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Boeing and Saab AB have signed a Joint Development Agreement (JDA) to offer a solution for the US Air Force's (USAF) T-X trainer requirement, the companies announced on 6 December.

在12月6日,波音和萨博公司宣布,他们已经签署了有关协议来为美国空军的T-X教练机投标提供解决方案。
Boeing will lead the effort to develop and build a replacement platform for the USAF's of Northrop T-38C Talon aircraft, with Saab acting as the primary partner.

波音公司会成为这项计划的主要执行者,开发一种教练平台来取代老化的T-38C教练机,而萨博公司则是这项计划的主要合作伙伴。
"We will invest in development of this completely new aircraft design over the coming years," Saab President and CEO Håkan Buskhe said in a statement. As noted by Bushkhe, and reiterated to IHS Jane's by a Saab spokesperson, the new aircraft will be a completely 'clean sheet' design, and will in no way be a variant of the Saab JAS 39 Gripen fighter.

“我们会在近年内为这一全新的飞机持续投资。”萨博公司的CEO Håkan Buskhe说 (高能瑞典语,翻不来,5th主攻英语)。他也提到了,这一型飞机将是“全新的”设计(同学们注意!),并且它将不会是JAS-39(就是鹰狮)的衍生版本。
The JDA is still very much in its early stages, but Boeing has previously released conceptual images of a proposed design for T-X that reveal a twin-seat, single-engined jet with a front end that resembles that of the Alenia Aermacchi M-346 and KAI T-50, and a diamond-wing and V-tail platform that is reminiscent of the Northrop Grumman YF-23. The Saab spokesperson declined to say if this would form the basis of the JDA T-X offering.

JDA计划目前仍然处在早期阶段,但是波音公司提前放出了有关效果图(上图),包括双座,与M346教练机,T-50教练机一样的前端单发设计,钻石背形状的主翼和像YF-23验证机一样的V形垂尾。但萨博公司的发言人拒绝透露最终的设计是否是这样。
"It's no secret that Boeing is looking at a completely new design [for T-X], but we are not ready to talk about the design or performance specifications just yet," he said, adding; "More information will be forthcoming in the coming months."

“波音公司想寻求一种全新的设计这一点已无人质疑,但是我们还没有准备洽谈具体的技术指标细则。”他说。他还加入了:“更多的信息将会在近几个月中被透露。
According to the source, Boeing and Saab have opted to go down the route of a new design to exactly match the USAF's requirements. "Everyone else is trying to make existing aircraft fit the [T-X] requirements, but we are looking to make something that matches them exactly," he said.

根据现有信息,波音和萨博会根据美国空军T-X的需求设计一种完美完成设计指标的飞机。“其他人都在让现有的飞机达到要求的指标,而我们在寻找一种恰好的解决方案。”他说。
Although the USAF has a stated requirement to replace its more than 300 T-38C aircraft, no programme-of-record currently exists. However, in launching the JDA, Boeing and Saab have demonstrated that an investment is being made and that a request for proposals (RfP) is expected. "This [JDA] is real, and is not just some marketing announcement," the Saab source told IHS Jane's , adding: "T-X will only happen if it is cost effective. The programme has to be delivered on time and on budget, and Saab knows how to do that."

虽然美国空军曾经提出要采购超过300架的T-38C,但是实际存在的计划是没有的。然而,在JDA的进行过程中,波音和萨博已证实这投资和需求是实际存在的。“JDA计划是真的,而并不是什么幌子”萨博公司告诉记者,“T-X只有在有效时才会存在。这计划必须按时并且不超出预算地完成,而萨博公司知道怎么做。”
The USAF is expected to release a draft RfP for T-X in 2016, with an anticipated initial operating capability for about 2023. Other companies that have stated their intentions of entering the T-X competition include BAE Systems with the Hawk, Alenia Aermacchi with the M-346, to be designated T-100 in the United States, and Lockheed Martin with the Korean Aerospace Industries T-50 Golden Eagle.

