【转贴译文】世界顶级战机一览 和 印度网友的评论

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【原文地址】:http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-best-fighter-jets-in-the-world/20101213.htm
【翻译作者】:nonchalantking
【联名作者】:北极星光
【翻译地址】:http://www.ptfcn.com/ptfcn/k/109.html
译文导读:文章来自印度新闻网站Rediff,看印度网友对于先进战机以及印度空军的看法如何

Air power is an indispensable aspect in any nation's security apparatus. Countries like India are today aggressively pushing forward with plans to build a robust air force, arming themselves with tech-loaded aircraft. Let's take a look at some of the best fighter aircraft around the world today.

对于任何一个国家的防务系统而言,空中力量都是必不可少的。如今,有许多像印度这样的国家,正雄心勃勃的计划打造一支由高科技战机组成的空军力量。让我们去检阅一些当今世界最强悍的战机吧:

【原文地址】:http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-best-fighter-jets-in-the-world/20101213.htm
【翻译作者】:nonchalantking
【联名作者】:北极星光
【翻译地址】:http://www.ptfcn.com/ptfcn/k/109.html
译文导读:文章来自印度新闻网站Rediff,看印度网友对于先进战机以及印度空军的看法如何

Air power is an indispensable aspect in any nation's security apparatus. Countries like India are today aggressively pushing forward with plans to build a robust air force, arming themselves with tech-loaded aircraft. Let's take a look at some of the best fighter aircraft around the world today.

对于任何一个国家的防务系统而言,空中力量都是必不可少的。如今,有许多像印度这样的国家,正雄心勃勃的计划打造一支由高科技战机组成的空军力量。让我们去检阅一些当今世界最强悍的战机吧:
明日战机----------F22 猛禽

As the world's only operational fifth-generation fighter, the F-22 Raptor is, and will remain, unprecedented in its total integration of stealth and advanced avionics

作为当今世界唯一的现役五代战机(俄军标准,美军标准是第四代),F22猛禽的隐身性能和航电技术的完美整合具有无可匹敌的优势,独领一代风骚。

Primary Function: Air dominance, multi-role fighter

主要功能:空优多用途战斗机

Contractor: Lockheed-Martin, Boeing

生产厂商:洛克希德·马丁公司,波音公司

Power Plant: Two Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 turbofan engines with afterburners and two-dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles.

发动机:两台普惠公司的二维推力矢量涡扇发动机

Crew: One

乘员:1人

Fuel Capacity: Internal: 18,000 pounds (8,200 kilograms); with 2 external wing fuel tanks: 26,000 pounds (11,900 kilograms)

载油量:内载:18000磅(8200千克);带两个外挂燃料箱时:26000磅(11900千克)

Speed:  Mach 2 class with supercruise capability

最大航速:2马赫,具有超音速巡航能力

Range: More than 1,850 miles ferry range with 2 external wing fuel tanks (1,600 nautical miles)

航程:在挂载两个外部燃料箱的情况下,超过1850英里(1600海里)

Ceiling: Above 50,000 feet (15 kilometers)

升限:超过50000英尺(15公里)(实际不止)

Armament: One M61A2 20-millimeter cannon with 480 rounds, internal side weapon bays carriage of two AIM-9 infrared (heat seeking) air-to-air missiles and internal main weapon bays carriage of six AIM-120 radar-guided air-to-air missiles (air-to-air loadout) or two 1,000-pound GBU-32 JDAMs and two AIM-120 radar-guided air-to-air missiles (air-to-ground loadout)

武器装备:1门M61A2 20毫米火神机关炮,配弹480发;内置两侧弹仓2枚AIM-9红外制导近距空空导弹,内置主弹仓6枚AIM-120雷达制导中距空空导弹(空对空武备)。或者是两枚1000磅GBU-32 JDAMs联合制导攻击炸弹配枚AIM-120雷达制导中距空空导弹(空对地武备)。

Unit Cost: $143 million (about Rs 643 crore)

单价:1.43亿美刀(约64.3亿印度卢比)
欧罗巴之翼---------台风战斗机

The Eurofighter is the product of a consortium of British Aerospace, Deutsche Aerospace (Germany), Alenia (Italy), and CASA (Spain), with the United Kingdom and Germany providing technological leadership

欧洲战斗机是多国厂商共同研制的产品,包括英国宇航公司、德国宇航公司、意大利阿莱尼亚公司、西班牙航空制造有限公司,由英德两国提供技术领导。

Function: Multi-role fighter

主要功能:多用途战斗机

Crew: 1

乘员:1

Engines: 2 Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofans, 60 kN dry, 93 kN with afterburner

发动机:两台欧洲喷气发动机公司的EJ200双轴复燃涡扇发动机,单台推力60千牛,加力推力可达93千牛。

Maximum speed: Mach 2.0+ (2390 km/h at high altitude)

最大航速: 2.0+马赫, 2390 km/h(高海拔)

Supercruise speed: Mach 1.3+ at altitude with typical air-to-air armament

超音速巡航速度:1.3+马赫(普通空战高度)

Service ceiling: 18,290 m (60,000 ft)

实用升限:18290米(60000英尺)

Range: 1390 km

航程:1390公里

Armament: The Eurofighter carries NATO's best weapons. It has a high load Capacity with flexible missile configurations. It has thirteen carriage points, three of which are capable of holding external fuel tanks. The maximum fuel or weapons payload is 6,500 kg (14,330 lb.).

