超级军网《印度时报》:印度商人应当遵守中国法律诚实经商
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Amid a raging row over illegal detention and torture of two Indian traders in Yiwu, China on Thursday hoped that India will "positively educate" its nationals doing business here to abide by the Chinese laws, practise honesty and operate legally.
Commenting on the incident, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said that "China is a country under the rule of law," adding that China values its friendship with India and always protects the legal rights of foreigners, including Indian citizens.
"China hopes that the Indian side can positively educate and guide the country's people doing business in China to abide by Chinese laws and regulations, practise honesty and trustworthiness and operate legally," Hong said.
He said the two Indian businessmen -- Shyamsunder Agrawal and Deepak Raheja -- were "caught in disputes with local business people" and had left the eastern Chinese city of Yiwu yesterday with an official from the Indian Consulate General in Shanghai.
"During their stay in Yiwu, they were put up in hotels and allowed to act freely, and their security was not hindered when they went out to eat," Hong claimed.
Chinese traders were unwilling to let the two Indians go asserting that their company owed millions of Yuan for products bought from them and they would be permitted to leave only after payments were made.
The two Indians, who were shifted to Shanghai last night, are expected to be in the eastern Chinese city for the next few days until they recuperate from scars of torture and ill-treatment suffered at the hands of the local traders.
China yesterday assured India that it has initiated criminal proceedings against five locals suspected for the torture of the two Indians.
北京：针对发生在义乌的中国商人与两名印度商人之间的争吵及随后发生的非法拘禁和虐待事件，周四，中国方面表示希望印度能“正面教育”其国民，在中国经商需要遵守中国法律，诚实经商。
外交部发言人洪磊说：“中国是一个法制国家”，中国珍惜与印度的友谊，中国保护所有外国人在中国的合法权益，包括印度公民。
洪磊说：“中国希望印度方面能采取切实有效的措施教育和指导在中国经商的国民遵守中国法律，诚实依法经商”
他说这两个印度商人Shyamsunder Agrawal 和Deepak Raheja “在与当地商人争吵时被抓了起来”，已于昨天与印度驻上海总领事馆的一名官员一起离开中国东部城市----义乌。
洪磊说：他们停留在义乌期间，被安排在酒店，可以自由活动，他们出去进餐时没有受到安全威胁。
中国商人声称之所以扣押他们是因为这两个印度人的公司欠他们数百万人民币的货款，他们只有付清欠款后才能离开。
昨晚这两名印度商人已经到达上海，可能要停留几天，以便从被当地商人扣押期间受到的惊吓中恢复过来。
中国在昨天告之印度方面，五名涉嫌参与扣押的中国商人已经被警方调查。http://www.ltaaa.com/wtfy/3952.htmlAmid a raging row over illegal detention and torture of two Indian traders in Yiwu, China on Thursday hoped that India will "positively educate" its nationals doing business here to abide by the Chinese laws, practise honesty and operate legally.
Commenting on the incident, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said that "China is a country under the rule of law," adding that China values its friendship with India and always protects the legal rights of foreigners, including Indian citizens.
"China hopes that the Indian side can positively educate and guide the country's people doing business in China to abide by Chinese laws and regulations, practise honesty and trustworthiness and operate legally," Hong said.
He said the two Indian businessmen -- Shyamsunder Agrawal and Deepak Raheja -- were "caught in disputes with local business people" and had left the eastern Chinese city of Yiwu yesterday with an official from the Indian Consulate General in Shanghai.
"During their stay in Yiwu, they were put up in hotels and allowed to act freely, and their security was not hindered when they went out to eat," Hong claimed.
Chinese traders were unwilling to let the two Indians go asserting that their company owed millions of Yuan for products bought from them and they would be permitted to leave only after payments were made.
The two Indians, who were shifted to Shanghai last night, are expected to be in the eastern Chinese city for the next few days until they recuperate from scars of torture and ill-treatment suffered at the hands of the local traders.
China yesterday assured India that it has initiated criminal proceedings against five locals suspected for the torture of the two Indians.
北京：针对发生在义乌的中国商人与两名印度商人之间的争吵及随后发生的非法拘禁和虐待事件，周四，中国方面表示希望印度能“正面教育”其国民，在中国经商需要遵守中国法律，诚实经商。
外交部发言人洪磊说：“中国是一个法制国家”，中国珍惜与印度的友谊，中国保护所有外国人在中国的合法权益，包括印度公民。
洪磊说：“中国希望印度方面能采取切实有效的措施教育和指导在中国经商的国民遵守中国法律，诚实依法经商”
他说这两个印度商人Shyamsunder Agrawal 和Deepak Raheja “在与当地商人争吵时被抓了起来”，已于昨天与印度驻上海总领事馆的一名官员一起离开中国东部城市----义乌。
洪磊说：他们停留在义乌期间，被安排在酒店，可以自由活动，他们出去进餐时没有受到安全威胁。
中国商人声称之所以扣押他们是因为这两个印度人的公司欠他们数百万人民币的货款，他们只有付清欠款后才能离开。
昨晚这两名印度商人已经到达上海，可能要停留几天，以便从被当地商人扣押期间受到的惊吓中恢复过来。
中国在昨天告之印度方面，五名涉嫌参与扣押的中国商人已经被警方调查。http://www.ltaaa.com/wtfy/3952.html
Commenting on the incident, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said that "China is a country under the rule of law," adding that China values its friendship with India and always protects the legal rights of foreigners, including Indian citizens.
