超级军网可怜的MiG-29！
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被石榴姐撵的直冒黑烟！
大波波国的MiG-29 + F-16，MS在加入北约之后，训练强度还不错！
2 Polish Air Force F-16 (4047 & 4046 ) chasing a pair of MiG 29 ( 65 , 4110 ) . Part of air combat 2 F-16 vs. 2 MiG-29 before Air Show 2009 Radom in Poland被石榴姐撵的直冒黑烟！
大波波国的MiG-29 + F-16，MS在加入北约之后，训练强度还不错！
2 Polish Air Force F-16 (4047 & 4046 ) chasing a pair of MiG 29 ( 65 , 4110 ) . Part of air combat 2 F-16 vs. 2 MiG-29 before Air Show 2009 Radom in Poland
大波波国的MiG-29 + F-16，MS在加入北约之后，训练强度还不错！
2 Polish Air Force F-16 (4047 & 4046 ) chasing a pair of MiG 29 ( 65 , 4110 ) . Part of air combat 2 F-16 vs. 2 MiG-29 before Air Show 2009 Radom in Poland被石榴姐撵的直冒黑烟！
大波波国的MiG-29 + F-16，MS在加入北约之后，训练强度还不错！
2 Polish Air Force F-16 (4047 & 4046 ) chasing a pair of MiG 29 ( 65 , 4110 ) . Part of air combat 2 F-16 vs. 2 MiG-29 before Air Show 2009 Radom in Poland
再来看看Air Show Radom 2009上白俄罗斯的那架Su-27UB
静态展示
滑行
This Su-27 is taxiing for last time. She crashed 15 minutes later after 2 minutes display killing both pilots. Nobody was hurt on the ground. You can see Midnight Hawks above
起飞
Last start Su-27 - photo was taken 13:15 local time
静态展示
滑行
This Su-27 is taxiing for last time. She crashed 15 minutes later after 2 minutes display killing both pilots. Nobody was hurt on the ground. You can see Midnight Hawks above
起飞
Last start Su-27 - photo was taken 13:15 local time
新三年旧三年缝缝补补又三年。不知道29还能玩到啥时候！
大波波国的29老趴窝。
大波波国的29老趴窝。;P
16还带着副油箱，29一架也带副油箱
苏24剑术师 发表于 2009-9-7 11:27 
听过就算，当真就未免忒实在。——有编着紧密队形狗斗的？
楼主图是Air Show，你完全可以将官兵和强盗的角色倒过来演。
听过就算，当真就未免忒实在。——有编着紧密队形狗斗的？
楼主图是Air Show，你完全可以将官兵和强盗的角色倒过来演。
:D
“被石榴姐撵的直冒黑烟！”
你认为没人撵，它就不冒黑烟吗？
“被石榴姐撵的直冒黑烟！”
你认为没人撵，它就不冒黑烟吗？
那一架也太黑了啊
[:a2:]打波波過
油品问题啊;P
千里马 发表于 2009-9-7 14:30
吃惯粗粮，一吃细粮，消化不良！
吃惯粗粮，一吃细粮，消化不良！
这个排放达标！
达什么标啊，那么多温室气体！;P
支点就是没人撵也冒黑烟
大波波的29还有多少啊
据说RD33设计的就是富油燃烧，啥航油都冒黑烟...
为什么另外一架没有？
直到现在，一看到Mig-29，还能想起<世界军事>里面的文章——利爪雄鹰！以及封面上的仰着眼镜蛇一样脖子的照片...
现在的Mig-29和当年心中的Mig-29已经相去不是里许了...
全加力应该是没有黑烟的.
曾经的经典
呵呵，很好玩的图
我的MIG-29!
据说作为front line fighter jet，
设计发动机时就是这么设计的。
可以吃超级粗的粗粮。 （精细的粮食要钱的）
设计发动机时就是这么设计的。
可以吃超级粗的粗粮。 （精细的粮食要钱的）
米格没落了
照片不错，哈哈。
偶对MIG-29屁股上的黑烟印象颇深
“dirt”, or lower grade kerosene and not pure jet fuel.
That ability is absolutely vital because on the front lines a steady supply of clean jet fuel simply can not be guaranteed, and in order to stay operational sacrifices need to be made.
With RD-33s those sacrifices are shorter life span and unavoidable smoke trail when burning dirt. Notice though, even on YouTube you’ll find plenty of clips where Fulcrums are not leaving a smoke trail, and that’s because they are burning clean fuel, it’s that simple.
Fulcrums maintenance is said to be a total nightmare, and that was said by Western techs that got to the Fulcrums after 1991.
On the contrary, just as with most Soviet equipment, Fulcrums maintenance is incredibly simple, yank out the broken part/unit and replace it with a factory fresh one.
Field maintenance is ENGENEERED into the total design, and that means easy and fast access to entire systems so they can be totally swapped out with new ones, instead of having to perform complicated rebuild/repair under enemy fire.
