老外评AK、AR、莫辛(精辟)

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There's an ever present, unending debate over which is best, ARs or AKs, raging across the internet and in gun shops every day sending bile and bitter insults spewing both ways. This debate has turned fathers against sons, best friends against one another, and........well you get the point. The author is of the opinion that there are of course pros and cons to each family of rifle, and I refuse to engage in what is "best". As one who loves them all, especially the AK and AR series, I thought I'd pass on some of the knowledge I have gained over the years concerning these wildly different weapons. As a bonus, I'll toss in my knowledge of another favorite family of weapons at the Bunker, just because they are very popular these days and I often ramble about them. So, here, for the aid of those hammering one another in the debate, is some unbiased, non-slanted, untainted raw knowledge about the AK, the AR, and the Mosin Nagant.
有一个一直存在,永无休止的关于AK系列和AR系列哪个更好的争论,从互联网上到GUN械商店中每天都有人为这个问题互相发泄怒气或酸溜溜地挖苦对方。这个问题使父子成仇,好友反目……行,你抓住要点了。作者的观点是每个GUN族无疑都有优点和缺点,并且我拒绝指出哪个是“最好的”。作为一个爱着所有枪械,尤其是AK系列和AR系列的人,我想我最好传授一些这些年来我从研究这些完全不同的武器中所汲取的知识。作为奖励,我会扔进一些我关于另一种碉堡中最受喜爱的GUN族的知识,仅仅是因为它们这些天非常流行且我经常浏览它们。所以,在这儿的,是为了给在辩论中互相捶打的人们以参考的,一些不偏不倚的、平衡的、未经污蔑的关于AK、AR与莫辛纳甘的知识。

Stuff you know if you have an AK
如果你有一支AK,你应知道:
Stuff you know if you have an AR
如果你有一支AR15,你应知道:
Stuff you know if you have a Mosin Nagant
如果你有一支莫辛纳甘,你应知道:

It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.
-即使你从不保养它,它也能工作。你永远不用保养。
You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
-你要用每盎司9美元的特制无洗涤剂特氟龙合成润滑油保养它。
It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.
-它上一次保养是在1945年的柏林。
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
-你能在谷仓里面击中其侧壁。
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
-你能在离谷仓600米处击中其侧壁。
You can hit the farm from two counties over.
-你能在两个村子开外的地方击中农场。

Cheap mags are fun to buy.
-买便宜的弹匣很有意思。
Cheap mags melt.
-便宜的弹匣会熔化。(有些黑市上的奸商会把AR15系列的弹夹弄成铝质的,而AR15的枪机散热一直都很差劲……)
What's a mag?
-弹匣是什么?

Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
-你开保险的声音能在300米外被听到。
You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
-你能在手指搭在扳机上的情况下静悄悄地翻开保险。
What's a safety?
-保险是什么?

Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
-你的步枪上有条便宜的尼龙背带。
Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
-你的步枪上有套9点式匿迹战术悬挂系统。
You rifle has dog collars-你的步枪上有条狗链。There's an ever present, unending debate over which is best, ARs or AKs, raging across the internet and in gun shops every day sending bile and bitter insults spewing both ways. This debate has turned fathers against sons, best friends against one another, and........well you get the point. The author is of the opinion that there are of course pros and cons to each family of rifle, and I refuse to engage in what is "best". As one who loves them all, especially the AK and AR series, I thought I'd pass on some of the knowledge I have gained over the years concerning these wildly different weapons. As a bonus, I'll toss in my knowledge of another favorite family of weapons at the Bunker, just because they are very popular these days and I often ramble about them. So, here, for the aid of those hammering one another in the debate, is some unbiased, non-slanted, untainted raw knowledge about the AK, the AR, and the Mosin Nagant.
有一个一直存在,永无休止的关于AK系列和AR系列哪个更好的争论,从互联网上到GUN械商店中每天都有人为这个问题互相发泄怒气或酸溜溜地挖苦对方。这个问题使父子成仇,好友反目……行,你抓住要点了。作者的观点是每个GUN族无疑都有优点和缺点,并且我拒绝指出哪个是“最好的”。作为一个爱着所有枪械,尤其是AK系列和AR系列的人,我想我最好传授一些这些年来我从研究这些完全不同的武器中所汲取的知识。作为奖励,我会扔进一些我关于另一种碉堡中最受喜爱的GUN族的知识,仅仅是因为它们这些天非常流行且我经常浏览它们。所以,在这儿的,是为了给在辩论中互相捶打的人们以参考的,一些不偏不倚的、平衡的、未经污蔑的关于AK、AR与莫辛纳甘的知识。