美国空军打算在2016年对T-X进行竞标,在2023年具备预期的初始操作能力。其他公司也有参加T-X竞标的意向,包括BAE系统公司,阿莱尼亚·马基公司,洛克希德马丁公司和与其合作的韩国宇航工业。

吐槽:呵,波音大神又开始拉小兄弟了,想想贝尔公司吧!

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资料来源于简氏防务网站,5th译制出品。
Boeing and Saab AB have signed a Joint Development Agreement (JDA) to offer a solution for the US Air Force's (USAF) T-X trainer requirement, the companies announced on 6 December.

在12月6日,波音和萨博公司宣布,他们已经签署了有关协议来为美国空军的T-X教练机投标提供解决方案。
Boeing will lead the effort to develop and build a replacement platform for the USAF's of Northrop T-38C Talon aircraft, with Saab acting as the primary partner.

波音公司会成为这项计划的主要执行者,开发一种教练平台来取代老化的T-38C教练机,而萨博公司则是这项计划的主要合作伙伴。
"We will invest in development of this completely new aircraft design over the coming years," Saab President and CEO Håkan Buskhe said in a statement. As noted by Bushkhe, and reiterated to IHS Jane's by a Saab spokesperson, the new aircraft will be a completely 'clean sheet' design, and will in no way be a variant of the Saab JAS 39 Gripen fighter.

“我们会在近年内为这一全新的飞机持续投资。”萨博公司的CEO Håkan Buskhe说 (高能瑞典语,翻不来,5th主攻英语)。他也提到了,这一型飞机将是“全新的”设计(同学们注意!),并且它将不会是JAS-39(就是鹰狮)的衍生版本。
The JDA is still very much in its early stages, but Boeing has previously released conceptual images of a proposed design for T-X that reveal a twin-seat, single-engined jet with a front end that resembles that of the Alenia Aermacchi M-346 and KAI T-50, and a diamond-wing and V-tail platform that is reminiscent of the Northrop Grumman YF-23. The Saab spokesperson declined to say if this would form the basis of the JDA T-X offering.

JDA计划目前仍然处在早期阶段,但是波音公司提前放出了有关效果图(上图),包括双座,与M346教练机,T-50教练机一样的前端单发设计,钻石背形状的主翼和像YF-23验证机一样的V形垂尾。但萨博公司的发言人拒绝透露最终的设计是否是这样。
"It's no secret that Boeing is looking at a completely new design [for T-X], but we are not ready to talk about the design or performance specifications just yet," he said, adding; "More information will be forthcoming in the coming months."

“波音公司想寻求一种全新的设计这一点已无人质疑,但是我们还没有准备洽谈具体的技术指标细则。”他说。他还加入了:“更多的信息将会在近几个月中被透露。
According to the source, Boeing and Saab have opted to go down the route of a new design to exactly match the USAF's requirements. "Everyone else is trying to make existing aircraft fit the [T-X] requirements, but we are looking to make something that matches them exactly," he said.

根据现有信息,波音和萨博会根据美国空军T-X的需求设计一种完美完成设计指标的飞机。“其他人都在让现有的飞机达到要求的指标,而我们在寻找一种恰好的解决方案。”他说。
Although the USAF has a stated requirement to replace its more than 300 T-38C aircraft, no programme-of-record currently exists. However, in launching the JDA, Boeing and Saab have demonstrated that an investment is being made and that a request for proposals (RfP) is expected. "This [JDA] is real, and is not just some marketing announcement," the Saab source told IHS Jane's , adding: "T-X will only happen if it is cost effective. The programme has to be delivered on time and on budget, and Saab knows how to do that."

虽然美国空军曾经提出要采购超过300架的T-38C,但是实际存在的计划是没有的。然而,在JDA的进行过程中,波音和萨博已证实这投资和需求是实际存在的。“JDA计划是真的,而并不是什么幌子”萨博公司告诉记者,“T-X只有在有效时才会存在。这计划必须按时并且不超出预算地完成,而萨博公司知道怎么做。”
The USAF is expected to release a draft RfP for T-X in 2016, with an anticipated initial operating capability for about 2023. Other companies that have stated their intentions of entering the T-X competition include BAE Systems with the Hawk, Alenia Aermacchi with the M-346, to be designated T-100 in the United States, and Lockheed Martin with the Korean Aerospace Industries T-50 Golden Eagle.