武器装备:欧洲战斗机携带北约最好的武器。能使用广泛多样的导弹系统。台风有13个挂点,能够挂载三个外部燃料箱。最大燃料和武器载荷有6500千克(14330磅)(貌似被低估了)

A mixture of at least 10 ASRAAMs (advanced short range air-to-air missiles) and AMRAAM (advanced medium range air-to-air missiles) can be carried with four of the AMRAAMs housed in low drag, low observability fuselage stations. A wide variety of air-to-surface weapons can be carried on seven stations, including avionics stores such as laser designators.

至少可以混合挂载10枚ASRAAMs(先进近距空空导弹)和AMRAAM(先进中距空空导弹),其中有四个低阻、不易发现的挂点专放AMRAAM(就是半埋式挂点)。种类繁多的空对面武器可以装在7个挂点上,包括像激光制导指示吊舱这样的电子战设备。
达索之梦:法国阵风战斗机

The Dassault Rafale is a French twin-engined delta-wing agile multi-role 4.5-generation jet fighter aircraft designed and built by Dassault Aviation

阵风战斗机是法国达索公司研发制造的双发三角翼多用途战斗机,属于四代半战机。(俄军标准)

Primary Function: Multi-role fighter / reconnaisance

主要功能:多用途战斗/侦察机

Crew: Single or twin seater

乘员:一到二人。

Powerplant: Two SNECMA M88-3 turbofans each rated at 19,555 lb (86.98 kN) with afterburning

发动机:两台斯纳克玛M88-3涡扇发动机,单台额定加力推力为19555磅(86.98千牛)

Speed: Maximum level speed 'clean' at 36,090 ft (11000 m) 1,321 mph (1,147 kt / 2125 km/h)

航速:在36090英尺(11000米高度),最大速度为1321英里/小时(1147节或2125公里/小时)

Ceiling: 60,000 ft

升限:60000英尺

Range:  1000 nautical miles

作战半径:1000海里

Armament: Cannon: 1 30mm DEFA 554; Mica missile, R 550 Magic 2 missile, BGL 400 (French counterpart to the American Paveway laser guided bombs)

武器装备:一门30毫米DEFA 554航炮,米卡导弹,R550魔术2导弹,BGL400(法国研制的相当于美国宝石路激光制导炸弹)

Unit Cost: $82.3 million (about Rs 384 crore)

单价:8230万美刀(约38.4亿印度卢比)
北国鹰狮-------------瑞典JAS 39

The Saab JAS 39 Gripen is a light-weight single engine multirole fighter aircraft manufactured by the Swedish aerospace company Saab. The aircraft is in service with the Swedish Air Force, the Czech Air Force, the Hungarian Air Force and the South African Air Force, and has been ordered by the Royal Thai Air Force.

JAS39鹰狮战斗机是由瑞典航空航天工业集团(SAAB公司)生产的一款轻型单发多用途战斗机。该机已经在瑞典空军、捷克空军、匈牙利空军和南非空军中服役,并拿到了泰国皇家空军的订单。

Role: Fighter/attack/reconaissance

主要功能:战斗机/攻击机/侦察机

Crew: 1

乘员:1

Wingspan (including Launchers): 8.4m

翼展:8.4米(包括发射器)

Ceiling: 50,000ft

升限:50000英尺

Maximum Speed: Supersonic at all altitudes

最大航速:所有高度皆可超音速(汗,这数据太随意了)

Engine: The RM12engine, supplied by Volvo Aero, is a development of the GE F404 engine from General Electric. A digital engine control system automatically monitors the engine parameters and automatically switches on the back-up systems if required. A condition monitoring system registers the flight data.

发动机:RM12发动机,由沃尔沃航空发动机公司提供,是通用电气公司的F404发动机的北欧改良版。RM12由一个数字式发动机控制系统来自动检测发动机参数,并根据情况需要自动调整推力。一个状态检测系统记录飞行数据。

Armament: The Gripen has seven external hardpoints for carrying payloads -- one at each wingtip, two under each wing and one on the fuselage centreline. The Sidewinder, mounted on the wingtips, is an all-aspect attack, short-range missile for enhanced dogfight capability.

Air-to-surface missiles include the radar-guided Saab RBS15F anti-ship missile and Raytheon Maverick missile. The internally mounted 27mm Mauser high-energy gun can operate in an automatic radar-guided aiming mode. The stand-off dispenser is the DWF39 from EADS (formerly DaimlerChrysler Aerospace) and Bofors.

武器装备:鹰狮有7个外挂点—翼尖挂点2个,翼下挂点各2个,机身下一个。翼尖挂载的响尾蛇全向近距导弹增强了鹰狮的格斗能力。空对面导弹系统包括雷达制导Saab RBS15F反舰导弹和雷神公司小牛导弹。内装一门可自动雷达导引瞄准的27毫米毛瑟高能机炮。防区外散布器是由欧洲宇航防务集团(原戴姆勒克莱斯勒宇航)和博福斯公司提供的DWF39(一种远程发射弹药的精确制导子母弹装置,飞机可以从敌人的防区外距离就开始投放)。

Unit cost: $40.61 million (about Rs 182 crore)

单价:4061万美刀(约18亿2千万印度卢比)
全能飞将----------------F/A-18大黄蜂

The F/A-18 Hornet is a supersonic, all-weather carrier-capable multirole fighter jet, designed to dogfight and attack ground targets (F/A for Fighter/Attack).

