f-22, f-35, aircraft carrier etc. etc. military machines are directly killing people, those killing machines are enhance by military communitcation satellites, so, killing a military communitcation satellites, is disableing the effectiveness of a killing machines, therefore, satellite killer is a peace maker.
Screw what the westerns have to say., China has the right to develop weapons to safe guard themselves, and weapons that hurt communication of possible enemies.

Their is always a hero for the weak, and this time its CHINA (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/ChinaFlag.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/ChinaFlag.gif)
I have to say congrad to their workers, who designed the weapon, and as Sixth put it, it's a peace maker.

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US condemns China 'space weapon'
The United States, Australia and Canada have criticised China over a weapons test it is said to have carried out in space last week.

The Americans say the Chinese sent up a ballistic missile to destroy an ageing weather satellite.

They say the test went against the spirit of co-operation both countries aspire to in the area of civil space.

Reports say Britain, South Korea and Japan were expected to express their concerns to China soon.

Earlier, a report in the American Aviation Week magazine said that US spy agencies had concluded that China conducted a successful test of a satellite-killing weapon on January 11.

It said China knocked out the weather satellite with a "kinetic kill vehicle" launched on board a ballistic missile.

The impact occurred at more than 500 miles (800 km) above Earth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6276543.stm
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>>>"The U.S. believes China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the spirit of cooperation that both countries aspire to in the civil space area," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. "We and other countries have expressed our concern regarding this action to the Chinese."

The US should remind that they were the first to induct a satkiller (there are enough pictures with that hanging under F15). No if China does the same it is not correct? I find it the standard action by the west to blaim others while they move away kyoto, Weapon treaties and everything else... It must be hurting that non western nations are growing this fast...

for nonbelievers...

http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/histind/ASAT/F15ASAT.html#Flight

or...

In the late 1970s, even before the advent of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), an anti-satellite (ASAT) mission evolved for the F-15 Eagle.

The goal of ASAT weapons is the neutralization of enemy military satellites in the event of war, particularly low-orbiting reconnaissance, ELINT, and ocean surveillance satellites. The Soviets had their own antisatellite program in which a killer satellite would rendezvous with the target satellite and explode. The American equivalent involved the arming of an F-15 Eagle with a missile which would be launched against an orbiting satellite from a zoom climb at an altitude of 80,000 feet.

In 1979, a contract was issued to Vought for an air-launched low Earth-orbit antisatellite vehicle. The Vought ASM-135A that emerged was a two-stage rocket, with a first stage derived from the AGM-69 SRAM-A and a second stage derived from the Altair III rocket. The ASM-135A weighed about 2700 pounds at launch and was 18 feet long. The payload of the ASM-135A consisted of a miniature kinetic kill vehicle which used an infrared seeker to home in on the target satellite, destroying it by impact. No explosive warhead was to be needed.

F-15A 76-0086 was modified for trials with the Vought ASM-135A. The ASM-135A was carried on the centerline station of the F-15. The aircraft had to be specially wired to accommodate the ASM-135A missile, and had to be provided with backup battery, microprocessor, and datalink for midcourse guidance.

Beginning in the early 1980s, captive flights were made with the missile in place, the aircraft zoom climbing to altitudes as high as 80,000 feet. The first actual launch of an ASM-135A from an F-15 took place in January 1984, the missile being aimed at a predetermined point in space. Subsequently, three launches of the ASM-135A were made against celestial infrared sources.

The first and only ASM-135A launch against an actual target satellite took place on September 13, 1985, when F-15A 77-0084 of the 6512th Test Squadron stationed at Edwards AFB took off from Vandenberg AFB and zoom-climbed up to 80,000 feet and then launched the ASAT against the Solwind P78-1, a gamma ray spectroscopy satellite that had been launched in February of 1979. Both the first and second stages fired successfully, and the miniature kinetic kill vehicle separated and homed in on the satellite, destroying it upon impact.

