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原网址ww啊w.milchina.com/jdwq/2012-06-26/4298_15.html

Is that another UFO being trucked cross country or China’s newest stealth fighter? Nope, it’s just a lengthened version of a Hongdu L-15 jet trainer — which is said to be developed with assistance from from the Russian Yak-130 team — stopping for a Big Gulp at a rest stop on the highway from Beijing to Shenyang, China.

　　這是又一個卡車裝叩腢FO，還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是，這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說，L-15是在俄羅斯雅克-130開發組的協助下研發的——停在北京至瀋陽高速公路的一個休息站以補充燃料而已。

　　Teh Internets have been abuzz this morning with rumors that this is China’s newest fighter. Nope.

Nice Audi.

今天早上，網絡紛紛傳言這是中國最新的戰鬥機。不是的。

　　漂亮的奧迪。(譯者：指圖中的那輛奧迪)

　　Ps. Some are suggesting that this is really is Shenyang’s F-60 stealth fighter design. While there are similarities, I’m not convinced. The aircraft size, cockpit, leading-edge extensions and wing designs resemble an L-15 too strongly for me to say this an new jet.

　　Ps：有人說這真的和瀋陽F-60隱形戰機設計相同。儘管兩者有相似之處，但我還是不相信。對於我來說，這架戰機無論是大小、駕駛倉、進氣道折線，還是機翼設計都太像L-15了，所以，我不能說這是一架新戰鬥機。

Mastro  20 hours ago -2(-2是評分)

　　I hear Audis are real popular in China ever since some "prince" ran over someone in his BMW and did the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM ?" bit.

　　2 replies  active 19 hours ago

　　我聽說自從某些“王子”(譯者注：外國沒有X二代一說麼……)用寶馬軋死人，然後說“你知道我是誰嗎?”之後，奧迪就在中國十分流行了。

　cs4  

19 hours ago+4

　　Have you heard about US commerce secretary's involvement in a car crash?

　　你聽說過美國的商務部長牽扯進交通事故中嗎?

　　aerodog79  19 hours ago -1

　　Gee, was he driving an Audi, too? Sounds like bad Ju-Ju.

　　他是不是也開奧迪?聽起來像壞 Ju-Ju(譯者：求高人翻譯)

Why "poo poo" a new variant? Too lazy to engage in the speculation?

　　為什麼雙“拉”出一個變種機?懶得去推測。

　　Juuso  19 hours ago 0

　　That plane has a "stinger" between engines, L-15 does not have such thing. Also, plane is wider than L-15.

這架飛機在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”，L-15上是沒這個的。而且，這架飛機比L-15更寬。

　　Rohan  16 hours ago 0

　　I am sure this is something mischivi about Chinese.....are they again making toys!!!

　　我確信這是中國人的惡作劇……他們是不是又在造玩具!!!

　　cozine  16 hours ago 0

　　L-15 has a large LEX which hides the inlet below. It is hard to see from this angle but looks to me like a caret inlet. Also looks like a single-seater to me.

2 replies  active 15 hours ago

　　L-15在進氣口處下方隱藏著一個巨大的機翼前緣延伸板。從這個角度很難看到，但是我看這架飛機好像是嘉莱特進氣道。而且，我看這是單座機。

　　19E10 69p  16 hours ago 0

　　Cozine, While it doesn't appear to be a tandem configuration, perhaps it's a side by side. The front part of the jet appears to be almost as wide as the back (Su Flanker Platypus ...).

　　樓主，儘管這架飛機不像串座型，但它可能是並座型。前後幾乎一樣寬(蘇-海側衛、鴨嘴獸……)
Ben  15 hours ago 0

　　Agreed. Also, the nose of the aircraft in the link doesn't taper down nearly as much as the standard L-15.

　　I'm starting to think this is something new. Nothing to really worry about, but something new nonetheless.

　　同意。而且，這架飛機的機鼻的斜度和標準的L-15也不太像。

　　我開始覺得這是新戰機了。沒什麼真正可擔心的，但不管怎麼說，這確實是某種新戰機。

　　Tribulationtime  

15 hours ago -4

　　Looks like L-15. I agree what seems be a single-seater, but i think this plane is disable by accident, shuch a bird crash so thats, broken canopy, explains the background house in the middle. No make sense, if she can fly; dismount the vertical plane and do not with the wings. I think so.

　　1 reply  active 15 hours ago

　　看起來像L-15。我同意它似乎是單座的，但是我認為這架飛機是因事故而報廢，比如說被鳥撞破了機艙著蓋，這解釋了背後那房子中間位置為什麼會成那樣。如果她能飛，這就沒意義了;她可以把機翼收起來。我是這樣認為的。

　　Juuso
15 hours ago +1

　　There is few reasons why it can't be L-15.

