[原创]对伊朗航空工业公司完成了对F-14的第100架次大修 ...

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原刊于:伊朗《航空工业》杂志1993年5月刊第64页
感谢铁血的小熊爸爸翻译了前三段,唯物翻译了后七段并进行了修改



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Overhauling of the 100th F-14 by the Iran aircraft industry and returning it to service with the IRIAF
伊朗航空工业公司完成了对F-14的第100架次大修,并使其重新在伊朗空军服役

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After overhauling the 100th F-14 (Tomcat) strategic fighter by the specialists of Iran aircraft industry (SAHA), and returning it to service with the IRIAF, we had a brief interview about how this important job was achieved with the engineer, Mr. Mehrdad Amiri (assistant aircraft developer at SAHA). The interview is as follows.

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    在伊朗航空工业公司的专家对F-14“雄猫”战略战斗机完成了第100架次的大修之后,我们就这一重大的工作成就对伊朗航空工业公司的航空器助理开发工程师迈哈德.阿米尔先生进行了专访。以下是专访摘要:

Q: Mr. Amiri, would you please tell us briefly on how the F-14s are being repaired? 问:阿米尔先生,请您简要地告诉我们F-14是怎样进行大修的?

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R: In the name of god the most gracious and merciful. After the great Islamic revolution which forced the western engineers and specialists (specially American specialists) to leave Iran were thought by a lot of foreign and domestic observers, that the overhauling of the Iranian F-14s would face great problems or would be impossible to be achieved by Iranian engineers and specialists. Their opinion on this matter was based on their believe, that Iranian engineers and specialists did not have the familiarity or the experience with these aircrafts, including its special hanger need or its basic repairs, especially since there was a western arms embargo imposed on Iran. But with the will of god and the hard working of the SAHA personnel and with help of our loyal engineer and specialists of IRIAF, in the year 1361 (1982-1983), the basic work on the overhauling was started.
答:伟大而仁慈的真主在上,当伟大的伊斯兰革命迫使西方的工程师和专家(特别是美国专家)离开伊朗之后,很多国内外的观察家都认为伊朗的工程师和专家们在对F-14进行大修时将遇到很大的困难,或者说根本就不可能完成这项工作。这个结论是建立在如下的理论基础上的,即“伊朗的工程师和专家们对这种飞机并不熟悉,他们不熟悉维修F-14所需的特殊的机库吊架以及对F-14的基础维修工作;此外,西方世界对伊朗进行了武器禁运,这使伊朗无法获得必须的零配件供应。”然而实际情况恰恰相反,在伟大真主的意志下,在伊朗航空工业工程师的艰苦努力,以及来自伊朗空军的工程师和专家的帮助下,在回历1361年(公历1982-1983年),大修的基本工作开始了。

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Q: Please tell us about the problems that were faces with the overhauling of F-14s in the beginning?

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问:请谈一下在大修工作开始阶段遇到的困难。

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R: The very first problem with the overhauling of F-14s, were the lack of needed engineers and specialists, overhauling packages, needed parts and tools and which the aircraft industry overcame the problem with the hard work and several years of experience in the field of aircraft repairs, and by extracting the needed information from available technical manuals and having access to plans for overhauling aircrafts. At the same time with help of our Islamic brothers and their experience from IRIAF, were called to relieve the pressure of lack of spare and tools needed for this job to be started.
答:F-14大修开始时最大的困难是缺乏工程师和专家、必须的配件和工具。经过艰苦的工作、数年飞机维修经验的积累、最大程度地从仅有的技术手册中发掘维修必须的资料信息,伊朗航空工业的工程师们开始制定大修工作的计划。同时,伊朗空军兄弟向我们提供他们的经验,这减轻了在大修工作开始阶段由于缺少配件和工具所造成的压力。

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Q: Please tell us about the steps takes in overhauling one F-14?
问:请告诉我们在对F-14进行大修时的阶段步骤

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R: In short the overhauling of one F-14 is based on a 3-stage plan. The main stage which is it self made of 22 phases would be from entering the aircraft for overhaul to returning it. The stage for repairing parts of the aircraft is separate from the first stage (which is different for each individual aircraft) and technical overhauling.

