超级军网外国网民评论歼31战机成功首飞
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以下是美国（外国）网民的评论：
OG_Locc
"placing the rising Asian power just behind the U.S."
LOL. Really?
If by "just behind" - you mean multiple decades - this shitty hack job of an article is spot on. LMAO
“这个崛起中的亚洲大国仅次于美国”
笑，真的吗？
如果真是“仅次于”，那么你说的是仅落后几十年吧。粗制滥造的文章由此可见一斑。笑翻了。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
stardave2020
Agreed, China is like 60 years behind us. As long as they don't have FREEDOM!!! and DEMOCRACY!!! they will always be behind.
It is not like they are the largest manufacturing nation on earth, it is not like they have a economy to support it, it is not like they are investing massively into their education and future generation. And of course it is not like they are white.
So yeah, China will always be behind US as long as the human species continue to exist.
USA!!! USA!!!!
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供支撑的经济，在下一代的教育上大规模投资，然而民主和自由不是以上方面可以比拟的。当然，也不在于他们不是白人。
所以，只要人种仍然存在下去，中国就会一直落后美国。
美国！美国！
Toby1
Chinese aviation has a long way to go before they catch up with US tech. That is just a simple fact.
中国航空业要想追上美国，还有很长一段路要走。这是简单的事实。
stardave2020
Ok let me summarize 90% of response here
1. USA STRONG!!!!!
2. China weak
3. USA REAL STEATH!!!!
4. China 60 years behind
5. USA STRONG!!!!!!
6. Cheap Chinese clone
7. USA STRONG!!!!!!!
there ya go.
好吧，让我总结下这里90%的评论。
1、美国强！
2、中国弱
3、美国战机真正隐形
4、中国落后60年
5、美国强！
6、中国廉价复制
7、美国强！
OG_Locc
China's only about 20 something years behind on the stealth aspect. But you're right, they're about 50 years behind on the engine technology.
中国在隐形方面只落后大约20年。不过你说得对，他们在发动机技术上落后大约50年。
Thomas
my wife loves Chinese made Chanel hand bags, they look real and are cheap!!! I would get a pair of Oakley sun glasses myself, but I'm just afraid my eyeballs will get sun burned without that UV coating they put on the lenses. LOL
我妻子喜欢中国产的香奈儿手袋，看起来逼真又便宜！我自己本想买一副奥克利太阳镜，不过担心镜片上没有涂防紫外线涂料而眼睛被灼伤，笑。
Thomas
We buy Chinese products everyday because we don't have much of a choice: everything is made in China! The Chinese labor is so cheap, I love it! But poor little red commie guys, I feel sorry for them working to death in sweatshops 12 hours days for $1 while I buy a shit load of fun stuff to enjoy in my free time (hahah, get it? FREE time....FREEDOM?). At least the Chinese workers only have one child to feed, its cheaper that way too.
我们每天都买中国货，因为没得选择：每一件东西都是中国产！中国劳动力非常便宜，我喜欢！不过要为可怜赤色小共表示遗憾，他们为了1美元在血汗工厂每天累死累活上班12个小时，而我在自由时间里买一大堆东西来享受（哈哈，懂没？自由时间...自由？）。至少中国工人只要抚养一个小孩，那样负担也更轻就是了。
BANSAK9214
It will in no way be able to compete with Japan's new F-3 TigerLion...now also in secret development.
绝对无法与日本正在秘密开发的F-3 TigerLion战机竞争。
Lee Powney
China 2011 trade SURPLUS= $155.14 billion USD
USA 2011 trade DEFICIT $558 billion USD
USA 2010 spending on defence $683.7 billion USD
I dont think they will be behind for long... get used to it
中国2011年贸易盈余1551.4亿美元
美国201年贸易赤字5580亿美元
美国2010年军费开支6837亿美元
我认为他们不会落后多久...你会习惯的。
Jimsworld
This is great news!
We may need help in pushing back the next alien invasion, and with China helping us out we might even have a chance.
(cause without the USA, China is is just a back water 3rd world country - who else is going to buy there ‘Made in China’ plastic - I suppose Russia will
这是好消息！
在打退外星人的入侵时，我们可能需要帮忙。有了中国的帮助，我们或许有胜算。
没有美国，中国就是个落后的第三世界国家——谁还会购买“中国造”的塑料制品——我猜俄罗斯会
quackula1
China would like to thank the following corporations for their contributions:
Boeing
Lockheed-Martin
Military Contractors and Sub Contractors
"Thanks for letting us steal your technology"
中国会想感谢以下公司的贡献：
1、波音
2、洛克希德马丁
3、军备承包商和分包商
“谢谢让我们偷你们的技术”
PeteEllis
So, all we really know is that it looks high tech and can fly. Right? How is this a huge leap forward for the Falcon Eagle? Last I heard the Chinese were relying on Russian made engines for their warplanes.
所以我们真正知道的就是看起来高科技和可以飞，对吧？怎么会是巨大飞跃？我上次听说中国战机依赖俄罗斯提供发动机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Federale
Stealth? It looks like an F-15 copy.
隐形战机？看起来就像是F-15飞机的复制品。
Tim Culley
This is such a gross exaggeration of Chinese air power it is irresponsible.
China is perhaps 35 years away from having a fleet comparable to that of the United States TODAY. You make it sound as though they are about to become the worlds strongest air power which is completely misleading. The gap will only widen in the future.
把中国空军力量说得太夸张了吧，这是不负责任的。
要想打造堪比当今美国的舰队，中国还需要35年的时间。你说得好像中国空军快要成为世界最强大空军一样，这完全是误导。差距在未来只会扩大。
fabio gonzalez
I guess spying does pay off for the chinese.
我认为中国人的间谍活动确实成功。
MauriceAGuarin
This just amazes me how the Chinese military has come so far in aviation
震惊了，中国空军已经走得如此之远。
goldeneye
It's one prototype with old-generation major parts. The US has over 100 F-22's in service...
这是用上一代机型主要零件拼装起来的原型机。美国已经服役100多架F-22隐形战机...
hnlee
Though everyone looks down upon them today, the Chinese is a very smart race. They can come up with products that could be ultimately surprise everyone.
All you need is very smart people and money, and they have got both.
So laugh as you like and one day you will laugh no more.
