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印尼正在筹资建设巽他海峡大桥。 链接：en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_Strait_Bridge
百度上这么说， "巽他海峡(Sund Strait) 位于苏门答腊岛和爪哇岛之间，印度尼西亚爪哇岛与苏门答腊岛之间的狭窄水道（东经105度40分，南纬6度零分），宽26～110公里，沟通太平洋的爪哇海与印度洋。"
因为经济性的缘故，它一直是马六甲海峡的备份。
这个建桥举动意义非凡：今后马六甲的菲力普通道就是唯一的海道了。
那么有人会说为什么不开挖泰国运河呢？过去的顾忌，除了巨额的资金需求外，多少有些是怕新马不高兴。好了，如今初一人家已经做了，还等什么？！
可能有人会说，泰国运河还是过不了超大油轮，那就要看怎么做了。要是财力足够，可以建得足够深足够阔，顺便，运砂石去填出一个曾母省来。当然，理智的做法是跟日本韩国台湾等合资，先建成再说。
一个严重依赖外贸的经济需要一个更快捷的航运通道；一个自洽的两洋海军一定需要一条连接两洋的运河，否则时间上不利。
以下是些支持性事实：
“Pre 2000
Various references made as early as the 1960s to the possibility of building a bridge across the Sunda Strait. From time to time, senior political figures, academics, and others, mentioned the desirability of considering the project.[6]
2007
Early announcements made of plans to build the bridge. Early costs of $10 bn were mentioned.
2009
Aug: A pre-feasiblity study on the construction of the bridge, conducted by PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, was presented to the Indonesian Government.[1]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono established a high-level ministerial committee chaired by the Coordinating Economic Minister to oversee preparations for the construction of the bridge.[7]
2010
Some reports had raised the possible cost of the bridge to $20 bn.
2011
Apr: The bridge was listed as a megaproject in the proposed Sumatra Economic Corridor in Indonesian Government's Economic Masterplan (see details below).[8]
Apr: GS Engineering and Construction Corporation from South Korea affirmed its interest in participating in the construction of the bridge. It would stretch 31 kilometers from Anyer, Banten to Bakauheni, Lampung through Sanghyang, Prajurit and Ular islands.[9]
May: Coordinating Economic Minister Hatta Rajasa said South Korea had expressed an interest in helping construct the bridge[10]
Sep: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said that construction would start by 2014.[11]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono signed a Presidential Regulation (Peraturan Presiden) to facilitate further planning for the construction of the bridge.[12] Ground breaking was expected to take place in 2014.[13]
2012
Jan: Public Works Minister Djoko Kirmanto said that the feasibility study for the bridge would start in 2012 and take two years to complete. He also said that one of the state-run construction companies would take part in the project although which company was not specified. He estimated that the bridge would cost around Rp 125 trillion to build (around $13.9 billion at prevailing exchange rates) and that discussions had been held with experts from Japan and South Korea about the details of construction. [14]
Feb: the president director of PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, the consortium established to prepare development plans for the bridge, noted that arrangements were going slowly because government commitment was "lacking." He said the key to progress "lies in the government's hands." The consortium consists of companies owned by the Banten and Lampung district governments along with PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, a subsidiary of the Artha Graha Network owned by Indonesian businessman Tommy Winata.[15]
Mar: During a visit by president Susilo Bambang Yodhoyono to Beijing, an agreement was signed to facilitate a joint investment in the Sunda Strait Strategic and Infrastructure Development Plan between PT Bangun Sejahtera Mulia and China Railway Construction. Tommy Winata said that he hoped that Chinese business groups would finance the entire Sunda Strait project estimated to cost around $12 billion.[16].