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答:简单地说,对F-14进行大修分为三个阶段。最主要的阶段是进入飞机进行大修使它重新服役的22个步骤。这包含在第一个阶段和翻修技术中(每架飞机都不一样)

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Q: Would you please tell us about the advances made in the field of heavy repairs of F-14 aircraft in Iran?
问:请您告诉我们,伊朗在大修F-14方面取得的成绩。

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R: Fortunately for us, the aircraft industry was able to focus on the need of IRIAF and to set plans for its repairing needs. It started from a slow and planned start in the year 1361 (1982-1983) and reached a proud and fast speed by the year 1371 (1992-1993). In this year several F-14s were repaired and one aircraft was finished with its overhauling and was returned to IRIAF. We hope with new years to come, that we perfect and get better in repairing the IRIAF aircrafts. Infect, with the full knowledge and the ability to fully repair any aircraft, we have announced to the IRIAF that we can repair any numbers of their aircrafts that they need. ho
答:幸运的是,伊朗的航空工业公司已经能够满足伊朗空军的需要并根据需要制定维修计划。维修F-14的计划最早起步于回历1361年(公历1982-1983),到回历1371年(公历1992-1993),我们在维修速度上取得了重大迅速的进展,在这一年我们翻修了数架F-14,其中一架完成了大修任务后当年就返回伊朗空军重新服役。我们希望在新的一年里,在维修伊朗空军飞机方面做的更好。目前我们具备了全部的技术和能力,可以修复任何飞机,我们现在已经对伊朗空军宣布,我们有能力维修任何数量的他们想要进行维修的飞机!

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Q: What self-sufficiency抯 of this aircraft have we reached?
问:我们自力更生地修理这种飞机已经达到了什么程度?

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R: In the past 10 years, the repairing of these aircrafts were a big step and very knowledgeable for us in the fields of engineering these aircrafts and with the access to the powerful computer technology, we can say with certainty that we can completely overhaul these aircrafts. Also we have taken steps in the field of overhauling chassis and frames for these aircrafts, that with the availability of the needed funding we can continue doing this. We can do the same for other aircrafts in the IRIAF inventory. Also I would like to add that not only studies but steps in the field of manufacturing spare parts for these aircrafts are on hand on a day to day basis, and we have been successful up to now in this field.
答:在过去的十年中,对我们来说,修理这些飞机使我们在机械工程学领域和高性能计算机技术方面获得了巨大的进步,我们可以肯定地说:我们已经能够彻底地翻修F-14。我们为这些飞机的翻修设定了标准,在飞机结构方面采取了措施,在飞机寿命内,我们可以保持不断的维护。同样我们也能这样维护伊朗空军清单上的其他飞机。我很高兴地补充一点:对于F-14,我们不但在研究方面,而且在配件制造方面也不断取得进展,到目前为止我们已经在F-14的配件生产方面获得了成功。

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Q: Was there any repairs done on damaged F-14s? NF
问:对于已经损坏的F-14我们也进行维修吗?

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R: Yes, in this field we received great experience and knowledge from aircraft engineering section of SAHA, that has more to do with the years of imposed war. With in-depth focus on complicated engineering feats, out factories were able to exactly copy the needed parts with basic engineering knowledge.
答:是的,在这方面我们从伊朗航空工业公司的航空工程分部获得了丰富的经验和知识,在长期的战争条件下,伊朗航空工业公司的航空工程分部已经做了很多这方面的工作。在深入地研究复杂的工程技术过程中,我们的工厂已经能在现有的基本的工程知识下,完全仿制出所需的配件。

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Q: What are the effects of American embargo on repairing our F-14s?
问:美国的禁运对我们维修F-14产生了什么影响?

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R: In the beginning we thought that we would face a lot of problems, but by doing some research and having access to spare parts received before the Islamic revolution, we came to the conclusion that with the strong spare part needs and the little spare parts available, forced us to increase our affords in manufacturing spare parts for our F-14s. In comparison to our other projects, our F-14 repair project had a lower cost.
答:在开始的时候,我们认为我们将面临许多问题,但是在进行了一些研究和得到在伊斯兰革命前获得的备件后,我们得出结论:我们面临着巨大的配件需求和很少的配件来源,这迫使我们要为F-14生产出足够的配件。相对于我们其他的项目,我们的F-14维修项目只花费了少量的经费。

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Q: What do you think the future of F-14 will be in both Iran and the world?
问:您认为伊朗和世界上的F-14的未来前景如何?