The test was a success in that it demonstrated that the basic concept was feasible. However, it enraged arms control advocates, who saw the test as a violation of a joint US/Soviet treaty forbidding the development and testing of antisatellite weapons. Solar scientists were not happy about the test either, since although the Solwind P78-1 that was killed had officially completed its mission, it was still sending back useful data.

Initial plans were made to modify twenty F-15As for the antisatellite mission and to assign them to the 48th TFS at Langley AFB in Virginia and the 318th TFS at McChord AFB in Washington. These squadrons had each received three or four F-15A/B airframes which had been rewired for ASAT operations. However, Congress was unwilling to permit any further testing of the system, and the ASAT program was officially terminated in 1988.

Sources:

1. McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920, Volume II, Rene J. Francillon, Naval Institute Press, 1990.

2. Combat Aircraft F-15, Michael J. Gething and Paul Crickmore, Crescent Books, 1992.

3. The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Armament, Bill Gunston Orion, 1988.

4. The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion, 1987.

5. The World's Great Interceptor Aircraft, Gallery Books, 1989.

6. F-15 Eagle, Robert F. Dorr, World Airpower Journal, Volume 9, Summer 1992.
QUOTE(yakeepi @ Jan 18 2007, 01:31 PM)

You have no idea what you talk about.

Today's spy sat is huge, measured by 10 tons to collect the high-resolution image, the small ones don't provide that capabilities. Plus the orbit of the test covers from spy to gps sat, all most everything except communication sats. That didn't happen by chance.

And it's the same technology of NMD, a warhead goes similarily like a sat in out space.


actually you dont have idea what your talking about if your saying spy sats are 10 tonne.

pictures are diff and each country has right to ban taking pics.

spy sats has diff role, use of pseudo codes, intercepting signals etc etc.

also Indias TES spy sat i dont remember the SAR size is DAMN DAMN SMALL and provides better imagery than cartosat 1.

there is huge diff between spy sats and imagery sats.

you dont KNOW what kind of problems for all the sats on that orbit can cause if one sat is destroyed.
I think if china uses ASAT's often fine, they should also clear the debris after collision on the orbit.

munir please check the thing was terminated in 1988, and think of consequences the sats in the same orbit could face off the debris.

This is like India like Popov and Alibek in ussr days, developes bio weapons do u think it'll be acceptable?
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QUOTE(ac/dc @ Jan 18 2007, 03:52 PM)

actually you dont have idea what your talking about if your saying spy sats are 10 tonne.

pictures are diff and each country has right to ban taking pics.

spy sats has diff role, use of pseudo codes, intercepting signals etc etc.

also Indias TES spy sat i dont remember the SAR size is DAMN DAMN SMALL and provides better imagery than cartosat 1.

there is huge diff between spy sats and imagery sats.

you dont KNOW what kind of problems for all the sats on that orbit can cause if one sat is destroyed.
I think if china uses ASAT's often fine, they should also clear the debris after collision on the orbit.

munir please check the thing was terminated in 1988, and think of consequences the sats in the same orbit could face off the debris.

This is like India like Popov and Alibek in ussr days, developes bio weapons do u think it'll be acceptable?




US KH-12 sat, the current one in service, is 20 TONS. Even KH-11 used in 70s weights 14 TONS.

I don't care what you claimed about Indian ones, I know where you get that and it's not a concern for Chinese. You have a lot stuff on the paper which only have entertainment value but not the real threat.
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(IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/LOLANI.GIF) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/LOLANI.GIF) Yes yes the usual 'protests' from the West are coming down like rain. Meanwhile, China keeps doing what she wants. I have a feeling that isn't going to change (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/smile.gif)
Bitching Americans tell me why I ain't surprised. (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/LOLANI.GIF) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/LOLANI.GIF)

GO GO CHINA!!!
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16694039/

Bold move escalates space war debate

China’s satellite shootdown has military, diplomatic implications

Analysis
By James Oberg
NBC News space analyst
Special to MSNBC
Updated: 3:53 p.m. PT Jan 18, 2007


One week ago, a major “space first” occurred high over west central China — and in total darkness. No fiery explosion or glowing clouds would have been seen. But an aging Chinese satellite was instantaneously converted into a 542-mile-high cloud of metallic confetti.

