[ZT]悲剧的伊拉克军,数百人败给5个人

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http://www.lkong.net/thread-311008-1-1.html
(毕竟是土共也承认的政府,"伪"字就免了)

昨天塞车回家的时候在收音机上听到的故事。不久前在伊拉克东部迪亚拉省发生的一场战斗:

一片棕榈林里有4、5个武装份子。伊拉克军动用了数百名士兵,7支不同部队的指挥官加上伊拉克国防部长亲自到场。美军一个营级部队加上战斗机空中支援作为后援。战斗持续3天,其间,政府军方面战斗机扔了2枚500磅炸弹,同时发射榴弹、迫炮弹、机枪子弹无算;战斗结果:伊拉克军死5人、伤13人,美军伤2 人;武装份子... 全部逃跑了。

战斗中,伊拉克军暴露出个人基本战技低下、基层指挥官战术素养低下、士兵士气低下等问题。美军要是真的全走了,留下这样子的伊军,伊拉克举国悲剧还真是指日可待啊。


原文全文如下:

Battle Raises Questions On Iraq Security Readiness

Despite the fact that the U.S. military insists Iraqi security forces are ready to handle their own security as American troops withdraw from Iraq, one U.S. commander says glaring mistakes were made by Iraqis during a recent battle.                     
Lt. Col. Bob Molinari of the 25th Infantry Division based in Hawaii says the fight in the eastern Iraqi province of Diyala, now being called the Battle of the Palm Grove, involved hundreds of Iraqi soldiers, U.S. ground troops and American fighter planes dropping two 500-pound bombs — all to combat just a handful of insurgents. And in the end, the enemy got away.                     
Molinari says the troubles in the palm grove started when local residents reported that insurgents affiliated with al-Qaida had assembled there to build bombs. An Iraqi commander led a unit of Iraqi soldiers in to investigate.

Molinari says Iraqi commanders from a total of seven different units showed up at the scene. Even the minister of defense was there. Molinari says too many commanders meant no coherent plan of action.                     
Iraqi soldiers were sent into the grove, in single file, each headed by an officer, Molinari says. The insurgent snipers would simply take aim at the officer who was leading each column.                     
"It was a matter of, as soon as the officers went down, the [Iraqi soldiers] went to ground. They didn't know what to do next," Molinari says.                     
The Iraqi soldiers fled from the palm grove and requested American firepower, Molinari says. So the Americans employed bombs, mortars, grenades and special forces. But the enemy only hid in drainage ditches, waited, then came out again, shooting.                     
In all, five Iraqis were killed and 13 were wounded. Two Americans were wounded as well. By the second night of battle, the Iraqis had ordered a full retreat from the palm grove.
After the battle, Molinari and the Iraqi commander in Diyala decided to set up a monthlong training session based on what went wrong in the Battle of the Palm Grove. The training is taking place in another palm grove that was once a vacation home for a commander in former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's army.                     
On the first day of training, Molinari's men draw diagrams of how soldiers should move in diagonals, not straight lines.                     
Iraqi Lt. Gen. Tariq Abdul Wahab Jassim acknowledges that Iraqi soldiers made mistakes in the Battle of the Palm Grove and asks what to do differently next time.                     
Molinari responds that the Iraqis should have sent in just one platoon with one commander. And, he says, the Iraqis should never have given up their ground.                     
"Once the firefight starts, you do not break contact with the enemy," Molinari says. "You continue to focus on him, and if you cannot maneuver, other forces come in — until he's dead."