"China hopes that the Indian side can positively educate and guide the country's people doing business in China to abide by Chinese laws and regulations, practise honesty and trustworthiness and operate legally," Hong said.
He said the two Indian businessmen -- Shyamsunder Agrawal and Deepak Raheja -- were "caught in disputes with local business people" and had left the eastern Chinese city of Yiwu yesterday with an official from the Indian Consulate General in Shanghai.
"During their stay in Yiwu, they were put up in hotels and allowed to act freely, and their security was not hindered when they went out to eat," Hong claimed.
Chinese traders were unwilling to let the two Indians go asserting that their company owed millions of Yuan for products bought from them and they would be permitted to leave only after payments were made.
The two Indians, who were shifted to Shanghai last night, are expected to be in the eastern Chinese city for the next few days until they recuperate from scars of torture and ill-treatment suffered at the hands of the local traders.
China yesterday assured India that it has initiated criminal proceedings against five locals suspected for the torture of the two Indians.
北京：针对发生在义乌的中国商人与两名印度商人之间的争吵及随后发生的非法拘禁和虐待事件，周四，中国方面表示希望印度能“正面教育”其国民，在中国经商需要遵守中国法律，诚实经商。
外交部发言人洪磊说：“中国是一个法制国家”，中国珍惜与印度的友谊，中国保护所有外国人在中国的合法权益，包括印度公民。
洪磊说：“中国希望印度方面能采取切实有效的措施教育和指导在中国经商的国民遵守中国法律，诚实依法经商”
他说这两个印度商人Shyamsunder Agrawal 和Deepak Raheja “在与当地商人争吵时被抓了起来”，已于昨天与印度驻上海总领事馆的一名官员一起离开中国东部城市----义乌。
洪磊说：他们停留在义乌期间，被安排在酒店，可以自由活动，他们出去进餐时没有受到安全威胁。
中国商人声称之所以扣押他们是因为这两个印度人的公司欠他们数百万人民币的货款，他们只有付清欠款后才能离开。
昨晚这两名印度商人已经到达上海，可能要停留几天，以便从被当地商人扣押期间受到的惊吓中恢复过来。
中国在昨天告之印度方面，五名涉嫌参与扣押的中国商人已经被警方调查。http://www.ltaaa.com/wtfy/3952.htmlAmid a raging row over illegal detention and torture of two Indian traders in Yiwu, China on Thursday hoped that India will "positively educate" its nationals doing business here to abide by the Chinese laws, practise honesty and operate legally.
Commenting on the incident, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said that "China is a country under the rule of law," adding that China values its friendship with India and always protects the legal rights of foreigners, including Indian citizens.
"China hopes that the Indian side can positively educate and guide the country's people doing business in China to abide by Chinese laws and regulations, practise honesty and trustworthiness and operate legally," Hong said.
He said the two Indian businessmen -- Shyamsunder Agrawal and Deepak Raheja -- were "caught in disputes with local business people" and had left the eastern Chinese city of Yiwu yesterday with an official from the Indian Consulate General in Shanghai.
"During their stay in Yiwu, they were put up in hotels and allowed to act freely, and their security was not hindered when they went out to eat," Hong claimed.
Chinese traders were unwilling to let the two Indians go asserting that their company owed millions of Yuan for products bought from them and they would be permitted to leave only after payments were made.
The two Indians, who were shifted to Shanghai last night, are expected to be in the eastern Chinese city for the next few days until they recuperate from scars of torture and ill-treatment suffered at the hands of the local traders.
China yesterday assured India that it has initiated criminal proceedings against five locals suspected for the torture of the two Indians.
北京：针对发生在义乌的中国商人与两名印度商人之间的争吵及随后发生的非法拘禁和虐待事件，周四，中国方面表示希望印度能“正面教育”其国民，在中国经商需要遵守中国法律，诚实经商。
外交部发言人洪磊说：“中国是一个法制国家”，中国珍惜与印度的友谊，中国保护所有外国人在中国的合法权益，包括印度公民。
洪磊说：“中国希望印度方面能采取切实有效的措施教育和指导在中国经商的国民遵守中国法律，诚实依法经商”
他说这两个印度商人Shyamsunder Agrawal 和Deepak Raheja “在与当地商人争吵时被抓了起来”，已于昨天与印度驻上海总领事馆的一名官员一起离开中国东部城市----义乌。
洪磊说：他们停留在义乌期间，被安排在酒店，可以自由活动，他们出去进餐时没有受到安全威胁。
中国商人声称之所以扣押他们是因为这两个印度人的公司欠他们数百万人民币的货款，他们只有付清欠款后才能离开。
昨晚这两名印度商人已经到达上海，可能要停留几天，以便从被当地商人扣押期间受到的惊吓中恢复过来。
中国在昨天告之印度方面，五名涉嫌参与扣押的中国商人已经被警方调查。http://www.ltaaa.com/wtfy/3952.html
funny to see how defensive Indians become on stories like this. Look, the fact of the matter is that Indians have been caught trying to steal from Chinese suppliers in China. Rather than just admit to the facts and move on, most of you Indians act as if the Indian "businessmen" are victims. China certainly has its share of problems, but this story is about Indians behaving like thieves in China and not the other way around.