Fulcrums engine housings are designed to allow for a full swap with in 30 minutes. That’s the point, burn the engines out, tear it out, push in new ones, throw the bird back into the air and send the spent engines back to the factory for a total rebuild.
At the same time, Soviets/Russians traditionally and purposefully over engineered and underrated tolerance thresholds of everything they built.
If a gear is supposed to operate at 100% stress level for its calculated life span, they built it to hold 150% stress level with additional 30% life span.
“Kit it up” in the field is another Soviet/Russian favorite. They engineer the basis with an ability to kit it up if necessary.
Soviets have been doing it this was since WWII, it’s so simple, and I just can’t get why people spend their time arguing about such elemental things with out taking a minute or two to flip back a few pages of history.
Back in WWII typical water cooled Soviet fighter engine resource was only 50 hours. Why? Because they opted for swapping the entire engine for a new one rather then wasting time on keeping a napkin clean maintenance shop simply because they might be overrun by German ground forces over the night.
How did they swap it? By sending in the ENTIRE fighter to be safely overhauled in the factory, and that’s why Soviet fighters didn’t have distinctive markings on them. The pilots replaced their fighters so often they didn’t even bother to paint their kill marks. Sometimes they painted a squadron strip, that’s about it.
Why did they send the entire fighter? Because other then required overhauls, fresh pilots had a chance to safely pick up some solo flight hours after basic training.
I can’t stand when people attempt to compare war machines like a family sedan to a pickup truck. This one got cup holders, but this one got bigger tires.
War is a matter of survival, not cup holders and tire size, and unless somebody knows what survival mode is, they’ll never understand how one has to think to survive.
I’ll put it in my own way, and I will not hide my resentment for the Falcon because it lost more pilots in failure crashes then to enemy fire.
To me MiG-29 is just like the AK-47. Both with very clear designed purpose. Simple, rugged, crude, out there to get in your face and kill you while knee deep in the mud of war.
To my knowledge and correct me if I’m wrong, not a single Fulcrum pilot died in failure/ejection crash.
That ability is absolutely vital because on the front lines a steady supply of clean jet fuel simply can not be guaranteed, and in order to stay operational sacrifices need to be made.
With RD-33s those sacrifices are shorter life span and unavoidable smoke trail when burning dirt. Notice though, even on YouTube you’ll find plenty of clips where Fulcrums are not leaving a smoke trail, and that’s because they are burning clean fuel, it’s that simple.
Fulcrums maintenance is said to be a total nightmare, and that was said by Western techs that got to the Fulcrums after 1991.
On the contrary, just as with most Soviet equipment, Fulcrums maintenance is incredibly simple, yank out the broken part/unit and replace it with a factory fresh one.
Field maintenance is ENGENEERED into the total design, and that means easy and fast access to entire systems so they can be totally swapped out with new ones, instead of having to perform complicated rebuild/repair under enemy fire.
Fulcrums engine housings are designed to allow for a full swap with in 30 minutes. That’s the point, burn the engines out, tear it out, push in new ones, throw the bird back into the air and send the spent engines back to the factory for a total rebuild.
At the same time, Soviets/Russians traditionally and purposefully over engineered and underrated tolerance thresholds of everything they built.
If a gear is supposed to operate at 100% stress level for its calculated life span, they built it to hold 150% stress level with additional 30% life span.
“Kit it up” in the field is another Soviet/Russian favorite. They engineer the basis with an ability to kit it up if necessary.
Soviets have been doing it this was since WWII, it’s so simple, and I just can’t get why people spend their time arguing about such elemental things with out taking a minute or two to flip back a few pages of history.
Back in WWII typical water cooled Soviet fighter engine resource was only 50 hours. Why? Because they opted for swapping the entire engine for a new one rather then wasting time on keeping a napkin clean maintenance shop simply because they might be overrun by German ground forces over the night.
How did they swap it? By sending in the ENTIRE fighter to be safely overhauled in the factory, and that’s why Soviet fighters didn’t have distinctive markings on them. The pilots replaced their fighters so often they didn’t even bother to paint their kill marks. Sometimes they painted a squadron strip, that’s about it.
Why did they send the entire fighter? Because other then required overhauls, fresh pilots had a chance to safely pick up some solo flight hours after basic training.
I can’t stand when people attempt to compare war machines like a family sedan to a pickup truck. This one got cup holders, but this one got bigger tires.
War is a matter of survival, not cup holders and tire size, and unless somebody knows what survival mode is, they’ll never understand how one has to think to survive.
I’ll put it in my own way, and I will not hide my resentment for the Falcon because it lost more pilots in failure crashes then to enemy fire.
To me MiG-29 is just like the AK-47. Both with very clear designed purpose. Simple, rugged, crude, out there to get in your face and kill you while knee deep in the mud of war.
To my knowledge and correct me if I’m wrong, not a single Fulcrum pilot died in failure/ejection crash.
29的发动机一贯不环保
29烧的是0号柴油，在高档位，低速的时候，加油门拉起来的时候会冒黑烟
27烧的是97号汽油，当然干净咯。而
27烧的是97号汽油，当然干净咯。而