As first reported in Aviation Week and Space Technology, and confirmed a few hours later by National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe, U.S. intelligence agencies believe that China launched a medium-range military missile from its Xichang spaceport and guided it into a high-speed, head-on collision with a weather satellite called Fengyun-1C.

For the first known time in history, a missile launched from the ground destroyed an orbiting satellite. The event is supposed to have occurred about 5:30 p.m. ET on Jan. 11, or 6:30 a.m. Beijing time Jan. 12.

Previous anti-satellite weapons tests, conducted during the Cold War, involved either co-orbiting killer satellites (the Soviet approach) or an air-launched anti-satellite missile (the U.S. approach, also considered by the Soviets but never attempted). Some tests involved shooting ground-based anti-missile missiles toward satellites, but those missiles never hit their mark. And a NASA flub of a robot rendezvous in 2004 resulted in the active satellite accidentally hitting — but not damaging — its target satellite.

Extraordinary chain of events
Many of the details surrounding last week's event are classified — but even the unclassified information confirms that something extraordinary occurred.

The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, routinely releases reports on the orbits of hundreds of satellites of interest. Fengyun was the subject of about one or two reports per day throughout 2006, going into early January. But there were three reports on Jan. 10, then five reports on Jan. 11. And there have been no reports on Fengyun-1C since the time of the reported disintegration.

Rumors of an “energetic breakup” started circulating last weekend. A spokesman for the U.S. Strategic Command reported having no information about the breakup — but considering the hundreds of different pieces that are probably now being tracked, it can take a week or more to make sense of the radar returns.

Evidence of an actual missile launch would require tracking data from infrared observation satellites operated by the Pentagon. While that information would be highly classified, the obvious confidence among officials promoting this interpretation implies that they do, in fact, possess that sort of evidence.

It remains remotely possible that Fengyun blew up on its own, as many satellites and derelict rockets do when leftover fuel eventually mixes and ignites. But according to an expert who talked privately with MSNBC.com, the satellite “had little or no prop[ellant]; the only internal energy source might be batteries, which don't have that much energy. So it would be easy to rule out internal causes.”

Fengyun's loss also could be due to a massive meteoroid or orbital debris hit, occurring coincidentally within range of China’s main space launch base. But the odds of that are even smaller.

How big — and how high — a threat?
Why Fengyun became such an object of interest to U.S. military intelligence agencies in the days before the missile launch remains intriguing — and possibly of critical importance. Perhaps the retired satellite had been reactivated, and observers recognized this as an omen of the impending fireworks.

The last orbital data released by NORAD seem to show one end of the satellite's orbit being raised by about 20 miles (32 kilometers). Such tweaking is characteristic of a satellite lining up its orbital path for a rendezvous with a ground-launched visitor. The international space station does this in preparation for Russian spacecraft visits.

In fact, the reason the U.S. Air Force chose the air-launched anti-satellite system is that it does not have to have its target line up with a ground-based missile pad. Naturally, a real target in the real world would never make such a helpful maneuver.

Without the target’s maneuver to make itself easier to kill, a ground-based shot would likely have to be made from the side — or “out of plane,” in space navigation parlance. With such a geometry, the final approach for physical contact occurs under much higher rates of angular change, making terminal guidance much more difficult. It can be done, but with less reliability.

The geometry of this particular test (and also, whether this test was the first shot, or the fourth or fifth or more) remains classified. But further leaks and revelations can be expected.

