瓦尔特保卫萨拉热窝的小遗憾

那时候的翻译比较乱，经典《虎口脱险》里那个追捕英国人的胖德国军官，一会儿是少校，一会儿是上校

南斯拉夫人民军到那里去找原装德国货,西方的突出部战役,也用M46装老虎嘛

拍的很不错，至少在故事情节上，造就了一代人的南斯拉夫情节

多少年前的电影
不能强求

话说美国的坦克大决战
拿巴顿当虎豹
拿霞飞装谢尔曼
结果感觉就是美国人打美国人
错乱啊···

不过很经典啊

“唉！太有意思了，我一到萨拉热窝就寻找瓦尔特，可是找不到。现在我要离开了，总算知道了他！”
“你说瓦尔特是谁？请告诉我他的真姓名。”
“我会告诉你的。看这座城市，他，就是瓦尔特！”

谁活着 谁就看得见
空气在颤抖 仿佛天空在燃烧....:)

肖特呼唤康德尔，肖特呼唤康德尔！

我要放大一张我表妹的照片

还是不错的片子

我的手机铃声就是《瓦》的片头曲，就是冯-迪特里希目光投向萨拉热窝时的那段音乐……

图1：被用过无数次的山墙倒塌镜头，在“瓦尔特”也用过，在“一江春水向东流”也有！
图2：康德尔和冯迪特里施
图3：在《解放》里的克鲁格，就是冯迪特里施
图4：《瓦尔特》的德军T34
图5：《巴顿》坦克打巴顿
图6：《拯救大兵》的T34版虎
图7：《解放》里的T54版虎
图8：《遥远的桥》里的豹1版黑豹

我就没在任何电影里看到过德国原版坦克。
半履带也多半是捷克D版OT58

总的说还是苏联严谨，T54版的履带是仿虎的履带，而不是原T54的，美国佬T34版履带太特征了。
突出部，巴顿，巴黎在燃烧吗，遥远的桥，这一时期的西方战争片演员好，音乐好，但是道具太差。
只有不列颠空战比较严谨，感谢佛朗哥了。
德国坦克是有收藏的，但是至今没有用于电影，可能太珍贵了。还有就是飞机，没有装
英国发动机的西班牙空军的老爷机109，111，不列颠也拍不成。

可是西班牙空军的109在不列颠空战里是当喷火用的

人家在部分影视剧好歹还想到要装模作样的伪装一下，我们那些知名大导们捣出来的影视剧能让你找错找到吐血。诸如共军配AK，国军配MP-5这样的事大家应该还记得吧？

先回瘌痢兄:D ：
《不列颠》里面确实是109，不过这是西班牙空军借来的，西空还派了一个司令还是什么将军协助，
有109，111和52，不过109换了默林发动机，显得机头比较胖。英国方面找飓风难，因为是布蒙皮，可飞的没有，只能地面（影片开头一段），喷火是足够的。
图1：题头，音乐很喜欢，但愿不是霍尔斯特威赛尔。是52，凯塞林视察部队
图2：111
图3：法国撤退时的飓风
图4：英俊的哈姆雷特，这是已经是老头儿了，演道丁司令的劳伦斯奥利佛
图5：中国观众不认识这两个不应该
图6：默林的109
图7：歪头111
图8：帝国元帅一点也不像，不能找个胖子就是戈林，找个瘦子就是戈培尔。西方电影特型演员之大问题-不像。远差于苏联。

回翻1兄：
不能一概而论，大的如《突出部》《巴顿》都是涂一个十字就是德国坦克，小的如我们小时候看的《加里森》，也是用原装GMC十轮大卡装OPEL，笑话嘛。
大决战《淮海》的AK应是事故，这么多老枪，非出这么个笑话。
不过老国片里面，文革前的因为运输大队长的功劳，什么都有，文革后老电影我很钦佩《西安事变》，居然有Ju52和波音247！！！可见导演之严谨，不知道怎么做的，模型还是真的，中国似没有52和247