虽然大家今天看不起中国人，不过他们是非常聪明的种族，可以生产出最终让每个人吃惊的产品。
你所需要的一切就是聪明的人和钱。中国人两个都有。
所以你就尽情取笑吧，总有一天你再也笑不出来。
majrod
They might have "smart people" but once other people stop coming up with new ideas to copy you're kind of stuck. I'll be much more concerned when China invents something. Until then we need to get serious about security and tech transfer. That will slow the Chinese down a decade.
他们或许有“聪明人”，不过一旦别人没有推出新创意让其山寨，他们就卡住了。我更关注中国什么时候发明一些东西。在此之前，我们需要严重关切技术安全和技术转移，这样可以延缓中国发展达十年之久。
GerardAlvarado
maybe you should move to china them
也许你应该搬到中国去。
goldeneye
Note the non-stealthy engine outlets, old-style. Also the steep, sharp angles on everything; which is against stealth.
注意看不符合隐形设计的发动机外沿。还有遍布机身的棱棱角角，这些都不符合隐形设计。
stardave2020
Come on guys, don't disappoint me, let all the butthurt comment flow in.
Don't forget to include the following points.
1. Cheap Chinese Copy
2. 10000% as a result of Chinese hackers
3. Just a single technology demonstrator with no ability to produce more
etc. etc...
Come on "China experts" it is time for you to shine.
加油，各位，别让我失望，把所有恼羞成怒的言论都放上来吧。
别忘了包括以下几点：
1、廉价的中国复制品
2、100%是中国黑客偷来的技术
3、只是一架展示技术的原型机，没有能力批量生产
等等...
加油，现在该是“中国专家” 光芒四射的时候了。
goldeyene
But it'll turn out to be just a copy of old US stealth technology. It doesn't seem to be completely stealthy either. It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* How could it dogfight anyone? Its big & clumsy, 3rd rate, Chinese copy-cat *technology.*
结果会是美国老款隐形技术的复制品。看起来也不像具有完全隐形能力。作为战机来说体积太庞大。怎么空战？这是中国三流山寨技术生产出来的庞大笨拙战机。
johnboy4546
"It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* "
It appears to be significantly smaller than the Su-27 flying alongside it, and the Su-27 is most definitely a fighter
“作为战机来说体积太庞大”。
——似乎明显比伴飞的苏-27飞机更小。毫无疑问，苏-27是战机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Tim Culley
No offense but I'm not sure that the plane deserves to be called "stealth just because the outside is a little smoother looking. What evidence do you have that this plane actually has a reduced radar/thermal cross section?
请勿见怪，不过我不确定这架飞机是否仅因为更平整就配得上隐形称号。还有哪些证据可以证明这架飞机的雷达截面积确实降低了？
aggielawyer
It's pretty easy to slam through a stealth fighter development plan when you can steal designs and technology from other countries. You can also save money on design and development AND, in the case of China, on labor costs.
当你可以从其他国家偷来设计和技术时，全力发展隐形战机就相当简单了。你可以节约一大笔设计和开发费用。就中国而言，还可以降低劳动力成本。
Blair Toland
The Chinese can't even figure out how to make a jet engine that doesn't grenade after five hours...Their stealth attempts are basic propaganda at best, death traps for their poor pilots at worse. Let me know when they stop buying engines from Vladimir.
中国人连飞机发动机都捣鼓不出来，他们开发的隐形战机最多是用于宣传的基本型，是可怜飞行员的死亡陷阱。我倒想看看他们什么时候不再向弗拉基米尔·普京购买发动机。
Chuckiechan
The best technology ever stolen.
这是偷来的最好技术。以下是美国（外国）网民的评论：
OG_Locc
"placing the rising Asian power just behind the U.S."
LOL. Really?
If by "just behind" - you mean multiple decades - this shitty hack job of an article is spot on. LMAO
“这个崛起中的亚洲大国仅次于美国”
笑，真的吗？
如果真是“仅次于”，那么你说的是仅落后几十年吧。粗制滥造的文章由此可见一斑。笑翻了。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
stardave2020
Agreed, China is like 60 years behind us. As long as they don't have FREEDOM!!! and DEMOCRACY!!! they will always be behind.
It is not like they are the largest manufacturing nation on earth, it is not like they have a economy to support it, it is not like they are investing massively into their education and future generation. And of course it is not like they are white.
So yeah, China will always be behind US as long as the human species continue to exist.
USA!!! USA!!!!
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供支撑的经济，在下一代的教育上大规模投资，然而民主和自由不是以上方面可以比拟的。当然，也不在于他们不是白人。
所以，只要人种仍然存在下去，中国就会一直落后美国。
美国！美国！
Toby1
Chinese aviation has a long way to go before they catch up with US tech. That is just a simple fact.
中国航空业要想追上美国，还有很长一段路要走。这是简单的事实。
stardave2020
Ok let me summarize 90% of response here
1. USA STRONG!!!!!
2. China weak
3. USA REAL STEATH!!!!
4. China 60 years behind
5. USA STRONG!!!!!!
6. Cheap Chinese clone
7. USA STRONG!!!!!!!
there ya go.
好吧，让我总结下这里90%的评论。
1、美国强！
2、中国弱
3、美国战机真正隐形
4、中国落后60年
5、美国强！
6、中国廉价复制
7、美国强！
OG_Locc
China's only about 20 something years behind on the stealth aspect. But you're right, they're about 50 years behind on the engine technology.
中国在隐形方面只落后大约20年。不过你说得对，他们在发动机技术上落后大约50年。
Thomas
my wife loves Chinese made Chanel hand bags, they look real and are cheap!!! I would get a pair of Oakley sun glasses myself, but I'm just afraid my eyeballs will get sun burned without that UV coating they put on the lenses. LOL
我妻子喜欢中国产的香奈儿手袋，看起来逼真又便宜！我自己本想买一副奥克利太阳镜，不过担心镜片上没有涂防紫外线涂料而眼睛被灼伤，笑。
Thomas
We buy Chinese products everyday because we don't have much of a choice: everything is made in China! The Chinese labor is so cheap, I love it! But poor little red commie guys, I feel sorry for them working to death in sweatshops 12 hours days for $1 while I buy a shit load of fun stuff to enjoy in my free time (hahah, get it? FREE time....FREEDOM?). At least the Chinese workers only have one child to feed, its cheaper that way too.
