《海军路战队也该买F-22》--美海军路战队少校分析员,转 ...

来源:百度文库 编辑:超级军网 时间:2024/04/29 09:54:51
文章论点主要集中为考虑到F-35B计划受财政问题面临下马,而海军路战队尚不具备战机替代“B”计划,同时F-22也面临年内停产的窘境而提出。

论点主要包括:
1.相对F-35B研制更加低廉的F-22生产线重启资金需求
2.F-22的采购金费将比F-35B的采购加初期服役维护和形成战斗力所需经费更加便宜
3.F-22将比F-35B可以更早服役并且形成战斗力
4.F-22比F-35有更强的隐身、速度、战场生存力、机动力、前缘部署能力和战斗力,其电子设备也更成熟,改进空间也更大
5.F-22将可以部署在比空军阿拉斯加,关岛,夏威夷等基地更前沿的海外海军路战队场站,提供比空军更快速的对危机的反应和前线战场的支持
6.F-22将同时提供海军路战队现急需的空中电子压制平台,而无需依赖海军的支持

同时该文章指出
1.海军路战队可以采购60架F-22,用于取代其现役4个中队的F/A-18D战斗机,作为海军路战队高端空中制空打击力量
2.F-22将得到对地攻击战场感知系统升级,并积极采用外部挂架装备远程对地武器提供冲突首日战场关键目标打击
3.海军路战队将采购类似于OV-10的廉价近距战场遮断/支援战机替代现役A/V-8B战斗机,作为路战队低端空中力量
4.现阶段海军路战队还计划采购80架F-35C战斗机用于航母或前线场站为基础的战场支援

本文在MD多家军事网站转载,并有投票显示,多达61%的网友支持该文章关于F-22替代F-35B的建议。

原文如下:

F–35B Needs a Plan B
Options to rising costs of the aircraft

Author:  Maj Christopher J. Cannon
In December 2010 the Commandant was quoted as stating “there is not a plan B” to the F–35B program.1 In effect our Marine Corps has “derivatives of plan A,” based on a 1998 decision, that all rely on the short takeoff/vertical landing (STOVL) F–35B being produced. “We decided we would skip a generation of what we called fourth-generation airplanes . . . and we would end up putting all of our money and our hopes in the F–35B.” This decision has become particularly troubling in regard to the high costs associated with the program, the program’s current status, and our United States Marine Corps reputation for plans and preparations. Part of serving as the Nation’s force-in-readiness is our ability to plan, prepare, and maintain both perception and reality that the Marine Corps is most ready when the Nation is least ready. One well-known statement toward Marine readiness came in 1971, during the “Pentagon Papers” investigation. When cross-examined and asked if the Marine Corps had been preparing to fight in Vietnam and Cambodia back in 1964, LtGen Victor H. Krulak famously replied yes and that “we were preparing to fight in a lot of other places, too.”
   
How do we describe the plan to develop the F–35B? Let’s try expensive to start. Development costs for the entire Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program were estimated at $25 billion at inception in 19962 and by 2004 had grown 80 percent. Thankfully, in 2008 the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found there had been no additional increases in development costs. Unthankfully, this was because “development costs were held constant by reducing requirements, eliminating the alternate engine program, and spending management reserve faster than budgeted.”3 Late is an apt description for the program too. Once envisioned to have an initial operational capability (IOC) as early as 2010, IOC has now been put off to 2016. Our Marine Corps has had late weapons systems before. But we have never had a weapons system so expensive.4
   
What about acquisitions costs? From program start in 2001, the JSF was estimated to cost $233 billion5 for total program acquisition.6 This was the teaser price, the estimate grew to $245 billion in 2004, $279 billion in 2007, and in 2008 the JSF program office’s estimate was $300 billion,7 a 29 percent increase over the original figure. However, GAO found that this 2008 estimate was not reliable, comprehensive, accurate, well documented, or credible. Worse, no uncertainty analysis has been conducted (acquisition may cost $298 billion; it may cost $500 billion). The only thing that is certain, the $300 billion estimate was “virtually certain to be wrong.”8 In 2010, after a Nunn-McCurdy breach—a required formal review whenever program costs increase anywhere from 15 percent to 50 percent over expectations—GAO’s latest 2011 estimate is a total JSF program acquisition cost of $383 billion. Using coarse analysis and acknowledging that from 2001 to 2011 estimated program cost grew about $16.7 billion a year, when IOC begins in 5 more years we might expect a $466 billion acquisition cost—exactly double the original estimate. (See Figure 1.)