　　- It has a "stinger" (probably electronics) between engines.

　　- Engines are too far apart for it to be L-15.

　　- Fuselage is too wide.

　　- Radome is not round. (third pic)

　　為什麼這不可能是L-15?有以下幾條原因。

-它在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”(可能是電子設備)。

　　-發動機和L-15相差太大了。

　　-機身太寬。

　　-雷達罩不是圓的。(第三張圖)

　　Lance  15 hours ago 0

　　Forget the plane, I like the cool tarp over the plane.

　　2 replies  active 8 hours ago

忘了這飛機，我喜歡它上面cool的油布。

　　Zip  8 hours ago +1

　　Have you ever kissed a girl, Lance?

　　樓主，你親過女孩嗎?

　　Zip  8 hours ago +1

　　Or do you not shoot straight?

或者說你是射不直嗎?

　　Ben  14 hours ago +1

　　Could it be the Shenyang F-60? It matches the mockup shown here:

　　 ... aec0a549f5890ae87f8

　　1 reply  active 13 hours ago

　　這會是沈飛的F-60嗎?它和航展上的模型很像： ...

　　Michael  13 hours ago -2

　　I hope it is.
我希望它是F-60.

　　19E10 69p  13 hours ago 0

　　Ben, Very good possibility. The wings are of a similar shape and the apparent width of the front could be caused by the way the netting transits from the intake to the nose. The "Norinco Raptor" !

　　1 reply  active 13 hours ago

　　樓上上，很可能是。機翼形狀相似，從機頭的進氣道到機鼻的寬度都很像。這是“北方工業集團的猛禽”!
Ben  13 hours ago 0

　　Exactly what I was thinking. Not only are the design's eerily similar but the timing of this airframe's appearance coincides with when you might see a full-scale prototype (the mockup of the F-60 was revealed back in September).

　　和我想的完全一樣。不僅設計很像，而且其機身現身的時機也符合一個原型機出現所需的時間(F-60的模型是去年9月份公佈的)

　　譯者：很多名詞不熟悉，看來得補補戰鬥機知識了。



原网址ww啊w.milchina.com/jdwq/2012-06-26/4298_15.html

Is that another UFO being trucked cross country or China’s newest stealth fighter? Nope, it’s just a lengthened version of a Hongdu L-15 jet trainer — which is said to be developed with assistance from from the Russian Yak-130 team — stopping for a Big Gulp at a rest stop on the highway from Beijing to Shenyang, China.

　　這是又一個卡車裝叩腢FO，還是中國最新的隱形戰鬥機?都不是，這只是一架加長版的洪都L-15教練機——據說，L-15是在俄羅斯雅克-130開發組的協助下研發的——停在北京至瀋陽高速公路的一個休息站以補充燃料而已。

　　Teh Internets have been abuzz this morning with rumors that this is China’s newest fighter. Nope.

Nice Audi.

今天早上，網絡紛紛傳言這是中國最新的戰鬥機。不是的。

　　漂亮的奧迪。(譯者：指圖中的那輛奧迪)

　　Ps. Some are suggesting that this is really is Shenyang’s F-60 stealth fighter design. While there are similarities, I’m not convinced. The aircraft size, cockpit, leading-edge extensions and wing designs resemble an L-15 too strongly for me to say this an new jet.

　　Ps：有人說這真的和瀋陽F-60隱形戰機設計相同。儘管兩者有相似之處，但我還是不相信。對於我來說，這架戰機無論是大小、駕駛倉、進氣道折線，還是機翼設計都太像L-15了，所以，我不能說這是一架新戰鬥機。

Mastro  20 hours ago -2(-2是評分)

　　I hear Audis are real popular in China ever since some "prince" ran over someone in his BMW and did the "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM ?" bit.

　　2 replies  active 19 hours ago

　　我聽說自從某些“王子”(譯者注：外國沒有X二代一說麼……)用寶馬軋死人，然後說“你知道我是誰嗎?”之後，奧迪就在中國十分流行了。

　cs4  

19 hours ago+4

　　Have you heard about US commerce secretary's involvement in a car crash?

　　你聽說過美國的商務部長牽扯進交通事故中嗎?

　　aerodog79  19 hours ago -1

　　Gee, was he driving an Audi, too? Sounds like bad Ju-Ju.

　　他是不是也開奧迪?聽起來像壞 Ju-Ju(譯者：求高人翻譯)

Why "poo poo" a new variant? Too lazy to engage in the speculation?