我们每天都买中国货，因为没得选择：每一件东西都是中国产！中国劳动力非常便宜，我喜欢！不过要为可怜赤色小共表示遗憾，他们为了1美元在血汗工厂每天累死累活上班12个小时，而我在自由时间里买一大堆东西来享受（哈哈，懂没？自由时间...自由？）。至少中国工人只要抚养一个小孩，那样负担也更轻就是了。
BANSAK9214
It will in no way be able to compete with Japan's new F-3 TigerLion...now also in secret development.
绝对无法与日本正在秘密开发的F-3 TigerLion战机竞争。
Lee Powney
China 2011 trade SURPLUS= $155.14 billion USD
USA 2011 trade DEFICIT $558 billion USD
USA 2010 spending on defence $683.7 billion USD
I dont think they will be behind for long... get used to it
中国2011年贸易盈余1551.4亿美元
美国201年贸易赤字5580亿美元
美国2010年军费开支6837亿美元
我认为他们不会落后多久...你会习惯的。
Jimsworld
This is great news!
We may need help in pushing back the next alien invasion, and with China helping us out we might even have a chance.
(cause without the USA, China is is just a back water 3rd world country - who else is going to buy there ‘Made in China’ plastic - I suppose Russia will
这是好消息！
在打退外星人的入侵时，我们可能需要帮忙。有了中国的帮助，我们或许有胜算。
没有美国，中国就是个落后的第三世界国家——谁还会购买“中国造”的塑料制品——我猜俄罗斯会
quackula1
China would like to thank the following corporations for their contributions:
Boeing
Lockheed-Martin
Military Contractors and Sub Contractors
"Thanks for letting us steal your technology"
中国会想感谢以下公司的贡献：
1、波音
2、洛克希德马丁
3、军备承包商和分包商
“谢谢让我们偷你们的技术”
PeteEllis
So, all we really know is that it looks high tech and can fly. Right? How is this a huge leap forward for the Falcon Eagle? Last I heard the Chinese were relying on Russian made engines for their warplanes.
所以我们真正知道的就是看起来高科技和可以飞，对吧？怎么会是巨大飞跃？我上次听说中国战机依赖俄罗斯提供发动机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Federale
Stealth? It looks like an F-15 copy.
隐形战机？看起来就像是F-15飞机的复制品。
Tim Culley
This is such a gross exaggeration of Chinese air power it is irresponsible.
China is perhaps 35 years away from having a fleet comparable to that of the United States TODAY. You make it sound as though they are about to become the worlds strongest air power which is completely misleading. The gap will only widen in the future.
把中国空军力量说得太夸张了吧，这是不负责任的。
要想打造堪比当今美国的舰队，中国还需要35年的时间。你说得好像中国空军快要成为世界最强大空军一样，这完全是误导。差距在未来只会扩大。
fabio gonzalez
I guess spying does pay off for the chinese.
我认为中国人的间谍活动确实成功。
MauriceAGuarin
This just amazes me how the Chinese military has come so far in aviation
震惊了，中国空军已经走得如此之远。
goldeneye
It's one prototype with old-generation major parts. The US has over 100 F-22's in service...
这是用上一代机型主要零件拼装起来的原型机。美国已经服役100多架F-22隐形战机...
hnlee
Though everyone looks down upon them today, the Chinese is a very smart race. They can come up with products that could be ultimately surprise everyone.
All you need is very smart people and money, and they have got both.
So laugh as you like and one day you will laugh no more.
虽然大家今天看不起中国人，不过他们是非常聪明的种族，可以生产出最终让每个人吃惊的产品。
你所需要的一切就是聪明的人和钱。中国人两个都有。
所以你就尽情取笑吧，总有一天你再也笑不出来。
majrod
They might have "smart people" but once other people stop coming up with new ideas to copy you're kind of stuck. I'll be much more concerned when China invents something. Until then we need to get serious about security and tech transfer. That will slow the Chinese down a decade.
他们或许有“聪明人”，不过一旦别人没有推出新创意让其山寨，他们就卡住了。我更关注中国什么时候发明一些东西。在此之前，我们需要严重关切技术安全和技术转移，这样可以延缓中国发展达十年之久。
GerardAlvarado
maybe you should move to china them
也许你应该搬到中国去。
goldeneye
Note the non-stealthy engine outlets, old-style. Also the steep, sharp angles on everything; which is against stealth.
注意看不符合隐形设计的发动机外沿。还有遍布机身的棱棱角角，这些都不符合隐形设计。
stardave2020
Come on guys, don't disappoint me, let all the butthurt comment flow in.
Don't forget to include the following points.
1. Cheap Chinese Copy
2. 10000% as a result of Chinese hackers
3. Just a single technology demonstrator with no ability to produce more
etc. etc...
Come on "China experts" it is time for you to shine.
加油，各位，别让我失望，把所有恼羞成怒的言论都放上来吧。
别忘了包括以下几点：
1、廉价的中国复制品
2、100%是中国黑客偷来的技术
3、只是一架展示技术的原型机，没有能力批量生产
等等...
加油，现在该是“中国专家” 光芒四射的时候了。
goldeyene
But it'll turn out to be just a copy of old US stealth technology. It doesn't seem to be completely stealthy either. It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* How could it dogfight anyone? Its big & clumsy, 3rd rate, Chinese copy-cat *technology.*
结果会是美国老款隐形技术的复制品。看起来也不像具有完全隐形能力。作为战机来说体积太庞大。怎么空战？这是中国三流山寨技术生产出来的庞大笨拙战机。
johnboy4546
"It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* "
It appears to be significantly smaller than the Su-27 flying alongside it, and the Su-27 is most definitely a fighter
“作为战机来说体积太庞大”。
——似乎明显比伴飞的苏-27飞机更小。毫无疑问，苏-27是战机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Tim Culley
No offense but I'm not sure that the plane deserves to be called "stealth just because the outside is a little smoother looking. What evidence do you have that this plane actually has a reduced radar/thermal cross section?
请勿见怪，不过我不确定这架飞机是否仅因为更平整就配得上隐形称号。还有哪些证据可以证明这架飞机的雷达截面积确实降低了？
aggielawyer
It's pretty easy to slam through a stealth fighter development plan when you can steal designs and technology from other countries. You can also save money on design and development AND, in the case of China, on labor costs.