Figure 1. Estimated F–35 acquistions and operations and support costs, in billions. (Graph provided by author.)

But procurement costs are less than half of the problem; life cycle costs are the lion’s share. In 2005 the estimated procurement and remaining life cycle costs, typically described as operations and support, were $245 billion and $344 billion,9 respectively. In 2008, for the scheduled 2,457 aircraft, the program office’s estimate had grown from $344 billion to $650 billion in operations and support costs. GAO reports that historically operations and support represent 72 percent of total costs. If acquisition represents 28 percent of total costs and GAO’s $383 billion acquisition estimate holds true, then operations and support costs would be an estimated $985 billion. This figure grows to $1.198 trillion using the $466 billion acquisition cost estimate. For a more empirical and optimistic measure, assume support cost estimates increase by merely $306 billion over the next 6 years (as they have the past 6 years) for a total of $956 billion in support estimates in 2017. GAO says that the next official independent life cycle cost estimate for JSF is not scheduled until 2014.10 However, a 21 April article appearing in Bloomberg News stated that the Pentagon’s cost analysis and program evaluation group, which estimates $1 trillion in operation and support costs, was to complete a major F–35 review in May.11
   
So why are foreign militaries spending their money on the JSF? Simple, they are not. JSF’s principal international partners include Australia, Canada, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Turkey, and the United Kingdom (UK). None of these nations have received more than test models. Israel is a security cooperation partner, and the cost of their 19 F–35As has spiraled to $145 million each. Lockheed Martin is offsetting the costs by paying them $4 billion.12 The UK, the only F–35B partner, canceled its F–35B program in favor of F–35Cs, which are capable of landing on an aircraft carrier and which won’t be available before 2019. A British study suggests that C model operating costs will be 25 percent less than B models. Spain operates a version of the Harrier but has no scheduled buys. Italy’s first four F–35s, scheduled to arrive in 2014, have been switched from STOVL to conventional aircraft.13 At this point in the program, cancelling the F–35B only affects the Marine Corps.

This is the precipice where the STOVL variant stands now. In November 2010 the President’s Fiscal Commission,14 and in April 2011 The New York Times,15 called for the elimination of the F–35B (as well as the V–22). The Wall Street Journal16 has made similar suggestions as early as July 2010. In January 2011 the Secretary of Defense put the F–35B program in a 2-year probation period stating, “If we cannot fix this variant in this time frame and get it back on track in terms of performance, cost and schedule, then I believe it should be cancelled.” This is after the program has been redesigned multiple times, and the program manager, a Marine major general, was fired in February 2010.
   
Program redesigns have not had favorable Marine outcomes recently. The expeditionary fighting (EFV) vehicle program had its final redesign in March of 2010,17 when the projected acquisition cost was $12 billion. At the time our senior leadership stated, “We have high hopes for these new vehicles.”18 Yet this did not prevent the program’s cancellation in January 2011 when costs had increased to $14 billion. When current leadership expresses their high hopes for the F–35B, we can be certain that the Marine variant is set for cancellation. Hope, as the saying goes, is not a course of action.
   
So what does an F–35B plan B look like? What if the F–35B is part of the $400 billion in Department of Defense (DoD) cuts the President announced in April that he wanted to make over the next 10 years? First, plan B must source replacement aircraft for our Marine attack squadrons (VMAs). According to the fiscal year 2011 (FY11) Marine Fixed-Wing Aviation Plan, the VMA’s mission is to “support the MAGTF commander by destroying surface targets, and escort friendly aircraft, day or night, under all weather conditions during expeditionary, joint or combined operations.”
   
More specifically, Marine Corps Warfighting Publication 3–2, Aviation Operations, defines VMA missions as antiair warfare (AAW), offensive air support (OAS), and air reconnaissance, as well as escorting assault support missions. Marine leadership has a stated desire for aircraft able to deploy with the rest of our maneuver unit (i.e., STOVL jets flying off LHAs without well decks that the Navy built for us). This capability doubles the number of “carrier-type capital ships”—11 Navy carriers and 11 big-deck amphibs—that can deploy fifth-generation fighters. The FY11 plan, which preceded the F–35B program probation decision, called for a reduction in VMA squadrons from seven squadrons in FY13 to one remaining squadron in FY20. In light of the F–35B decision, the FY12 plan will deviate significantly from that proposed in FY11. Is the F–35B the only capability that can fulfill the VMA’s mission?
   