How to avoid a space bullet
Also to be expected are suggested schemes for countermeasures. First of all, space is not under a uniform hazard from ground-based weapons. The higher you are, the less threatened you are. This is partly a matter of travel time: It could take a weapon four to six hours to reach a target in the 24-hour geosynchronous arc over the equator, where critical observation and applications satellites are located. But it's also a matter of accuracy and closing speed. Higher orbits pose much more of a challenge for weapons that depend on a fast relative closing speed for a “kill.”

In lower orbits, the best defense is a good pretense. That is, a potential target may survive by not allowing its hunters to know where it is accurately enough to get a warhead on a collision course. Either the target follows an adequately unpredictable orbit (often only a matter of being a few miles away from where the killer expects it to be), or it is accompanied by decoys in nearby orbits.

Deploying a larger number of smaller satellites is also an option. Being able to launch replacement satellites quickly has been considered, but producing and stockpiling enough spare payloads and boosters — and then getting the payload activated quickly enough once it arrives in space — has proven to be an operational and engineering nightmare.

The last-ditch defense — actually trying to stop an incoming impactor — remains a science-fiction dream. And that is largely because the “kill mechanism” of the weapon is so very, very simple.

It’s a throwback to the first weapons our remote ancestors used on the African savannah: Hit the sucker with a rock.
Hi, All Pakistan friends here,

I am from China, and I can tell you that our military has this kind of capabilities already. Several years before, I have heard that kind of comment. In fact, there are so many astonishing weapons in china that it beyond all kinds of imagination. hehe !

Additionally, Do please transfer my greeting to all Pakistani you meet in your country!
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how does it compare to dis: http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/
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QUOTE(Pak-Sinoer @ Jan 19 2007, 09:20 AM)

Hi, All Pakistan friends here,

I am from China, and I can tell you that our military has this kind of capabilities already. Several years before, I have heard that kind of comment. In fact, there are so many astonishing weapons in china that it beyond all kinds of imagination. hehe !

Additionally, Do please transfer my greeting to all Pakistani you meet in your country!



Welcome on PDF, hopefully you stay here with us for long time!
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http://www.spacedaily.com/2006/070119121801.jgjrr8n1.html

China plays down fears after satellite shot down

BEIJING, Jan 19 (AFP) Jan 19, 2007

China Friday played down fears of a military space race after US spy agencies said it had shot down a satellite for the first time, drawing condemnation from Washington and its Asian allies.
A foreign ministry spokesman, while declining to confirm the incident, said other countries should not be alarmed.

"There's no need to feel threatened about this," Liu Jianchao told journalists.

"So far we have not got any confirmed information about this," he said, adding that China had no intention of triggering an arms race in space.

"We are not going to get into any arms race in space," he said.

Washington said China fired a missile to destroy an orbiting weather satellite last week, making it the third country after the United States and the former Soviet Union to shoot down anything in space.

If confirmed, the test would mean China could now theoretically shoot down spy satellites operated by other nations.

The ageing Chinese weather satellite was hit on January 11 US time and may have left considerable debris behind, a US official said.

The US magazine Aviation Week and Space Technology first reported a test, which was confirmed by the White House.

The magazine said the missile was fired from the Xichang space center in central Sichuan province and had destroyed a Chinese weather satellite that was launched in 1999.

The impact reportedly occurred more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) above Earth, high enough to hit orbiting satellites.

The White House was quick to condemn the reported test.

"The United States believes China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the spirit of cooperation that both countries aspire to in the civil space area," said national security spokesman Gordon Johndroe.

Japan, which has long been concerned at China's rapidly growing military spending, joined the United States in condemnation.

"From the view of the peaceful use of space and international security, we naturally have concerns about it," Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuhisa Shiozaki, the government spokesman, told a news conference.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso said the test is "questionable from the viewpoint of peaceful use (of space) because there could be concerns of scattered debris," he said.

In Taiwan, which China considers a province awaiting reunification, defence ministry spokesman Wu Chi-fang said: "Any weapons developed by China would affect the security in the Taiwan Strait."

South Korea conveyed its concern, while Australia summoned China's ambassador.