当你可以从其他国家偷来设计和技术时，全力发展隐形战机就相当简单了。你可以节约一大笔设计和开发费用。就中国而言，还可以降低劳动力成本。
Blair Toland
The Chinese can't even figure out how to make a jet engine that doesn't grenade after five hours...Their stealth attempts are basic propaganda at best, death traps for their poor pilots at worse. Let me know when they stop buying engines from Vladimir.
中国人连飞机发动机都捣鼓不出来，他们开发的隐形战机最多是用于宣传的基本型，是可怜飞行员的死亡陷阱。我倒想看看他们什么时候不再向弗拉基米尔·普京购买发动机。
Chuckiechan
The best technology ever stolen.
这是偷来的最好技术。
OG_Locc
"placing the rising Asian power just behind the U.S."
LOL. Really?
If by "just behind" - you mean multiple decades - this shitty hack job of an article is spot on. LMAO
“这个崛起中的亚洲大国仅次于美国”
笑，真的吗？
如果真是“仅次于”，那么你说的是仅落后几十年吧。粗制滥造的文章由此可见一斑。笑翻了。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
stardave2020
Agreed, China is like 60 years behind us. As long as they don't have FREEDOM!!! and DEMOCRACY!!! they will always be behind.
It is not like they are the largest manufacturing nation on earth, it is not like they have a economy to support it, it is not like they are investing massively into their education and future generation. And of course it is not like they are white.
So yeah, China will always be behind US as long as the human species continue to exist.
USA!!! USA!!!!
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供支撑的经济，在下一代的教育上大规模投资，然而民主和自由不是以上方面可以比拟的。当然，也不在于他们不是白人。
所以，只要人种仍然存在下去，中国就会一直落后美国。
美国！美国！
Toby1
Chinese aviation has a long way to go before they catch up with US tech. That is just a simple fact.
中国航空业要想追上美国，还有很长一段路要走。这是简单的事实。
stardave2020
Ok let me summarize 90% of response here
1. USA STRONG!!!!!
2. China weak
3. USA REAL STEATH!!!!
4. China 60 years behind
5. USA STRONG!!!!!!
6. Cheap Chinese clone
7. USA STRONG!!!!!!!
there ya go.
好吧，让我总结下这里90%的评论。
1、美国强！
2、中国弱
3、美国战机真正隐形
4、中国落后60年
5、美国强！
6、中国廉价复制
7、美国强！
OG_Locc
China's only about 20 something years behind on the stealth aspect. But you're right, they're about 50 years behind on the engine technology.
中国在隐形方面只落后大约20年。不过你说得对，他们在发动机技术上落后大约50年。
Thomas
my wife loves Chinese made Chanel hand bags, they look real and are cheap!!! I would get a pair of Oakley sun glasses myself, but I'm just afraid my eyeballs will get sun burned without that UV coating they put on the lenses. LOL
我妻子喜欢中国产的香奈儿手袋，看起来逼真又便宜！我自己本想买一副奥克利太阳镜，不过担心镜片上没有涂防紫外线涂料而眼睛被灼伤，笑。
Thomas
We buy Chinese products everyday because we don't have much of a choice: everything is made in China! The Chinese labor is so cheap, I love it! But poor little red commie guys, I feel sorry for them working to death in sweatshops 12 hours days for $1 while I buy a shit load of fun stuff to enjoy in my free time (hahah, get it? FREE time....FREEDOM?). At least the Chinese workers only have one child to feed, its cheaper that way too.
我们每天都买中国货，因为没得选择：每一件东西都是中国产！中国劳动力非常便宜，我喜欢！不过要为可怜赤色小共表示遗憾，他们为了1美元在血汗工厂每天累死累活上班12个小时，而我在自由时间里买一大堆东西来享受（哈哈，懂没？自由时间...自由？）。至少中国工人只要抚养一个小孩，那样负担也更轻就是了。
BANSAK9214
It will in no way be able to compete with Japan's new F-3 TigerLion...now also in secret development.
绝对无法与日本正在秘密开发的F-3 TigerLion战机竞争。
Lee Powney
China 2011 trade SURPLUS= $155.14 billion USD
USA 2011 trade DEFICIT $558 billion USD
USA 2010 spending on defence $683.7 billion USD
I dont think they will be behind for long... get used to it
中国2011年贸易盈余1551.4亿美元
美国201年贸易赤字5580亿美元
美国2010年军费开支6837亿美元
我认为他们不会落后多久...你会习惯的。
Jimsworld
This is great news!
We may need help in pushing back the next alien invasion, and with China helping us out we might even have a chance.
(cause without the USA, China is is just a back water 3rd world country - who else is going to buy there ‘Made in China’ plastic - I suppose Russia will
这是好消息！
在打退外星人的入侵时，我们可能需要帮忙。有了中国的帮助，我们或许有胜算。
没有美国，中国就是个落后的第三世界国家——谁还会购买“中国造”的塑料制品——我猜俄罗斯会
quackula1
China would like to thank the following corporations for their contributions:
Boeing
Lockheed-Martin
Military Contractors and Sub Contractors
"Thanks for letting us steal your technology"
中国会想感谢以下公司的贡献：
1、波音
2、洛克希德马丁
3、军备承包商和分包商
“谢谢让我们偷你们的技术”
PeteEllis
So, all we really know is that it looks high tech and can fly. Right? How is this a huge leap forward for the Falcon Eagle? Last I heard the Chinese were relying on Russian made engines for their warplanes.
所以我们真正知道的就是看起来高科技和可以飞，对吧？怎么会是巨大飞跃？我上次听说中国战机依赖俄罗斯提供发动机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Federale
Stealth? It looks like an F-15 copy.
隐形战机？看起来就像是F-15飞机的复制品。
Tim Culley
This is such a gross exaggeration of Chinese air power it is irresponsible.
China is perhaps 35 years away from having a fleet comparable to that of the United States TODAY. You make it sound as though they are about to become the worlds strongest air power which is completely misleading. The gap will only widen in the future.
把中国空军力量说得太夸张了吧，这是不负责任的。
要想打造堪比当今美国的舰队，中国还需要35年的时间。你说得好像中国空军快要成为世界最强大空军一样，这完全是误导。差距在未来只会扩大。
fabio gonzalez
I guess spying does pay off for the chinese.