Second, plan B must facilitate the transition plan of ship- and shorebased F/A–18 model aircraft. The carrier-based F–35C does not appear to be in jeopardy of cancellation. The Marine Corps already plans to buy 80 F–35Cs,19 so even if the F–35B is cancelled, our Marine all-weather fighter/attack squadrons (VMFAs) have replacements in the pipe. Hence, changes to carrier aviation are not a critical part of any new plan B, yet it bears mentioning and watching as F–35 program costs continue to increase.
   
Third, plan B must include an airborne electronic attack (AEA) replacement capability, with the suspense being the planned sundown of Marine tactical electronic warfare squadrons (VMAQs) in FY19. Although often underestimated, this is a critical aviation function. Electronic warfare is important in establishing air superiority, conducting strikes, supporting a broad array of efforts from shaping to decisive operations to stability operations, and in defeating modern antiaccess capabilities that may threaten our amphibious operations. Currently there are two Marine aviators on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. There are two STOVL aircraft the United States produces that can perform these required missions. If pay grades above our top two Marines decide to cancel the F–35B program, our Corps has two recourses—extend the other program (AV–8B) or completely redefine our requirement, concepts, and doctrines.
   
Politically, the easiest F–35B plan B would be to purchase F–35Cs earlier, while holding out hope for a reversal of the F–35B cancellation. This is essentially the plan General Electric (GE) enacted this year, continuing work on the JSF’s alternative engine,20 even though funding was cut in April 2011. GE’s hope is that funding gets picked up again in the FY12 budget. Of the three requirements, this plan B merely hopes for a reversal in the cancellation of a desired VMA replacement, buys VMFA replacements earlier at more expense, and accepts undesirable risk in assuming that emerging jammer technology will fit into an immature JSF variant for VMAQ replacement. We can do better with less money.
   
The Marine Corps could start by departing from its recent history of leading edge, extremely risky acquisitions programs and focus on proven, efficient technologies. On the low end of the cost spectrum, a revised plan B could incorporate a small high-duration aircraft specializing in light attack, forward air control, and supporting counterinsurgency operations. This idea was proposed by the IMMINENT FURY project and supported by then Joint Forces Command’s Gen James N. Mattis in 2009. IMMINENT FURY suggested immediately using an OV–10 or EMB 314 Super Tucano (flyaway cost, $9 million), which can loiter 6 hours unrefueled. Such a platform, if capable of launching and recovering from LHAs, could fulfill all VMA missions except for AAW. A long-term replacement could be procured in the 2028 time frame, when the Air Force may look toward replacing the A–10C with a similar aircraft.
   
On the high end, the Marine Corps could opt for the most capable AAW platform available, the F–22. Embracing an aircraft Congress recently voted to stop producing may seem like an extreme course of action, but it makes the most sense for the Marine Corps for several reasons. First, F–22s could be purchased now and would be cheaper initially and cost less to maintain than F–35s in the future. The current DoD plan is to buy 50 Marine Corps F–35B aircraft through 2016 at a cost of $9 billion, or $190 million per aircraft.21 In 2011, flyaway costs for the F–22 are a reported $150 million per aircraft.22  The U.S. Air Force estimates flying hour costs for the F–22 are $44,259 per hour.23 The 2008 GAO report24 estimated $33,000 per flying hour in a JSF aircraft.25 However, F–35B costs will likely be higher than A and C models. Additionally, the 2011 GAO update states that “current JSF life-cycle cost estimates are considerably higher than the legacy aircraft it will replace.” If their most recent estimate of $1 trillion in operations and support costs proves true, F–35 flying hour costs will exceed $50,000 an hour. In other words, using current estimates, total life cycle costs for every F–35 exceeds that of an F–22 by almost $100 million per plane. Certainly there would be a cost to restart the F–22 manufacturing base, but this expense is easily dwarfed by these F–35 life cycle costs.
   
Most significantly, the F–22 dwarfs the F–35 in stealth, speed, survivability, deployability, and firepower. With a more mature and more powerful active electronically scanned array radar, and with planned upgrades, the F–22 is a more credible and less risky investment to fulfill the VMAQ’s AEA mission. The F–22 also represents a better platform for AEA upgrades.
   
Significantly, this course of action would accept providing only 11 fifth-generation fighter-capable carriers. It may also require making inroads in positioning Marine F–22s in more expeditionary stations than those in Hawaii, Alaska, California, Nevada, New Mexico, Florida, and Virginia, where all F–22 aircraft are currently stationed. Forward postured Marine F–22s could provide the Nation with greater strategic reach than amphibious-based F–35Bs. With a supercruise speed of 1,220 miles per hour, an aerial refueled F–22 could make the 1,700-mile transit from Guam to Taiwan in less than 2 hours.
   
