2013年闪电2的试飞安排

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洛马公司表示'今年将交付30架飞机'试飞1153架次完成7689个测试点'实现2A软件交付训练并开始试飞2B软件



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Lockheed addresses Pentagon  F-35 DOT&E report Dave Majumdar 17 Jan 2013
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... rt-381218/
"Lockheed Martin says it is not
disputing the facts laid out in the Pentagon's Director of Operational Test Evaluation (DOT&E) report on the company's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), but says that many ofthe issues raised have already been addressed.
"The challenges that are identified in the report are known items, normal discoveries," says Steve O'Bryan, Lockheed's F-35 business development director."When you look at it from a holistic sense, when you really talk about beginning OT [operational test] in 2017, these are known discoveries,known challenges, and the kind of normal discoveries you'd see in a flight test programme of this size and complexity." Despite the problems highlighted in the report, O'Bryan says 2012 went very well for the stealthy tri-service fighter. "Inmy humble opinion, it was our best year on the programme," he says....

...O'Bryan addresses some of the major problems highlighted in the DOT&E report. One problem, where F-35B short take-off/vertical landing (STOVL) model's durability testing was suspended due to cracking found on a bulkhead flange on the underside of the fuselage during a 7,000-hour inspection, is well on its way to being fixed. Lockheed has found and implemented a solution with a minor "single digit weight impact" and expects to resume tests shortly. "Despite what was reportedin some publications, this did not affect STOVL flight testing," O'Bryan says. "STOVL flight testingcontinued for the whole year."
The STOVL aircraft has had virtually no weight growth for the past 30 months, O'Bryan says. In fact, he says, the weight margin on that variant has increased by betterthan 100lbs to more than 400lbs,
up from about 300lbs. O'Bryan says that if everything works out as the company hopes, that margin should continue to increase if there is no further weight growth.
On the issue of the F-35's software,O'Bryan says that the Block 1 software that has already been delivered is performing very well. A more advanced package called Block 2A has been delivered to Edwards AFB, California, for testing. Later this year, that software block will be delivered to Eglin AFB, Florida, for training. It willallow instructor pilots at the base to use the aircraft's radar, electronic warfare suite, and infrared sensors.It will also enable pilots to simulate weapons releases, O'Bryan says.
As for the DOT&E report, O'Bryan says the company has an agreed upon plan with the F-35 Joint Program Office on developing the software packages which it is
implementing. "We have given to flight test much much greater percentages than were talked about there," he says....
...For 2013, O'Bryan says the company's goals are to deliver more than 30 aircraft, complete a flight test plan of 1153 flights and 7689 test points, releasing Block 2B to flight test, and releasing Block2A to the training fleet at Eglin AFB.Lockheed also hopes to complete the first lifetime of durability testing on the F-35B and C, and the company hopes to start delivering guided weapons from the aircraft. There will also be a second round of sea trials for the F-35B on the USS Wasp and operational testers at Nellis AFB, Nevada, should start to receive their first jets. Additionally, the Italian final assembly line should start delivering jets this year, O'Bryan says."

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Lockheed addresses Pentagon  F-35 DOT&E report Dave Majumdar 17 Jan 2013
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... rt-381218/
"Lockheed Martin says it is not
disputing the facts laid out in the Pentagon's Director of Operational Test Evaluation (DOT&E) report on the company's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), but says that many ofthe issues raised have already been addressed.
"The challenges that are identified in the report are known items, normal discoveries," says Steve O'Bryan, Lockheed's F-35 business development director."When you look at it from a holistic sense, when you really talk about beginning OT [operational test] in 2017, these are known discoveries,known challenges, and the kind of normal discoveries you'd see in a flight test programme of this size and complexity." Despite the problems highlighted in the report, O'Bryan says 2012 went very well for the stealthy tri-service fighter. "Inmy humble opinion, it was our best year on the programme," he says....