真是好笑，一向本分的印度人如何唱出这么一出戏！看，事实是这样的，印度商人竟然在中国偷中国供应商的东西，还不认错让事情过去。大多数印度人可能认为这两个印度人在中国遭了罪，不可否认，中国人也有自己的问题，但是这个事件是以印度人在中国扮演窃贼的角色出现的，怎么就不扮演一个正面角色呢？
真是好笑，一向本分的印度人如何唱出这么一出戏！看，事实是这样的，印度商人竟然在中国偷中国供应商的东西，还不认错让事情过去。大多数印度人可能认为这两个印度人在中国遭了罪，不可否认，中国人也有自己的问题，但是这个事件是以印度人在中国扮演窃贼的角色出现的，怎么就不扮演一个正面角色呢？
facts of the issue say otherwise. These Indians were employees of the company and have been made scapegoats for the criminal actions of the Yemeni owner of the company. I dont see any Chinese commentator censuring the Yemeni criminal, but every Chinese commentator is jumping in to "advise" the Indians on how to conduct business. My dear Chinese friends, dont forget that your trade with India is worth 67 billion dollars. Yemen on the other hand takes your money and exports terrorists to you (via Pakistan). Please make your choices wisely.
事实不是如此，这两个印度人是也门人老板的雇员，他们实际上为也门老板顶了罪。我没有看到任何中国的评论者责难也门老板，他们都是站出来说应当劝告印度人合法做生意。亲爱的中国朋友！不要忘记中印之间有670亿美元的贸易额。也门人呢，他们赚你们的钱，然后通过巴基斯坦向你们出口恐怖主义，请你们作明智的选择。
Shreedhar (Pune, Maharashtra)
07 Jan, 2012 03:42 PM
Chinese advising 'honesty and legality' to Indian traders like dacoits advising 'honesty and virtues' to thieves!!!!
中国劝告印度商人诚实守法就好象土匪劝告小偷要诚实善良一样。
事实不是如此，这两个印度人是也门人老板的雇员，他们实际上为也门老板顶了罪。我没有看到任何中国的评论者责难也门老板，他们都是站出来说应当劝告印度人合法做生意。亲爱的中国朋友！不要忘记中印之间有670亿美元的贸易额。也门人呢，他们赚你们的钱，然后通过巴基斯坦向你们出口恐怖主义，请你们作明智的选择。
Shreedhar (Pune, Maharashtra)
07 Jan, 2012 03:42 PM
Chinese advising 'honesty and legality' to Indian traders like dacoits advising 'honesty and virtues' to thieves!!!!
中国劝告印度商人诚实守法就好象土匪劝告小偷要诚实善良一样。
gin China happens according to law. To do business in China you need to have political or social contacts. This is called Guanxi In local chinese terms. Chinese courts even themselves dont follow according to law. There is rampant corruption, dishonesty and immorality in China. China is a country of immorals and selfish opportunists.
中国有法不讲法，在中国做生意你需要的是政治关系与社会关系。在中国当地语言中叫“关系学”，甚至中国的法院也不守法。在中国有近乎疯狂的腐败，不诚实，不道德。中国是一个自私而下流，机会主义横流的国度。
Utpal (Assam)
06 Jan, 2012 03:28 PM
Indian traders should work honestly and legally.... ha...haha...haha.ha ... what are you talk about man... Indian traders are million miles away from honesty for the past 2000 years or more. Indian Traders have Zero honesty in their blood ..... look at all the Indian traders from West and North India living and working in East India & Assam... thieves
印度商人诚实依法经商，哈哈，你在说什么！过去2000年里印度商人距离上述素质差百万公里远。他们身体里没有诚实的血液。看那些从印度西部和北部来的商人，他们生活在印度东部和阿萨姆邦，个个都是小偷。
中国有法不讲法，在中国做生意你需要的是政治关系与社会关系。在中国当地语言中叫“关系学”，甚至中国的法院也不守法。在中国有近乎疯狂的腐败，不诚实，不道德。中国是一个自私而下流，机会主义横流的国度。
Utpal (Assam)
06 Jan, 2012 03:28 PM
Indian traders should work honestly and legally.... ha...haha...haha.ha ... what are you talk about man... Indian traders are million miles away from honesty for the past 2000 years or more. Indian Traders have Zero honesty in their blood ..... look at all the Indian traders from West and North India living and working in East India & Assam... thieves
印度商人诚实依法经商，哈哈，你在说什么！过去2000年里印度商人距离上述素质差百万公里远。他们身体里没有诚实的血液。看那些从印度西部和北部来的商人，他们生活在印度东部和阿萨姆邦，个个都是小偷。
不要相互责怪，最好是成立一个联合委员会，找出这个公司的真正老板，真正的罪犯，是谁买的货，由此来查清事实。在全球化进程中，中国与印度比过去任何时候都需要相互依存。
foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said that "China is a country under the rule of law," lol...biggest joke in 2012....wtf?? really ??? rule?? which rule u r talking abt??making duplicate apple macbook and selling them for 2000 yuan in a open mall?? duplicating indian drugs and indian food products and selling in india by the help of some m**fer indian businessman who only wants money.....duplicating nike,puma and other big brand company and selling them in TAOBAO( i know this bcoz i was there for 6 yrs).. and when u asking government to stop this they will remain silent. .is this ur rule??enough is enough....dont make stupid joke infront of media...we know ur government very much!!