F/A-18大黄蜂是一款超音速全天候多用途的战斗攻击机。(F/A是战斗/攻击的英文缩写)

Contractor: Boeing [McDonnell Douglas Aerospace] and Northrop Grumman (Airframe), General Electric (Engines), and Hughes (Radar)

制造商:波音(兼并了麦道公司)和诺斯罗普格鲁曼公司(负责机身),通用电气(发动机),和休斯公司(雷达)。

Power Plant: Two F404-GE-402 afterburning engines, each in the 18,000 pound thrust class, which results in a combat thrust-to-weight ratio greater than 1-to-1. Depending on the mission and loading, combat radius is greater than 500 nautical miles

发动机:两台F404-GE-402复燃发动机,单台推力达到18000磅,足以让战斗中的整机推重比超过1。根据不同的任务和载荷,战斗半径一律超过500海里。

Mission and Capabilities: The F/A-18 Hornet can perform both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. Cockpit displays and mission avionics are thoroughly integrated to enhance crew situational awareness and mission capability in high threat, adverse weather/night environments. Cockpits are night vision goggle compatible. Multi-sensor Integration and advanced data link capabilities further enhance situational awareness.

任务及能力:F/A-18大黄蜂能同时肩负空对空和空对面的作战任务。驾驶舱和航电系统完美融合,能有效的在恶劣天气及夜间环境下,增强飞行员的状态感知能力和任务完成能力。驾驶舱有夜视镜兼容。多传感器集成系统与先进的数据链传输能力进一步增强了飞行员的状态感知能力。

Seating capacity/crew options: Model F/A-18C: one-seat (pilot-only); Model F/A-18D: two-seats (one for the pilot and one for the weapons/sensor officer [WSO])

座位/乘员选择:F/A-18C型:单座(仅飞行员);F/A-18D型:双座(一个给飞行员,一个给武器/传感器操作员)

Top speed: Mach 1.8

最高航速:1.8马赫

Combat radius: 500+ nm (900+ km)

作战半径:500+海里(900+ 公里)

Armament: F/A-18C/D can carry up to 13,700 pounds of external ordnance. Weapon stations include two wingtip stations for Sidewinders, two outboard wing stations for air-to-air or air-to-ground weapons, two inboard wing stations for fuel tanks, air-to-air, or air-to-ground weapons, two nacelle fuselage stations for AMRAAMs, Sparrows, or sensor pods; and one centreline station for fuel or air-to-ground weapons.

武器装备:F/A-18C/D外挂载荷达到13700磅。武器挂架包括两个翼尖的响尾蛇近距导弹挂点,两个外翼挂点可挂载各种空对空或空对面武器,两个内翼挂点可挂载油箱、空对空或空对面武器,两个引擎处的挂点可挂载AMRAAMs先进中距空空导弹、麻雀中距弹或各种传感器吊舱;机身中线处挂点可挂载油箱或地对面武器。

Unit cost: $39.5 million (about Rs 180 crore)

单价:3950万美刀(约18亿印度卢比)
Su-30MKI:熟悉的陌生人

The Sukhoi Su-30MKI is a variant of the Sukhoi Su-30 jointly-developed by Russia's Sukhoi Corporation and India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited for the Indian Air Force. It is a heavy class, long-range air superiority fighter which can also act as a multirole, strike fighter aircraft.

Su-30MKI是由俄国苏霍伊公司和印度的印度斯坦航空公司专为印度空军研制的重型远程战斗机,能执行歼击、轰炸等多种任务。(中国的批次型号Su-30MKK)。

Crew: Two seater

乘员:双座

Engines: The Su-30MKI is powered by the two AL-31FP turbofans, employing AL-100 vectoring nozzle

发动机:两台AL-31FP涡扇发动机,带有AL-100矢量喷嘴(自动调方向角度的发动机喷嘴)

Ceiling: 17,500 m (57,415 ft)

升限:17500米(57415英尺)

Endurance: 10 hours

续航力:10小时

Max Range: 3,000 km (1,620 nm)

最大航程:3000公里(1620海里)

Top Speed: 664 mps (Mach 2)

最大航速:664米/秒(2马赫)

Armament: Main gun is 30 mm caliber. The combat load is mounted on 12 stations. The maximum advertised combat load is 8000 kg. Over 70 versions of guided and unguided weapon stores, including air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, may be employed which allows the aircraft to fly the most diverse tactical missions.

武器装备:一门30毫米航炮。有12个武器挂点,最大作战载荷为8000千克。有超过70种的制导和非制导武器,用来完成各种作战任务,包括一系列空对空和空对面导弹。

Unit Cost: $36.55 million (about Rs 164 crore)

单价:3655万美刀(约16.4亿印度卢比)
它来自中国:成飞歼10

The J-10 is a fourth-generation multi-role fighter, produced by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Co. (CAC). The secretive Chinese programme started in the late 1980s, and is reportedly based on the Israeli Lavi fighter, Israels attempt to develop its own F-16.