Apr:The Office of the Coordinating Minister said that the Ministry of Finance was still preparing details to cover tendering details for the bridge. A special regulation was needed to provide some preferences for the project initiator, PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, but also to ensure proper tender arrangements.[17]”
印尼正在筹资建设巽他海峡大桥。 链接：en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_Strait_Bridge
百度上这么说， "巽他海峡(Sund Strait) 位于苏门答腊岛和爪哇岛之间，印度尼西亚爪哇岛与苏门答腊岛之间的狭窄水道（东经105度40分，南纬6度零分），宽26～110公里，沟通太平洋的爪哇海与印度洋。"
因为经济性的缘故，它一直是马六甲海峡的备份。
这个建桥举动意义非凡：今后马六甲的菲力普通道就是唯一的海道了。
那么有人会说为什么不开挖泰国运河呢？过去的顾忌，除了巨额的资金需求外，多少有些是怕新马不高兴。好了，如今初一人家已经做了，还等什么？！
可能有人会说，泰国运河还是过不了超大油轮，那就要看怎么做了。要是财力足够，可以建得足够深足够阔，顺便，运砂石去填出一个曾母省来。当然，理智的做法是跟日本韩国台湾等合资，先建成再说。
一个严重依赖外贸的经济需要一个更快捷的航运通道；一个自洽的两洋海军一定需要一条连接两洋的运河，否则时间上不利。
以下是些支持性事实：
“Pre 2000
Various references made as early as the 1960s to the possibility of building a bridge across the Sunda Strait. From time to time, senior political figures, academics, and others, mentioned the desirability of considering the project.[6]
2007
Early announcements made of plans to build the bridge. Early costs of $10 bn were mentioned.
2009
Aug: A pre-feasiblity study on the construction of the bridge, conducted by PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, was presented to the Indonesian Government.[1]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono established a high-level ministerial committee chaired by the Coordinating Economic Minister to oversee preparations for the construction of the bridge.[7]
2010
Some reports had raised the possible cost of the bridge to $20 bn.
2011
Apr: The bridge was listed as a megaproject in the proposed Sumatra Economic Corridor in Indonesian Government's Economic Masterplan (see details below).[8]
Apr: GS Engineering and Construction Corporation from South Korea affirmed its interest in participating in the construction of the bridge. It would stretch 31 kilometers from Anyer, Banten to Bakauheni, Lampung through Sanghyang, Prajurit and Ular islands.[9]
May: Coordinating Economic Minister Hatta Rajasa said South Korea had expressed an interest in helping construct the bridge[10]
Sep: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said that construction would start by 2014.[11]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono signed a Presidential Regulation (Peraturan Presiden) to facilitate further planning for the construction of the bridge.[12] Ground breaking was expected to take place in 2014.[13]
2012
Jan: Public Works Minister Djoko Kirmanto said that the feasibility study for the bridge would start in 2012 and take two years to complete. He also said that one of the state-run construction companies would take part in the project although which company was not specified. He estimated that the bridge would cost around Rp 125 trillion to build (around $13.9 billion at prevailing exchange rates) and that discussions had been held with experts from Japan and South Korea about the details of construction. [14]
Feb: the president director of PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, the consortium established to prepare development plans for the bridge, noted that arrangements were going slowly because government commitment was "lacking." He said the key to progress "lies in the government's hands." The consortium consists of companies owned by the Banten and Lampung district governments along with PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, a subsidiary of the Artha Graha Network owned by Indonesian businessman Tommy Winata.[15]
Mar: During a visit by president Susilo Bambang Yodhoyono to Beijing, an agreement was signed to facilitate a joint investment in the Sunda Strait Strategic and Infrastructure Development Plan between PT Bangun Sejahtera Mulia and China Railway Construction. Tommy Winata said that he hoped that Chinese business groups would finance the entire Sunda Strait project estimated to cost around $12 billion.[16].