Future Marine Corps involvement with the F–22 program could include testing air-to-ground weapon loads on the four external 5,000-pound-rated hard points and incorporating some of the ambitious close air support-enabling avionics and software upgrades currently only planned in the F–35. In the future, this would provide the Marine Corps with the most capable, stealthy AAW fighter for day one of any campaign. In the latter days of a conflict, an upgraded F–22 could serve as our most efficient and effective OAS asset. With proper development, the same platform could serve as the MAGTF’s AEA asset; conduct intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance; or even provide control for other aircraft or missiles. This would be all at less cost than the F–35B and without the threat of cancellation looming the next 2 years.
   
A high/low plan B could focus on acquiring approximately 60 F–22 aircraft to replace 5 F/A–18D squadrons scheduled to begin decommissioning in FY14 and removed from service by FY20. These aircraft would provide more capability and cost less than the estimates for the F–35B. For the cost of one F–35B, the Marine Corps could acquire and support 10 counterinsurgency-focused aircraft with a 6-hour loiter time. Seven squadrons, each consisting of 14 OV–10-like aircraft, could provide AV–8B replacements, gap the STOVL requirement while waiting for technology to mature, and pass the savings on to the taxpayer as part of the Commander in Chief’s $40 billion a year in cuts. Other options are available at less risk than betting on F–35B continuation in the next 2 years. It is time for an F–35B plan B.

图表显示现阶段和预期F-35计划的采购,使用和维护年开支

文章论点主要集中为考虑到F-35B计划受财政问题面临下马,而海军路战队尚不具备战机替代“B”计划,同时F-22也面临年内停产的窘境而提出。

论点主要包括:
1.相对F-35B研制更加低廉的F-22生产线重启资金需求
2.F-22的采购金费将比F-35B的采购加初期服役维护和形成战斗力所需经费更加便宜
3.F-22将比F-35B可以更早服役并且形成战斗力
4.F-22比F-35有更强的隐身、速度、战场生存力、机动力、前缘部署能力和战斗力,其电子设备也更成熟,改进空间也更大
5.F-22将可以部署在比空军阿拉斯加,关岛,夏威夷等基地更前沿的海外海军路战队场站,提供比空军更快速的对危机的反应和前线战场的支持
6.F-22将同时提供海军路战队现急需的空中电子压制平台,而无需依赖海军的支持

同时该文章指出
1.海军路战队可以采购60架F-22,用于取代其现役4个中队的F/A-18D战斗机,作为海军路战队高端空中制空打击力量
2.F-22将得到对地攻击战场感知系统升级,并积极采用外部挂架装备远程对地武器提供冲突首日战场关键目标打击
3.海军路战队将采购类似于OV-10的廉价近距战场遮断/支援战机替代现役A/V-8B战斗机,作为路战队低端空中力量
4.现阶段海军路战队还计划采购80架F-35C战斗机用于航母或前线场站为基础的战场支援

本文在MD多家军事网站转载,并有投票显示,多达61%的网友支持该文章关于F-22替代F-35B的建议。

原文如下:

F–35B Needs a Plan B
Options to rising costs of the aircraft

Author:  Maj Christopher J. Cannon
In December 2010 the Commandant was quoted as stating “there is not a plan B” to the F–35B program.1 In effect our Marine Corps has “derivatives of plan A,” based on a 1998 decision, that all rely on the short takeoff/vertical landing (STOVL) F–35B being produced. “We decided we would skip a generation of what we called fourth-generation airplanes . . . and we would end up putting all of our money and our hopes in the F–35B.” This decision has become particularly troubling in regard to the high costs associated with the program, the program’s current status, and our United States Marine Corps reputation for plans and preparations. Part of serving as the Nation’s force-in-readiness is our ability to plan, prepare, and maintain both perception and reality that the Marine Corps is most ready when the Nation is least ready. One well-known statement toward Marine readiness came in 1971, during the “Pentagon Papers” investigation. When cross-examined and asked if the Marine Corps had been preparing to fight in Vietnam and Cambodia back in 1964, LtGen Victor H. Krulak famously replied yes and that “we were preparing to fight in a lot of other places, too.”
   