我认为中国人的间谍活动确实成功。
MauriceAGuarin
This just amazes me how the Chinese military has come so far in aviation
震惊了，中国空军已经走得如此之远。
goldeneye
It's one prototype with old-generation major parts. The US has over 100 F-22's in service...
这是用上一代机型主要零件拼装起来的原型机。美国已经服役100多架F-22隐形战机...
hnlee
Though everyone looks down upon them today, the Chinese is a very smart race. They can come up with products that could be ultimately surprise everyone.
All you need is very smart people and money, and they have got both.
So laugh as you like and one day you will laugh no more.
虽然大家今天看不起中国人，不过他们是非常聪明的种族，可以生产出最终让每个人吃惊的产品。
你所需要的一切就是聪明的人和钱。中国人两个都有。
所以你就尽情取笑吧，总有一天你再也笑不出来。
majrod
They might have "smart people" but once other people stop coming up with new ideas to copy you're kind of stuck. I'll be much more concerned when China invents something. Until then we need to get serious about security and tech transfer. That will slow the Chinese down a decade.
他们或许有“聪明人”，不过一旦别人没有推出新创意让其山寨，他们就卡住了。我更关注中国什么时候发明一些东西。在此之前，我们需要严重关切技术安全和技术转移，这样可以延缓中国发展达十年之久。
GerardAlvarado
maybe you should move to china them
也许你应该搬到中国去。
goldeneye
Note the non-stealthy engine outlets, old-style. Also the steep, sharp angles on everything; which is against stealth.
注意看不符合隐形设计的发动机外沿。还有遍布机身的棱棱角角，这些都不符合隐形设计。
stardave2020
Come on guys, don't disappoint me, let all the butthurt comment flow in.
Don't forget to include the following points.
1. Cheap Chinese Copy
2. 10000% as a result of Chinese hackers
3. Just a single technology demonstrator with no ability to produce more
etc. etc...
Come on "China experts" it is time for you to shine.
加油，各位，别让我失望，把所有恼羞成怒的言论都放上来吧。
别忘了包括以下几点：
1、廉价的中国复制品
2、100%是中国黑客偷来的技术
3、只是一架展示技术的原型机，没有能力批量生产
等等...
加油，现在该是“中国专家” 光芒四射的时候了。
goldeyene
But it'll turn out to be just a copy of old US stealth technology. It doesn't seem to be completely stealthy either. It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* How could it dogfight anyone? Its big & clumsy, 3rd rate, Chinese copy-cat *technology.*
结果会是美国老款隐形技术的复制品。看起来也不像具有完全隐形能力。作为战机来说体积太庞大。怎么空战？这是中国三流山寨技术生产出来的庞大笨拙战机。
johnboy4546
"It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* "
It appears to be significantly smaller than the Su-27 flying alongside it, and the Su-27 is most definitely a fighter
“作为战机来说体积太庞大”。
——似乎明显比伴飞的苏-27飞机更小。毫无疑问，苏-27是战机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Tim Culley
No offense but I'm not sure that the plane deserves to be called "stealth just because the outside is a little smoother looking. What evidence do you have that this plane actually has a reduced radar/thermal cross section?
请勿见怪，不过我不确定这架飞机是否仅因为更平整就配得上隐形称号。还有哪些证据可以证明这架飞机的雷达截面积确实降低了？
aggielawyer
It's pretty easy to slam through a stealth fighter development plan when you can steal designs and technology from other countries. You can also save money on design and development AND, in the case of China, on labor costs.
当你可以从其他国家偷来设计和技术时，全力发展隐形战机就相当简单了。你可以节约一大笔设计和开发费用。就中国而言，还可以降低劳动力成本。
Blair Toland
The Chinese can't even figure out how to make a jet engine that doesn't grenade after five hours...Their stealth attempts are basic propaganda at best, death traps for their poor pilots at worse. Let me know when they stop buying engines from Vladimir.
中国人连飞机发动机都捣鼓不出来，他们开发的隐形战机最多是用于宣传的基本型，是可怜飞行员的死亡陷阱。我倒想看看他们什么时候不再向弗拉基米尔·普京购买发动机。
Chuckiechan
The best technology ever stolen.
这是偷来的最好技术。以下是美国（外国）网民的评论：
OG_Locc
"placing the rising Asian power just behind the U.S."
LOL. Really?
If by "just behind" - you mean multiple decades - this shitty hack job of an article is spot on. LMAO
“这个崛起中的亚洲大国仅次于美国”
笑，真的吗？
如果真是“仅次于”，那么你说的是仅落后几十年吧。粗制滥造的文章由此可见一斑。笑翻了。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
stardave2020
Agreed, China is like 60 years behind us. As long as they don't have FREEDOM!!! and DEMOCRACY!!! they will always be behind.
It is not like they are the largest manufacturing nation on earth, it is not like they have a economy to support it, it is not like they are investing massively into their education and future generation. And of course it is not like they are white.
So yeah, China will always be behind US as long as the human species continue to exist.
USA!!! USA!!!!
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供支撑的经济，在下一代的教育上大规模投资，然而民主和自由不是以上方面可以比拟的。当然，也不在于他们不是白人。
所以，只要人种仍然存在下去，中国就会一直落后美国。
美国！美国！
Toby1
Chinese aviation has a long way to go before they catch up with US tech. That is just a simple fact.
中国航空业要想追上美国，还有很长一段路要走。这是简单的事实。
stardave2020
Ok let me summarize 90% of response here
1. USA STRONG!!!!!
2. China weak
3. USA REAL STEATH!!!!
4. China 60 years behind
5. USA STRONG!!!!!!
6. Cheap Chinese clone
7. USA STRONG!!!!!!!
there ya go.
好吧，让我总结下这里90%的评论。
1、美国强！
2、中国弱
3、美国战机真正隐形
4、中国落后60年
5、美国强！
6、中国廉价复制
7、美国强！
OG_Locc
China's only about 20 something years behind on the stealth aspect. But you're right, they're about 50 years behind on the engine technology.