去看看《攻克柏林》，还有老版本的《斯大林格勒战役》，那才叫过瘾！都是原装货
仔细回味一下老版本的《南征北战》，那里面的道具才是真家伙
有时候还是老片子耐看啊

歌颂瓦尔特同志不就是在拍铁托马屁么{:3_97:}

苏禄国王与中国皇帝道具也很好

按照wiki，ju52还是应该有的
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52
这里说ju52是作为邮政机来用的
http://www.ju52-3m.ch/about.htm
It served as a mail carrier in China, and, fitted with floats, hauled lumber in remote places in Canada.


boeing247按照wiki居然只有一架
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_247

China

    * Private owner operated one aircraft.

http://www.acepilots.com/pioneer/boeing_247.html
One 247D went to China, purchased by young warlord Chang Hsueh-liang, called the “Young Marshal,” where it played a key role in a remarkable incident of the Sino-Japanese War.

Called Bai-Ying or “White Eagle,” it brought about a suspension of the civil war and allowed the Red and Nationalist armies to join forces against Japan. In 1935, Chang bought the stock Boeing as his personal transport. Chang Hsueh-liang, while an autonomous warlord, had been staunchly anti-Japanese and anti-Communist. When the Japanese (with Chiang Kai-shek's connivance) drove his  Tungpei Army out of its home area, Manchuria, in 1935 it was seriously weakened. Next, he encountered Mao's Red army and was captured.

To Chang's surprise, the Communists did not massacre their many prisoners. Instead, the Manchurian troops were given a short but intense, anti-Japanese indoctrination and sent back to their units. Deeply
impressed, Chang immediately flew in his Boeing 247 to the Red capital in Yenan and signed an immediate secret truce. Then, when Chiang Kai-shek came to the Young Marshal headquarters in Sian, Chang Hsueh-liang’s bodyguard invested Chiang Kai-shek’s quarters and arrested the Generalissimo. Within hours, army units across China declared for the mutineers.

Chang dispatched his Boeing to fetch the Communists from Yenan and other warlords. The Reds proposed Chiang Kai-shek  call a truce to the civil war and that all factions wage immediate war on Japan under his leadership. As part of the deal, Chiang Kai-shek was released, and he kept his promise. But he never forgave Chang Hsueh-liang. When the honorable Young Marshal flew to Nanking in his Boeing and surrendered to Chiang by way of apology for his conduct at Sian, the Generalissimo had him imprisoned. The KMT even took him with them when they fled to Taiwan, where he remained in prison well into the 1990s.
这个要是保留下来的也算是奇迹了

回翻1兄：
不能一概而论，大的如《突出部》《巴顿》都是涂一个十字就是德国坦克，小的如我们小时候看的《加里森》，也是用原装GMC十轮大卡装OPEL，笑话嘛。
大决战《淮海》的AK应是事故，这么多老枪，非出这么个笑 ...
造汽 发表于 2009-6-5 14:50

按照wiki，ju52还是应该有的
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52
这里说ju52是作为邮政机来用的
http://www.ju52-3m.ch/about.htm
It served as a mail carrier in China, and, fitted with floats, hauled lumber in remote places in Canada.


boeing247按照wiki居然只有一架
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_247

China

    * Private owner operated one aircraft.

http://www.acepilots.com/pioneer/boeing_247.html
One 247D went to China, purchased by young warlord Chang Hsueh-liang, called the “Young Marshal,” where it played a key role in a remarkable incident of the Sino-Japanese War.

Called Bai-Ying or “White Eagle,” it brought about a suspension of the civil war and allowed the Red and Nationalist armies to join forces against Japan. In 1935, Chang bought the stock Boeing as his personal transport. Chang Hsueh-liang, while an autonomous warlord, had been staunchly anti-Japanese and anti-Communist. When the Japanese (with Chiang Kai-shek's connivance) drove his  Tungpei Army out of its home area, Manchuria, in 1935 it was seriously weakened. Next, he encountered Mao's Red army and was captured.