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R: It is a common knowledge that outside US Navy, Iran is the only nation operating F-14s, because US does not want to sell these birds to other nations do to the fact that this birds are very capable aircrafts. The development of this aircraft in US was excellent. Infect the fact that upgrading it. A model to the D models with greater flying and fighting capability was a great improvement. Upgrading their engines, adding more powerful radars, adding advance electronic warfare systems, upgrading to more powerful computers, modern hydraulics and adding or updating other modern equipments created aircrafts that does not have any other aircrafts that comes close to them in comparison. The changing of the aircraft to a multi-rule aircraft by US., probably shrank the market for other aircrafts.
答:众所周知,世界上除了美国海军外,伊朗是唯一使用F-14的国家,美国不想把这种飞机卖给别的国家,因为这种飞机是很优秀的。该机在美国的发展很出色。F-14还要进一步地升级。从A型到D型,飞行性能和作战能力有了巨大的提高。美国人升级了发动机,安装了更好的雷达,加装了先进的电子战系统,升级了更强劲的计算机,更现代的布局,增加升级了其他现代化的设备,在这方面没有任何飞机能和它比。美国将F-14改变为多任务飞机,可能会导致其他飞机的市场萎缩。

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Q: First I want to thank you for your time and effort in giving this interview and second I would like to ask you if there is anything else you would like to talk about on this matter before we finish this interview up?
问:首先我要感谢您花费了时间和精力来接受采访,其次在这次采访结束前我想问您还有什么需要向我们介绍?

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R: Yes, I would like to say that SAHA, with its 20 some years experience in the fields of overhauling aircrafts, their engines, and specially its specialized personnel, has become a unique industry in the middle east, and in the amount effort and work being done has placed it unique in the world as whole This is the reason that why we need to protect this great investment at all costs and that we must still continue to work on it to make it even greater. At the end I would like to thank all the technicians, engineers and all personnel who are working in Iran aircraft industry who had backed us up in the past during the imposed war.
答:是的,我很高兴地告诉大家:伊朗航空工业公司在翻修飞机方面已经有20多年的历史,他的设备特别是专业员工在中东地区是独一无二的(不包括以色列) 。他的成就和工作在全世界也是独一无二的。这就是为什么我们不惜代价地保持对他的投资,我们必须不断努力使他更加壮大。最后我要感谢所有的技术人员、工程师和在伊朗航空工业公司工作的所有员工,正是他们支持我们对付外国强加来的战争(两伊战争)。

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唯物点评:根据国际飞行等权威杂志介绍,伊朗目前已经能够自己生产大部分F-14常见部件(甚至包括部分电子部件),建立了中东地区仅次于以色列的航空工业体系 。伊朗空军制定了合理的使用计划,各飞行中队中20%的F-14作为储备,定期进行轮换,保证每架飞机能得到充分的轮换机会,同时每架飞机的飞行时数得到平均。飞行员要协助技术人员为处于储备期间的每架F-14制定维修计划,这使得飞机能得到精良科学的维护,使得每架飞机的寿命得到延长。1994年,伊朗空军在阅兵式上F-14以25架的庞大密集编队低空掠过阅兵场,据此估计伊朗空军可以升空作战的F-14数量可能在50架以上,伊朗空军宣称他有60架F-14仍然具备作战能力。伊朗航空工业公司在美国封锁的情况下,能对美制飞机进行良好维护,获得了世界航空工业同行的尊重,同时伊朗通过维护正在逐步发展自己的飞机工业,目前伊朗不但在世界上招揽飞机维修业务,目前已经成功地替一些国家进行了飞机维修,而且已经成功生产出了安140运输机和穆哈杰无人侦察机,在俄罗斯、中国、乌克兰等国协助下伊朗正在发展攻击机、教练机和直升飞机及其配套的武器系统和电子装备(其中一种超音速喷气式攻击机数年前已经成功试飞,正在进行定型考察;喷气式教练机2005年将首飞;直升飞机已经进入原型机制造阶段,一种先进战斗机方案处于设计阶段)。这也可能是伊朗目前迟迟没有采购国外战斗机的原因之一。可以预见伊朗在未来将成为世界上重要的航空工业国。 有消息来源指出伊朗目前正在对中国的FC-1进行评估,如果通过,伊朗将谋求在本国组装生产FC-1。

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原刊于:伊朗《航空工业》杂志1993年5月刊第64页
感谢铁血的小熊爸爸翻译了前三段,唯物翻译了后七段并进行了修改



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Overhauling of the 100th F-14 by the Iran aircraft industry and returning it to service with the IRIAF
伊朗航空工业公司完成了对F-14的第100架次大修,并使其重新在伊朗空军服役

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After overhauling the 100th F-14 (Tomcat) strategic fighter by the specialists of Iran aircraft industry (SAHA), and returning it to service with the IRIAF, we had a brief interview about how this important job was achieved with the engineer, Mr. Mehrdad Amiri (assistant aircraft developer at SAHA). The interview is as follows.

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    在伊朗航空工业公司的专家对F-14“雄猫”战略战斗机完成了第100架次的大修之后,我们就这一重大的工作成就对伊朗航空工业公司的航空器助理开发工程师迈哈德.阿米尔先生进行了专访。以下是专访摘要:

Q: Mr. Amiri, would you please tell us briefly on how the F-14s are being repaired? 问:阿米尔先生,请您简要地告诉我们F-14是怎样进行大修的?