歼10是一款由成都飞机工业公司制造的第四代战机(俄军标准)。该项目于20世纪80年代在中国秘密实施,据说以色列提供了改进自F16的“狮”式战斗机技术作为研发基础。

Primary Function: Multi-role fighter

主要功能:多任务战斗机

Crew: 1

乘员:1人

Powerplant: 1x Lyulka-Saturn AL-31FN turbofan, rated at 79.43 kN dry, 122.58 kN with afterburning (17,857 lbf, 27,557 lbf)

发动机:一台留里卡-土星AL-31FN涡扇发动机,额定推力79.43千牛,加力推力122.58千牛(17857磅,27557磅)

Maximum speed: Mach 1.2 at sea level; Mach 2.0 at altitude

最高航速:海平面1.2马赫,高空2.0马赫

Combat radius: 550 km (300 nm, 340 mi)

作战半径:550公里(300海里,340英里)

Maximum range: 1,850 km (1,000 nm, 1,150 mi)

最大航程:1850公里(1000海里,1150英里)

Service ceiling: 18,000 m (59,055 ft)

作战升限:18000米(59055英尺)

Armament: Guns: 1 23 mm internal cannon; Hardpoints: 11 -- 3 under each wing and 5 under the fuselage;Missiles: air-to-air (PL-8, PL-11, PL-12, R-73, R-77), air-to-surface (YJ-9, YJ-9K); Bombs: laser-guided and unguided bombs

武器装备:内装一门23毫米机炮。挂架有11个—两翼各3个,机身下5个;导弹包括:空对空(PL-8, PL-11, PL-12, R-73, R-77),空对面(YJ-9, YJ-9K);炸弹有激光制导和其他非精确制导型号

Unit Cost: 190m yuan ($27.84m or about Rs 125 crore)

单价:1.9亿元人民币(2754万美刀或大约12.5亿印度卢比)
昔日王者: F-15

The F-15 Eagle is an all-weather, extremely maneuverable, tactical fighter designed to gain and maintain air superiority in aerial combat.

F-15是一款为获得与维持空优而设计的全天候、高机动性的战术战斗机。

Primary Function: Tactical fighter

主要功能:战术战斗机

Crew: One (F-15A/C), two (F-15B/D/E)

乘员:一人(F-15A/C),两人(F-15B/D/E)

Powerplant: Two P&W F100 turbofan engines in 29,000 lb (13,154 kg) thrust class with afterburning

发动机:两台普惠公司的F100涡扇发动机,加力推力达到29000磅(13154千克)。

Speed: 1,875 mph (Mach 2.5 plus)

最大平飞航速:1875英里/小时(2.5马赫以上)

Ceiling: 65,000 feet
升限:65000英尺

Range:  3,450 miles ferry range with conformal fuel tanks and three external fuel tanks

航程:3450英里(携带两个标准油箱和3个外油箱)

Armament: One internally mounted M-61A1 20mm 20-mm, six-barrel cannon with 940 rounds of ammunition; four AIM-9L/M Sidewinder and four AIM-7F/M Sparrow air-to-air missiles, or eight AIM-120 AMRAAMs, carried externally.
武器装备:内装一门20毫米M-61A1六管机炮,配弹940发;挂装4枚AIM-9L/M响尾蛇和四枚AIM-7F/M麻雀空空导弹,或八枚AIM-120先进中距空空导弹。

Unit Cost: A/B models $27.9 million (about Rs 126 crore), C/D models $29.9 million (about Rs 135 crore)
单价:A/B型号2790万美刀(约12.6亿印度卢比),C/D型号2990万美刀(约13.5亿卢比)
老兵不死:米格29支点战斗机

The MiG-29 Fulcrum is Russia's most important tactical fighter. Developed in the 1970s by the Mikoyan design bureau, it entered service with the Soviet Air Force in 1983, and remains in use by the Russian Air Force as well as in many other nations, including India.

米格-29支点战斗机是俄国最重要的战术战斗机。在20世纪70年代由米高扬(即米格)设计局研制,在1983年进入苏联空军服役,并一直在俄国乃至其它很多国家中服役至今,当然也包括印度。

Primary Function: Multi-role fighter

主要功能:多任务战斗机

Crew: One

乘员:一人

Powerplant: Two Klimov/Sarkisov RD-33 turbofans at 18,298 afterburning pounds of thrust each

发动机:两台Klimov/Sarkisov RD-33涡扇发动机,单台加力推力为18298磅

Speed:  Mach 2.3 (1,520 mph)

最大航速:2.3马赫(1520英里每小时)

Ceiling: 55,775 ft (17,000 m)

升限:55775英尺(17000米)

Range:  932 miles (810 nm/1500 km) with internal fuel

航程:932英里(810海里/1500公里)无副油箱

Armament: One 30mm GSh-301 cannon with 150 rounds, Six AAMs, including a mix of SARH and AA-8 Aphid (R60), AA-10 Alamo (R27T), AA-11 Archer, (R73), FAB 500-M62, FAB-1000, TN-100, ECM Pods, S-24, AS-12, AS-14

武器装备:一门30毫米GSh-301机炮,配弹150发,6枚空空导弹,包括半主动雷达制导导弹和AA-8 蚜虫(R60), AA-10 杨树(R27T), AA-11 人马座 (R73), FAB 500-M62, FAB-1000, TN-100, 电子战吊舱, S-24, AS-12, AS-14(都是弹药型号)

Unit Cost: $29 million (about Rs 130.5 crore).
单价:2900万美元(约13.05亿印度卢比)
飞遍全世界:F16战隼

The F-16 Fighting Falcon is a compact, multi-role fighter aircraft. It is highly maneuverable and has proven itself in air-to-air combat and air-to-surface attack. It provides a relatively low-cost, high-performance weapon system for the United States and allied nations.