How do we describe the plan to develop the F–35B? Let’s try expensive to start. Development costs for the entire Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program were estimated at $25 billion at inception in 19962 and by 2004 had grown 80 percent. Thankfully, in 2008 the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found there had been no additional increases in development costs. Unthankfully, this was because “development costs were held constant by reducing requirements, eliminating the alternate engine program, and spending management reserve faster than budgeted.”3 Late is an apt description for the program too. Once envisioned to have an initial operational capability (IOC) as early as 2010, IOC has now been put off to 2016. Our Marine Corps has had late weapons systems before. But we have never had a weapons system so expensive.4
   
What about acquisitions costs? From program start in 2001, the JSF was estimated to cost $233 billion5 for total program acquisition.6 This was the teaser price, the estimate grew to $245 billion in 2004, $279 billion in 2007, and in 2008 the JSF program office’s estimate was $300 billion,7 a 29 percent increase over the original figure. However, GAO found that this 2008 estimate was not reliable, comprehensive, accurate, well documented, or credible. Worse, no uncertainty analysis has been conducted (acquisition may cost $298 billion; it may cost $500 billion). The only thing that is certain, the $300 billion estimate was “virtually certain to be wrong.”8 In 2010, after a Nunn-McCurdy breach—a required formal review whenever program costs increase anywhere from 15 percent to 50 percent over expectations—GAO’s latest 2011 estimate is a total JSF program acquisition cost of $383 billion. Using coarse analysis and acknowledging that from 2001 to 2011 estimated program cost grew about $16.7 billion a year, when IOC begins in 5 more years we might expect a $466 billion acquisition cost—exactly double the original estimate. (See Figure 1.)


Figure 1. Estimated F–35 acquistions and operations and support costs, in billions. (Graph provided by author.)

But procurement costs are less than half of the problem; life cycle costs are the lion’s share. In 2005 the estimated procurement and remaining life cycle costs, typically described as operations and support, were $245 billion and $344 billion,9 respectively. In 2008, for the scheduled 2,457 aircraft, the program office’s estimate had grown from $344 billion to $650 billion in operations and support costs. GAO reports that historically operations and support represent 72 percent of total costs. If acquisition represents 28 percent of total costs and GAO’s $383 billion acquisition estimate holds true, then operations and support costs would be an estimated $985 billion. This figure grows to $1.198 trillion using the $466 billion acquisition cost estimate. For a more empirical and optimistic measure, assume support cost estimates increase by merely $306 billion over the next 6 years (as they have the past 6 years) for a total of $956 billion in support estimates in 2017. GAO says that the next official independent life cycle cost estimate for JSF is not scheduled until 2014.10 However, a 21 April article appearing in Bloomberg News stated that the Pentagon’s cost analysis and program evaluation group, which estimates $1 trillion in operation and support costs, was to complete a major F–35 review in May.11
   
So why are foreign militaries spending their money on the JSF? Simple, they are not. JSF’s principal international partners include Australia, Canada, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Turkey, and the United Kingdom (UK). None of these nations have received more than test models. Israel is a security cooperation partner, and the cost of their 19 F–35As has spiraled to $145 million each. Lockheed Martin is offsetting the costs by paying them $4 billion.12 The UK, the only F–35B partner, canceled its F–35B program in favor of F–35Cs, which are capable of landing on an aircraft carrier and which won’t be available before 2019. A British study suggests that C model operating costs will be 25 percent less than B models. Spain operates a version of the Harrier but has no scheduled buys. Italy’s first four F–35s, scheduled to arrive in 2014, have been switched from STOVL to conventional aircraft.13 At this point in the program, cancelling the F–35B only affects the Marine Corps.

This is the precipice where the STOVL variant stands now. In November 2010 the President’s Fiscal Commission,14 and in April 2011 The New York Times,15 called for the elimination of the F–35B (as well as the V–22). The Wall Street Journal16 has made similar suggestions as early as July 2010. In January 2011 the Secretary of Defense put the F–35B program in a 2-year probation period stating, “If we cannot fix this variant in this time frame and get it back on track in terms of performance, cost and schedule, then I believe it should be cancelled.” This is after the program has been redesigned multiple times, and the program manager, a Marine major general, was fired in February 2010.
   
Program redesigns have not had favorable Marine outcomes recently. The expeditionary fighting (EFV) vehicle program had its final redesign in March of 2010,17 when the projected acquisition cost was $12 billion. At the time our senior leadership stated, “We have high hopes for these new vehicles.”18 Yet this did not prevent the program’s cancellation in January 2011 when costs had increased to $14 billion. When current leadership expresses their high hopes for the F–35B, we can be certain that the Marine variant is set for cancellation. Hope, as the saying goes, is not a course of action.
   