　　為什麼雙“拉”出一個變種機?懶得去推測。

　　Juuso  19 hours ago 0

　　That plane has a "stinger" between engines, L-15 does not have such thing. Also, plane is wider than L-15.

這架飛機在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”，L-15上是沒這個的。而且，這架飛機比L-15更寬。

　　Rohan  16 hours ago 0

　　I am sure this is something mischivi about Chinese.....are they again making toys!!!

　　我確信這是中國人的惡作劇……他們是不是又在造玩具!!!

　　cozine  16 hours ago 0

　　L-15 has a large LEX which hides the inlet below. It is hard to see from this angle but looks to me like a caret inlet. Also looks like a single-seater to me.

2 replies  active 15 hours ago

　　L-15在進氣口處下方隱藏著一個巨大的機翼前緣延伸板。從這個角度很難看到，但是我看這架飛機好像是嘉莱特進氣道。而且，我看這是單座機。

　　19E10 69p  16 hours ago 0

　　Cozine, While it doesn't appear to be a tandem configuration, perhaps it's a side by side. The front part of the jet appears to be almost as wide as the back (Su Flanker Platypus ...).

　　樓主，儘管這架飛機不像串座型，但它可能是並座型。前後幾乎一樣寬(蘇-海側衛、鴨嘴獸……)
Ben  15 hours ago 0

　　Agreed. Also, the nose of the aircraft in the link doesn't taper down nearly as much as the standard L-15.

　　I'm starting to think this is something new. Nothing to really worry about, but something new nonetheless.

　　同意。而且，這架飛機的機鼻的斜度和標準的L-15也不太像。

　　我開始覺得這是新戰機了。沒什麼真正可擔心的，但不管怎麼說，這確實是某種新戰機。

　　Tribulationtime  

15 hours ago -4

　　Looks like L-15. I agree what seems be a single-seater, but i think this plane is disable by accident, shuch a bird crash so thats, broken canopy, explains the background house in the middle. No make sense, if she can fly; dismount the vertical plane and do not with the wings. I think so.

　　1 reply  active 15 hours ago

　　看起來像L-15。我同意它似乎是單座的，但是我認為這架飛機是因事故而報廢，比如說被鳥撞破了機艙著蓋，這解釋了背後那房子中間位置為什麼會成那樣。如果她能飛，這就沒意義了;她可以把機翼收起來。我是這樣認為的。

　　Juuso
15 hours ago +1

　　There is few reasons why it can't be L-15.

　　- It has a "stinger" (probably electronics) between engines.

　　- Engines are too far apart for it to be L-15.

　　- Fuselage is too wide.

　　- Radome is not round. (third pic)

　　為什麼這不可能是L-15?有以下幾條原因。

-它在雙發尾部中間有一個“尾椎”(可能是電子設備)。

　　-發動機和L-15相差太大了。

　　-機身太寬。

　　-雷達罩不是圓的。(第三張圖)

　　Lance  15 hours ago 0

　　Forget the plane, I like the cool tarp over the plane.

　　2 replies  active 8 hours ago

忘了這飛機，我喜歡它上面cool的油布。

　　Zip  8 hours ago +1

　　Have you ever kissed a girl, Lance?

　　樓主，你親過女孩嗎?

　　Zip  8 hours ago +1

　　Or do you not shoot straight?

或者說你是射不直嗎?

　　Ben  14 hours ago +1

　　Could it be the Shenyang F-60? It matches the mockup shown here:

　　 ... aec0a549f5890ae87f8

　　1 reply  active 13 hours ago

　　這會是沈飛的F-60嗎?它和航展上的模型很像： ...

　　Michael  13 hours ago -2

　　I hope it is.
我希望它是F-60.

　　19E10 69p  13 hours ago 0

　　Ben, Very good possibility. The wings are of a similar shape and the apparent width of the front could be caused by the way the netting transits from the intake to the nose. The "Norinco Raptor" !

　　1 reply  active 13 hours ago

　　樓上上，很可能是。機翼形狀相似，從機頭的進氣道到機鼻的寬度都很像。這是“北方工業集團的猛禽”!
Ben  13 hours ago 0

　　Exactly what I was thinking. Not only are the design's eerily similar but the timing of this airframe's appearance coincides with when you might see a full-scale prototype (the mockup of the F-60 was revealed back in September).

　　和我想的完全一樣。不僅設計很像，而且其機身現身的時機也符合一個原型機出現所需的時間(F-60的模型是去年9月份公佈的)

　　譯者：很多名詞不熟悉，看來得補補戰鬥機知識了。