Apr:The Office of the Coordinating Minister said that the Ministry of Finance was still preparing details to cover tendering details for the bridge. A special regulation was needed to provide some preferences for the project initiator, PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, but also to ensure proper tender arrangements.[17]”
百度上这么说， "巽他海峡(Sund Strait) 位于苏门答腊岛和爪哇岛之间，印度尼西亚爪哇岛与苏门答腊岛之间的狭窄水道（东经105度40分，南纬6度零分），宽26～110公里，沟通太平洋的爪哇海与印度洋。"
因为经济性的缘故，它一直是马六甲海峡的备份。
这个建桥举动意义非凡：今后马六甲的菲力普通道就是唯一的海道了。
那么有人会说为什么不开挖泰国运河呢？过去的顾忌，除了巨额的资金需求外，多少有些是怕新马不高兴。好了，如今初一人家已经做了，还等什么？！
可能有人会说，泰国运河还是过不了超大油轮，那就要看怎么做了。要是财力足够，可以建得足够深足够阔，顺便，运砂石去填出一个曾母省来。当然，理智的做法是跟日本韩国台湾等合资，先建成再说。
一个严重依赖外贸的经济需要一个更快捷的航运通道；一个自洽的两洋海军一定需要一条连接两洋的运河，否则时间上不利。
以下是些支持性事实：
“Pre 2000
Various references made as early as the 1960s to the possibility of building a bridge across the Sunda Strait. From time to time, senior political figures, academics, and others, mentioned the desirability of considering the project.[6]
2007
Early announcements made of plans to build the bridge. Early costs of $10 bn were mentioned.
2009
Aug: A pre-feasiblity study on the construction of the bridge, conducted by PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, was presented to the Indonesian Government.[1]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono established a high-level ministerial committee chaired by the Coordinating Economic Minister to oversee preparations for the construction of the bridge.[7]
2010
Some reports had raised the possible cost of the bridge to $20 bn.
2011
Apr: The bridge was listed as a megaproject in the proposed Sumatra Economic Corridor in Indonesian Government's Economic Masterplan (see details below).[8]
Apr: GS Engineering and Construction Corporation from South Korea affirmed its interest in participating in the construction of the bridge. It would stretch 31 kilometers from Anyer, Banten to Bakauheni, Lampung through Sanghyang, Prajurit and Ular islands.[9]
May: Coordinating Economic Minister Hatta Rajasa said South Korea had expressed an interest in helping construct the bridge[10]
Sep: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said that construction would start by 2014.[11]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono signed a Presidential Regulation (Peraturan Presiden) to facilitate further planning for the construction of the bridge.[12] Ground breaking was expected to take place in 2014.[13]
2012
Jan: Public Works Minister Djoko Kirmanto said that the feasibility study for the bridge would start in 2012 and take two years to complete. He also said that one of the state-run construction companies would take part in the project although which company was not specified. He estimated that the bridge would cost around Rp 125 trillion to build (around $13.9 billion at prevailing exchange rates) and that discussions had been held with experts from Japan and South Korea about the details of construction. [14]
Feb: the president director of PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, the consortium established to prepare development plans for the bridge, noted that arrangements were going slowly because government commitment was "lacking." He said the key to progress "lies in the government's hands." The consortium consists of companies owned by the Banten and Lampung district governments along with PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, a subsidiary of the Artha Graha Network owned by Indonesian businessman Tommy Winata.[15]
Mar: During a visit by president Susilo Bambang Yodhoyono to Beijing, an agreement was signed to facilitate a joint investment in the Sunda Strait Strategic and Infrastructure Development Plan between PT Bangun Sejahtera Mulia and China Railway Construction. Tommy Winata said that he hoped that Chinese business groups would finance the entire Sunda Strait project estimated to cost around $12 billion.[16].
Apr:The Office of the Coordinating Minister said that the Ministry of Finance was still preparing details to cover tendering details for the bridge. A special regulation was needed to provide some preferences for the project initiator, PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, but also to ensure proper tender arrangements.[17]”
印尼正在筹资建设巽他海峡大桥。 链接：en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunda_Strait_Bridge
百度上这么说， "巽他海峡(Sund Strait) 位于苏门答腊岛和爪哇岛之间，印度尼西亚爪哇岛与苏门答腊岛之间的狭窄水道（东经105度40分，南纬6度零分），宽26～110公里，沟通太平洋的爪哇海与印度洋。"
因为经济性的缘故，它一直是马六甲海峡的备份。
这个建桥举动意义非凡：今后马六甲的菲力普通道就是唯一的海道了。
那么有人会说为什么不开挖泰国运河呢？过去的顾忌，除了巨额的资金需求外，多少有些是怕新马不高兴。好了，如今初一人家已经做了，还等什么？！
可能有人会说，泰国运河还是过不了超大油轮，那就要看怎么做了。要是财力足够，可以建得足够深足够阔，顺便，运砂石去填出一个曾母省来。当然，理智的做法是跟日本韩国台湾等合资，先建成再说。
一个严重依赖外贸的经济需要一个更快捷的航运通道；一个自洽的两洋海军一定需要一条连接两洋的运河，否则时间上不利。
以下是些支持性事实：
“Pre 2000
Various references made as early as the 1960s to the possibility of building a bridge across the Sunda Strait. From time to time, senior political figures, academics, and others, mentioned the desirability of considering the project.[6]
2007
Early announcements made of plans to build the bridge. Early costs of $10 bn were mentioned.