After the question-and-answer session, Molinari's men move into the trees to demonstrate how it's done. A loudspeaker simulates how a message would be sent to civilians to evacuate the area before the fight begins.                     
American soldiers fire blanks at a simulated enemy target. The unit's spokesman, Maj. Gabe Zinni, says this is the kind of training that any American soldier would receive before going into combat.                     
"These are ... fundamentals," he says. "Absolutely."                     
In other words, if the enemy is hiding in a densely wooded area and shooting at you, advance on him and keep firing at him, while more of your men sneak around and attack him from the side or from behind.                     
In the end, it turns out that only four or five insurgents were fighting in the Battle of the Palm Grove.                     
And despite the efforts of hundreds  of Iraqi soldiers, about 50 American soldiers, and massive firepower, the  insurgents eventually managed to escape from the palm grove.                     
Back at the base, Molinari says he simply wasn't going to put his men on the front lines.                     
"It took a lot to hold them back," he says, "because my NCOs and my scout platoon leaders were saying, 'We can do this. We can eliminate this threat right now. I just need to go out on a flank and make this happen.' I basically had to take an appetite suppressant and I had to say, 'No. If I send you out there, you will probably eliminate the threat. But that's not the mission. The mission is to get them to do it.' "                     
While that might clarify America's role in Iraq until all U.S. forces withdraw at the end of next year, analysts say the Battle of the Palm Grove raises questions about the Iraqi forces they're leaving behind.http://www.lkong.net/thread-311008-1-1.html
(毕竟是土共也承认的政府,"伪"字就免了)

昨天塞车回家的时候在收音机上听到的故事。不久前在伊拉克东部迪亚拉省发生的一场战斗:

一片棕榈林里有4、5个武装份子。伊拉克军动用了数百名士兵,7支不同部队的指挥官加上伊拉克国防部长亲自到场。美军一个营级部队加上战斗机空中支援作为后援。战斗持续3天,其间,政府军方面战斗机扔了2枚500磅炸弹,同时发射榴弹、迫炮弹、机枪子弹无算;战斗结果:伊拉克军死5人、伤13人,美军伤2 人;武装份子... 全部逃跑了。

战斗中,伊拉克军暴露出个人基本战技低下、基层指挥官战术素养低下、士兵士气低下等问题。美军要是真的全走了,留下这样子的伊军,伊拉克举国悲剧还真是指日可待啊。


原文全文如下:

Battle Raises Questions On Iraq Security Readiness

Despite the fact that the U.S. military insists Iraqi security forces are ready to handle their own security as American troops withdraw from Iraq, one U.S. commander says glaring mistakes were made by Iraqis during a recent battle.                     
Lt. Col. Bob Molinari of the 25th Infantry Division based in Hawaii says the fight in the eastern Iraqi province of Diyala, now being called the Battle of the Palm Grove, involved hundreds of Iraqi soldiers, U.S. ground troops and American fighter planes dropping two 500-pound bombs — all to combat just a handful of insurgents. And in the end, the enemy got away.                     
Molinari says the troubles in the palm grove started when local residents reported that insurgents affiliated with al-Qaida had assembled there to build bombs. An Iraqi commander led a unit of Iraqi soldiers in to investigate.

Molinari says Iraqi commanders from a total of seven different units showed up at the scene. Even the minister of defense was there. Molinari says too many commanders meant no coherent plan of action.                     
Iraqi soldiers were sent into the grove, in single file, each headed by an officer, Molinari says. The insurgent snipers would simply take aim at the officer who was leading each column.                     
"It was a matter of, as soon as the officers went down, the [Iraqi soldiers] went to ground. They didn't know what to do next," Molinari says.                     
The Iraqi soldiers fled from the palm grove and requested American firepower, Molinari says. So the Americans employed bombs, mortars, grenades and special forces. But the enemy only hid in drainage ditches, waited, then came out again, shooting.                     
In all, five Iraqis were killed and 13 were wounded. Two Americans were wounded as well. By the second night of battle, the Iraqis had ordered a full retreat from the palm grove.
After the battle, Molinari and the Iraqi commander in Diyala decided to set up a monthlong training session based on what went wrong in the Battle of the Palm Grove. The training is taking place in another palm grove that was once a vacation home for a commander in former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's army.                     
On the first day of training, Molinari's men draw diagrams of how soldiers should move in diagonals, not straight lines.                     
Iraqi Lt. Gen. Tariq Abdul Wahab Jassim acknowledges that Iraqi soldiers made mistakes in the Battle of the Palm Grove and asks what to do differently next time.                     
Molinari responds that the Iraqis should have sent in just one platoon with one commander. And, he says, the Iraqis should never have given up their ground.                     
"Once the firefight starts, you do not break contact with the enemy," Molinari says. "You continue to focus on him, and if you cannot maneuver, other forces come in — until he's dead."

