超级军网截止目前，PAK-FA--117 发动机测试以及2010年设计定型推 ...
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PAK-FA 的第一阶段发动机测试可谓是多管齐下：
A，从2009年PAK-FA首飞前一直至今一直在土星的Lytkarinsky 机械厂进行台架和耐久性试验。
B. 从2009年12月23号后，在格罗莫夫试飞院的T-50KNS上进行和航电系统的联调地面试验
C. 在PAK-FA 的一号原型机上在2010年秋季结束时就完成了40多次飞行试验
D. 在PAK-FA 的2号机上已经完成了2次飞行试验
E. 在27LL 飞行试验平台上已经完成了32次飞行试验。
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2011年的耐久性试验估计告一段落（设计定型估计在2010年末前），开始国家试验了吧
试飞强度加倍累加，
3架T-50（也许加上T-50-4）+2架27LL。同时进行飞行试验。
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PAK-FA 的第一阶段发动机测试可谓是多管齐下：
A，从2009年PAK-FA首飞前一直至今一直在土星的Lytkarinsky 机械厂进行台架和耐久性试验。
B. 从2009年12月23号后，在格罗莫夫试飞院的T-50KNS上进行和航电系统的联调地面试验
C. 在PAK-FA 的一号原型机上在2010年秋季结束时就完成了40多次飞行试验
D. 在PAK-FA 的2号机上已经完成了2次飞行试验
E. 在27LL 飞行试验平台上已经完成了32次飞行试验。
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2011年的耐久性试验估计告一段落（设计定型估计在2010年末前），开始国家试验了吧
试飞强度加倍累加，
3架T-50（也许加上T-50-4）+2架27LL。同时进行飞行试验。
很关心117的小白向楼主致意~！[:a15:]
楼主您能否发一点117的科普？谢谢！
楼主您能否发一点117的科普？谢谢！
尤瑞纳斯 发表于 2011-3-5 22:47 
117的FADEC。 2007年完成。 符合分布式航电的特征。 第6楼。
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1040021-1-1.html
117的FADEC。 2007年完成。 符合分布式航电的特征。 第6楼。
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1040021-1-1.html
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-3-5 22:49
您的这个帖子拜读过。谢谢~！:handshake[:a15:]
您的这个帖子拜读过。谢谢~！:handshake[:a15:]
尤瑞纳斯 发表于 2011-3-5 22:47
简单来说就是AL-41F 技术的全31F 改造。
简单来说就是AL-41F 技术的全31F 改造。
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-3-5 23:06
这个偶知道的，谢谢您~！[:a14:]
这个偶知道的，谢谢您~！[:a14:]
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xzpw2 发表于 2011-3-6 10:38
传说中的灌水
传说中的灌水
52飞了两次？ 什么时候有涂漆的图？
GE大神 发表于 2011-3-6 11:55
他是灌水健将
他是灌水健将
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-3-6 12:43
貌似经常见到啊。。。。52的涂装怎样？很期待会不会比51还漂亮
貌似经常见到啊。。。。52的涂装怎样？很期待会不会比51还漂亮
GE大神 发表于 2011-3-6 12:44
估计涂装差不多。
估计涂装差不多。
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{:3_76:}加油
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-3-6 17:03
上个902的多好
上个902的多好
xzpw2 发表于 2011-3-6 17:04
刚刚在说。。。 又见到了
刚刚在说。。。 又见到了
PAK-FA 的第一阶段发动机测试可谓是多管齐下：
A，从2009年PAK-FA首飞前一直至今一直在土星的Lytkarinsky 机械厂进行台架和耐久性试验。
B. 从2009年12月23号后，在格罗莫夫试飞院的T-50KNS上进行和航电系统的联调地面试验
C. 在PAK-FA 的一号原型机上在2010年秋季结束时就完成了40多次飞行试验
D. 在PAK-FA 的2号机上已经完成了2次飞行试验
E. 在27LL 飞行试验平台上已经完成了32次飞行试验。
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2011年的耐久性试验估计告一段落（设计定型），开始国家试验了吧
试飞强度加倍累加，
3架T-50（也许加上T-50-4）+2架27LL。同时进行飞行试验。
A，从2009年PAK-FA首飞前一直至今一直在土星的Lytkarinsky 机械厂进行台架和耐久性试验。
B. 从2009年12月23号后，在格罗莫夫试飞院的T-50KNS上进行和航电系统的联调地面试验
C. 在PAK-FA 的一号原型机上在2010年秋季结束时就完成了40多次飞行试验
D. 在PAK-FA 的2号机上已经完成了2次飞行试验
E. 在27LL 飞行试验平台上已经完成了32次飞行试验。
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2011年的耐久性试验估计告一段落（设计定型），开始国家试验了吧
试飞强度加倍累加，
3架T-50（也许加上T-50-4）+2架27LL。同时进行飞行试验。
:sleepy:
xzpw2 有性格，我喜欢。
xzpw2 不畏强暴、冒着版主们的炮火、前进进。。。。
ymv5 发表于 2011-3-9 21:30
我知道这哥们搞了很多图片精华贴子
我知道这哥们搞了很多图片精华贴子
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-3-5 22:45
乌发2009年末工作总结：
2009年末，总共完成117的零部件制造18台。
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乌发2009年末工作总结：
2009年末，总共完成117的零部件制造18台。
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看见LS的图片的数字18还以为推力要达到18吨，吓我一跳
相对于2008年定型的117C， 按照117C的进度推理和35S的首飞进度。
第一架35C用的不是定型后的发动机，第二架35C使用的是定型后的117C。
同理可推测，117的定型估计是在2010年末，既是完成设计定型的117上第二架PAK-FA。
第一架PAK-FA用的不是定型后的发动机， 而第二架PAK-FA 极大可能用的是定型的117发动机。
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NPO” Saturn completed the endurance tests for Experimental engine 117S Engine on 30th January, 2008. As per NPO “Saturn” project engineer Yevgeny Marchukova, “from engines point of view, there are no obstacles whatever for the beginning of the flight tests of the first Su-35. All obligations before the customer are executed “.