"Our concern about this is that to have a capacity to shoot down satellites in outer space is not consistent with the traditional Chinese position of opposition to the militarisation of outer space," Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said.

If confirmed, it would be the first case since the 1980s, when the United States and Soviet Union both destroyed satellites in space. The two superpowers ceased the tests largely because of the problem of debris.

But US President George W. Bush's administration has opposed international calls to end all tests, saying in a policy paper last fall that the United States had the right to "freedom of action" in space.

China had been a leading critic of Washington's policy on the military use of space, raising the possibility that the reported test was a calculated diplomatic strategy.

"The test was shocking for its symbolism," said Yasunori Matogawa, a professor of space engineering at the Japan's Institute of Space and Astronautical Science.

"China proved its deterrent power," he added, predicting that Japan could enter a race to catch up.

"It may fuel the argument that Japan should develop space technology for national defense, especially as it came in the midst of the North Korean nuclear crisis," Matogawa said.

China, which in 2003 became the third country to carry out a manned space mission, can now theoretically shoot down spy satellites operated by the United States, Japan, Russia, Israel and Europe, Aviation Week said.
Dear motherland in China I support you


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看见这家伙的签名了?现在中国人还真的到处都是啊...)
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QUOTE(pirateofthecarribean @ Jan 19 2007, 09:07 AM)

how does it compare to dis: http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/





Laser? Hmmmmm, China also has the land based Laser. Remember the news last year, CHina used the laser


to blind a satellite?
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does laser work over cloud?
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My Salutes to China!

My Love for China!

My prayers for China!

May there ever be peace and joy in that country- Ameen!

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QUOTE(pirateofthecarribean @ Jan 19 2007, 11:47 AM)

does laser work over cloud?


No,we cann't,in fact all the Chinese technologies are far behind the USA's as you wish so plz do not be nervous .(IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/BANANA.GIF) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/BANANA.GIF) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/BANANA.GIF) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/BANANA.GIF) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/BANANA.GIF)
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Neither the Office of the U. S. Secretary of Defense nor Air Force Space Command would comment on the attack, which followed by several months the alleged illumination of a U. S. military spacecraft by a Chinese ground based laser.

I was about to mention this ! The US were very quite about the above too !
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QUOTE(must7 @ Jan 18 2007, 09:09 AM)

I was about to mention this ! The US were very quite about the above too !



They don't have much to say.

Chinese hasn't demoed how to use a ballistic missle to strike an aircraft carrier thousand of miles away.
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I think it is just a blow for more funding piece, I don't think Chinese has that kind of capability yet
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QUOTE(Sixth @ Jan 18 2007, 12:11 PM)

I think it is just a blow for more funding piece, I don't think Chinese has that kind of capability yet



US issued the protest to China for testing that already, but they haven't figoured out which western system Chinese copied from.
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QUOTE(Sixth @ Jan 18 2007, 12:11 PM)

I think it is just a blow for more funding piece, I don't think Chinese has that kind of capability yet


ASAT is here from 80's tried by soviet/US , quite useless other than world catastrophic.

u can kill sats on LOS, obviously not spy sats they are so damn small.

far more useful is space based weapon system, remember anything launched 4m ground can be detected first from space.


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QUOTE(ac/dc @ Jan 18 2007, 01:21 PM)

u can kill sats on LOS, obviously not spy sats they are so damn small.

far more useful is space based weapon system, remember anything launched 4m ground can be detected first from space.



You have no idea what you talk about.

Today's spy sat is huge, measured by 10 tons to collect the high-resolution image, the small ones don't provide that capabilities. Plus the orbit of the test covers from spy to gps sat, all most everything except communication sats. That didn't happen by chance.

And it's the same technology of NMD, a warhead goes similarily like a sat in out space.
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This is significant in military terms, it means China and her firends will not be bullied in the future no matter F22 or something like that. This is one level above them.

Otherwise you won't see such a fuss, but who cares.