...O'Bryan addresses some of the major problems highlighted in the DOT&E report. One problem, where F-35B short take-off/vertical landing (STOVL) model's durability testing was suspended due to cracking found on a bulkhead flange on the underside of the fuselage during a 7,000-hour inspection, is well on its way to being fixed. Lockheed has found and implemented a solution with a minor "single digit weight impact" and expects to resume tests shortly. "Despite what was reportedin some publications, this did not affect STOVL flight testing," O'Bryan says. "STOVL flight testingcontinued for the whole year."
The STOVL aircraft has had virtually no weight growth for the past 30 months, O'Bryan says. In fact, he says, the weight margin on that variant has increased by betterthan 100lbs to more than 400lbs,
up from about 300lbs. O'Bryan says that if everything works out as the company hopes, that margin should continue to increase if there is no further weight growth.
On the issue of the F-35's software,O'Bryan says that the Block 1 software that has already been delivered is performing very well. A more advanced package called Block 2A has been delivered to Edwards AFB, California, for testing. Later this year, that software block will be delivered to Eglin AFB, Florida, for training. It willallow instructor pilots at the base to use the aircraft's radar, electronic warfare suite, and infrared sensors.It will also enable pilots to simulate weapons releases, O'Bryan says.
As for the DOT&E report, O'Bryan says the company has an agreed upon plan with the F-35 Joint Program Office on developing the software packages which it is
implementing. "We have given to flight test much much greater percentages than were talked about there," he says....
...For 2013, O'Bryan says the company's goals are to deliver more than 30 aircraft, complete a flight test plan of 1153 flights and 7689 test points, releasing Block 2B to flight test, and releasing Block2A to the training fleet at Eglin AFB.Lockheed also hopes to complete the first lifetime of durability testing on the F-35B and C, and the company hopes to start delivering guided weapons from the aircraft. There will also be a second round of sea trials for the F-35B on the USS Wasp and operational testers at Nellis AFB, Nevada, should start to receive their first jets. Additionally, the Italian final assembly line should start delivering jets this year, O'Bryan says."

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啥时候打AIM-9响尾蛇导弹啊?不会真挂在机翼上用吧?
另外f35的弹仓到底能不能塞进去6枚aim120啊?

啥时候打AIM-9响尾蛇导弹啊?不会真挂在机翼上用吧?
另外f35的弹仓到底能不能塞进去6枚aim120啊?
啥时候打AIM-9响尾蛇导弹啊?不会真挂在机翼上用吧? 另外f35的弹仓到底能不能塞进去6枚aim120啊?
高攻角飞完就是武器试验,目前响尾蛇只能外挂,AIM120通常是挂2枚,能挂12枚的是还在概念阶段的CUDA导弹
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 16:54
高攻角飞完就是武器试验,目前响尾蛇只能外挂,AIM120通常是挂2枚,能挂12枚的是还在概念阶段的CUDA导弹

哪一个弹仓里面能挂3枚AIM120吗?
哪一个弹仓里面能挂3枚AIM120吗?
我不知道用来挂空地导弹的挂架能否挂AIM120,如果可以那就可以
啥时候打AIM-9响尾蛇导弹啊?不会真挂在机翼上用吧?
另外f35的弹仓到底能不能塞进去6枚aim120啊?
最近买了本小日本编的F35 里面有张插图是一个弹舱塞了3个中距和2个短距 不知道是不是小日本YY的
不给力的肥电
哪位大神翻译下 实在读不懂
哪位大神翻译下 实在读不懂这份报告是针对前几天黑肥电那份报告的洗地报告'大体是说那些问题确实存在'但大多都解决了'B型的裂纹也找到了原因'很快就会恢复地面试验'且不会影响试飞'今年一共会交付30架飞机'完成1153次试飞和7689个测试点'软件方面已经交付的1软件表现很好'今年晚些时候将交付2A软件进行训练'飞行员将学习雷达红外系统的使用'同样在今年还将开始2B软件的试飞.基本就这些
跨音速加速性能不达标的问题怎么搞?

尤其是C型,比原定指标差那么多,难道真要换发?不用F135了?