中国外交部发言人洪磊说“中国是一个法制国家”，最大的笑话！！！。谈什么法制？仿造苹果笔记本竟敢公开地在商店里叫卖，只2000元一台??? 仿造印度的药品、食物借助那些见钱眼开的印度商人之手卖给印度。仿造nike ,puma和一些著名商标产品在淘宝网上拍卖（我在中国已经6年了，知道这一切）。如果有谁要求政府取缔这些伪冒品，政府就装聋作哑。这就是洪磊所说的法制？太多了，太多了。不要在媒体面前制造大多的笑话了，我对你们的政府太了解了。
中国外交部发言人洪磊说“中国是一个法制国家”，最大的笑话！！！。谈什么法制？仿造苹果笔记本竟敢公开地在商店里叫卖，只2000元一台??? 仿造印度的药品、食物借助那些见钱眼开的印度商人之手卖给印度。仿造nike ,puma和一些著名商标产品在淘宝网上拍卖（我在中国已经6年了，知道这一切）。如果有谁要求政府取缔这些伪冒品，政府就装聋作哑。这就是洪磊所说的法制？太多了，太多了。不要在媒体面前制造大多的笑话了，我对你们的政府太了解了。
no, no......indians should be dishonest to buy goods in china since they are cheap duplicate and pirated; but all ordered in india, manufactured in china and sold to poor slumdogs in india.
印度买中国制造的盗版商品也是不诚实的表现，这些便宜商品在中国制造，被印度商人订购，卖给印度的贫民。
印度买中国制造的盗版商品也是不诚实的表现，这些便宜商品在中国制造，被印度商人订购，卖给印度的贫民。
need to do is ban & Cut down on Chinese imports & promote domestic manufacturers. Catch hold of a few Chinese in India and extend similar hospitality as endured by the Indians. China is labeled as the most pirated patent thieves in the world,lets not talk about there diplomacy let be in trade,currency,or even to the the extent of being close to rogue nation in the world like Syria, Iran,North Korea & Pakistan
印度应当抑制从中国进口商品，促进国内的制造业。抓几个在印度的中国人，给予他们“友好”的待遇，就象他们给我们印度同胞的一样。中国已经在世界上标明是专利盗版帝国，我们不必仅在外交层面看问题，在贸易，金融及其它层面上。中国与那些流氓国家，如叙利亚，伊朗，朝鲜，巴基斯坦基本上是一流货色。
印度应当抑制从中国进口商品，促进国内的制造业。抓几个在印度的中国人，给予他们“友好”的待遇，就象他们给我们印度同胞的一样。中国已经在世界上标明是专利盗版帝国，我们不必仅在外交层面看问题，在贸易，金融及其它层面上。中国与那些流氓国家，如叙利亚，伊朗，朝鲜，巴基斯坦基本上是一流货色。
还钱是正理，其他的多说无益...
yes indeed. india should immediately stop (note it is not ban or cut down) all trade import/export with china immediately. recall all our ambassadors in china and deport all chinese ones in india. then close all borders so that no connections whatsoever with them. except india which is pure, china and all other nations are rogues including syria, iran, north kore and pakistan.
对的，印度应当立即停止（不是制抵也不是削减）与中国的贸易进出口。召回我国驻中国大使，驱逐所有在印度的中国人，关闭边界，与中国断绝所有关系。除了印度是唯一纯洁的国度，中国及其它国家都是流氓，包括叙利亚，伊朗，朝鲜，巴基斯坦。
对的，印度应当立即停止（不是制抵也不是削减）与中国的贸易进出口。召回我国驻中国大使，驱逐所有在印度的中国人，关闭边界，与中国断绝所有关系。除了印度是唯一纯洁的国度，中国及其它国家都是流氓，包括叙利亚，伊朗，朝鲜，巴基斯坦。
Chinese only for low quality products . Everyone knows China has the biggest foreign direct investment, and a lot of factories run by such foreign investors export trash to all over the world, especially their home country. When they make dirty money, China bears the bad name as it is "made in China". There are also a lot of foreign importors coming to China asking for low price products with no requirement on the quality. China government should take action on supervising the quality of the goods exported from China, but the importing country should also be responsible for supervising the importors. It would never be workable to ban all trades with another country, which will only isolate yourself.