中国在隐形方面只落后大约20年。不过你说得对，他们在发动机技术上落后大约50年。
Thomas
my wife loves Chinese made Chanel hand bags, they look real and are cheap!!! I would get a pair of Oakley sun glasses myself, but I'm just afraid my eyeballs will get sun burned without that UV coating they put on the lenses. LOL
我妻子喜欢中国产的香奈儿手袋，看起来逼真又便宜！我自己本想买一副奥克利太阳镜，不过担心镜片上没有涂防紫外线涂料而眼睛被灼伤，笑。
Thomas
We buy Chinese products everyday because we don't have much of a choice: everything is made in China! The Chinese labor is so cheap, I love it! But poor little red commie guys, I feel sorry for them working to death in sweatshops 12 hours days for $1 while I buy a shit load of fun stuff to enjoy in my free time (hahah, get it? FREE time....FREEDOM?). At least the Chinese workers only have one child to feed, its cheaper that way too.
我们每天都买中国货，因为没得选择：每一件东西都是中国产！中国劳动力非常便宜，我喜欢！不过要为可怜赤色小共表示遗憾，他们为了1美元在血汗工厂每天累死累活上班12个小时，而我在自由时间里买一大堆东西来享受（哈哈，懂没？自由时间...自由？）。至少中国工人只要抚养一个小孩，那样负担也更轻就是了。
BANSAK9214
It will in no way be able to compete with Japan's new F-3 TigerLion...now also in secret development.
绝对无法与日本正在秘密开发的F-3 TigerLion战机竞争。
Lee Powney
China 2011 trade SURPLUS= $155.14 billion USD
USA 2011 trade DEFICIT $558 billion USD
USA 2010 spending on defence $683.7 billion USD
I dont think they will be behind for long... get used to it
中国2011年贸易盈余1551.4亿美元
美国201年贸易赤字5580亿美元
美国2010年军费开支6837亿美元
我认为他们不会落后多久...你会习惯的。
Jimsworld
This is great news!
We may need help in pushing back the next alien invasion, and with China helping us out we might even have a chance.
(cause without the USA, China is is just a back water 3rd world country - who else is going to buy there ‘Made in China’ plastic - I suppose Russia will
这是好消息！
在打退外星人的入侵时，我们可能需要帮忙。有了中国的帮助，我们或许有胜算。
没有美国，中国就是个落后的第三世界国家——谁还会购买“中国造”的塑料制品——我猜俄罗斯会
quackula1
China would like to thank the following corporations for their contributions:
Boeing
Lockheed-Martin
Military Contractors and Sub Contractors
"Thanks for letting us steal your technology"
中国会想感谢以下公司的贡献：
1、波音
2、洛克希德马丁
3、军备承包商和分包商
“谢谢让我们偷你们的技术”
PeteEllis
So, all we really know is that it looks high tech and can fly. Right? How is this a huge leap forward for the Falcon Eagle? Last I heard the Chinese were relying on Russian made engines for their warplanes.
所以我们真正知道的就是看起来高科技和可以飞，对吧？怎么会是巨大飞跃？我上次听说中国战机依赖俄罗斯提供发动机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Federale
Stealth? It looks like an F-15 copy.
隐形战机？看起来就像是F-15飞机的复制品。
Tim Culley
This is such a gross exaggeration of Chinese air power it is irresponsible.
China is perhaps 35 years away from having a fleet comparable to that of the United States TODAY. You make it sound as though they are about to become the worlds strongest air power which is completely misleading. The gap will only widen in the future.
把中国空军力量说得太夸张了吧，这是不负责任的。
要想打造堪比当今美国的舰队，中国还需要35年的时间。你说得好像中国空军快要成为世界最强大空军一样，这完全是误导。差距在未来只会扩大。
fabio gonzalez
I guess spying does pay off for the chinese.
我认为中国人的间谍活动确实成功。
MauriceAGuarin
This just amazes me how the Chinese military has come so far in aviation
震惊了，中国空军已经走得如此之远。
goldeneye
It's one prototype with old-generation major parts. The US has over 100 F-22's in service...
这是用上一代机型主要零件拼装起来的原型机。美国已经服役100多架F-22隐形战机...
hnlee
Though everyone looks down upon them today, the Chinese is a very smart race. They can come up with products that could be ultimately surprise everyone.
All you need is very smart people and money, and they have got both.
So laugh as you like and one day you will laugh no more.
虽然大家今天看不起中国人，不过他们是非常聪明的种族，可以生产出最终让每个人吃惊的产品。
你所需要的一切就是聪明的人和钱。中国人两个都有。
所以你就尽情取笑吧，总有一天你再也笑不出来。
majrod
They might have "smart people" but once other people stop coming up with new ideas to copy you're kind of stuck. I'll be much more concerned when China invents something. Until then we need to get serious about security and tech transfer. That will slow the Chinese down a decade.
他们或许有“聪明人”，不过一旦别人没有推出新创意让其山寨，他们就卡住了。我更关注中国什么时候发明一些东西。在此之前，我们需要严重关切技术安全和技术转移，这样可以延缓中国发展达十年之久。
GerardAlvarado
maybe you should move to china them
也许你应该搬到中国去。
goldeneye
Note the non-stealthy engine outlets, old-style. Also the steep, sharp angles on everything; which is against stealth.
注意看不符合隐形设计的发动机外沿。还有遍布机身的棱棱角角，这些都不符合隐形设计。
stardave2020
Come on guys, don't disappoint me, let all the butthurt comment flow in.
Don't forget to include the following points.
1. Cheap Chinese Copy
2. 10000% as a result of Chinese hackers
3. Just a single technology demonstrator with no ability to produce more
etc. etc...
Come on "China experts" it is time for you to shine.
加油，各位，别让我失望，把所有恼羞成怒的言论都放上来吧。
别忘了包括以下几点：
1、廉价的中国复制品
2、100%是中国黑客偷来的技术
3、只是一架展示技术的原型机，没有能力批量生产
等等...
加油，现在该是“中国专家” 光芒四射的时候了。
goldeyene
But it'll turn out to be just a copy of old US stealth technology. It doesn't seem to be completely stealthy either. It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* How could it dogfight anyone? Its big & clumsy, 3rd rate, Chinese copy-cat *technology.*
结果会是美国老款隐形技术的复制品。看起来也不像具有完全隐形能力。作为战机来说体积太庞大。怎么空战？这是中国三流山寨技术生产出来的庞大笨拙战机。
johnboy4546
"It's a huge plane for a *fighter.* "
It appears to be significantly smaller than the Su-27 flying alongside it, and the Su-27 is most definitely a fighter
“作为战机来说体积太庞大”。
——似乎明显比伴飞的苏-27飞机更小。毫无疑问，苏-27是战机。
原创翻译：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
Tim Culley
No offense but I'm not sure that the plane deserves to be called "stealth just because the outside is a little smoother looking. What evidence do you have that this plane actually has a reduced radar/thermal cross section?