但是现在也没有其它可用的发动机啊.而且就算能换发,难道机体外型不用有改动?
跨音速加速性能不达标的问题怎么搞?   尤其是C型,比原定指标差那么多,难道真要换发?不用F135了?
AB型可以通过增推解决'C型必须换发
lixiaoyong 发表于 2013-1-18 17:37
哪一个弹仓里面能挂3枚AIM120吗?
要等以后升级.

空间上够.
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 20:10
AB型可以通过增推解决'C型必须换发
C型换发那麻烦就太大了

F136也被砍了, 新一代发动机没个最少七八年根本搞不出来

还不如砍了C型,直接上五代给海军用了

我敢说老美海军高层自个心里也是这个想法
C型换发那麻烦就太大了   F136也被砍了, 新一代发动机没个最少七八年根本搞不出来
如果其他能过关的话'加速慢就慢点吧
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 20:21
如果其他能过关的话'加速慢就慢点吧
不可能对C型加速性要求大降

海空一体战就是对付天朝的,现在J2031都在紧锣密鼓的试飞中

到时又肥又慢的C型在争夺制空权时遇上这两同样隐型,但飞行性能好的多的主, 跟送死有核分别?

不可能对C型加速性要求大降   海空一体战就是对付天朝的,现在J2031都在紧锣密鼓的试飞中
本来机动性就是四代垫底'比台风还有些差距'再差些也无所谓了
不可能对C型加速性要求大降   海空一体战就是对付天朝的,现在J2031都在紧锣密鼓的试飞中
除了跨音速加速稳盘也没有达标'
1111XM 发表于 2013-1-18 20:19
C型换发那麻烦就太大了

F136也被砍了, 新一代发动机没个最少七八年根本搞不出来
前几天的航空周刊上介绍说F-136项目准备换个方式死灰复燃!
前几天的航空周刊上介绍说F-136项目准备换个方式死灰复燃!
推力要增大多少才能把那45秒补回来
1111XM 发表于 2013-1-18 20:27
不可能对C型加速性要求大降

海空一体战就是对付天朝的,现在J2031都在紧锣密鼓的试飞中

呵呵,就本朝的水平,还估计f22rcs只有0.5平方米等级.

指望自己的飞机rcs会很低?

让人想起毛子当年把f15的升力系数和升阻比估计得一塌糊涂的事情
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 21:15
推力要增大多少才能把那45秒补回来
一般说了增推15%以上就可以
一般说了增推15%以上就可以
45秒增推百分15就能补回来啊'那如果要做到20秒内从马赫0.8加到1.2要多大的推力'就肥电
呵呵,就本朝的水平,还估计f22rcs只有0.5平方米等级.   指望自己的飞机rcs会很低?
没有吧'估计F22一直是0.1'估计F35倒是有过0.5后来也改成0.1
1111XM 发表于 2013-1-18 20:27
不可能对C型加速性要求大降

海空一体战就是对付天朝的,现在J2031都在紧锣密鼓的试飞中
如果有一天,TG可以把F-35拖入近距离空战,美国海/.空军可以投降.



蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 21:24
45秒增推百分15就能补回来啊'那如果要做到20秒内从马赫0.8加到1.2要多大的推力'就肥电
这个不太清楚,因为飞机加速性除了与发动机推力和阻力特性有关外,与飞机的重量大小也关系很大,简单来说,同一架飞机由于自身载荷不同,加速性也不同!
如果有一天,TG可以把F-35拖入近距离空战,美国海/.空军可以投降.
如果武器不如人就要投降那别的国家早该投降了
如果有一天,TG可以把F-35拖入近距离空战,美国海/.空军可以投降.
而且四代机的导弹全部可以向后打'谁也别想压制谁

蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 21:35
如果武器不如人就要投降那别的国家早该投降了


视距内空战分析


配置                          持续G @ 0.9M/30k ft                                         瞬时G
1                                            2                                                        7
2                                            3                                                        9
3                                            4                                                        9

JSF使用ESA版本的APG-68V5和ALR-69.没有GCI.拦截机有GCI支持.拦截机对JSF的截获距离是75nm.
拦截机保持在20k ft, JSF在截获拦截机以后,爬升接战.
JSF内部挂载4枚JDAMs.外部挂载2枚AIM-9.