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R: In the name of god the most gracious and merciful. After the great Islamic revolution which forced the western engineers and specialists (specially American specialists) to leave Iran were thought by a lot of foreign and domestic observers, that the overhauling of the Iranian F-14s would face great problems or would be impossible to be achieved by Iranian engineers and specialists. Their opinion on this matter was based on their believe, that Iranian engineers and specialists did not have the familiarity or the experience with these aircrafts, including its special hanger need or its basic repairs, especially since there was a western arms embargo imposed on Iran. But with the will of god and the hard working of the SAHA personnel and with help of our loyal engineer and specialists of IRIAF, in the year 1361 (1982-1983), the basic work on the overhauling was started.
答:伟大而仁慈的真主在上,当伟大的伊斯兰革命迫使西方的工程师和专家(特别是美国专家)离开伊朗之后,很多国内外的观察家都认为伊朗的工程师和专家们在对F-14进行大修时将遇到很大的困难,或者说根本就不可能完成这项工作。这个结论是建立在如下的理论基础上的,即“伊朗的工程师和专家们对这种飞机并不熟悉,他们不熟悉维修F-14所需的特殊的机库吊架以及对F-14的基础维修工作;此外,西方世界对伊朗进行了武器禁运,这使伊朗无法获得必须的零配件供应。”然而实际情况恰恰相反,在伟大真主的意志下,在伊朗航空工业工程师的艰苦努力,以及来自伊朗空军的工程师和专家的帮助下,在回历1361年(公历1982-1983年),大修的基本工作开始了。

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Q: Please tell us about the problems that were faces with the overhauling of F-14s in the beginning?

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问:请谈一下在大修工作开始阶段遇到的困难。

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R: The very first problem with the overhauling of F-14s, were the lack of needed engineers and specialists, overhauling packages, needed parts and tools and which the aircraft industry overcame the problem with the hard work and several years of experience in the field of aircraft repairs, and by extracting the needed information from available technical manuals and having access to plans for overhauling aircrafts. At the same time with help of our Islamic brothers and their experience from IRIAF, were called to relieve the pressure of lack of spare and tools needed for this job to be started.
答:F-14大修开始时最大的困难是缺乏工程师和专家、必须的配件和工具。经过艰苦的工作、数年飞机维修经验的积累、最大程度地从仅有的技术手册中发掘维修必须的资料信息,伊朗航空工业的工程师们开始制定大修工作的计划。同时,伊朗空军兄弟向我们提供他们的经验,这减轻了在大修工作开始阶段由于缺少配件和工具所造成的压力。

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Q: Please tell us about the steps takes in overhauling one F-14?
问:请告诉我们在对F-14进行大修时的阶段步骤

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R: In short the overhauling of one F-14 is based on a 3-stage plan. The main stage which is it self made of 22 phases would be from entering the aircraft for overhaul to returning it. The stage for repairing parts of the aircraft is separate from the first stage (which is different for each individual aircraft) and technical overhauling.

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答:简单地说,对F-14进行大修分为三个阶段。最主要的阶段是进入飞机进行大修使它重新服役的22个步骤。这包含在第一个阶段和翻修技术中(每架飞机都不一样)

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Q: Would you please tell us about the advances made in the field of heavy repairs of F-14 aircraft in Iran?
问:请您告诉我们,伊朗在大修F-14方面取得的成绩。

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R: Fortunately for us, the aircraft industry was able to focus on the need of IRIAF and to set plans for its repairing needs. It started from a slow and planned start in the year 1361 (1982-1983) and reached a proud and fast speed by the year 1371 (1992-1993). In this year several F-14s were repaired and one aircraft was finished with its overhauling and was returned to IRIAF. We hope with new years to come, that we perfect and get better in repairing the IRIAF aircrafts. Infect, with the full knowledge and the ability to fully repair any aircraft, we have announced to the IRIAF that we can repair any numbers of their aircrafts that they need. ho
答:幸运的是,伊朗的航空工业公司已经能够满足伊朗空军的需要并根据需要制定维修计划。维修F-14的计划最早起步于回历1361年(公历1982-1983),到回历1371年(公历1992-1993),我们在维修速度上取得了重大迅速的进展,在这一年我们翻修了数架F-14,其中一架完成了大修任务后当年就返回伊朗空军重新服役。我们希望在新的一年里,在维修伊朗空军飞机方面做的更好。目前我们具备了全部的技术和能力,可以修复任何飞机,我们现在已经对伊朗空军宣布,我们有能力维修任何数量的他们想要进行维修的飞机!