Stuff you know if you have an AK
如果你有一支AK,你应知道:
Stuff you know if you have an AR
如果你有一支AR15,你应知道:
Stuff you know if you have a Mosin Nagant
如果你有一支莫辛纳甘,你应知道:

It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.
-即使你从不保养它,它也能工作。你永远不用保养。
You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
-你要用每盎司9美元的特制无洗涤剂特氟龙合成润滑油保养它。
It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.
-它上一次保养是在1945年的柏林。
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
-你能在谷仓里面击中其侧壁。
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
-你能在离谷仓600米处击中其侧壁。
You can hit the farm from two counties over.
-你能在两个村子开外的地方击中农场。

Cheap mags are fun to buy.
-买便宜的弹匣很有意思。
Cheap mags melt.
-便宜的弹匣会熔化。(有些黑市上的奸商会把AR15系列的弹夹弄成铝质的,而AR15的枪机散热一直都很差劲……)
What's a mag?
-弹匣是什么?

Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
-你开保险的声音能在300米外被听到。
You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
-你能在手指搭在扳机上的情况下静悄悄地翻开保险。
What's a safety?
-保险是什么?

Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
-你的步枪上有条便宜的尼龙背带。
Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
-你的步枪上有套9点式匿迹战术悬挂系统。
You rifle has dog collars-你的步枪上有条狗链。
Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
-你的刺刀是把不错的剪线钳。
Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
-你的刺刀实际上是一把完美的牛排餐刀。
Your bayonet is longer than your leg.
-你的刺刀比你的腿还长。

You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it.
-你能在12英寸厚的橡木板上打出一个0.30英寸的洞,前提是你得打中。
You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
-你能在100米外把30发子弹打进纸靶子的同一个洞中。
You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.
-你能用子弹在弹道上产生的冲击波震倒其他所有人的靶子。

When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
-当弹药耗尽时,你的步GUN会成为名义上的棒子。
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
-当弹药耗尽时,你的步GUN会成为很棒的维弗勒棒球棒。
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
-当弹药耗尽时,你的步GUN会成为优秀的战棍、长矛、船桨、帐篷支柱或柴火。

Recoil is manageable, even fun.
-后坐力是可承受的,甚至是有趣的。
What's recoil?
-后坐力是什么?
Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the previous shot.
-后坐力常被用于将因上次射击而脱臼的肩膀复位。

Your sight adjustment goes to "10", and you've never bothered moving it.
-你的表尺调在“10”档上且你从不烦神去移动它。
Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
-你的表尺以角分为最小单位递增。
Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.
-你的表尺调在12哩处且你已经确实试射过了。

Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
-你的步GUN在世界范围内被任何两位数GDP国家的极度文盲应征兵用于对抗菁英部队。
Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
-你的步GUN在世界范围内被菁英部队用于对抗两位数GDP国家的极度文盲应征兵。
Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.
-你的步GUN与它自己斗争且每次都赢了。

Your rifle won some revolutions.
-你的步GUN赢得了一些革命。
Your rifle won the Cold War.
-你的步GUN赢得了冷战。
Your rifle won a pole vault event.
-你的步GUN赢得了撑杆跳比赛。

You paid $350.
-你花了350美元。
You paid $900.
-你花了900美元。
You paid $59.95.
-你花了59.95美元。

You buy cheap ammo by the case.
-你成箱购买廉价弹药。
You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
-你深情地一发发地装填精密制造的弹药。
You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.
-你把你的弹药从乌克兰一个农民的田里挖出来而且它状态良好。

You can intimidate your foe with the bayonet mounted.
-你可以装好刺刀后恫吓你的仇家。
You foes laugh when you mount your bayonet.
-你的仇家在你上刺刀时大笑。
You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.
-你可以在不离开你的安乐窝的情况下用刺刀干掉在河对岸的你的仇家。(因为太长了。。。)
Service life, 50 years.
-保质期,50年。
Service life, 40 years.
-保质期,40年。
Service life, 100 years, and counting.
-保质期,100年,且延续。

It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes.
-更改子/弹口径不如买把新GUN容易。
You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper.
-更改子/弹口径只需推出一对销钉再换上一个新的上机匣。
You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54r.
-你相信没有真正的男人敢冒被朋友嘲笑的风险提起除了7.62X54R子/弹还有别的什么玩意儿。

You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
-你可以用一柄大锤和一记飞踢修好它。
You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it's under warranty!
-你在有认证的技师那儿以维修它。它可是有保修的!
If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.
-如果坏了,买把新的。