For guaranteeing the service life of 100 hours, the engine bench tests was composed of 200 hours (with the fulfillment of 100 cycles of tests, 6000 cycles of the turning of rotary nozzle), including 16 hours of hot tests with the imitation of high-speed regimes.
The 117S engine is a major upgrade of the AL-31F and has a thrust of 14.5 tonnes, which exceeds the figures of the basic engine by 2 tonnes. It mounts the fan with a 3 % larger diameter (932 mm over 905 mm), advanced high- and low-pressure turbines and all-new digital control system. A provision has been made for using the thrust vector control nozzle similar to that of the AL-31FP. The upgrade has resulted in thrust hiking by 16 % to 14,500 kgf (kN) in afterburner mode and totaling 8,800 kg in the maximal non-after burning mode. Compared to the current AL-31F, the new engine’s service life will increase by 2–2.7 times, with the time between overhauls increasing from 500 hours to 1,000 hours, time before first overhaul standing at 1,500 hours and assigned life spiking from 1,500 hours to 4,000 hours.
There are five engines in the testing batch. 117S-01 is for special tests in assuring first flight; 117S-02 is for gas dynamic stability and extended tests for assuring first flight; 117S-03 was sent to the flight laboratory where strain gauge measurements of the low pressure chamber under takeoff conditions were recorded; 117S-04 and 117S-05 have been delivered to KnAAPO for the Su-35 flight.
（参加测试的有5台，其中3台测试保证具备首飞条件，另外2台用于首飞， 该5台发动机为非正式定型发动机）
Currently, “NPO” Saturn” and ” UMPO ” (Ufa Engine Production Association) have started to manufacture the final eight engine’s, which will be used to refine the product. Of those, two will be the engine test resource, one – will be for thermobaric chamber in CIAM, the three engine will be delivered at the second aircraft Su-35, one for special tests and one for official tests.
(5台试验型发动机之后开始制造的8台发动机，为定型发动机， 其中3台用于第二架35S，2台用于定寿，1台高空台测试，2台用于特殊试验和国家试验）
Tests of the first engine of final layout it is planned during February 2008 and delivery of the engines for the second airplane are planned for March – April 2008.
（测试第一个定型的117C 是在2008年2月份，交付给第二架35C的定型后的发动机是2008年3月至4月）
第一架35C用的不是定型后的发动机，第二架35C使用的是定型后的117C。
同理可推测，117的定型估计是在2010年末，既是完成设计定型的117上第二架PAK-FA。
第一架PAK-FA用的不是定型后的发动机， 而第二架PAK-FA 极大可能用的是定型的117发动机。
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NPO” Saturn completed the endurance tests for Experimental engine 117S Engine on 30th January, 2008. As per NPO “Saturn” project engineer Yevgeny Marchukova, “from engines point of view, there are no obstacles whatever for the beginning of the flight tests of the first Su-35. All obligations before the customer are executed “.
For guaranteeing the service life of 100 hours, the engine bench tests was composed of 200 hours (with the fulfillment of 100 cycles of tests, 6000 cycles of the turning of rotary nozzle), including 16 hours of hot tests with the imitation of high-speed regimes.