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Q: What self-sufficiency抯 of this aircraft have we reached?
问:我们自力更生地修理这种飞机已经达到了什么程度?

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R: In the past 10 years, the repairing of these aircrafts were a big step and very knowledgeable for us in the fields of engineering these aircrafts and with the access to the powerful computer technology, we can say with certainty that we can completely overhaul these aircrafts. Also we have taken steps in the field of overhauling chassis and frames for these aircrafts, that with the availability of the needed funding we can continue doing this. We can do the same for other aircrafts in the IRIAF inventory. Also I would like to add that not only studies but steps in the field of manufacturing spare parts for these aircrafts are on hand on a day to day basis, and we have been successful up to now in this field.
答:在过去的十年中,对我们来说,修理这些飞机使我们在机械工程学领域和高性能计算机技术方面获得了巨大的进步,我们可以肯定地说:我们已经能够彻底地翻修F-14。我们为这些飞机的翻修设定了标准,在飞机结构方面采取了措施,在飞机寿命内,我们可以保持不断的维护。同样我们也能这样维护伊朗空军清单上的其他飞机。我很高兴地补充一点:对于F-14,我们不但在研究方面,而且在配件制造方面也不断取得进展,到目前为止我们已经在F-14的配件生产方面获得了成功。

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Q: Was there any repairs done on damaged F-14s? NF
问:对于已经损坏的F-14我们也进行维修吗?

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R: Yes, in this field we received great experience and knowledge from aircraft engineering section of SAHA, that has more to do with the years of imposed war. With in-depth focus on complicated engineering feats, out factories were able to exactly copy the needed parts with basic engineering knowledge.
答:是的,在这方面我们从伊朗航空工业公司的航空工程分部获得了丰富的经验和知识,在长期的战争条件下,伊朗航空工业公司的航空工程分部已经做了很多这方面的工作。在深入地研究复杂的工程技术过程中,我们的工厂已经能在现有的基本的工程知识下,完全仿制出所需的配件。

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Q: What are the effects of American embargo on repairing our F-14s?
问:美国的禁运对我们维修F-14产生了什么影响?

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R: In the beginning we thought that we would face a lot of problems, but by doing some research and having access to spare parts received before the Islamic revolution, we came to the conclusion that with the strong spare part needs and the little spare parts available, forced us to increase our affords in manufacturing spare parts for our F-14s. In comparison to our other projects, our F-14 repair project had a lower cost.
答:在开始的时候,我们认为我们将面临许多问题,但是在进行了一些研究和得到在伊斯兰革命前获得的备件后,我们得出结论:我们面临着巨大的配件需求和很少的配件来源,这迫使我们要为F-14生产出足够的配件。相对于我们其他的项目,我们的F-14维修项目只花费了少量的经费。

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Q: What do you think the future of F-14 will be in both Iran and the world?
问:您认为伊朗和世界上的F-14的未来前景如何?

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R: It is a common knowledge that outside US Navy, Iran is the only nation operating F-14s, because US does not want to sell these birds to other nations do to the fact that this birds are very capable aircrafts. The development of this aircraft in US was excellent. Infect the fact that upgrading it. A model to the D models with greater flying and fighting capability was a great improvement. Upgrading their engines, adding more powerful radars, adding advance electronic warfare systems, upgrading to more powerful computers, modern hydraulics and adding or updating other modern equipments created aircrafts that does not have any other aircrafts that comes close to them in comparison. The changing of the aircraft to a multi-rule aircraft by US., probably shrank the market for other aircrafts.
答:众所周知,世界上除了美国海军外,伊朗是唯一使用F-14的国家,美国不想把这种飞机卖给别的国家,因为这种飞机是很优秀的。该机在美国的发展很出色。F-14还要进一步地升级。从A型到D型,飞行性能和作战能力有了巨大的提高。美国人升级了发动机,安装了更好的雷达,加装了先进的电子战系统,升级了更强劲的计算机,更现代的布局,增加升级了其他现代化的设备,在这方面没有任何飞机能和它比。美国将F-14改变为多任务飞机,可能会导致其他飞机的市场萎缩。

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Q: First I want to thank you for your time and effort in giving this interview and second I would like to ask you if there is anything else you would like to talk about on this matter before we finish this interview up?
问:首先我要感谢您花费了时间和精力来接受采访,其次在这次采访结束前我想问您还有什么需要向我们介绍?