You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards burst into flames.
-你认为把护木打的着火是一项荣耀。
You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group.
-你认为打出一组5MOA下的射弹散布是一项荣耀。
You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4.
-你认为在没有2X4瞄准镜的帮助下5发全中是一项荣耀。(现代人用老式GUN总是不习惯的嘛)

After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn".
-行军一整天后,你看《赤色黎明》来放松。
After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down".
-行军一整天后,你看《黑鹰坠落》来放松。
After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor.
-行军一整天后,你看脊椎指压治疗师来放松。

After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of Vodka.
-保养完后,你有来一大口伏特加的强烈冲动。
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and apple pie.
-保养完后,你有来些热狗和苹果派的强烈冲动。
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob.
-保养完后,你有来些中东式烤肉串的强烈冲动。(因为刺刀可以用来烤肉串,而GUN身可以当柴火)

You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.
-你可以加上新的制退器或漂亮的GUN托。
Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.
-附件比你的枪贵8倍。(。。。)
Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
-附件是个装着有趣液体的小白铁罐,但它被埋在布达佩斯某处一间公寓下。(防锈油泪目)

Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint.
-表面涂有油光漆和涂料。
Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers.
-表面涂有特氟龙和高技术聚合物。
Your rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails.
-表面涂有低级虫胶漆、防腐蚀剂和奥加尔的脚趾甲。

Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
-你的妻子忍耐着你装在相框里的米哈伊尔·卡拉什尼科夫的亲笔签名照。
Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner.
-你的妻子忍耐着你装在相框里的尤金·斯通纳的亲笔签名照。
You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin.
-你不能确定那时有没有照相机能给谢尔盖·莫辛拍照。
早就贴过好几个论坛了
老贴也要回。
有点意思!!
哈哈,这个语言很风趣
哈哈哈哈有意思~
哈哈很有意思
介个好老了
回一个吧
很有意思,但是还是有贬低AK抬高AR之嫌。魔心就不说了·
Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
-你的步GUN在世界范围内被任何两位数GDP国家的极度文盲应征兵用于对抗菁英部队。
Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
-你的步GUN在世界范围内被菁英部队用于对抗两位数GDP国家的极度文盲应征兵。
支持支持!十分感谢!!!  谢谢楼主分享。
貌似老早前就有人发过了吧?!


爱慕石榴精度这么好?错鸟,是AR15。

爱慕石榴精度这么好?错鸟,是AR15。
每次看这个贴,就忍不住想笑
很有意思啊
450815 发表于 2010-10-27 13:43


   
“GUN械商店”-----------肛泻商店?
你的步枪上有条狗链。
(因为刺刀可以用来烤肉串,而GUN身可以当柴火)

红字部分译者想当然了,应该是暗指通过保养Mosin Nagant萌生了阿富汗情结……
注册会员 发表于 2010-10-28 22:01

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两者是何种关系?  ;P
AK的近距离连发精度, 比起一些发射7.62北约弹步枪还是很不错的, 甚至比加利尔还好.
好帖好帖
有意思,太有意思了
呵呵,不错嘛,挺搞笑的
sub-moa 5 shot group是说五发子弹打出半个角分吧。。
Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
-你的步GUN在世界范围内被任何两位数GDP国家的极度文盲应征兵用于对抗菁英部队。
Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
-你的步GUN在世界范围内被菁英部队用于对抗两位数GDP国家的极度文盲应征兵。

这是问题的本质呀。极度文盲应征兵在自己家园里保卫国家,菁英在别人家里保卫自己的家园里保卫国家。
呵呵,有意思
01272064 发表于 2010-10-30 04:31

难道从烤肉联想到阿富汗就不是想当然?
魔人布欧 发表于 2010-11-1 09:20
不是。
01272064 发表于 2010-11-1 14:21
好吧,如果TLB都用莫新,不用AK和其亲戚,不是想当然很合理
哈哈哈哈,实在有趣!
houhou  有意思 1891年照相机发明了 就是莫辛那会儿有没有签名照就两说了
哪位XD使得一手好铲法啊
每次看完这个总觉得莫辛最好
早就看过了,但还是对一些文化上的东西理解不了
麻烦哪位高人给解释下:
1
When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
-当弹药耗尽时,你的步GUN会成为名义上的棒子。
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
-当弹药耗尽时,你的步GUN会成为很棒的维弗勒棒球棒。
——不都是棒子吗?
2
After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn".
-行军一整天后,你看《赤色黎明》来放松。
After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down".
-行军一整天后,你看《黑鹰坠落》来放松。
——这个和枪本身有关系?还是单指文化上的差异?
老帖。。有倾向的调侃
老帖顶一下…除了两位数GDP那段以外还都不错…