2009
Aug: A pre-feasiblity study on the construction of the bridge, conducted by PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, was presented to the Indonesian Government.[1]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono established a high-level ministerial committee chaired by the Coordinating Economic Minister to oversee preparations for the construction of the bridge.[7]
2010
Some reports had raised the possible cost of the bridge to $20 bn.
2011
Apr: The bridge was listed as a megaproject in the proposed Sumatra Economic Corridor in Indonesian Government's Economic Masterplan (see details below).[8]
Apr: GS Engineering and Construction Corporation from South Korea affirmed its interest in participating in the construction of the bridge. It would stretch 31 kilometers from Anyer, Banten to Bakauheni, Lampung through Sanghyang, Prajurit and Ular islands.[9]
May: Coordinating Economic Minister Hatta Rajasa said South Korea had expressed an interest in helping construct the bridge[10]
Sep: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono said that construction would start by 2014.[11]
Dec: President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono signed a Presidential Regulation (Peraturan Presiden) to facilitate further planning for the construction of the bridge.[12] Ground breaking was expected to take place in 2014.[13]
2012
Jan: Public Works Minister Djoko Kirmanto said that the feasibility study for the bridge would start in 2012 and take two years to complete. He also said that one of the state-run construction companies would take part in the project although which company was not specified. He estimated that the bridge would cost around Rp 125 trillion to build (around $13.9 billion at prevailing exchange rates) and that discussions had been held with experts from Japan and South Korea about the details of construction. [14]
Feb: the president director of PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, the consortium established to prepare development plans for the bridge, noted that arrangements were going slowly because government commitment was "lacking." He said the key to progress "lies in the government's hands." The consortium consists of companies owned by the Banten and Lampung district governments along with PT Bangungraha Sejahtera Mulia, a subsidiary of the Artha Graha Network owned by Indonesian businessman Tommy Winata.[15]
Mar: During a visit by president Susilo Bambang Yodhoyono to Beijing, an agreement was signed to facilitate a joint investment in the Sunda Strait Strategic and Infrastructure Development Plan between PT Bangun Sejahtera Mulia and China Railway Construction. Tommy Winata said that he hoped that Chinese business groups would finance the entire Sunda Strait project estimated to cost around $12 billion.[16].