美国空军打算在2016年对T-X进行竞标,在2023年具备预期的初始操作能力。其他公司也有参加T-X竞标的意向,包括BAE系统公司,阿莱尼亚·马基公司,洛克希德马丁公司和与其合作的韩国宇航工业。

吐槽:呵,波音大神又开始拉小兄弟了,想想贝尔公司吧!
F18的前机身+F23的屁股?
棒子的T50自求多福?波音战洛马?
哥们专门做翻译的?
贝尔怎么了,有什么典故??
新教练机长得很帅的嘛,模型让我想起之前美国那个私人超音速飞机的样子,就是做得像F15隐身版的那款
估计会和T-50一样用F404发动机。
这是要抢猎鹰的饭碗吗?


棒子的金鹰没戏了,原来还做梦能占全世界一半市场特别是能占领美国教练机市场,这回傻了。

一个日本,一个棒子,心比天高,命比纸薄,至今还做大国梦,还企图自己研制5代机甚至6代机?!

由于门槛越来越高,成本越来越大,今后包括欧洲国家在内的所有中小国家都将失去研制开发先进作战飞机的能力,个别拥有几项先进技术的国家最多成为分系统供应商,因为他们自身的市场太小,无法有效降低成本,更无法抢占他国市场,所以,他们终将逐一退出先进飞机的竞争。

棒子的金鹰没戏了,原来还做梦能占全世界一半市场特别是能占领美国教练机市场,这回傻了。

一个日本,一个棒子,心比天高,命比纸薄,至今还做大国梦,还企图自己研制5代机甚至6代机?!

由于门槛越来越高,成本越来越大,今后包括欧洲国家在内的所有中小国家都将失去研制开发先进作战飞机的能力,个别拥有几项先进技术的国家最多成为分系统供应商,因为他们自身的市场太小,无法有效降低成本,更无法抢占他国市场,所以,他们终将逐一退出先进飞机的竞争。
感脚是L15换了个尾巴..
我感觉它的绰号应该叫“超级小黄蜂”
yangbin2004 发表于 2013-12-11 00:10
哥们专门做翻译的?
正解,但是偶尔也吐吐槽,话说做翻译的真的辛苦。
关注技术指标的公布,看是否是超音速的。
wjwzj 发表于 2013-12-11 10:21
关注技术指标的公布,看是否是超音速的。
好的,我会继续跟踪这方面的信息的,到时候回复你。
现在我特讨厌有人机
明明是IDF单发双垂尾版
这个初步的图感觉不太好看
hey_neo 发表于 2013-12-11 11:15
现在我特讨厌有人机
何出此言?
空军那帮家伙很难伺候诶
专心致志搞好L-15就行了!
要不跟我们一起搞L15吧。。。。
类似德国以前搞那个隐身教练机MAKO倒是挺有意思的,老美可以考虑一下,顺道做个新时代的F-5出来.传统教练机的市场已经不大了,瑞典一直想要小型低成本隐身战斗机,再搞这个无意义,找面条回头去完善m346都比和瑞典从头来一款传统的教练机强.
机头好像心神嘛
鹰王1号 发表于 2013-12-11 00:17
新教练机长得很帅的嘛,模型让我想起之前美国那个私人超音速飞机的样子,就是做得像F15隐身版的那款
那个玩具MS没有用加力涡扇,不能飞超音速
不错的机机,坐等将来的消息
我感觉它的绰号应该叫“超级小黄蜂”
不能再同意,哈哈哈
萨博公司12月6日网站

BOEING AND SAAB SIGN JOINT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON T-X FAMILY OF SYSTEMS TRAINING COMPETITION
6 December 2013, in Press Release

http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Abou ... aining-Competition/