Jan 18, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States, Australia and Canada have voiced concerns to China over a test in space of a satellite-killing weapon last week, the White House said on Thursday.

"The U.S. believes China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the spirit of cooperation that both countries aspire to in the civil space area," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. "We and other countries have expressed our concern regarding this action to the Chinese."

Using a ground-based medium-range ballistic missile, the test knocked out an aging Chinese weather satellite about 537 miles above the earth on January 11 through "kinetic impact," or by slamming into it, Johndroe said.

Canada and Australia had joined in voicing concern, he said.

Britain, South Korea and Japan were expected to follow suit, an administration official added.
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US issued the protest to China for testing that already, but they haven't figoured out which western system Chinese copied from.

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If it's true, it's a major technological achievement for China.

Nothing to protest, the protestor should protest any make of f-22, aircraft carrier, shooting up of all communication sats etc, etc, all those are military machines too.


f-22, f-35, aircraft carrier etc. etc. military machines are directly killing people, those killing machines are enhance by military communitcation satellites, so, killing a military communitcation satellites, is disableing the effectiveness of a killing machines, therefore, satellite killer is a peace maker.


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引用(交流/直流@2007年1月18日,下午1时21分)美国就可以杀死协助挑选邻舍, 显然不是间谍协助挑选他们那么小家伙. 更为有用的是空间武器系统,记着什么可以探测地面发射0.00从第一天. 你不知道你谈谈. 今天的间谍坐在巨大,逾期收10吨的高清晰度图像、 小公司没有说明能力. 加上轨道测试涵盖从坐定位为间谍,所有的沟通协助挑选最万事俱备. 这并非偶然. 它的导弹防御技术的同时,同样像坐在弹头推移出空间. ========================这是军事上的意义, 这意味着中国与她的朋友,不会被人欺负不论在今后二氟一氯甲烷或什么的. 这是一个级别以上. 否则你不会看到这样的举动,但谁在乎. 2007年1月18日-华盛顿(路透社)-美国 澳大利亚和加拿大都表示了关注中国的卫星在太空试验杀人武器上周 白宫说,周四. "美国认为中国的发展和测试这类武器,不符合两国的合作精神,渴望在民用航天领域的"国家安全会议发言人戈登johndroe说. "我们和其他国家都对此表示关切,并向中国" 采用地面中程弹道导弹, 淘汰老化试验气象卫星中国地球上空约537英里1月11日通过的"动能冲击,"砰或进入, johndroe说. 加拿大和澳大利亚已加入道出关心,他说. 英国、南韩和日本均可望仿效,行政官员也表示. 西区抗议中国对美国发出的测试,已经 但他们没有哪figoured抄袭西方的制度中. ---如果这是真的,它的一个主要技术指标. 没有抗议,抗议者应该做出任何抗争型F-22,航空母舰 通讯等各项协助挑选出拍摄等,这些都是军事机器. 歼22,歼35,航空母舰等等等等军事机器是直接杀人, 那些杀人机器communitcation加强军事卫星,所以,杀死一个军事communitcation卫星 disableing成效是一个杀人机器,因此,卫星是和平制造者杀手.
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Screw what the westerns have to say., China has the right to develop weapons to safe guard themselves, and weapons that hurt communication of possible enemies.

Their is always a hero for the weak, and this time its CHINA (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/ChinaFlag.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/PDFEmotionIconsv10/ChinaFlag.gif)
I have to say congrad to their workers, who designed the weapon, and as Sixth put it, it's a peace maker.

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US condemns China 'space weapon'
The United States, Australia and Canada have criticised China over a weapons test it is said to have carried out in space last week.

The Americans say the Chinese sent up a ballistic missile to destroy an ageing weather satellite.

They say the test went against the spirit of co-operation both countries aspire to in the area of civil space.

Reports say Britain, South Korea and Japan were expected to express their concerns to China soon.

Earlier, a report in the American Aviation Week magazine said that US spy agencies had concluded that China conducted a successful test of a satellite-killing weapon on January 11.