The 117S engine is a major upgrade of the AL-31F and has a thrust of 14.5 tonnes, which exceeds the figures of the basic engine by 2 tonnes. It mounts the fan with a 3 % larger diameter (932 mm over 905 mm), advanced high- and low-pressure turbines and all-new digital control system. A provision has been made for using the thrust vector control nozzle similar to that of the AL-31FP. The upgrade has resulted in thrust hiking by 16 % to 14,500 kgf (kN) in afterburner mode and totaling 8,800 kg in the maximal non-after burning mode. Compared to the current AL-31F, the new engine’s service life will increase by 2–2.7 times, with the time between overhauls increasing from 500 hours to 1,000 hours, time before first overhaul standing at 1,500 hours and assigned life spiking from 1,500 hours to 4,000 hours.
There are five engines in the testing batch. 117S-01 is for special tests in assuring first flight; 117S-02 is for gas dynamic stability and extended tests for assuring first flight; 117S-03 was sent to the flight laboratory where strain gauge measurements of the low pressure chamber under takeoff conditions were recorded; 117S-04 and 117S-05 have been delivered to KnAAPO for the Su-35 flight.
（参加测试的有5台，其中3台测试保证具备首飞条件，另外2台用于首飞， 该5台发动机为非正式定型发动机）
Currently, “NPO” Saturn” and ” UMPO ” (Ufa Engine Production Association) have started to manufacture the final eight engine’s, which will be used to refine the product. Of those, two will be the engine test resource, one – will be for thermobaric chamber in CIAM, the three engine will be delivered at the second aircraft Su-35, one for special tests and one for official tests.
(5台试验型发动机之后开始制造的8台发动机，为定型发动机， 其中3台用于第二架35S，2台用于定寿，1台高空台测试，2台用于特殊试验和国家试验）
Tests of the first engine of final layout it is planned during February 2008 and delivery of the engines for the second airplane are planned for March – April 2008.
（测试第一个定型的117C 是在2008年2月份，交付给第二架35C的定型后的发动机是2008年3月至4月）
117正在试验中，设计定型估计还得过三年，在15年左右实现批产
14500的杯具推力
27系列还差不多，50就不够了
27系列还差不多，50就不够了SSJ100 发表于 2011-3-12 11:59
瞎扯淡。 说的倒挺坚定，啥子逻辑都没有。
瞎扯淡。 说的倒挺坚定，啥子逻辑都没有。
涡轮 发表于 2011-3-12 12:08
扯淡。 搞清楚了再说。
扯淡。 搞清楚了再说。
:D废东西 还是9级高压 在怎么改也是三代动力
红色的闪电 发表于 2011-3-12 16:18
本菜手里那些土星设计局合UMPO的资料没有显示117的具体结构事啥子？
你有？ 拿出来分享一下？[:a9:]
本菜手里那些土星设计局合UMPO的资料没有显示117的具体结构事啥子？
你有？ 拿出来分享一下？[:a9:]
红色的闪电 发表于 2011-3-12 16:18
张嘴就胡诌是愤青们的专利。
张嘴就胡诌是愤青们的专利。
JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2011-3-12 16:57
核心机的结构图有没有啊
核心机的结构图有没有啊
http://www.umpo.ru/News118_451.aspx
乌发厂自称造了80%的零部件
乌发厂自称造了80%的零部件
毛五的五代发动机快出来
雨后无彩虹 发表于 2011-3-12 21:24
就怕出来让人失望{:jian:}
就怕出来让人失望{:jian:}
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09.03.2011
Saturn Engine for the Flight of the Second Prototype of the Fifth-Generation Fighter Jet
The second prototype of the prospective Russian fifth generation fighter outfitted with the engine by Saturn Research and Production Association Open Joint-Stock Company made its first flight on March 03, 2011. The flight took place at the Aircraft Manufacturing Association’s runway in Komsomolsk-on-Amur and was a success. The engines passed the test. Sergey Bogdan, merited test pilot of Russia, was the pilot, who in early 2010 flew the first T-50 prototype.
Ilya Fedorov, Managing Director at Saturn OJSC, Deputy General Director at ODK Managing Company: “The flight of the second aircraft was successful in general: no complaints about the engine or avionics. The plane was ready for the flight at the agreed time and the test pilot was extremely pleased with that. We wish this plane many more successful tests and eventual serial production."
Yevgeny Marchukov, Lulka R&D Center chief designer and branch manager (Saturn Research and Production Association OJSC): “The engines used in the prototypes of prospective fifth-generation fighter are much different from the 117S engines designed for Su-35 with regard to its parameters and avionics. T-50 aircraft equipped with engines by Saturn is fully consistent with the aircraft specifications and will be fielded to the Russian Air Forces using the same engine. The program for building a new fighter jet is advancing. Only two countries, the United States and Russia, are capable of making such aircraft. This is indeed a major achievement.”
