超级军网转迪拜军演传说：台风的气动，发动机，电战全垃圾？？？
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流传的据说是台风中队长的博克
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From a RAF blog - was link from e goat - official RAF Forum
-yesterday i copy some text as i could not make link work - but could not post intil today
big suprise the moderator remove link to blog and the blog is gone
pilot is SQN LDR Trenchard
The exercise was a blue team interception of a Strike packages Top cover
The 2 flights consisted of 4x typhoons & 4x rafale.
We were acting as an F14 flight (no mention of whose but ..) acting as CAP for a strike group. We were conducting active sweeps the rafales had AWACS support.
In the first engagement the AWACS vectored them into our 6 position. We never heard or saw them coming. Obviously vectored by the AWACS they made a completely passive attack at long range. Those MICA are a serious threat – the MAW system completely failed to give us any warning of a launch.
阵风有预警机引导至台风后方，云母导弹静默攻击（数字导弹靠目标坐标攻击，无雷达波束引导）。台风雷达告警器完全没有探测到导弹发射。（应该是4:0)
In the second engagement the Rafales were (simulating) only WVR heat seekers and for BVR had to use RH.
We did not get the result we wanted – we broke as soon as we heard the RWR and turned into them, But we just couldn’t detect them, that SPECTRA is really some thing as soon as they go active with that system the aircraft just vanishes of the scope.
Once we got into WVR it all went to pieces – we just couldn’t match the Rafales agility, If you turned with it we bled off to much air speed and the Rafale out accelerated us.
Our one ill was more down to a screw up by Frenchie than skill on our part.
It appears that yet again the RAFs been lumbered at 5x the cost with another BAE lemon.
Personally I say save a fortune on the F35 and fly the Rafale off the carriers. For our likely opponents its more than adequate, and maybe we can ditch the great white elephant known as Typhoon
Disappointed and disillusioned is how best to describe the squadron post exercise.流传的据说是台风中队长的博克
Lindermyer
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1
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maybe this interset you
From a RAF blog - was link from e goat - official RAF Forum
-yesterday i copy some text as i could not make link work - but could not post intil today
big suprise the moderator remove link to blog and the blog is gone
pilot is SQN LDR Trenchard
The exercise was a blue team interception of a Strike packages Top cover
The 2 flights consisted of 4x typhoons & 4x rafale.
We were acting as an F14 flight (no mention of whose but ..) acting as CAP for a strike group. We were conducting active sweeps the rafales had AWACS support.
In the first engagement the AWACS vectored them into our 6 position. We never heard or saw them coming. Obviously vectored by the AWACS they made a completely passive attack at long range. Those MICA are a serious threat – the MAW system completely failed to give us any warning of a launch.
阵风有预警机引导至台风后方，云母导弹静默攻击（数字导弹靠目标坐标攻击，无雷达波束引导）。台风雷达告警器完全没有探测到导弹发射。（应该是4:0)
In the second engagement the Rafales were (simulating) only WVR heat seekers and for BVR had to use RH.
We did not get the result we wanted – we broke as soon as we heard the RWR and turned into them, But we just couldn’t detect them, that SPECTRA is really some thing as soon as they go active with that system the aircraft just vanishes of the scope.
Once we got into WVR it all went to pieces – we just couldn’t match the Rafales agility, If you turned with it we bled off to much air speed and the Rafale out accelerated us.
Our one ill was more down to a screw up by Frenchie than skill on our part.
It appears that yet again the RAFs been lumbered at 5x the cost with another BAE lemon.
Personally I say save a fortune on the F35 and fly the Rafale off the carriers. For our likely opponents its more than adequate, and maybe we can ditch the great white elephant known as Typhoon
Disappointed and disillusioned is how best to describe the squadron post exercise.
Lindermyer
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1
Dare 2
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maybe this interset you
From a RAF blog - was link from e goat - official RAF Forum
-yesterday i copy some text as i could not make link work - but could not post intil today
big suprise the moderator remove link to blog and the blog is gone
pilot is SQN LDR Trenchard
The exercise was a blue team interception of a Strike packages Top cover
The 2 flights consisted of 4x typhoons & 4x rafale.
We were acting as an F14 flight (no mention of whose but ..) acting as CAP for a strike group. We were conducting active sweeps the rafales had AWACS support.
In the first engagement the AWACS vectored them into our 6 position. We never heard or saw them coming. Obviously vectored by the AWACS they made a completely passive attack at long range. Those MICA are a serious threat – the MAW system completely failed to give us any warning of a launch.