So what does an F–35B plan B look like? What if the F–35B is part of the $400 billion in Department of Defense (DoD) cuts the President announced in April that he wanted to make over the next 10 years? First, plan B must source replacement aircraft for our Marine attack squadrons (VMAs). According to the fiscal year 2011 (FY11) Marine Fixed-Wing Aviation Plan, the VMA’s mission is to “support the MAGTF commander by destroying surface targets, and escort friendly aircraft, day or night, under all weather conditions during expeditionary, joint or combined operations.”
   
More specifically, Marine Corps Warfighting Publication 3–2, Aviation Operations, defines VMA missions as antiair warfare (AAW), offensive air support (OAS), and air reconnaissance, as well as escorting assault support missions. Marine leadership has a stated desire for aircraft able to deploy with the rest of our maneuver unit (i.e., STOVL jets flying off LHAs without well decks that the Navy built for us). This capability doubles the number of “carrier-type capital ships”—11 Navy carriers and 11 big-deck amphibs—that can deploy fifth-generation fighters. The FY11 plan, which preceded the F–35B program probation decision, called for a reduction in VMA squadrons from seven squadrons in FY13 to one remaining squadron in FY20. In light of the F–35B decision, the FY12 plan will deviate significantly from that proposed in FY11. Is the F–35B the only capability that can fulfill the VMA’s mission?
   
Second, plan B must facilitate the transition plan of ship- and shorebased F/A–18 model aircraft. The carrier-based F–35C does not appear to be in jeopardy of cancellation. The Marine Corps already plans to buy 80 F–35Cs,19 so even if the F–35B is cancelled, our Marine all-weather fighter/attack squadrons (VMFAs) have replacements in the pipe. Hence, changes to carrier aviation are not a critical part of any new plan B, yet it bears mentioning and watching as F–35 program costs continue to increase.
   
Third, plan B must include an airborne electronic attack (AEA) replacement capability, with the suspense being the planned sundown of Marine tactical electronic warfare squadrons (VMAQs) in FY19. Although often underestimated, this is a critical aviation function. Electronic warfare is important in establishing air superiority, conducting strikes, supporting a broad array of efforts from shaping to decisive operations to stability operations, and in defeating modern antiaccess capabilities that may threaten our amphibious operations. Currently there are two Marine aviators on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. There are two STOVL aircraft the United States produces that can perform these required missions. If pay grades above our top two Marines decide to cancel the F–35B program, our Corps has two recourses—extend the other program (AV–8B) or completely redefine our requirement, concepts, and doctrines.
   
Politically, the easiest F–35B plan B would be to purchase F–35Cs earlier, while holding out hope for a reversal of the F–35B cancellation. This is essentially the plan General Electric (GE) enacted this year, continuing work on the JSF’s alternative engine,20 even though funding was cut in April 2011. GE’s hope is that funding gets picked up again in the FY12 budget. Of the three requirements, this plan B merely hopes for a reversal in the cancellation of a desired VMA replacement, buys VMFA replacements earlier at more expense, and accepts undesirable risk in assuming that emerging jammer technology will fit into an immature JSF variant for VMAQ replacement. We can do better with less money.
   
The Marine Corps could start by departing from its recent history of leading edge, extremely risky acquisitions programs and focus on proven, efficient technologies. On the low end of the cost spectrum, a revised plan B could incorporate a small high-duration aircraft specializing in light attack, forward air control, and supporting counterinsurgency operations. This idea was proposed by the IMMINENT FURY project and supported by then Joint Forces Command’s Gen James N. Mattis in 2009. IMMINENT FURY suggested immediately using an OV–10 or EMB 314 Super Tucano (flyaway cost, $9 million), which can loiter 6 hours unrefueled. Such a platform, if capable of launching and recovering from LHAs, could fulfill all VMA missions except for AAW. A long-term replacement could be procured in the 2028 time frame, when the Air Force may look toward replacing the A–10C with a similar aircraft.
   