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R: Yes, I would like to say that SAHA, with its 20 some years experience in the fields of overhauling aircrafts, their engines, and specially its specialized personnel, has become a unique industry in the middle east, and in the amount effort and work being done has placed it unique in the world as whole This is the reason that why we need to protect this great investment at all costs and that we must still continue to work on it to make it even greater. At the end I would like to thank all the technicians, engineers and all personnel who are working in Iran aircraft industry who had backed us up in the past during the imposed war.
答:是的,我很高兴地告诉大家:伊朗航空工业公司在翻修飞机方面已经有20多年的历史,他的设备特别是专业员工在中东地区是独一无二的(不包括以色列) 。他的成就和工作在全世界也是独一无二的。这就是为什么我们不惜代价地保持对他的投资,我们必须不断努力使他更加壮大。最后我要感谢所有的技术人员、工程师和在伊朗航空工业公司工作的所有员工,正是他们支持我们对付外国强加来的战争(两伊战争)。

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唯物点评:根据国际飞行等权威杂志介绍,伊朗目前已经能够自己生产大部分F-14常见部件(甚至包括部分电子部件),建立了中东地区仅次于以色列的航空工业体系 。伊朗空军制定了合理的使用计划,各飞行中队中20%的F-14作为储备,定期进行轮换,保证每架飞机能得到充分的轮换机会,同时每架飞机的飞行时数得到平均。飞行员要协助技术人员为处于储备期间的每架F-14制定维修计划,这使得飞机能得到精良科学的维护,使得每架飞机的寿命得到延长。1994年,伊朗空军在阅兵式上F-14以25架的庞大密集编队低空掠过阅兵场,据此估计伊朗空军可以升空作战的F-14数量可能在50架以上,伊朗空军宣称他有60架F-14仍然具备作战能力。伊朗航空工业公司在美国封锁的情况下,能对美制飞机进行良好维护,获得了世界航空工业同行的尊重,同时伊朗通过维护正在逐步发展自己的飞机工业,目前伊朗不但在世界上招揽飞机维修业务,目前已经成功地替一些国家进行了飞机维修,而且已经成功生产出了安140运输机和穆哈杰无人侦察机,在俄罗斯、中国、乌克兰等国协助下伊朗正在发展攻击机、教练机和直升飞机及其配套的武器系统和电子装备(其中一种超音速喷气式攻击机数年前已经成功试飞,正在进行定型考察;喷气式教练机2005年将首飞;直升飞机已经进入原型机制造阶段,一种先进战斗机方案处于设计阶段)。这也可能是伊朗目前迟迟没有采购国外战斗机的原因之一。可以预见伊朗在未来将成为世界上重要的航空工业国。 有消息来源指出伊朗目前正在对中国的FC-1进行评估,如果通过,伊朗将谋求在本国组装生产FC-1。

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牛就一个字,值得学习
好啊!FC-1又有买主了.
<B>以下是引用<I>f22</I>在2004-12-11 12:48:00的发言:</B>
好啊!FC-1又有买主了.

<P>以伊朗的眼界,FC-1恐怕看不上眼,估计最终还是会找毛子合作.</P>
<B>以下是引用<I>大黄蜂</I>在2004-12-11 12:53:00的发言:</B>
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<P>以伊朗的眼界,FC-1恐怕看不上眼,估计最终还是会找毛子合作.</P>


这也未必,伊朗想自己组装,俄罗斯可不愿意让自己的飞机技术哪天落到美国人手里,而且伊朗空军需要低档飞机来替代F-5和F-4之类。中国和伊朗的航空合作也不少,据说伊朗向中国提供了一些美国飞机发动机和雷达,中国和伊朗合作,把我们的导弹整合到美制飞机的火控系统中,已经证实的是:中国协助伊朗将C801K、C802K和C701K空舰导弹整合到了F-14和F-4上,以上几个型号,伊朗已经获得生产许可证。美国国防部军事专家指出中国在对伊朗的导弹技术扩散方面尤其积极,以抑制美国对中东的控制。可以肯定的是中国已经系统地研究过F-14上的雷达
<P>F14!</P><P>我就知道这种飞机不是一些人想象中的差的!</P><P>F14,带领着第三代战斗机走完了辉煌的道路,在即将到来的第四代战机时代中,人们不应忘记原来的战斗英雄!</P>
<P>波斯人比阿拉伯人要勤奋得多。</P>
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<B>以下是引用<I>唯物</I>在2004-12-11 13:33:00的发言:</B>

<P>波斯人比阿拉伯人要勤奋得多。</P>

<P>不要歧视阿拉伯人呀</P>
枭龙是一个很好的样板工程。对第3世界的示范和诱惑作用都非常巨大。
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<B>以下是引用<I>极品梦游侠</I>在2004-12-11 14:18:00的发言:</B>
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<P>不要歧视阿拉伯人呀</P>