It said China knocked out the weather satellite with a "kinetic kill vehicle" launched on board a ballistic missile.

The impact occurred at more than 500 miles (800 km) above Earth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6276543.stm
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>>>"The U.S. believes China's development and testing of such weapons is inconsistent with the spirit of cooperation that both countries aspire to in the civil space area," National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. "We and other countries have expressed our concern regarding this action to the Chinese."

The US should remind that they were the first to induct a satkiller (there are enough pictures with that hanging under F15). No if China does the same it is not correct? I find it the standard action by the west to blaim others while they move away kyoto, Weapon treaties and everything else... It must be hurting that non western nations are growing this fast...

for nonbelievers...

http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/histind/ASAT/F15ASAT.html#Flight

or...

In the late 1970s, even before the advent of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), an anti-satellite (ASAT) mission evolved for the F-15 Eagle.

The goal of ASAT weapons is the neutralization of enemy military satellites in the event of war, particularly low-orbiting reconnaissance, ELINT, and ocean surveillance satellites. The Soviets had their own antisatellite program in which a killer satellite would rendezvous with the target satellite and explode. The American equivalent involved the arming of an F-15 Eagle with a missile which would be launched against an orbiting satellite from a zoom climb at an altitude of 80,000 feet.

In 1979, a contract was issued to Vought for an air-launched low Earth-orbit antisatellite vehicle. The Vought ASM-135A that emerged was a two-stage rocket, with a first stage derived from the AGM-69 SRAM-A and a second stage derived from the Altair III rocket. The ASM-135A weighed about 2700 pounds at launch and was 18 feet long. The payload of the ASM-135A consisted of a miniature kinetic kill vehicle which used an infrared seeker to home in on the target satellite, destroying it by impact. No explosive warhead was to be needed.

F-15A 76-0086 was modified for trials with the Vought ASM-135A. The ASM-135A was carried on the centerline station of the F-15. The aircraft had to be specially wired to accommodate the ASM-135A missile, and had to be provided with backup battery, microprocessor, and datalink for midcourse guidance.

Beginning in the early 1980s, captive flights were made with the missile in place, the aircraft zoom climbing to altitudes as high as 80,000 feet. The first actual launch of an ASM-135A from an F-15 took place in January 1984, the missile being aimed at a predetermined point in space. Subsequently, three launches of the ASM-135A were made against celestial infrared sources.

The first and only ASM-135A launch against an actual target satellite took place on September 13, 1985, when F-15A 77-0084 of the 6512th Test Squadron stationed at Edwards AFB took off from Vandenberg AFB and zoom-climbed up to 80,000 feet and then launched the ASAT against the Solwind P78-1, a gamma ray spectroscopy satellite that had been launched in February of 1979. Both the first and second stages fired successfully, and the miniature kinetic kill vehicle separated and homed in on the satellite, destroying it upon impact.

The test was a success in that it demonstrated that the basic concept was feasible. However, it enraged arms control advocates, who saw the test as a violation of a joint US/Soviet treaty forbidding the development and testing of antisatellite weapons. Solar scientists were not happy about the test either, since although the Solwind P78-1 that was killed had officially completed its mission, it was still sending back useful data.

Initial plans were made to modify twenty F-15As for the antisatellite mission and to assign them to the 48th TFS at Langley AFB in Virginia and the 318th TFS at McChord AFB in Washington. These squadrons had each received three or four F-15A/B airframes which had been rewired for ASAT operations. However, Congress was unwilling to permit any further testing of the system, and the ASAT program was officially terminated in 1988.

Sources:

1. McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920, Volume II, Rene J. Francillon, Naval Institute Press, 1990.