As you may recall, a set of bench and flight engine testing allowed T-50-1 to make its maiden flight on January 29, 2010.
Currently, they conduct special bench and endurance tests of the engine at Lytkarino Machine-Building Plant (Saturn branch), ground work together with the aircraft systems at Sukhoi Design Bureau in Gromov Flight Test Institute at the T-50-KNS facility, flight tests are going on at T-50-1 (over 40 flights), T-50-2 (2 flights) and a Su-27-mounted flying laboratory (32 flights).
Saturn Engine for the Flight of the Second Prototype of the Fifth-Generation Fighter Jet
The second prototype of the prospective Russian fifth generation fighter outfitted with the engine by Saturn Research and Production Association Open Joint-Stock Company made its first flight on March 03, 2011. The flight took place at the Aircraft Manufacturing Association’s runway in Komsomolsk-on-Amur and was a success. The engines passed the test. Sergey Bogdan, merited test pilot of Russia, was the pilot, who in early 2010 flew the first T-50 prototype.
Ilya Fedorov, Managing Director at Saturn OJSC, Deputy General Director at ODK Managing Company: “The flight of the second aircraft was successful in general: no complaints about the engine or avionics. The plane was ready for the flight at the agreed time and the test pilot was extremely pleased with that. We wish this plane many more successful tests and eventual serial production."
Yevgeny Marchukov, Lulka R&D Center chief designer and branch manager (Saturn Research and Production Association OJSC): “The engines used in the prototypes of prospective fifth-generation fighter are much different from the 117S engines designed for Su-35 with regard to its parameters and avionics. T-50 aircraft equipped with engines by Saturn is fully consistent with the aircraft specifications and will be fielded to the Russian Air Forces using the same engine. The program for building a new fighter jet is advancing. Only two countries, the United States and Russia, are capable of making such aircraft. This is indeed a major achievement.”
As you may recall, a set of bench and flight engine testing allowed T-50-1 to make its maiden flight on January 29, 2010.
Currently, they conduct special bench and endurance tests of the engine at Lytkarino Machine-Building Plant (Saturn branch), ground work together with the aircraft systems at Sukhoi Design Bureau in Gromov Flight Test Institute at the T-50-KNS facility, flight tests are going on at T-50-1 (over 40 flights), T-50-2 (2 flights) and a Su-27-mounted flying laboratory (32 flights).
General Designer of the A. M. Lyulka Scientific-Technical Center (a Moscow subsidiary of NPO Saturn) Yevgeniy Marchukov claims the construction of an engine for the fifth generation fighter is going successfully, and it will go into serial production.
The second experimental T-50 reportedly took off with this engine on 3 March.
Marchukov said:
“The engines in the experimental prototypes of the future Russian fifth generation fighter are seriously distinct from the 117S engines intended for Su-35 aircraft, both in their parameters and in their fundamentally new automated control system. The T-50 aircraft with NPO Saturn engines fully corresponds to the tactical-technical requirements for the aircraft. And with these engines produced serially, the PAK FA will be supplied for the needs of the Russian Air Forces.”
For his part, Saturn managing director Ilya Fedorov noted that the enterprise “supported the takeoff of the aircraft in the necessary time,” just as it was ready for flight.
ITAR-TASS goes on to add that special stand tests and service life tests on the engine continue at the Lytkarinskiy Machinebuilding Plant (another Saturn subsidiary). Ground development is being conducted on the T-50-KNS model with aircraft systems from OKB Sukhoy at the Gromov Flight Test Institute. Flight tests are also ongoing. T-50-1 has more than 40 flights, the T-50-2 two flights, and the Su-27 flying laboratory has 32 flights
The second experimental T-50 reportedly took off with this engine on 3 March.
Marchukov said:
“The engines in the experimental prototypes of the future Russian fifth generation fighter are seriously distinct from the 117S engines intended for Su-35 aircraft, both in their parameters and in their fundamentally new automated control system. The T-50 aircraft with NPO Saturn engines fully corresponds to the tactical-technical requirements for the aircraft. And with these engines produced serially, the PAK FA will be supplied for the needs of the Russian Air Forces.”
For his part, Saturn managing director Ilya Fedorov noted that the enterprise “supported the takeoff of the aircraft in the necessary time,” just as it was ready for flight.
ITAR-TASS goes on to add that special stand tests and service life tests on the engine continue at the Lytkarinskiy Machinebuilding Plant (another Saturn subsidiary). Ground development is being conducted on the T-50-KNS model with aircraft systems from OKB Sukhoy at the Gromov Flight Test Institute. Flight tests are also ongoing. T-50-1 has more than 40 flights, the T-50-2 two flights, and the Su-27 flying laboratory has 32 flights