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<P>这个倒是现实问题哦。目前的阿拉伯国家,资源丰富,资金充裕。而且都是列强虎视眈眈的兵家必争之地。</P>
<P>但这么多年过去了,他们下苦功开发自己的科技、自主进行国防现代化的例子寥寥可数。甚至看不到他们有这方面的意图,他们热衷于花大钱购买现成的东西、现成的技术,相对于一度处于绝境中的以色列和伊朗,他们实在是太懒了。在这方面讲,说波斯人比阿拉伯人勤奋一点都不为过~~~~有朝一日,波斯湾的石油卖光了,别的国家会继续寻找发展突破口,而他们在吃完老本之后,一不小心就沦为像某些非洲国家一样了....</P>
就怕我们上层不敢卖FC-1给伊朗,不过最近伊朗和国内签了怎么大的单子(天然气和石油),不卖点科技含量高的东西给人家也不行哦
感觉我们可能会对伊朗有不少的军事援助的,不然我还希望霉菌打他呀,我们也和来个平衡哈
弓虽!!!!看来比他的邻居强多了![em05]
支持,好文
<P>国际贸易要平衡嘛,买了他那么多亿美金的石油天然气,总得买点天朝的什么什么的平衡一下子嘛.</P>
伊朗是个。。。。的国家!强!
<P>政治意义远远大过实际意义。当然还是要向进步中的伊朗人致敬!</P><P>只是原文对于“国际市场上”F-14的评论,我保留看法。美国海军雄猫机群即将在未来两年全部退役完毕,也不会投放(除了已经在使用的伊朗,也不会有国家特别想接受)国际市场,最多只是封存和拆毁。少数留作试验评估及假想敌训练。</P>
<B>以下是引用<I>纽卡</I>在2004-12-12 10:45:00的发言:</B>

<P>政治意义远远大过实际意义。当然还是要向进步中的伊朗人致敬!</P>
<P>只是原文对于“国际市场上”F-14的评论,我保留看法。美国海军雄猫机群即将在未来两年全部退役完毕,也不会投放(除了已经在使用的伊朗,也不会有国家特别想接受)国际市场,最多只是封存和拆毁。少数留作试验评估及假想敌训练。</P>


请注意,这是人家在1993年的评论,是11年前的事情啦![em01]
伊朗国内波斯人的比例大概只有2/3,还不如美国白人占美国人口的比例,所以称伊朗人为波斯人不妥。
伊朗与土耳其、马来西亚一起算是伊斯兰国家中工业水平比较高的。这很大程度要归功于巴列维家族打下的基础。此外伊朗的伊斯兰民主也很有特色,人民对普选的总统与议会有很高的认同度。所以看似伊朗内部保守派与改革派斗争激烈,当有外敌威胁时伊朗人肯定可以团结一致。
我看一些国外论坛上伊朗军友的观点,两伊战争时中国的歼7的表现让军方很不满意,而且FC-1的航程也比较短,所以FC-1应该不是伊朗人的第一选择。他们可能还是比较倾向苏30或歼10,然后自己组装。此外伊朗已经有了一批米格29,这对他们未来的采购会有很大影响。
不过伊朗革命后,伊朗政府也很重视工业发展,伊朗已经实行了3个五年计划了,特别是很重视精密制造、大规模制造业、光电产业及冶金、化学、电力等工业。很多人以为伊朗是纯石油国家,其实是错误的,大家可以去中国驻伊朗经济参赞处的网页看看。伊朗人确实很看重他们的制度,前天看见一个文章,作者在伊朗采访,伊朗人一开口就是:我们是个三权分立的议会制伊斯兰国家,伊朗登记的政党有100多个,其中在政治上比较有实力的有10多个。但是也有个问题,议会中党派斗争很激烈,经常拖延问题,造成效率不高,好处当然明显,国民不会抵触政权。
FC-1在伊朗的前景很大程度上取决于伊郎自己那个闪电战机的发展的顺利与否,当然伊朗出于武器装备来源的多元化的考虑也不会全部依赖俄罗斯武器装备,俺国的战机肯定也会在考虑之中,只不过是比例多少的问题.
<P>中东的阿拉伯人的确是不行,办事效率低下</P><P>伊朗的航空工业还是有特色的,禁运逼出的工业水平!南非,中国也是如此。</P><P>唯一没有禁运也发展出自己国家特色航空工业的是瑞典。其经验很值得我们学习啊</P>
不过伊朗人还是不错D!
互相促进也好啊,据闻伊朗打算把石油出口的优先权给我们。
<B>以下是引用<I>唯物</I>在2004-12-12 10:51:00的发言:</B>
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请注意,这是人家在1993年的评论,是11年前的事情啦![em01]