On the high end, the Marine Corps could opt for the most capable AAW platform available, the F–22. Embracing an aircraft Congress recently voted to stop producing may seem like an extreme course of action, but it makes the most sense for the Marine Corps for several reasons. First, F–22s could be purchased now and would be cheaper initially and cost less to maintain than F–35s in the future. The current DoD plan is to buy 50 Marine Corps F–35B aircraft through 2016 at a cost of $9 billion, or $190 million per aircraft.21 In 2011, flyaway costs for the F–22 are a reported $150 million per aircraft.22  The U.S. Air Force estimates flying hour costs for the F–22 are $44,259 per hour.23 The 2008 GAO report24 estimated $33,000 per flying hour in a JSF aircraft.25 However, F–35B costs will likely be higher than A and C models. Additionally, the 2011 GAO update states that “current JSF life-cycle cost estimates are considerably higher than the legacy aircraft it will replace.” If their most recent estimate of $1 trillion in operations and support costs proves true, F–35 flying hour costs will exceed $50,000 an hour. In other words, using current estimates, total life cycle costs for every F–35 exceeds that of an F–22 by almost $100 million per plane. Certainly there would be a cost to restart the F–22 manufacturing base, but this expense is easily dwarfed by these F–35 life cycle costs.
   
Most significantly, the F–22 dwarfs the F–35 in stealth, speed, survivability, deployability, and firepower. With a more mature and more powerful active electronically scanned array radar, and with planned upgrades, the F–22 is a more credible and less risky investment to fulfill the VMAQ’s AEA mission. The F–22 also represents a better platform for AEA upgrades.
   
Significantly, this course of action would accept providing only 11 fifth-generation fighter-capable carriers. It may also require making inroads in positioning Marine F–22s in more expeditionary stations than those in Hawaii, Alaska, California, Nevada, New Mexico, Florida, and Virginia, where all F–22 aircraft are currently stationed. Forward postured Marine F–22s could provide the Nation with greater strategic reach than amphibious-based F–35Bs. With a supercruise speed of 1,220 miles per hour, an aerial refueled F–22 could make the 1,700-mile transit from Guam to Taiwan in less than 2 hours.
   
Future Marine Corps involvement with the F–22 program could include testing air-to-ground weapon loads on the four external 5,000-pound-rated hard points and incorporating some of the ambitious close air support-enabling avionics and software upgrades currently only planned in the F–35. In the future, this would provide the Marine Corps with the most capable, stealthy AAW fighter for day one of any campaign. In the latter days of a conflict, an upgraded F–22 could serve as our most efficient and effective OAS asset. With proper development, the same platform could serve as the MAGTF’s AEA asset; conduct intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance; or even provide control for other aircraft or missiles. This would be all at less cost than the F–35B and without the threat of cancellation looming the next 2 years.
   
A high/low plan B could focus on acquiring approximately 60 F–22 aircraft to replace 5 F/A–18D squadrons scheduled to begin decommissioning in FY14 and removed from service by FY20. These aircraft would provide more capability and cost less than the estimates for the F–35B. For the cost of one F–35B, the Marine Corps could acquire and support 10 counterinsurgency-focused aircraft with a 6-hour loiter time. Seven squadrons, each consisting of 14 OV–10-like aircraft, could provide AV–8B replacements, gap the STOVL requirement while waiting for technology to mature, and pass the savings on to the taxpayer as part of the Commander in Chief’s $40 billion a year in cuts. Other options are available at less risk than betting on F–35B continuation in the next 2 years. It is time for an F–35B plan B.

图表显示现阶段和预期F-35计划的采购,使用和维护年开支

Cannonchart1-small.jpg (0 Bytes, 下载次数: 11)

下载附件 保存到相册

2011-10-3 15:14 上传


链接呢
补链接
http://www.mca-marines.org/gazet ... %9335b-needs-plan-b
F22不会再生产了,除非中美开战,F35已经是政治问题,整个西方世界都被圈进来一旦F22复产那F35就会倒掉,事实上宣布F35是钓鱼工程政治后果很严重.
月经队这是蹬鼻子上脸啊
干脆把USAF并入陆战队得了...
娘娘停产可惜了
F22能和陆战队一起行动吗???
月经队纵是有通天的本事,我不太信这种想法能过元老院那关,毕竟月经队的项目也有被枪毙过的,如EFV远征战车
而且这样一来,海军和空军也会争相上来改进F22以装备自己,F35项目会严重受打击的,加上美国经济如此不景气,所以感觉这事挺扯淡的,只能是一厢情愿
而且说到“分析”,就让人想起当年那篇末尾说了句“宁可买SU27K也不用超级虫子换F14大改”的气话的那篇F14与F/A-18E/F的分析文。
军方再有需求,在这个美国经济困难、预算严重不足以至于更多由政治因素决定新武器命运的时代,这很可能也就是个美梦而已。
月经队要F22改- -机场哪儿来……?
啥都想要。兜里有钱么就YY了?
我不太信这种想法
这个。。。。。。。。。。。
是不大可能滴。。。。。。。
USMC也就是说说而已
娘娘MD不敢摔,摔了娘娘美名就毁了。