阵风有预警机引导至台风后方，云母导弹静默攻击（数字导弹靠目标坐标攻击，无雷达波束引导）。台风雷达告警器完全没有探测到导弹发射。（应该是4:0)
In the second engagement the Rafales were (simulating) only WVR heat seekers and for BVR had to use RH.
We did not get the result we wanted – we broke as soon as we heard the RWR and turned into them, But we just couldn’t detect them, that SPECTRA is really some thing as soon as they go active with that system the aircraft just vanishes of the scope.
Once we got into WVR it all went to pieces – we just couldn’t match the Rafales agility, If you turned with it we bled off to much air speed and the Rafale out accelerated us.
Our one ill was more down to a screw up by Frenchie than skill on our part.
It appears that yet again the RAFs been lumbered at 5x the cost with another BAE lemon.
Personally I say save a fortune on the F35 and fly the Rafale off the carriers. For our likely opponents its more than adequate, and maybe we can ditch the great white elephant known as Typhoon
Disappointed and disillusioned is how best to describe the squadron post exercise.流传的据说是台风中队长的博克
Lindermyer
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1
Dare 2
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maybe this interset you
From a RAF blog - was link from e goat - official RAF Forum
-yesterday i copy some text as i could not make link work - but could not post intil today
big suprise the moderator remove link to blog and the blog is gone
pilot is SQN LDR Trenchard
The exercise was a blue team interception of a Strike packages Top cover
The 2 flights consisted of 4x typhoons & 4x rafale.
We were acting as an F14 flight (no mention of whose but ..) acting as CAP for a strike group. We were conducting active sweeps the rafales had AWACS support.
In the first engagement the AWACS vectored them into our 6 position. We never heard or saw them coming. Obviously vectored by the AWACS they made a completely passive attack at long range. Those MICA are a serious threat – the MAW system completely failed to give us any warning of a launch.
阵风有预警机引导至台风后方，云母导弹静默攻击（数字导弹靠目标坐标攻击，无雷达波束引导）。台风雷达告警器完全没有探测到导弹发射。（应该是4:0)
In the second engagement the Rafales were (simulating) only WVR heat seekers and for BVR had to use RH.
We did not get the result we wanted – we broke as soon as we heard the RWR and turned into them, But we just couldn’t detect them, that SPECTRA is really some thing as soon as they go active with that system the aircraft just vanishes of the scope.
Once we got into WVR it all went to pieces – we just couldn’t match the Rafales agility, If you turned with it we bled off to much air speed and the Rafale out accelerated us.
Our one ill was more down to a screw up by Frenchie than skill on our part.
It appears that yet again the RAFs been lumbered at 5x the cost with another BAE lemon.
Personally I say save a fortune on the F35 and fly the Rafale off the carriers. For our likely opponents its more than adequate, and maybe we can ditch the great white elephant known as Typhoon
Disappointed and disillusioned is how best to describe the squadron post exercise.
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阵哄换AESA了？
阵哄换AESA了？
EF2000似乎被蹂躏得很惨啊
回复 2# fmbfmb
没有。里面提到的技术和相控阵没有关系
没有。里面提到的技术和相控阵没有关系
另外我不相信这个博克是台风中队长写的，这不符合英国人的传统。转这个博克只是因为它解释了迪拜台风-阵风演习结果（这个结果是公认的）的技术原因。
里面提到的英国宇航Bae几年前给澳大利亚f18合同制造电战干扰仓，媒体报道交货后澳大利亚发现性能差，整个项目取消，导致数亿澳元损失
那不知道歼10b跟台风比比怎么样！！！！！！
10B一定比 两风强
zhaoluyaocn 发表于 2009-12-22 08:09 
如果能再晚10年出来确实可能。。。。
如果能再晚10年出来确实可能。。。。
阵风和F14也有过一次对抗，也是完胜
台风党被打脸了！！！！！！！！！！！！
那些鼓吹台风比阵风如何如何优越的台粉们，这回看看如何自圆其说{:ya:}
那些鼓吹台风比阵风如何如何优越的台粉们，这回看看如何自圆其说{:ya:}
达索看来明年不用裁员了……
高卢鸡凶器了一把
仲卿 发表于 2009-12-22 11:02
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在背后打黑枪，公鸡那可是一点障碍都没有的
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在背后打黑枪，公鸡那可是一点障碍都没有的
zhaoluyaocn 发表于 2009-12-22 08:09
好红好红...
好红好红...
从来就不看好台风，那鬼东西实在太丑了。兄弟还专门为这家伙发过蛋疼帖……
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread. ... p;extra=&page=1
从来就不看好台风，那鬼东西实在太丑了。兄弟还专门为这家伙发过蛋疼帖……
http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread. ... p;extra=&page=1
嘿嘿，俺就是觉着阵风漂亮！