2. Combat Aircraft F-15, Michael J. Gething and Paul Crickmore, Crescent Books, 1992.

3. The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Aircraft Armament, Bill Gunston Orion, 1988.

4. The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion, 1987.

5. The World's Great Interceptor Aircraft, Gallery Books, 1989.

6. F-15 Eagle, Robert F. Dorr, World Airpower Journal, Volume 9, Summer 1992. Google 翻译Yahoo 翻译雅虎宝贝鱼Click2TranslateCross LanguageAltavistaSYSTRAN金山快译PROMTExcite JapanKODENSHA : 阿拉伯语中文(简体)英语法语德语意大利语日语朝鲜语葡萄牙语俄语西班牙语 到 阿拉伯语中文(简体)法语德语意大利语日语朝鲜语葡萄牙语俄语西班牙语  
要说有什么的螺丝西方人. ,中国有权制定自己的武器安全警卫、 通信和武器伤害的可能的敌人. 他们永远是英雄的薄弱,这一次的中国 (集团:style_emoticons/pdfemotioniconsv10/ chinaflag.gif) ( 集团:style_emoticons/pdfemotioniconsv10/c hinaflag.gif) 我要说congrad自己的员工,他们设计的武器,并把它作为第六, 国和平使者. ===================================美国谴责中国'太空武器的美国, 澳大利亚和加拿大都批评了中国兵器试验据说上周在太空进行. 美国人说,中国派出了一个弹道飞弹击毁老龄气象卫星. 他们说测试背道而驰合作精神追求两国在该地区的民间空间. 报道说,英国、南韩和日本,预计不久表达关注中国. 此前, 报道说,美国航空周刊说,美国情报机构已结束了对中国进行了成功的试验卫星1月11日武器杀死. 它说,中国的气象卫星淘汰了"动能杀手"船上发射弹道导弹. 对发生在500多英里(800公里)以上的地球. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia- ... ===================>>>"美国认为中国的发展和测试这类武器,不符合两国的合作精神,渴望在民用航天领域的"国家安全会议发言人戈登johndroe说. "我们和其他国家都对此表示关切,并向中国" 他们提醒说,美国应率先引导了satkiller(有足够的照片挂在与女性15). 如果中国不一样是不正确的? 我觉得西方的标准来责怪别人的行动虽然搬走京都 武器条约和一切:: 它必须不伤害到这个西方国家越来越快:: 答:杯弓蛇影 #::或者飞行http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/histind/asat/f15asat.html 70年代末,还没到来的战略防御倡议(战略防御计划), 反卫星(反卫星)使命演变为F-15鹰式. 反卫星武器的目标是瓦解敌人的军事卫星在发生战争 特别低轨道侦察、电子情报、海洋监视卫星. 苏联方面有自己的反卫星卫星将节目中一名杀手,与目标星交会,并爆炸. 参与武装相当于美国的F-15鹰式飞弹具有将射向卫星轨道从变焦爬在海拔80,000英尺. 1979年,合同vought发出了空中发射低地球轨道车辆反卫星. <汇编vought-135a条有的是二级火箭, 从第一阶段以AGM-45型SRAM的69-一、第二阶段从阿尔泰三号火箭. <汇编-135a条重约2700磅,并在发射18英尺长. <汇编载荷-135a条组成一个缩影动能杀手所为家使用红外线导引的目标卫星 摧毁它的影响. 没有爆炸性弹头,是需要. 歼15A条与1976年至0086年被改装为审判vought汇编-135a条. <汇编-135a条是关于站长中心线的F-15. 飞机已被特意有线容纳汇编-135a条导弹 并已获得后备电池、微处理器、数据进行制导. 在八十年代初开始,圈养班机与导弹到位, 变焦飞机爬升到海拔高达80000英尺. 首次推出了实际汇编-135a条由一架F-15发生在1984年1月, 针对飞弹在太空预定点. 随后,3轮的汇编-135a条作了反对红外线天体的来源. 首只
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个人链接的新闻材料比较多,没什么新意
大部分就是西方媒体cnn的报道,其他帖子早就翻译过来了,好像有几个热心的中国军迷在摇旗呐喊
软件翻的,就不看了