配置                      威胁          使用AIM-9M的生存概率         使用AIM-9X和头盔瞄准具的生存概率   
1                         4代机                    0.4                                            0.6                                                     
2                         4代机                    0.45                                          0.8
3                         4代机                    0.5                                            0.8
F-16A                  Mig-23                  0.8                                            
F-16C                  Su-27                   0.6


http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a327531.pdf
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 21:35
如果武器不如人就要投降那别的国家早该投降了


视距内空战分析


配置                          持续G @ 0.9M/30k ft                                         瞬时G
1                                            2                                                        7
2                                            3                                                        9
3                                            4                                                        9

JSF使用ESA版本的APG-68V5和ALR-69.没有GCI.拦截机有GCI支持.拦截机对JSF的截获距离是75nm.
拦截机保持在20k ft, JSF在截获拦截机以后,爬升接战.
JSF内部挂载4枚JDAMs.外部挂载2枚AIM-9.

配置                      威胁          使用AIM-9M的生存概率         使用AIM-9X和头盔瞄准具的生存概率   
1                         4代机                    0.4                                            0.6                                                     
2                         4代机                    0.45                                          0.8
3                         4代机                    0.5                                            0.8
F-16A                  Mig-23                  0.8                                            
F-16C                  Su-27                   0.6


http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a327531.pdf


APG-68V5和ALR-69


这都什么假设啊

再说美帝的自卫导弹基本都是120了

拦截机对JSF的截获距离是75nm

那美帝投资搞隐身技术还干嘛呢?

APG-68V5和ALR-69


这都什么假设啊

再说美帝的自卫导弹基本都是120了

拦截机对JSF的截获距离是75nm

那美帝投资搞隐身技术还干嘛呢?
APG-68V5和ALR-69   
料己从严'料敌从宽
APG-68V5和ALR-69   
我在想多大能的雷达对RCS0.1的目标探测距离是75
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 22:13
我在想多大能的雷达对RCS0.1的目标探测距离是75
并且按照假设 jsf 爬升接敌,感情这75nm还是下视探测距离呢
我在想多大能的雷达对RCS0.1的目标探测距离是75
据说F35的电子战设备对F22雷达的截获距离有100nm,同时天朝有王院士和无限的资金,看来MD必将丢盔卸甲,滚回老家去并且惶惶不可终日
并且按照假设 jsf 爬升接敌,感情这75nm还是下视探测距离呢
想来是预警机雷达改装的
据说F35的电子战设备对F22雷达的截获距离有100nm,同时天朝有王院士和无限的资金,看来MD必将丢盔卸甲,滚 ...
原来F22还更烂啊'受教
并且按照假设 jsf 爬升接敌,感情这75nm还是下视探测距离呢
APG81雷达直接退化成APG68V5'这雷达现在市场上还有吗?分布孔径系统'CNI网络'综合电子系统'射频管理系统全部不翼而飞
不可能对C型加速性要求大降

海空一体战就是对付天朝的,现在J2031都在紧锣密鼓的试飞中

C是用来更换小虫子的,海军攻击机中队。制空中队还是超虫。
不给力的肥电
蛤蟆值夜班 发表于 2013-1-18 20:41
本来机动性就是四代垫底'比台风还有些差距'再差些也无所谓了
机动性是比猛鸟,特务零差些, 但要求也不低,绝不会是再差些也无所谓

球电到底不是轰炸机,空战也是必备的主要任务

尤其A型,别人都是拿来做主力制空机的,怎么可能不讲究机动性,敏锐性这些呢?
笑脸男人 发表于 2013-1-18 21:32
如果有一天,TG可以把F-35拖入近距离空战,美国海/.空军可以投降.
只能说球电,甚至包括猛鸟会尽可能避免近身缠斗

但作为战机的设计, 使用者, 不可能不考虑会有这种情况发生

尤其以后真有四代对四代的话, 近战的事估计也不少了