<P>怎么?有什么问题?
<P>当时也没有人想到伊朗人还会把HAWK防空导弹挂到雄猫上,现在的维修水平应该更上一个台阶了。关于销路问题,当年F-14刚“上市”的时候,日本加拿大西德英国法国等等都没有最后购买,作为这么一种特色鲜明的可变翼海军机,一般国家现在更不会也无法装备(尽管其部分关键设备到今天为止也只有少数极发达国家才能研发),雄猫作为第一个走下历史舞台的三代机很光荣了。</P>
<P>“政治意义远远大过实际意义。”</P><P>偶严重同意!</P>
<P>哈哈哈,就是!</P>
在伊朗“在伟大真主的意志下”=在中国“在马列主义,毛泽东思想,邓小平理论,三个代表的指引下”
再说一句“伊朗不是阿拉伯谜民族”
<P>我一向都喜欢波斯这个民族,打帝国也喜欢用,养一群大象冲锋所向披靡!</P>[em01][em05]
波斯人帮俺们看着西大门,可要笼络好了
标  题:伊朗和世界已经看清俄国人的面目了.
德黑兰时报: 在Bushehr核电站可用前,不和俄罗斯签订新的核合同

两位伊朗高级官员称,将不再和俄罗斯签订新的核合同,直到俄罗斯完成在Bushehr的核电站,并使之投入运行这两位高级官员的其中一位, Kazem Jalali,是伊朗 Majlis 外交和安全政策委员会的发言人 。他说,伊朗的Bushehr核电站和巴基斯坦的核电站几乎同时开始建造,但中国早已完成了巴基斯坦的核电站并投入运行,而俄罗斯仍旧在拖拖拉拉。

他说,由于美国的压力,俄罗斯多次中止该核电站的建设进程。 而另一位高级官员Hamidreza Hajbabayi,Majlis主席会和安全委员会的成员,对俄罗斯更加恼火。他说,德黑兰不应该在莫斯科永无止境的索取前屈服,在和俄罗斯签订协议前,必要要求莫斯科提供法律和金融的保证。俄罗斯在过去八年的所作所为已经证明其惟利是图的本性,它往往依靠国际形势对伊朗进行施压以从中获得对它有利的核合同。他还说到,俄罗斯已经证明是个不可信赖的合作伙伴。 Hajbabayi说,在伊朗面临困难时,俄罗斯不仅不支持伊朗,反而利用德黑兰和华盛顿的对立从中榨取利益。对于俄罗斯所说的“希望在伊朗再建造一座核电站”的说法,他回应到,俄罗斯是不可信任的。最后,Hajbabayi说,在最近的IAEA会议期间,相比较欧洲的来回奔波,俄罗斯的外交行动在某种程度上扰乱了伊朗的计划。
看过几套伊朗电影, 从戏中的小节看到当地的民风. 他们穷, 但很乐天, 喜欢助人, 还对人很信任. 很多情节都有把自己小孩随时随地交托给陌生人的情景, 陌生人也很乐意代人照顾小孩. 其中有一电影的情节是有关地震後重建. 年青人在废墟中架设天线看世界杯. 他说地震四十年就有一次, 世界杯四年才有一次. 不看世界杯死去的亲人也不会复生. 村子里每个人都有亲人死掉, 但没有人哭哭啼啼, 在互相帮助收拾後, 很快乐地看世界杯.
我同学的爸爸说伊朗的所谓的专家很笨,怎么教都不会!
<B>以下是引用<I>super_hero</I>在2004-12-14 16:38:00的发言:</B>
我同学的爸爸说伊朗的所谓的专家很笨,怎么教都不会!

<P>也不能怎么说,那里都有聪明的,那里也都有笨的。</P>
<B>以下是引用<I>super_hero</I>在2004-12-14 16:38:00的发言:</B>
我同学的爸爸说伊朗的所谓的专家很笨,怎么教都不会!

<P>人有聪敏也有愚笨的,伊朗还是出了些科学家的,德黑兰大学的排名相当前。</P>
<P>我同学的爸爸说伊朗的所谓的专家很笨,怎么教都不会!
========================================== </P><P>语言上沟通的问题吧. 要你用阿拉伯话/伊朗话学东西也会很难. 如果大家都用大家都不怎麽好的乌语, 那就更难. 表达那个打了折扣, 听那个又再打个折扣.</P>
不过伊朗人英语还可以的啊,伊朗官方语言是波斯语和阿拉伯语。