F16战隼是一款小型多用途的战斗机。它的高机动性已经在历次空战和空对面攻击行动中得到证明。F16为美国及其盟国提供了一种高性价比的武器系统。

Primary Function: Multirole fighter

主要功能:多任务战斗机

Crew: One (F-16C) / Two (F-16D)

乘员:一人(F16C)两人(F16D)

Powerplant: F-16C/D: one Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-200/220/229 or one General Electric F110-GE-100/129

发动机:F-16C/D:一台普惠公司的F100-PW-200/220/229或一台通用电气公司的F110-GE-100/129

Speed: 1,500 mph (Mach 2 at altitude)
最大航速:1500英里每小时(高空2马赫)

Ceiling: Above 50,000 feet

升限:超50000英尺

Range: Over 2,100 nautical miles

航程:超2100海里

Armament: One M-61A1 20mm multibarrel cannon with 500 rounds; external stations can carry up to six air-to-air missiles, conventional air-to-air and air-to-surface munitions and electronic countermeasure pods

武器装备:一门M-61A1型20毫米机炮,配弹500发;挂架可配备6枚空空导弹,各种常规空空、空对面武器系统和电子战吊舱

Unit Cost: F-16A/B: $14.6 million (about Rs 65.7 crore), F-16C/D: $18.8 million (about Rs 84.6 crore)

单价:F-16A/B1400万美刀 (约6.57亿印度卢比), F-16C/D: 1880万美刀 (约8.46 亿印度卢比)
网友回复:


America the real superpower.. well they rule
by raj (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 11:47 AM
if America want something they will get it...that is the power .. WOW what a country

美利坚,真正的超级大国…好吧,他们老大

如果美国想要什么,他们就能弄到…这才叫强国…这国家太牛B了

The artice is BS
by Kumar (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 03:58 AM  | Hide replies
With spineless politicians, corrupt bureacrats and the defence forces contaminated with neopitism and corruption, as far as India is concerned, all these weapons and modern toys are worthless. It is high time India started hanging the corrupts by their neck, be they be CM, PM, Chief of Army, Navy or IAS, IPS, Judges or babus working in govt offices.

这篇文章就是坨SHI

by Kumar (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 03:58 AM  | Hide replies

软弱的政客,腐败的官僚,以及裙带关系和腐败横行的国防军,只要印度还存在这些问题,所有这些武器和现代化的玩意儿都毫无意义。我们是时候绞死那些贪官们了,像那些首席部长,总理,陆军,海军,印度行政事务中心和印度警察事务中心的总长们,还有那些大法官和在政府工作的先生们,都该被绞死!

*CM,Chief Minister,印度等国的地区政府最高长官。IAS,IPS,为三个全印度服务中心的其中两个,全称分别为India Administrative Service和India Police Service.
Re: The artice is BS
by Peethambaran A.K. (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 09:38 AM
The views expressed by Kumar advocating rash ation against the corrupt
is so dangerous that if
resorted to the step will leave huge void difficul to fill. Country will be devoid of leadership and foreign powers will be
tempted to step in. There willbe total vacuum
at the top leadership.
so,
let us think of other
alternatives like putting up all these
guys in jails, if space
available.
xznw2

回复:这篇文章就是坨SHI

by Peethambaran A.K. (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 09:38 AM

楼上这位大哥的言论显然是在宣扬一系列针对腐败问题的鲁莽措施。而这样的措施无疑是非常危险的。因为一旦真的诉诸于此类措施并做到这个地步的话,将会导致难以填补的巨大权力真空出现。整个国家将会失去领导力量,而外国势力将会乘虚而入。而国家的领导高层将会出现完全的权力真空。所以,咱还是另想个办法吧,比如把他们都扔到监狱里去,前提是那儿有足够的空间的话。
Re: The artice is BS
by ashok kumar (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 07:28 AM
Absolutely Correct !!!Add billions more to the price tag for Indian shopping list for bribes.

回复:这篇文章就是坨SHI

正解!!!又为印度人的贿赂采购单增加了数十亿开销。(指这篇文章的写作动机是为贪污打开方便之门)



Hidden Face of Paranoid Community
by Gyaan (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 01:54 AM  | Hide replies
Small nations like Sweden, France, UK have fighter planes....but India, nation of 120 billion, is still happily lost in mythology like Ramayana to boast about "Pushpak", the so called plane referred in Ramayana. This is nothing but a conspiracy / Propaganda of RSS. Let some nation invest XYZ and we read in our newpapers/magazines that "Ancient India already had that...It was in Ramayan/Mahabharat"...? From where does this come..? of course, Nagpur - the head quarters of RSS..The intention is to foolishly prove that how a particular community, dominant in those days and still dominant today with secretive agendas have led this nation very well. All Bahujan/Kshatrya/Dalit should be vary of such tendency.