不要指责中国说中国只会制造低品质商品，谁都知道中国吸引了最大的国外直接投资，大量的外国人在中国建工厂，然后把生产出来的垃圾产品推销给世界，特别是他们自己的国家。这些人挣了脏钱，而中国却揽上了坏名声，因为这些垃圾商品上都印有“中国制造”。还有很多外国人到中国专门收购低价商品。中国政府理所当然应对出口商品的质量负有监督责任，但是进口国也有责任对进口商品质量进行监督。所谓断绝贸易关系的想法完全是不可取的，那只会孤立你自己。
不要指责中国说中国只会制造低品质商品，谁都知道中国吸引了最大的国外直接投资，大量的外国人在中国建工厂，然后把生产出来的垃圾产品推销给世界，特别是他们自己的国家。这些人挣了脏钱，而中国却揽上了坏名声，因为这些垃圾商品上都印有“中国制造”。还有很多外国人到中国专门收购低价商品。中国政府理所当然应对出口商品的质量负有监督责任，但是进口国也有责任对进口商品质量进行监督。所谓断绝贸易关系的想法完全是不可取的，那只会孤立你自己。
有些印度读者散布对中国的仇恨，我相信你们的有些评论完全出于爱国主义热情，然而我不认为抨击他国可以使自己国家强大，应当有理性，要公正，提出好的有建设性的建议给政府，协助政府更好的解决这场纠纷。说些好斗的狠话在容易了，但是最好是提出一些明智有用解决办法。极端的言语不会为印度人民赢来尊严，对中国网民的言语我也有同样的建议。 不是啊3把
Why is everyone getting so excited? Don't Indian businessmen cheat other Indians also? They probably tried the same with the Chinese and were unlucky enough to get caught before they could run away. But they were lucky to escape alive. China has executed even state governors for corruption. Instead of blindly supporting corrupt businessmen just because they happen to be Indian, we should use some common to understand what most likely happened in Yiwu. At least there is one country where corrupt businessmen will have fear of the consequences.
怎么都这么兴奋？不是印度商人欺骗另外一些印度消费者吗？他们可能在中国也想做这样的事，很不幸在脱身之前被抓个正着。他们也很幸运，因为活着逃身了。中国对贪污的高官毫不手软，对这些商业网开一面仅由于他们是印度人，外国人。我们只需用常识就能理解发生在义乌的事件究竟是怎么回事。至少中国还是这样的一个国度，不诚实守法经营的商人还是有所顾忌的。
怎么都这么兴奋？不是印度商人欺骗另外一些印度消费者吗？他们可能在中国也想做这样的事，很不幸在脱身之前被抓个正着。他们也很幸运，因为活着逃身了。中国对贪污的高官毫不手软，对这些商业网开一面仅由于他们是印度人，外国人。我们只需用常识就能理解发生在义乌的事件究竟是怎么回事。至少中国还是这样的一个国度，不诚实守法经营的商人还是有所顾忌的。
reading so many posts, I think I should share my view with my indian friends here to avoid more hatered. Sometimes hatered is caused by misleading information and lacking of communication. I cannot ensure my comment is not baised as I'm a Chinese, but I will try my best to be fair and objective. Forgive my bad English as I'm not native English speaker. First, I could briefly summarize this "incident" as follows: It is claimed that two Indian businessmen were in trade disputes with local suppliers in Yiwu, and were be brought to court for law suit. An Indian diplomat come to help and try to bring them to Shanghai, but was "ill-treated" by the local police, and as a result, this civil case upgrated to a diplomatic issue. But I would like to figure out the true face of the story based on my knowledge of the local business (I was born and brought up in a city not far from Yiwu, so I'm very familiar with the local business and practice): Though Yiwu city is a trade hub in China now, most of the products traded in the market are "low-value" smallwares, such like toys, clothes, stationeries, etc. Most of the products are manufactured in private-run small factories. Most of the suppliers of such products are not the manufacturors, but the middleman. They usually buy the products from the factories on credit. When they get payment from the importors (the indian businessman in this case), they pay back to the factories. However, if the fail to get the payment from the importor, the facotory owner will still seek payment from such middleman. If the middlement do not pay, he will get a bad name in local market and his business career should end immediately. I can easiliy understand how angry such suppliers will be when they learned that the owner of the importor has run away. They must have taken all actions, including some extreme actions like detaining the indian employees. But I don't believe the local police will let the local businessman to have any voilent action against foreigners (foreigners are always respected by common Chinese people). So the true story may be, the suppliers try to stop the indian businessman to leave and bring a law suit at the local court. They are angry and may show aggressive behaviers towards the indian businessman. The police are engaged to protect these indians and prevent the things upgraded to a big deplomatic problem (sad that they not acheive the goal). The indian businessmen are scared and called the deplomat to offer help, but the deplomat failed to bring them out of Yiwu as the local authority knows well what it means to the angry suppliers, and is scared the suppliers will shift their angry to the government.