请勿见怪，不过我不确定这架飞机是否仅因为更平整就配得上隐形称号。还有哪些证据可以证明这架飞机的雷达截面积确实降低了？
aggielawyer
It's pretty easy to slam through a stealth fighter development plan when you can steal designs and technology from other countries. You can also save money on design and development AND, in the case of China, on labor costs.
当你可以从其他国家偷来设计和技术时，全力发展隐形战机就相当简单了。你可以节约一大笔设计和开发费用。就中国而言，还可以降低劳动力成本。
Blair Toland
The Chinese can't even figure out how to make a jet engine that doesn't grenade after five hours...Their stealth attempts are basic propaganda at best, death traps for their poor pilots at worse. Let me know when they stop buying engines from Vladimir.
中国人连飞机发动机都捣鼓不出来，他们开发的隐形战机最多是用于宣传的基本型，是可怜飞行员的死亡陷阱。我倒想看看他们什么时候不再向弗拉基米尔·普京购买发动机。
Chuckiechan
The best technology ever stolen.
这是偷来的最好技术。
国内军迷很淡定， 国外网民高潮连连。。。。。。 这是闹那样？
这样的美国人越多越好~
wcf 发表于 2012-11-1 17:17 
国内军迷很淡定， 国外网民高潮连连。。。。。。 这是闹那样？
其实吧 全国网民都一个吊样{:chan:}
国内军迷很淡定， 国外网民高潮连连。。。。。。 这是闹那样？
其实吧 全国网民都一个吊样{:chan:}
等了两天终于等到了。一切如我所想'非常正常。让他们酸去吧。走自己的路'让别人无路可走。
倭人的核辐射还能影响美国？真没想到。
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供支撑的经济，在下一代的教育上大规模投资，然而民主和自由不是以上方面可以比拟的。当然，也不在于他们不是白人。
所以，只要人种仍然存在下去，中国就会一直落后美国。
美国！美国！
这才是真相啊！！不过听起来好像反讽啊
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供支撑的经济，在下一代的教育上大规模投资，然而民主和自由不是以上方面可以比拟的。当然，也不在于他们不是白人。
所以，只要人种仍然存在下去，中国就会一直落后美国。
美国！美国！
这才是真相啊！！不过听起来好像反讽啊
Though everyone looks down upon them today, the Chinese is a very smart race. They can come up with products that could be ultimately surprise everyone.
All you need is very smart people and money, and they have got both.
So laugh as you like and one day you will laugh no more.
虽然大家今天看不起中国人，不过他们是非常聪明的种族，可以生产出最终让每个人吃惊的产品。
你所需要的一切就是聪明的人和钱。中国人两个都有。
所以你就尽情取笑吧，总有一天你再也笑不出来。
只有一個比較那個啥的……希望全部外國人永遠認為我們中國西部在吃草，東部在刷漆……
All you need is very smart people and money, and they have got both.
So laugh as you like and one day you will laugh no more.
虽然大家今天看不起中国人，不过他们是非常聪明的种族，可以生产出最终让每个人吃惊的产品。
你所需要的一切就是聪明的人和钱。中国人两个都有。
所以你就尽情取笑吧，总有一天你再也笑不出来。
只有一個比較那個啥的……希望全部外國人永遠認為我們中國西部在吃草，東部在刷漆……
看着这些评论，我觉得TG统一世界都没啥问题了
人言可畏，嘴炮无敌啊，f22是不是让这些人喷的缺氧了，想我中华哪天真的独步天下，一定要设个嘴炮奖
兔子是在低着头走上坡路，MD是抬着头走下坡路
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
兔子还是发展中国家嘛~
味道那叫一个酸啊。
无所谓了
现在美帝的确有嘲笑中国的资本
这点比三哥强，三哥是自己没有的东西都能鄙视中国，这个就比较奇葩了
现在美帝的确有嘲笑中国的资本
这点比三哥强，三哥是自己没有的东西都能鄙视中国，这个就比较奇葩了
paopaoyu600 发表于 2012-11-1 17:32
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
好湿好湿，这是广大人民群众的心声！
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
好湿好湿，这是广大人民群众的心声！zhaotao8301 发表于 2012-11-1 17:32
兔子是在低着头走上坡路，MD是抬着头走下坡路
这个比较形象
兔子是在低着头走上坡路，MD是抬着头走下坡路
这个比较形象
网民屌丝都差不多
发动机真是心病
paopaoyu600 发表于 2012-11-1 17:32
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
好湿！
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
好湿！
看看人家美国人多么客观，我们这点成绩根本算不了什么。
看到了美国论坛上也既有美分又有五毛
zhaotao8301 发表于 2012-11-1 17:32
兔子是在低着头走上坡路，MD是抬着头走下坡路
这个比喻太形象了
兔子是在低着头走上坡路，MD是抬着头走下坡路
这个比喻太形象了
崛起的道路就是这样的，要耐的住寂寞、遭受白眼、潮讽。
The Chinese can't even figure out how to make a jet engine that doesn't grenade after five hours...Their stealth attempts are basic propaganda at best, death traps for their poor pilots at worse. Let me know when they stop buying engines from Vladimir.
中国人连飞机发动机都捣鼓不出来，他们开发的隐形战机最多是用于宣传的基本型，是可怜飞行员的死亡陷阱。我倒想看看他们什么时候不再向弗拉基米尔·普京购买发动机。
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全球各国的毛粉工作做的很成功，最成功的代表就是平可夫。。。
中国人连飞机发动机都捣鼓不出来，他们开发的隐形战机最多是用于宣传的基本型，是可怜飞行员的死亡陷阱。我倒想看看他们什么时候不再向弗拉基米尔·普京购买发动机。
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全球各国的毛粉工作做的很成功，最成功的代表就是平可夫。。。
MP论坛（Military Photo）上面，有个人的评论，颇为中肯
I would rather say, we do not know where they stand anymore. 10 years ago it was easy to make yourself a picture of military China. Outdated equipment, huge army, no threat. Today, only the know-it-alls on this board (usually identified by throwing around "chibot" for lack of discussion ideas) can say something on China. It's transitioning from this old, huge land army to a modern force to reckon with. Where they stand now? Who knows...