偏执团体的隐藏面目

一些像瑞典,法国,英国这样的小国都有战斗机…但印度,一个有着12亿人口的国家,居然仍然沉迷于罗摩纳衍这样的神话故事,并对神话中所谓的飞机“Pushpak”乐此不疲。这实际就是个阴谋,是RSS的宣传而已。别的国家投资什么什么,我们就在我们的报纸上看到“古代印度就已经有了…它是在罗摩衍那或是谟哈巴拉特被发现的”云云。这是哪儿来的说法啊?当然是来自那格浦尔—RSS的总部。其意图是愚蠢地证明一个特定的团体是如何用神秘主义统领这个国家的,在过去是这样,现在依然如此。所有印度人都应该注意这点才是。

*RSS,印度一民粹主义团体,宣扬印度历史和文化的崇高。Bahujan/Kashatrya/Dalit,后两者均为印度种姓,K为第二种姓,D为贱民。B没有找到相关资料。
Re: Hidden Face of Paranoid Community
by Neo Indian (View MyPage) on Dec 15, 2010 11:29 AM
i guess you would take pride in seventh century arabian ideology rather than our local epics.
Dont idly pass cynical judgments. To take pride in our past is not wrong. But we are also simultaneously upgrading ourselves.
ISRO is even preparing to land on the moon, while you are cribbing about destructive aircraft that can kill or maim thousands.
All of India should be wary of people like you who have such divisive tendencies.
Go away and hide your face.

回复:偏执团体的隐藏面目

我猜相较于我们本土的史诗传奇,或许你对七世纪的阿拉伯思想更感到自豪?

别开口就是些愤世嫉俗的言论。为我们的过去而骄傲没什么不对。我们也在同时提升自己。

印度空间研究组织甚至在准备登月了,你还在这儿为这些可能造成人员死亡或伤残的飞机唧唧歪歪。(神逻辑登场)

所有的印度人都应该对你这种有着分裂倾向的人多注意点。

滚一边自个玩儿蛋去吧。
Our hut is better than somebody else's palace!
by Grizzly (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 02:40 PM  | Hide replies
Old saying is true. No matter how funky and cool these jets look, if they dont perform when we need them to, they are useless. So, if we end up buying some funky US stuff for our strategic forces and tommorow during war times we ask for critical spare parts to keep our funky jets going and uncle Sam asks big favours in return, we'll be in a big fix.

Its always better to develop our own jets even if they are a bit less than the funky features of these foreign jets. But in times of need, our jets will have all the spare parts we need to keep them going.

If we do still intend to buy these foreign jets becoz mms has to oblige maino's relatives as middlemen, then we should at least ask for a joint venture and tech transfer to manufacture these jets in India so that we have the ability to build parts if need be.

金窝银窝,不如自家的草窝

古话说的对。不管这些飞机看上去多牛X,多拉轰,只要它不能在我们需要的时候大显身手,它就毫无用处。所以,我们应该停止买那些美国飞机来作为我们的战略军备。不然将来某天在战时我们急需一些关键替换部件,山姆大叔朝我们狮子大开口,我们就歇菜了。

发展自己的战机永远是个更好的选择,即便它们可能没外国战机那么牛逼。但是在急需的时候,战机的替换部件将后顾无忧。

如果因为MMS作为中间人而不得不讨好Maino的相关人员,我们仍然打算买那些外国战机的话,那我们起码应该要求是以合作的形式,要求将生产这些飞机的技术转移至印度,这样我们在需要的时候就可以自产了。
Re: Our hut is better than somebody else's palace!
by Kumar Bhargava (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 08:42 PM
Mr Grizzly
What do you mean by ' our jets '. You think the ones developed in Bangalore do not depend on foreign parts ?. First we need a dependable engine and accurate fire power. You think we have them (honestly) ?

回复:金窝银窝,不如自家的草窝

Grizzly,

你说的“我们的飞机”是什么意思?你以为那些在班加罗尔生产的飞机不依赖外国零部件么?我们首先就需要一个依赖外国技术的引擎和精准的火力。(坦诚点,)你以为我们能搞出来?


Re: Re: Our hut is better than somebody else's palace!
by AbsRight (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 09:14 PM
Here is 'swadesi' with a twist! Which country manufactures all that it needs?? Why are we paranoid about everyone else ditching us and us only?

回楼上:

你这是歪曲的解释。哪个国家生产它所需要的一切?我们为什么总是怀疑别人在抛弃我们,而且是只抛弃我们?
Tough men behind the Paper Jets makes Indian Air Force.
by Tipsy Pillai (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 11:41 AM

是印度军人,而不是这些脆弱的飞机,组成了印度空军。

DRDO
by Bob Marley (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 06:41 AM  | Hide replies
scientists and engineers are working on a fighter that will kick ass of all others. It is so stealthy that no one can hear or see it and costs only 250 crores a piece.
In fact it is already flying.

国防发展与研究组织

by Bob Marley (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 06:41 AM  | Hide replies

的科学家和工程师正致力于开发一种宇宙无敌的战机。它的隐形功能特别好,以至于没人能听见或者看见。而且每架只要二十五亿卢比。

实际上,它已经服役了。(三哥的自嘲式幽默)
Re: DRDO
by shiv shankar (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 10:02 AM
funny we don't have money for good roads when will we develop such innovations all we can do is watch and read news about corruption terrorism and other nasty crimes

回楼上:

想想真搞笑啊,我们没钱修条好点的路,却有钱烧在这种东西上面。我们能做的,也就是看看电视、报纸,读一读那些有关腐败,恐怖主义以及其他恶心的犯罪的消息。



This is the old version of Raptor. Out dated info.
by Sukhdev Chaddha (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 03:30 AM
Our dated Info. i dont know Janaab Azizbhai wants this topic here.....must be some reason.