After the question-and-answer session, Molinari's men move into the trees to demonstrate how it's done. A loudspeaker simulates how a message would be sent to civilians to evacuate the area before the fight begins.                     
American soldiers fire blanks at a simulated enemy target. The unit's spokesman, Maj. Gabe Zinni, says this is the kind of training that any American soldier would receive before going into combat.                     
"These are ... fundamentals," he says. "Absolutely."                     
In other words, if the enemy is hiding in a densely wooded area and shooting at you, advance on him and keep firing at him, while more of your men sneak around and attack him from the side or from behind.                     
In the end, it turns out that only four or five insurgents were fighting in the Battle of the Palm Grove.                     
And despite the efforts of hundreds  of Iraqi soldiers, about 50 American soldiers, and massive firepower, the  insurgents eventually managed to escape from the palm grove.                     
Back at the base, Molinari says he simply wasn't going to put his men on the front lines.                     
"It took a lot to hold them back," he says, "because my NCOs and my scout platoon leaders were saying, 'We can do this. We can eliminate this threat right now. I just need to go out on a flank and make this happen.' I basically had to take an appetite suppressant and I had to say, 'No. If I send you out there, you will probably eliminate the threat. But that's not the mission. The mission is to get them to do it.' "                     
While that might clarify America's role in Iraq until all U.S. forces withdraw at the end of next year, analysts say the Battle of the Palm Grove raises questions about the Iraqi forces they're leaving behind.
没有士气的军队,武器再好,也没用
是不是故意放水啊,内部矛盾总是容易出内鬼
千年古国算是给糟蹋了,不过还有石油的本钱,但愿平安早日降临吧
呵呵,伊拉克人不傻。不像国内的某些天天喊着米国带去的是自由和人权。
那几个是超级赛亚人吧…
五个人全跑了?应该是给炸没了吧
四木 发表于 2010-10-7 14:58


    尸体呢,再离谱点,肉块呢?
会有人说他给md带路的
伊拉克人不打伊拉克人!
500磅炸弹!!两枚!!去炸5个人。。话说这伊军跟MD学的不错,听说MD喜欢拿战斧炸帐篷的说。。
估计当兵只是混口饭吃的,不是拼老命的。
看来还是呼唤MD的作战部队比较好
{:jian:}
美军全部撤走之日,就是伊拉克内战打响之时!各方都在瞧准机会插上一腿!
看在钱和真主的份儿上,为什么挂掉的不是美军。
不过这样会不会让防长很没有面子,以后怎么混。
皇协军的战斗力一向不好。
内鬼太多,放水。多捎带搞定几个美国佬,自己人不打。
兄弟们只是混口饭,哪知道土匪这么狡猾!
悲剧的伊拉克啊
不是皇协军无能而是游击队太狡猾
武装份子... 全部逃跑了。

:D笑晕了
偶很怀疑这五个人是否真的存在。。
意大利国防军表示淡定
大圣归来 发表于 2010-10-7 16:13


    附议
:D也不能这么说
这跟围剿逃犯一样
抓不住或者打不死很正常
伊拉克军死5人、伤13人,美军伤2 人
说明了逃犯是合格的逃犯
国防部长也上阵,是大鱼啊。{:3_83:}
估计大家都在应付事!
五鼠挖地道跑了
看来如果与阿富汗过敏军过招,伊拉克军是不是要完败了?那个阿富汗过敏军口气很狂的说。{:wuyu:}
数百人去围5人,还有MD大人在旁指导,十八班武艺上场,恐怖分子还是跑了,可见水平不是一般的差。
不知为何而战的部队能打出什么战绩!
棕榈林中伊军垮,
世人皆骂美利坚。
我自挥师援友部,
奈何乱党有高达。
皇协军打仗放空枪是他们的传统。
皇协军可不傻呢...............
本来就是背黑锅的货色..........
打的好是MD指导有方..........
打的不好是皇协军战斗力不行..........

拼命做什么..........
这五人是驾驶机动战士的吧?
一样,现在不知道有多少人盼望MD来解放
。。。。。。。。。。。。。。说啥好呢?
觉得咱的城管大军 可以平定 伊拉克了{:jian:}
伊拉克版的狼牙山五壮士
伊拉克人民并不傻