换了我，我会说我们现在已经不知道他们的情况了。十年前，从军事角度描述中国很容易。过时的装备，庞大的军队，木有威胁。今天，在论坛里面只有那些自诩什么都懂的人（他们的标志通常是在自己没话说的时候叫别人共匪）才敢确定的说中国如何如何。中国正在从一直古旧而庞大的陆军向现代化军队转变。他们现在的情况如何了？谁知道啊。。。。。。
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?219504-China’s-New-J-31-Stealth-Fighter-Takes-Off-on-Maiden-Flight&p=6431319&viewfull=1#post6431319
I would rather say, we do not know where they stand anymore. 10 years ago it was easy to make yourself a picture of military China. Outdated equipment, huge army, no threat. Today, only the know-it-alls on this board (usually identified by throwing around "chibot" for lack of discussion ideas) can say something on China. It's transitioning from this old, huge land army to a modern force to reckon with. Where they stand now? Who knows...
换了我，我会说我们现在已经不知道他们的情况了。十年前，从军事角度描述中国很容易。过时的装备，庞大的军队，木有威胁。今天，在论坛里面只有那些自诩什么都懂的人（他们的标志通常是在自己没话说的时候叫别人共匪）才敢确定的说中国如何如何。中国正在从一直古旧而庞大的陆军向现代化军队转变。他们现在的情况如何了？谁知道啊。。。。。。
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?219504-China’s-New-J-31-Stealth-Fighter-Takes-Off-on-Maiden-Flight&p=6431319&viewfull=1#post6431319
国外关于中国的评论：中国制造的产品廉价不可靠、是复制山寨的、是通过间谍黑客偷来的、人民整天像牛马一样工作赚取微不足道的报酬、没有民主……
未来的十年是决定性的十年，这群傲慢自大狭隘愚蠢的人对兔子是有百利而无一害
paopaoyu600 发表于 2012-11-1 17:32
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
兄弟!淫才呀。。。淫的一手好湿呀。哈哈。。。希望再来几个这样广大群众喜闻乐见的好湿。。。
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
兄弟!淫才呀。。。淫的一手好湿呀。哈哈。。。希望再来几个这样广大群众喜闻乐见的好湿。。。
望君在笑三十载，一觉睡到梦不在，若从梦中惊坐起，定是汉军称王来。
好湿，CDER屎淫多啊
好湿，CDER屎淫多啊
怎么所有人都知道中国发动机不行
干我们的管他们说什么 
希望美国人继续保持下去 这样就能更快的把美国人从亚太驱逐出去了
三锅们受的刺激真的是太大了。。。。
星空大师 发表于 2012-11-1 17:39
无所谓了
现在美帝的确有嘲笑中国的资本
这点比三哥强，三哥是自己没有的东西都能鄙视中国，这个就比较奇 ...
把三哥换成台巴子比较合适
无所谓了
现在美帝的确有嘲笑中国的资本
这点比三哥强，三哥是自己没有的东西都能鄙视中国，这个就比较奇 ...
把三哥换成台巴子比较合适
在同一个帖子的十楼，有人提到了J31涂装的问题。
我的理解是，这些年，沈飞不是造八爷，就是仿造11爷，还出了不少问题，这次提振自己形象的机会，沈飞肯定不会错过。但是，我没有MP的账号，注册也注册不了，哪位兄弟有，有兴致的话，帮我发上去吧。回复，以及10楼链接在下面。
My take on this is that in the past ten years or so, Shengyang Aircraft Corporation(SAC) has been viewed by many local military fans as inefficient and, to a certain point, useless, in that while Chengdu Aircraft Corporation(CAC) conviniently rolled out FC1, J10 and J20, SAC was producing J8 and J11. It's quite apperent to see SAC would not give a miss to such a good chance with which they can show to the the general public they don't just produce vintage fighters and struggle with copying less vintage Russian fighters. When you know it's certain military fans would take shots of your bird's maden flight and these photos would be shown to the public, in a well not very publuc fashion, what would you do? I, for one, would definitely dress it up.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?219504-China’s-New-J-31-Stealth-Fighter-Takes-Off-on-Maiden-Flight&p=6430166&viewfull=1#post6430166
我的理解是，这些年，沈飞不是造八爷，就是仿造11爷，还出了不少问题，这次提振自己形象的机会，沈飞肯定不会错过。但是，我没有MP的账号，注册也注册不了，哪位兄弟有，有兴致的话，帮我发上去吧。回复，以及10楼链接在下面。
My take on this is that in the past ten years or so, Shengyang Aircraft Corporation(SAC) has been viewed by many local military fans as inefficient and, to a certain point, useless, in that while Chengdu Aircraft Corporation(CAC) conviniently rolled out FC1, J10 and J20, SAC was producing J8 and J11. It's quite apperent to see SAC would not give a miss to such a good chance with which they can show to the the general public they don't just produce vintage fighters and struggle with copying less vintage Russian fighters. When you know it's certain military fans would take shots of your bird's maden flight and these photos would be shown to the public, in a well not very publuc fashion, what would you do? I, for one, would definitely dress it up.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?219504-China’s-New-J-31-Stealth-Fighter-Takes-Off-on-Maiden-Flight&p=6430166&viewfull=1#post6430166
怎么所有人都知道中国发动机不行
因为这个世界w玩发动机的就那几个
因为这个世界w玩发动机的就那几个
呼噜zZ 发表于 2012-11-1 18:07
怎么所有人都知道中国发动机不行
张局和平副局的功劳
怎么所有人都知道中国发动机不行
张局和平副局的功劳
韬光养晦的公鸡啊！是的，白皮们说的没错，中国人当乃们是太阳，没有乃们，俺们心中就彻底失去光明鸟。你们嗨吧，嗨吧，再嗨50年，俺们有奖的。
virginmary 发表于 2012-11-1 17:27
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供 ...
是噢，我也好乐见这种评论噢，要是反讽就不太喜欢了！呵呵！要是发自肺腑的，这哥们被洗脑不轻啊！呵呵
同意，中国落后我们60年。只要没有自由和民主，他们就会永远落后。
中国是世界最大的制造国，有一个可供 ...
是噢，我也好乐见这种评论噢，要是反讽就不太喜欢了！呵呵！要是发自肺腑的，这哥们被洗脑不轻啊！呵呵