若是拿给MC用,真不知道是什么后果……

娘娘没个大改没法适应MC需求的
请问“海军路战队”是负责修马路的吗?
本来这只是一份分析报告罢了,但是最近上了网络MD国内到处议论纷纷,不过也从一个侧面说明MD对F-35B已经到了非常没有信心的地步,F-35B项目被砍基本已经是时间问题了。
F-35没有那么不堪,而F-22复出的可能性极其不乐观。
总共就20万人的军队,还非得什么都自搞一套,不知道浪费多少钱

体制问题,红果果的体制问题啊~~~

月经队自己把35B搞成这个鸟样,顺带还害惨了NAVY和AF,现在居然还有脸说要买F22?信不信USAF先把月经队给灭了?


陆战队好歹也是有光荣传统的,至少比USAF还历史悠久一点。人家虽然人数少,但是到了战时可都是冲锋陷阵开路做炮灰的干活,MD里面还真没有其他哪个军种敢在路战队面前大嗓门说话的,呵呵。

F-35B主要是英国和陆战队折腾出来的,现在英国跑路了,陆战队就觉得有点吃不消啊。

陆战队好歹也是有光荣传统的,至少比USAF还历史悠久一点。人家虽然人数少,但是到了战时可都是冲锋陷阵开路做炮灰的干活,MD里面还真没有其他哪个军种敢在路战队面前大嗓门说话的,呵呵。

F-35B主要是英国和陆战队折腾出来的,现在英国跑路了,陆战队就觉得有点吃不消啊。
话说就在昨天(但今天才得到消息), F-35B BF-2 已经成功降落在USS Wasp上了。现在坛子里有好几个帖子都在说F35B这事。
thomas1987 发表于 2011-10-4 11:01
月经队自己把35B搞成这个鸟样,顺带还害惨了NAVY和AF,现在居然还有脸说要买F22?信不信USAF先把月经队给灭 ...
F-35本来就是给月经队开发的- -
AF和NF最想干的还是把元老院全部TJJTDS
这个……想法是很好的……经费谁出啊?
alucrad 发表于 2011-10-4 16:31
F-35本来就是给月经队开发的- -
AF和NF最想干的还是把元老院全部TJJTDS
空军无所谓,搞成攻击机打下手也就罢了;海军心里不乐意,但也算顺坡打滚,先让你月经队折腾,等折腾出来发现不能维持海权的时候,再伸手跟元老院要钱重新搞一个

倒是月经队,好端端的项目搞成一锅粥
铁血男儿DKD 发表于 2011-10-4 15:14
话说就在昨天(但今天才得到消息), F-35B BF-2 已经成功降落在USS Wasp上了。现在坛子里有好几个帖子都在 ...
美国时间10月3号下午3点10分,不过不清楚是美国的哪个时间;但是肯定是中国的10月4号了……
韩五记好{:soso_e100:}

陆战队有两个痛,一是F35,一定要用,再怎么折腾也得用;另一个是V22,好歹可以用了,可是又解决不了重型直升机缺失的问题
笑脸男人 发表于 2011-10-3 15:34
月经队这是蹬鼻子上脸啊
马晕死的脸皮厚度简直不可以常理度之啊!
F-35现在是使劲蹦跶,但我以为结局已经注定了。没什么希望了。
F22对地能力弱,陆战队不务正业夺制空权…
韩五记 发表于 2011-10-4 18:38
美国时间10月3号下午3点10分,不过不清楚是美国的哪个时间;但是肯定是中国的10月4号了……
原来是这样,感谢纠正
加特林 发表于 2011-10-4 18:55
韩五记好

陆战队有两个痛,一是F35,一定要用,再怎么折腾也得用;另一个是V22,好歹可以用 ...
你还漏掉一个痛:本被USMC寄予厚望的EFV远征战车被元老院干掉了
仨儿子都想要IPAD.空军要了wifi,海军要了3G,陆战队想要双卡双待双蓝牙.看样子要被和谐=.=
papop 发表于 2011-10-5 00:43
你还漏掉一个痛:本被USMC寄予厚望的EFV远征战车被元老院干掉了
那个对于陆战队来说还真的不是特别急需,毕竟眼下美军不急需两栖强行登陆的能力。其实很多项目拿不到钱了,都是冷战时代的产物,现在不适用了。