这是猛禽的旧版本,我们的数据过时了

我们那过时的消息啊。我不知道Janaab Azizbhai为啥会安排这么个专题….肯定是有原因的。
Anyone will do
by Prashanth (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 03:13 AM  | Hide replies
Buy any one of them but don't buy Chinese crap!

任何人都会这么做

买其中的任何一架,除了中国的垃圾!


Re: Anyone will do
by megakids (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 07:34 AM
Ya, stupid India can only BUY...you think you can ever MAKE one yourself? Chinese jet will wipe your ass out!

回复:

是啊,白痴印度人只能买…你觉得你们能自己造一架么?中国飞机会把你丫SHI揍出来!
不管怎么说,这翻译真是不错
Re: Re: Anyone will do
by Prashanth (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 09:30 PM
Go make a paper plane.
If you are unable to do that get a Chinese guy to make you one.

回复:

赶紧去造一架“纸”飞机吧。

不会找个中国人教你。



Good Quotations for the Aircrafts...
by aziz_nurani (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 02:05 AM  | Hide replies
I am impressed with the detail Quotes.. let me give you business.. Send me one of each..

不错的战机实例

我对于那些细节印象非常深刻…我给你点生意做吧…每种来一架。
貌似不是翻译软件出来的。。。
看着挺搞笑的
Re: Good Quotations for the Aircrafts...
by Sukhdev Chaddha (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 03:29 AM
yes sir ! If you buy more or get some govt.to buy we will reserve 20% for you. Directly payable in SwizzBank or Dhubai Banks.

回复:

好的,先生!如果你买多一点,或者能拉些政府来买,我们可以给您打个八折优惠。可通过瑞士银行和迪拜银行直接付款。



Fighter Jets
by Ronny vaz (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM
Some fighter jets are so cheap that our Bollywood actors can easily buy them instead of Rolls Royce,Mercedes or BMW and present it to their Wife/fiancée or girlfriend.

战机

有些灰机好便宜啊,我们的宝莱坞明星都能轻易买下来,当劳斯莱斯,奔驰,或者宝马送给妻子,情人,女友了。
Marwadi Plane
by Godrocksbig (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 12:13 AM  | Hide replies
We Marwadi People plan to built our own aircraft.
it will be called Byaj-Nagad Viman.
It will be used to fly and collect Interest from our Clients.

我们Marwadi人民计划建造我们自己的飞机。

它将被命名为Byaj-Nagad Viman。

它将被用作飞行和收集调查我们客户的兴趣。


Re: Marwadi Plane
by harish kumar (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 12:19 AM
very good sense of Humor...
by the way your business not doing well nowadays, because banks started lending money more easily and on cheaper rates than ever. Its time to think about something else folks...!

回复:

你太幽默了…

鉴于银行放贷门槛降低,利率下调,你们如今生意也做得不咋地。是时候想想其他出路了,兄弟…!
cross1993 发表于 2010-12-19 20:03

看米帝的保密艺术。
Russia
by karan shah (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:20 PM  | Hide replies
Whatever l'il bit we are able to survive with our Air force is all bcoz of Russia's help. Even today most of the technical documentation, manuals of our fighters are in Russian. Many IAF officials are trained for Russian language. If no Russian support, we are crashed.

俄罗斯

不管咋地,我敢赌,我们之所以能指望我们的空军,全是因为俄罗斯的帮助。即使如今,我们的大多数技术文件,飞机操作手册都是俄罗斯的。印度空军许多官员都接受俄语训练。如果不是俄罗斯,我们就完蛋了。


Re: Russia
by Ronny vaz (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 12:45 AM
Russia is the only country supported India during Indo-Portuguese war on Goa Liberation.

回复:

俄罗斯是在印葡果阿解放战争中,唯一支持印度的国家。
Re: Re: Russia
by Navi Reyd (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 01:02 AM
I don't think the Soviet Union really cared for Goa or India. They only supported India during the Cold War to get India to side with them against the West, and for India to overlook all Soviet acts of aggression. They also wanted lucrative deals from India for their second-class military hardware. Evey now and again for so many years, you hear of Indian MIGS crashing in India.

回复楼上:

我不认为前苏联真的关心果阿或者印度。他们冷战期间支持印度的原因是为了拉拢印度,对抗西方,并让印度对前苏联的所有侵略行为视而不见。他们也想在印度身上用二等武器大捞一笔。这么多年,你时不时的听说有印度米格战机坠毁的消息。


Re: Re: Re: Russia
by shiv shankar (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 10:06 AM
anything and everything decommissioned by russia is bought by india

回楼上:

俄罗斯退役了的都被印度买回来了。
Re: Re: Re: Re: Russia
by bell (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 05:17 PM
Absolutely...! imagine we still have foxtrot class submarines gaurding our coast. Its nothing but a submerged tin can which can oly make noise, to be detected from millions of miles away. These were decommisioned 30 year back by russia and we still use this peice of shit.

回楼上:

绝对的!想想看,我们仍然用狐步级潜艇进行海岸巡逻。它活脱脱就是个只会发出噪音的潜水罐子,声儿大的几千里外都能听见。这垃圾30年前就被俄罗斯淘汰了,我们居然到今天还在用它!



dumbos
by veejay (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:16 PM  | Hide replies
they forgot to mention the mileage.. how silly..