To Chang's surprise, the Communists did not massacre their many prisoners. Instead, the Manchurian troops were given a short but intense, anti-Japanese indoctrination and sent back to their units. Deeply
impressed, Chang immediately flew in his Boeing 247 to the Red capital in Yenan and signed an immediate secret truce. Then, when Chiang Kai-shek came to the Young Marshal headquarters in Sian, Chang Hsueh-liang’s bodyguard invested Chiang Kai-shek’s quarters and arrested the Generalissimo. Within hours, army units across China declared for the mutineers.

Chang dispatched his Boeing to fetch the Communists from Yenan and other warlords. The Reds proposed Chiang Kai-shek  call a truce to the civil war and that all factions wage immediate war on Japan under his leadership. As part of the deal, Chiang Kai-shek was released, and he kept his promise. But he never forgave Chang Hsueh-liang. When the honorable Young Marshal flew to Nanking in his Boeing and surrendered to Chiang by way of apology for his conduct at Sian, the Generalissimo had him imprisoned. The KMT even took him with them when they fled to Taiwan, where he remained in prison well into the 1990s.
这个要是保留下来的也算是奇迹了

有个叫《苏捷斯卡战役》，铁托是英国理查德伯顿演的，（铁托自己跟英国关系很好，连《解放》里都有反映），其它许多演员都在《瓦尔特》中出现过。

军衔翻译问题比叫多，比如《逃出索比堡》里面SS看守人员的军衔被一律翻成“中士”。

超级经典的老片，看了很多遍，那些道具的问题瑕不掩瑜。

拍的很不错

我周围看过的人，只要是男人，说起这部电影没有一个人认为不经典！

问一个多年没有解决的事
哪有经过修复的高清晰DVD版 渴求啊....[:a2:]

野外游击战版《桥》也是巴塔 日沃伊诺维奇的。
巴塔还演过《出租车司机》，《深入敌后》里面演一土匪头座山雕。

另外对S.尼古莱斯库的电影还有印象吗？摩多万警长。

野外游击战版《桥》也是巴塔 日沃伊诺维奇的。
巴塔还演过《出租车司机》，《深入敌后》里面演一土匪头座山雕。

另外对S.尼古莱斯库的电影还有印象吗？摩多万警长。

看到警察局的特务到酒吧监视伊万，临走还不忘给柜台留下酒钱，看人家，觉悟多高！
模范警察，哈哈

造汽 发表于 2009-6-5 22:50

我知道这个问题所以我说是部分影视作品而非全部。

30# 造汽

这是一三部曲片，分别为≤一个警官的自白≥、≤复仇≥、≤最后一颗子弹≥国内都放过，但看过第一部的不多。

回30楼造气
当然看过 中央台电影传奇还放过他的专访 已经70多了
这老头真牛 编 导 演全来
沸腾的生活 勇敢的米哈依 还有印象吗
个人觉得复仇里面他玩帅耍酷有点过了 太个人英雄主义了...:)

谁活着谁就看得见。

比肖夫太帅了~~

罗马尼亚的在乡村与铁卫军斗争的那部片叫什么? 有没有下载? 有在阁楼用ZB26扫射的

开始看的《最后一颗子弹》，以为那个警长是副警长接班呢。后来才看的前传。
《复仇》也是，先引进的续集。不过前传的结局是安排摩多万死了，好几支MP38冲他扫。《复仇》里，医生把取出的子弹交给他，摩多万说：“才5颗？我以为不止这些呢。”
“是不止，留在身体里的就5颗。”
——这位生命力超强！

36# 霹雳贝贝

比肖夫那个枣核小脑壳怎么酷啊？
哈根中校和冯菲尔森是一个演员，老头。
知道康德尔配音是谁？葛优他爹！

下面是三个莫德尔
真的，《解放》的，《遥远的桥》的，看出苏联对于演员特型的要求远高于西方，
《巴黎在燃烧吗》里面莫德尔更不堪。
《巴黎》里肖尔铁茨的演员在《最长一天》里仅仅是个起码打水的中士，但在007《金手指》里演坏一号

一些特型，大家看像不像

一些特型，大家看像不像