看了这么多帖子，我认为我该对印度的朋友讲几句话了，因为我看到仇恨。仇恨有时是由于误导与缺乏交流产生的。我不保证我的评论不带有观点，因为我是中国人，但是我会努力做到客观公正。原谅我，我的英文水平不高，我不是以英语为母语的。首先我可以简单概括这个事件。两名印度人与义乌当地商人发生经济纠纷，被起诉到法院。印度的外交官赶到义乌试图把他们带回上海，但是被当地警察粗暴地对待，这样一个商业纠纷变成了外交纠纷。我在此想以我对当地商业环境的了解推想出事情的真象。（我出生成长在离义乌不远的地方，因此我非常了解当地的商业习惯）。尽管义乌现在是中国的一个小商品中心，但是大多数经营的产品都是低价值的“小商品”，如玩具，衣服，文具等。大多数产品出自于私人小企业，供应商大多都不是制造商而是中间商。他们大多向生产者赊购产品，卖给国外的进口商（本案中的印度商人），收回货款后再与生产商结账。如果中间商在外国进口商那里得不到货款，他们也要向生产商支付货款。如果中间商拖欠货款，他的商业信誉就完了，也没有办法在当地混下去。我能理解当这些中间商得知外国进口商（印度商人）想卷款而逃时有多么愤怒。他们必须采取行动，包括一些极端行为，如扣押这两名印度雇员。但我不相信当地警察会放任这样的行为。（外国人在中国总是得到尊重）。因此真正的情况应当是：中国的中间商阻止印度商人的离开，而且在法院起诉了他们。他们可能因为愤怒采取了一些过激行为，警察也可能介入平息事态，制止事态的扩大。（可悲的是他们的好心没有好报），这两名印度人可能吓过头了，打电话向上海领事馆求助。而这名来救援的外交官没有能把他的国民带走，因为当地政府知道如果就这么走了那些愤怒的中间商会做出什么事来，他们会把愤怒投向当地政府
看了这么多帖子，我认为我该对印度的朋友讲几句话了，因为我看到仇恨。仇恨有时是由于误导与缺乏交流产生的。我不保证我的评论不带有观点，因为我是中国人，但是我会努力做到客观公正。原谅我，我的英文水平不高，我不是以英语为母语的。首先我可以简单概括这个事件。两名印度人与义乌当地商人发生经济纠纷，被起诉到法院。印度的外交官赶到义乌试图把他们带回上海，但是被当地警察粗暴地对待，这样一个商业纠纷变成了外交纠纷。我在此想以我对当地商业环境的了解推想出事情的真象。（我出生成长在离义乌不远的地方，因此我非常了解当地的商业习惯）。尽管义乌现在是中国的一个小商品中心，但是大多数经营的产品都是低价值的“小商品”，如玩具，衣服，文具等。大多数产品出自于私人小企业，供应商大多都不是制造商而是中间商。他们大多向生产者赊购产品，卖给国外的进口商（本案中的印度商人），收回货款后再与生产商结账。如果中间商在外国进口商那里得不到货款，他们也要向生产商支付货款。如果中间商拖欠货款，他的商业信誉就完了，也没有办法在当地混下去。我能理解当这些中间商得知外国进口商（印度商人）想卷款而逃时有多么愤怒。他们必须采取行动，包括一些极端行为，如扣押这两名印度雇员。但我不相信当地警察会放任这样的行为。（外国人在中国总是得到尊重）。因此真正的情况应当是：中国的中间商阻止印度商人的离开，而且在法院起诉了他们。他们可能因为愤怒采取了一些过激行为，警察也可能介入平息事态，制止事态的扩大。（可悲的是他们的好心没有好报），这两名印度人可能吓过头了，打电话向上海领事馆求助。而这名来救援的外交官没有能把他的国民带走，因为当地政府知道如果就这么走了那些愤怒的中间商会做出什么事来，他们会把愤怒投向当地政府
2012 09:15 AM
You are missing a vital point. Please be objective like you promised or else your views wil have to be considered biased. The Indian traders were only employees of a firm whose owner cheated the Chinese traders. The Indian traders were themselves cheated when the owner ran away and left them to manage the situation. Not only the Indian diplomat, the traders themselves were physically assaulted by the Chinese traders. Now can you comment objectively? As I see it objectively, the Chinese traders behaved in a hooliganistic manner. After that the local authorities behaved with total disregard of human rights when they forced the diplomat to collapse without medicines. The answer to these mistakes is not advising Indian traders to work honestly and legally. The Chinese Govt must, instead, advise its own traders not to assault innocent foreigners and its local Govt to respect human rights. Please get your facts and moral compass right before acting as an arbitrator.
你漏掉了一个关键点，就好象你承诺的一样要客观一点，否则你的观点就是带有偏见的。这两名印度商人不过是一个公司的雇员，是这个公司欺骗了中国的商人。这两名印度雇员也是受害者，他们的雇主跑了，让他们留下来处理烂摊子。不仅是印度外交官，就是这两名商人也受到了人身攻击。你对此客观评价了吗？我来客观地讲，中国商人的行为的确是瘪三行为。当地政府的行为完全是侵犯人权，他们把外交官逼昏了。对这样行为的回答不应当是告知印度政府要教育印度商人诚实守法经营。中国政府必须教育本国的国民不要攻击无辜的外国人，教育地方政府尊重人权。请你尊重事实，调好你的道德指针，先不要俨然象一个判官。
Rajat (Shenzhen ) replies to Aurav
06 Jan, 2012 05:58 PM
Indians are quite good at arguing and arguing, but for this case, Indians are really behaving as cheaters, and will not be well treated anywhere whether being in China or others. This is a case following many other Indian crimes in China this year alone.
印度人真善于争吵，除了这一案件之外，印度人实在到处都是骗子，在全世界任何地方都不会得到善待。本案仅是今年发生在中国众多案件中的一个。
You are missing a vital point. Please be objective like you promised or else your views wil have to be considered biased. The Indian traders were only employees of a firm whose owner cheated the Chinese traders. The Indian traders were themselves cheated when the owner ran away and left them to manage the situation. Not only the Indian diplomat, the traders themselves were physically assaulted by the Chinese traders. Now can you comment objectively? As I see it objectively, the Chinese traders behaved in a hooliganistic manner. After that the local authorities behaved with total disregard of human rights when they forced the diplomat to collapse without medicines. The answer to these mistakes is not advising Indian traders to work honestly and legally. The Chinese Govt must, instead, advise its own traders not to assault innocent foreigners and its local Govt to respect human rights. Please get your facts and moral compass right before acting as an arbitrator.