Apr:The Office of the Coordinating Minister said that the Ministry of Finance was still preparing details to cover tendering details for the bridge. A special regulation was needed to provide some preferences for the project initiator, PT Graha Banten Lampung Sejahtera, but also to ensure proper tender arrangements.[17]”
桥的举高多少？
印尼能自己主动把一条潜在的“黄金水道”财源给堵死了？？
印尼能自己主动把一条潜在的“黄金水道”财源给堵死了？？
LZ觉挺轻啊，这就睡不着了？
好几次看着、到这个，TG海军不具备1000海里排他性能力不回去那里投资
这要多NC才能做这样的事情啊
真要过桥还站得住？
况且也不排除TG免费帮建。
况且也不排除TG免费帮建。
没看出来有什么好担心的。印尼没那么不听劝。
卡拉卡托火山就在旁边 - -
楼主觉太轻了，印尼计划修巽它大桥已经可以上溯到1970年代了，90年代之前和日本财团、亚洲金融危机之后和中国谈了若干轮了，到现在也没见八字一撇。巽它海峡的轮渡船主到现在仍很淡定，也没见这四十年睡不着觉。
楼主就像印度人在民国读了孙逸仙的建国大纲，就开始担心位于西藏的河流上游在被中国截断了。联想力可嘉，心理素质待提高。
楼主觉太轻了，印尼计划修巽它大桥已经可以上溯到1970年代了，90年代之前和日本财团、亚洲金融危机之后和中国谈了若干轮了，到现在也没见八字一撇。巽它海峡的轮渡船主到现在仍很淡定，也没见这四十年睡不着觉。
楼主就像印度人在民国读了孙逸仙的建国大纲，就开始担心位于西藏的河流上游在被中国截断了。联想力可嘉，心理素质待提高。
这个未建的大桥两边都是经济欠发达地区吧？
建桥，多久收回成本？
建桥，多久收回成本？
这其实也不能叫自断财路，毕竟副总统遇到总统死掉的概率很低。不能永远这样备份下去而不自我发展吧？
至于泰国那个探讨了半个世纪的运河，八字没一撇。运河会割裂泰国，南部正想独立呢
至于泰国那个探讨了半个世纪的运河，八字没一撇。运河会割裂泰国，南部正想独立呢
印尼最近还是很听话的，不用担心
哟，lz是不是睡不着了？
修个桥就不能走船了？啥逻辑啊
我怎么觉得楼主在造谣
一个刚注册一天的列兵在这发这个不知所云的帖子
一个刚注册一天的列兵在这发这个不知所云的帖子
这有什么好睡不着的，楼主太夸大 了吧
张召忠元帅 发表于 2012-6-25 08:24 ![]()
印尼最近还是很听话的，不用担心
这头像加上这话，总觉得很喜感呀！
印尼最近还是很听话的，不用担心
这头像加上这话，总觉得很喜感呀！
钱从哪来
我猜印尼拿不出这个钱，要不印尼JC叔叔装备怎么如此悲惨。
jimkando 发表于 2012-6-25 08:19 ![]()
楼主觉太轻了，印尼计划修巽它大桥已经可以上溯到1970年代了，90年代之前和日本财团、亚洲金融危机之后和中 ...
现在西藏的河流上游真的在修大坝了
这个大桥基于印尼的发展，只怕总是要修的，不如干脆我们中国帮他们建，把桥面高度修高些就是了，还可以捞一笔钱。
楼主觉太轻了，印尼计划修巽它大桥已经可以上溯到1970年代了，90年代之前和日本财团、亚洲金融危机之后和中 ...
现在西藏的河流上游真的在修大坝了
这个大桥基于印尼的发展，只怕总是要修的，不如干脆我们中国帮他们建，把桥面高度修高些就是了，还可以捞一笔钱。
筹资建设而已，真有需要的话，让他一辈子都筹不够就是了。
恩，被砸了，赫赫。
桥确实不太要紧，只是一个影响因素而已，关键是泰国运河。这个项目是有利可图的，从长运看。至于说开运河就会导致泰南的离心化，那就错了，结果恰恰正好相反。
另外，如果泰国有心在西海岸建炼油厂，那么新加坡的三大经济支柱就倒掉一根。
桥确实不太要紧，只是一个影响因素而已，关键是泰国运河。这个项目是有利可图的，从长运看。至于说开运河就会导致泰南的离心化，那就错了，结果恰恰正好相反。
另外，如果泰国有心在西海岸建炼油厂，那么新加坡的三大经济支柱就倒掉一根。
testmilitary 发表于 2012-6-25 08:29 ![]()
我怎么觉得楼主在造谣
一个刚注册一天的列兵在这发这个不知所云的帖子
造谣这说法就是无稽之谈。
是啊，才一天，但我的注册名geopolitist, 地缘政治家比你个testmilitary要强不少吧, haha!
我怎么觉得楼主在造谣
一个刚注册一天的列兵在这发这个不知所云的帖子
造谣这说法就是无稽之谈。
是啊，才一天，但我的注册名geopolitist, 地缘政治家比你个testmilitary要强不少吧, haha!
还不至于睡不着吧