傻逼

他们居然没提到航程…太二了…
翻译很赞。
见贤思齐啊。
Re: dumbos
by Oye Kake (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:33 PM
He he... are you going to buy bajaj scooter?
When you driving Rolls Royce do you think of milage?

哈哈…你是准备买三轮车啊?

你开劳斯莱斯的时候,还看安全里程?


Re: dumbos
by Herry (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:47 PM
how much mileage ur bicycle gives?

回复:

你家自行车的航程是多少?
Re: Re: dumbos
by santosh mhalsekar (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 10:30 AM
5 KM per plate idli.. :)

回楼上:

一张饼5公里



Mera bharat mohan
by bhusan karmakar (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:02 PM
foolish talk! if indian scientist built in-house how the politicians’ omission/commission business will run? Big deal lot of polotician will be happy.

神佑印度

白痴的对话!如果印度科学家能在国内造出来,政客们遗漏和委托的把戏又怎么会玩的起来?

好了不起啊,许多政客又要偷着乐了。
To kill people!
by Raja Ismail (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:00 PM
End result, these sophisticated aircrafts are used to kill people. Thats the height of human advancement and man's great achivement!

为了杀人

最终的结果是,那些复杂的飞机是用来杀人的。这就是人类的进步,人类的伟大成就。



mera bharat mahaan..
by Nayak (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 08:25 PM  | Hide replies
so many amazing aircraft.. we are not even able to make even screws and nuts of any of these aircraft.
china, at least, can make something.
i hope young generations of india who says 'we are the number on in the world' see this blog..

神佑印度

如此多神奇的灰机…可我们甚至连它们的螺丝和螺母都生产不出来。

起码中国还能捣腾出些东西。

我希望那些嚷嚷着“老子天下第一”的印度年轻一代能看到这篇博文。
居然没有LCA。。。。
Re: mera bharat mahaan..
by Herry (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 09:29 PM
Hitler made thousands of fighter planes during 1940s and we in 2010 cant even make 1 fully indian made fighter plane.

回复:

希特勒在二十世纪四十年代制造了数以千记的战机,我们身处二十一世纪,却依然不能造出一架纯印度血统的战机。


Re: mera bharat mahaan..
by surendhar (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 12:20 AM
India is making indigenous aircrafts its 4 generation (tejas ) we are going to induct to airforce may be 2013 and we are in equal partner in manufaturing pak fa 5 generation aircraft With russia sukohi

回复:

印度正在研制本土的飞机。我们的四代机将会于2013年引进空军。现在,我们正以一个平等的合作伙伴的身份和苏霍伊共同研制五代机。
Re: Re: mera bharat mahaan..
by xtrax (View MyPage) on Dec 14, 2010 06:12 AM
keep believing that we are equal partners India said it wont buy their aircraft unless they knew everything about it, this is after the soviet union collapsed anyone could say anything at that time to them, that is why you see this in collaboration with India

回楼上:

接着相信这种我们是平等的合作伙伴的话吧。印度还说过除非他们知悉飞机的所有细节,否则他们不会买的呢。在苏联解体之后,是个人都能对俄罗斯唧唧歪歪。这也是为什么你会在如今的合作中见到这种情形(所谓的平等伙伴)。
这个翻译好欢愉,哈哈
能造好飞机的国家不少
能造好发动机的就那几个了
Re: mera bharat mahaan..
by BHARATIYAN (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 10:04 PM
If Indian Politicians provide even 1 percent of what they have looted from this country to the country's Scientists they can definitely make a grt Fighter Aircraft.You can't expect them to prepare a grt Fighter from the pittances they are paid for R&D.Indian defence R&D is not even half of what countries like US spend.Don't make fun of your own country we are very very capable of doing a lot of things only thing that is stopping them is Bureaucracy and lack of Political will.Just think abt number of indians working in all the High-Tech companies of the world u will understand how good we are.Be proud of your country,It's our Country our Motherland whatever ills it may have.

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如果印度的政客能把他们从这个国家搜刮到的钱拿出百分之一来给印度的科学家做经费,他们就肯定能研制出一种牛逼的战机来。你不能指望他们靠国防部那点研发资金弄架飞机出来。国防部的研发投入甚至都不到美国的一半。别拿自个国家开涮,我们实际上是灰常灰常能干的。他们只是受困于官僚主义和政治意愿缺乏。只要想一想在世界上高科技公司工作的印度人的数量,你就知道我们是多么的优秀了。为自己的国家而自豪吧。不管她遭受着怎样的疾病困扰,她都是我们的祖国,我们的母亲。
Why both Fighter which India have is Russian...
by chowdhary raza (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 03:06 PM
Why both Fighter which India have is Russian...

为神马印度的战机都是俄罗斯的…

如题



mileage kitna degi ??
by Indian (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 03:00 PM
all these FP - how much mileage will be...better than maruti 800?

航程问题

所有这些战机- 航程是多少啊?比马鲁迪800(印度一种国产车)要好?
NOTHING CAN
by virat agarwal (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 02:58 PM  | Hide replies
touch MIG-21 its a lisecnce to the heaven...!!!

没有什么能够

触及MIG-21。它就是天堂的通行证…!!!

Re: NOTHING CAN
by Ronny vaz (View MyPage) on Dec 13, 2010 04:30 PM
Virat 4rm bandra west...correct.

。。。正确