你漏掉了一个关键点，就好象你承诺的一样要客观一点，否则你的观点就是带有偏见的。这两名印度商人不过是一个公司的雇员，是这个公司欺骗了中国的商人。这两名印度雇员也是受害者，他们的雇主跑了，让他们留下来处理烂摊子。不仅是印度外交官，就是这两名商人也受到了人身攻击。你对此客观评价了吗？我来客观地讲，中国商人的行为的确是瘪三行为。当地政府的行为完全是侵犯人权，他们把外交官逼昏了。对这样行为的回答不应当是告知印度政府要教育印度商人诚实守法经营。中国政府必须教育本国的国民不要攻击无辜的外国人，教育地方政府尊重人权。请你尊重事实，调好你的道德指针，先不要俨然象一个判官。
Rajat (Shenzhen ) replies to Aurav
06 Jan, 2012 05:58 PM
Indians are quite good at arguing and arguing, but for this case, Indians are really behaving as cheaters, and will not be well treated anywhere whether being in China or others. This is a case following many other Indian crimes in China this year alone.
印度人真善于争吵，除了这一案件之外，印度人实在到处都是骗子，在全世界任何地方都不会得到善待。本案仅是今年发生在中国众多案件中的一个。
我现在算是明白了，有人说如果你同时看见一个印度人和一条蛇，你必须首先杀死印度人，然后再杀蛇。
easy to condemn the people involved in this case or any other without knowing the full facts (which are under investigation right now by the Chinese authorities) and based on impressions alone. I don't wish to do that, that's all.
在不明白真象仅凭主观印象就谴责别人是不负责任的行为（事情还在调查之中），我不这样做。
Mohan (Chennai) replies to Aurav
06 Jan, 2012 09:40 AM
can you stop intruding with your silly comments until you have read the whole piece. Being an Indian and living in Singapore, with majority Chinese, you are still acting like a villager from a remote Indian village who haven't worked or seen Chinese. That is a big shame to you. The comment column here has restriction on no. of characters, so stay put to read the whole piece before you try to jump and show your ignorance of nationalism and patriotism
在你没有了解全部事情时不要把你的愚蠢评论放出来，你还算是一个印度人，住在新加坡，与好多中国人生活在一起，怎么你还是象一个印度深山里的士包子，羞愧！这里的评论栏还是有一定限制的。建议你先看，不要急于跳进来展示你无知的民族主义与爱国主义感情。
在不明白真象仅凭主观印象就谴责别人是不负责任的行为（事情还在调查之中），我不这样做。
Mohan (Chennai) replies to Aurav
06 Jan, 2012 09:40 AM
can you stop intruding with your silly comments until you have read the whole piece. Being an Indian and living in Singapore, with majority Chinese, you are still acting like a villager from a remote Indian village who haven't worked or seen Chinese. That is a big shame to you. The comment column here has restriction on no. of characters, so stay put to read the whole piece before you try to jump and show your ignorance of nationalism and patriotism
在你没有了解全部事情时不要把你的愚蠢评论放出来，你还算是一个印度人，住在新加坡，与好多中国人生活在一起，怎么你还是象一个印度深山里的士包子，羞愧！这里的评论栏还是有一定限制的。建议你先看，不要急于跳进来展示你无知的民族主义与爱国主义感情。
this should be an issue to be resovled by the court, isn't it? I understand from the report that the businessman are before the court when the diplomat tries to bring them to Shanghai. Why we not allow the court procedure completed? I don't think these businessmen have the diplomat immunity from legal procedures in China
是的，由法院来判决这个纠纷。从报到中我获知，外交官来时法院正在开庭审理案件，外交官提出要带他们到上海，为什么不能等到法庭把庭开完？我不认为这两位商人有外交豁免权，不受中国法律的制约。
Aurav replies to Mohan
06 Jan, 2012 10:22 AM
If you cannot refrain from personal comments, don't expect a reply from me. I don't have much respect for people like you who cannot argue a point without maligning someone. You are a far cry from cultured and dignified Indians. I strongly suspect that you are a cowardly Paki, just creating a bad name for India and Indians using the freedom of expression on this site
如果你不节制你的个人评论，我也不想回答你。我对你没有多少尊重，你不攻击人好象不会说话。你与一个有教养有尊严的印度人有太大的差别。我非常怀疑你是巴基斯坦懦夫。你想乔装成印度人发表奇谈怪论，败坏印度人的名声。
Honest Indian (Mumbai) replies to Aurav
06 Jan, 2012 11:16 AM
aurav: tell me which Indian is cultured and dignified. which indian does not malign other indians. which indian is not a chor. which indian is not crafty and deceit others. which indian does not exploit their countrymen especially the under-privilidged and poor. which billionaire indian engaged in charitable and social work like bill gates, warren buffett and the likes. i am a crooked indian and I admit that with sadness and you are no better off than me. why are you so ashamed of being indian and to be a super super one when all are looters and cheaters headed by the world's largest crook - PM singh and now to call others paki
告诉我! 哪个印度人是有教养的有尊严的，哪个印度人不诽谤别的印度人，哪个印度人不是狡猾的，欺骗他人的，哪个印度人不剥削同胞，特别是穷人，哪个印度富翁象比尔.盖茨或马菲特一样搞点慈善事业或者社会工作。我是一个不安分的印度人，我伤感地承认你比我好不到哪去。为什么要羞于为印度人？所有的印度人都是世界最大的流氓—辛格领导下的掠夺者与骗子，我们都称别人是巴基斯坦人。 啊3JY
是的，由法院来判决这个纠纷。从报到中我获知，外交官来时法院正在开庭审理案件，外交官提出要带他们到上海，为什么不能等到法庭把庭开完？我不认为这两位商人有外交豁免权，不受中国法律的制约。
Aurav replies to Mohan
06 Jan, 2012 10:22 AM
If you cannot refrain from personal comments, don't expect a reply from me. I don't have much respect for people like you who cannot argue a point without maligning someone. You are a far cry from cultured and dignified Indians. I strongly suspect that you are a cowardly Paki, just creating a bad name for India and Indians using the freedom of expression on this site
如果你不节制你的个人评论，我也不想回答你。我对你没有多少尊重，你不攻击人好象不会说话。你与一个有教养有尊严的印度人有太大的差别。我非常怀疑你是巴基斯坦懦夫。你想乔装成印度人发表奇谈怪论，败坏印度人的名声。
Honest Indian (Mumbai) replies to Aurav
06 Jan, 2012 11:16 AM
aurav: tell me which Indian is cultured and dignified. which indian does not malign other indians. which indian is not a chor. which indian is not crafty and deceit others. which indian does not exploit their countrymen especially the under-privilidged and poor. which billionaire indian engaged in charitable and social work like bill gates, warren buffett and the likes. i am a crooked indian and I admit that with sadness and you are no better off than me. why are you so ashamed of being indian and to be a super super one when all are looters and cheaters headed by the world's largest crook - PM singh and now to call others paki
告诉我! 哪个印度人是有教养的有尊严的，哪个印度人不诽谤别的印度人，哪个印度人不是狡猾的，欺骗他人的，哪个印度人不剥削同胞，特别是穷人，哪个印度富翁象比尔.盖茨或马菲特一样搞点慈善事业或者社会工作。我是一个不安分的印度人，我伤感地承认你比我好不到哪去。为什么要羞于为印度人？所有的印度人都是世界最大的流氓—辛格领导下的掠夺者与骗子，我们都称别人是巴基斯坦人。 啊3JY
I am very sorry to hear such views of yours. I can assure you that there are millions of honest, dignified and caring Indians. You may not have come across them. I suggest, if you would like to be one of them, to do so and automatically your circles will start including such Indians whom we can feel at home with.
我对你的观点感到非常震惊，我可以向你保证在印度有千百万诚实的印度人，有尊严的人，关爱社会的人。你可能没有与他们交往过，我建议，如果你想与他们接触，就这么做，你会不由自主地接受你的同胞，你与他们在一起有回家的感觉。
我对你的观点感到非常震惊，我可以向你保证在印度有千百万诚实的印度人，有尊严的人，关爱社会的人。你可能没有与他们交往过，我建议，如果你想与他们接触，就这么做，你会不由自主地接受你的同胞，你与他们在一起有回家的感觉。
不要发这些东西 会影响你的智商
三儿的平均智商，据说是80
这些东西看多了，当心传染上阿三的神油病。
问题是钱弄回来了吗？
不清楚这个事~~
但观点只有一个：杀人偿命，欠债还钱，不管你Y是印度人还是天顶星人，跑到我们的地盘坑我们，都不会有好果子吃。
但观点只有一个：杀人偿命，欠债还钱，不管你Y是印度人还是天顶星人，跑到我们的地盘坑我们，都不会有好果子吃。
不就是阿三个别奸商在义乌犯了点事吗，中国和印度没必要为这点小事互相大骂。
主要还是一些三弟的媒体胡说八道把正常的事情闹的大了
骗了钱想跑，没门！
欠债还钱，印度人真傻，还有给小偷骗子辩护的
欠债还钱，天经地义！阿3不知道？
快点儿还钱，扯什么皮
拦人钱财如同杀人父母。。。。阿三你和兔子的仇恨大了啊
年关到了,赶紧还钱！
三儿们的意思是，那两个三儿也不是老板，老板是个也门人。
那两位也是雇员。老板跑路了，留下这两个雇员在擦屁股。
所以大部分三儿认为这两位是无辜的，所以你们虐待了他们，也许还爆了这俩位的菊花（伟大的湿婆神呀，谁会这么的重口味呢？）
于是，都是兔子的错，三儿是没有错的。
那两位也是雇员。老板跑路了，留下这两个雇员在擦屁股。
所以大部分三儿认为这两位是无辜的，所以你们虐待了他们，也许还爆了这俩位的菊花（伟大的湿婆神呀，谁会这么的重口味呢？）
于是，都是兔子的错，三儿是没有错的。
说到底，还是义务那些土鳖商人傻，怎么就能被三儿骗了呢！
钱钱不能丢~必须要回来！！！
啊三的发言怎么那么理智，让我危机感大增。。。文章标题有问题。正确的翻译因该是“中国说印度商人应尊守中国法律诚实经商“。印度时报极其反华。