“弹道导弹打HM” 邱贞玮的博客文居然引起了美海军学院 ...

[:a6:] 不厚道的看成邱淑贞。

这群人选择性引用罢了，他需要什么就用什么，不管真假对错的

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行了，游民以后有免费机票了。

说到打航母，老美也心虚。
麻杆打狼哦。

游民上美帝的名单了

撅嘴的楼主终于再次出现了。

I am the original author, in the Chinese forum, I saw the message you
I'm sorry, I can only return a translation software
There is a lot of article itself is wrong, but you rarely involved in the discussion of these elements
Detection system such as you said, there is a lot of questions, the same communication system
However, the purpose of the Chinese Navy are limited, should not use the U.S. Navy's request to look at him
The purpose of the construction of the system, not with the U.S. Navy operations, but become friends with them to obtain qualifications
Friends of the strong, only the strong are possible

楼主帮我回复吧，发不上去

游民啊，你这语法要是发上去，访问学者可就当不成了。

啥都听不懂，访问啥，去了要是有美女可看还好
也是啊，太平洋总部在夏威夷，那里的草裙舞还是很有名啊
可惜还是没法搭讪，听不懂

有成为新一代PKF的潜力啊:D

原帖由 歼击机07 于 2009-4-5 00:10 发表
有成为新一代PKF的潜力啊:D

:@
贫道选的杂志方向是介绍战争如何进行，和平可夫的爆料是两条路

忘了一个博客地址，这个是那位很欣赏游民原文的美海军军事分析员的博文链接：

http://blog.usni.org/?p=1964


游民要我回复给谁呢？侬的翻译，还是美海军学院博客？

那个英文译者也是懂中文的，有啥想说的，直接写成中文，我直接PS他:victory:

国内的军事研究员也能开博客多好
我先看看人家的博客吧

原帖由 游民 于 2009-4-5 00:53 发表
国内的军事研究员也能开博客多好
我先看看人家的博客吧

可不是，Global Strategies & Transformation的总裁居然也写了回复，看样子轰动不小。

You might find interesting, and perhaps useful, the following 11 points regarding Chinese landmobile, MaRV’d, anti-ship ballistic missiles. They come from what I believe to be the only unclassified briefing on this subject (available on request), last presented publicly at the U.S. Naval War College’s China Maritime Studies Institute annual conference in December, although this issue is gaining steam in American unclassified fora.

The Tom Freeman painting on the U.S. Naval Institute web site — a burning Nimitz class aircraft carrier after an ASBM attack, is an obvious manifestation of this increased attention:

http://www.usni.org/index.asp
Maryland Artist and longtime Naval Institute supporter Tom W. Freeman says this alarming scene “came to me after talking to a friend at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab, who told me about a ballistic missile the Chinese had developed. At the time, he said we were unable to combat it. I did the painting to make the powers that be aware that this is what it might look like if a missile attacked an American carrier. I was told that it was designed to disable the carrier’s air operations, not to sink it.”

Fundamentally, Chinese ASBMs –- and China’s asymmetric strategy for “control of the sea from the shore” — have profound implications for the U.S. Navy and for American global strategy.

Recently I was asked to summarize my views on this capability:

1. China is pursuing the development of very long range, landmobile, maneuverable re-entry vehicle-equipped, anti-ship ballistic missiles — apparently part of the DF-21 family of IRBMs. This unprecedented anti-access capability has several ramifications.

2. This capability is not yet in hand, but the Chinese appear to believe that they can develop the technologies and integrate the individual systems required. In part, they are exploiting earlier Soviet and American developments. Watch for at-sea testing to gauge Chinese progress and intentions — akin to their shooting down an old satellite to make the point that they can do it.

3. China wants to thwart American global strategic mobility and power projection. Chinese ASBMs are a “keep out” capability designed to range and attack naval surface platforms, which are the centerpiece of American naval power, and the basis for the U.S. global deterrence strategy.

4. Chinese ASBMs represent a remarkably asymmetric Chinese attempt to control the sea from the shore.

5. Imagine if very long range artillery had been developed that had great range and accuracy, and was land mobile, making counterbattery fire virtually impossible. Then someone had the bright idea to turn it seaward, and make it capable of hitting a ship underway. That’s what China’s landmobile, MaRV’d anti-ship ballistic missile amounts to — extraordinarily long range coastal artillery.

6. This capability depends upon, and represents the real advent of, network warfare. These missiles have to be targeted into the general area of a naval target, where their internal guidance systems can take over. Like the Soviets before them, the Chinese are trying to solve this difficult reconnaissance-strike problem. Unlike the Soviets, the Chinese appear to believe that they can make this complex capability work.

7. For the United States, future security depends upon unimpeded naval power. Dealing with a complex, fractious, and increasingly insecure world will require being able to exploit the maritime external lines of communication. China’s development of ASBMs makes moving to and remaining in near-ashore sea areas problematic. “Getting there will be half the fun.”

8. Much depends upon whether the Chinese can succeed in developing this ASBM capability. For persistent, long term operations, the American Navy currently is based primarily on aircraft carriers and their embarked air wings. Without extraordinary efforts to provide for air-to-air refueling, naval aircraft have an effective tactical radius of less than 1,000 nautical miles. The DF-21 — a relatively short range option for this ASBM capability — has a range of approximately 1500 nautical miles.

9. The numbers are in China’s favor. Even if U.S. and allied naval defenses are perfect – every interceptor hits and destroys an inbound ASBM – naval magazines are very limited, severely limiting defense, and magazines cannot be reloaded at sea. This is a glaring deficiency, and turns high tech, network warfare into a simple battle of attrition.

10. Chinese ASBMs have dramatic implications for Joint operations, and for the other Services. No other American military operations – air, ground, or amphibious — are feasible in a region where the U.S. Navy cannot operate. The strategic intent is to put at severe risk American power projection systems built for short range, persistent operations in the Asian littoral and China’s maritime approaches. Conversely, ballistic missiles ranging American bases and en route facilities make naval operations very problematic.

11. This capability, once developed, will escalate in its sophistication and effectiveness, and proliferate widely over time, further complicating American military posture as China’s “gift that keeps on giving”.

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Warm regards,

Paul

Paul S. Giarra
President
Global Strategies & Transformation
703.615.4114
psgiarra@gsandt.net

April 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm

这个公司是个智库？它的主要资金来源是谁

弹道导弹打航母我2，3年前就提出这个建议了，当时还有人回贴说不大可信。这种连我等普通军迷都可以想到的东西专家会不懂？只不过要把idea工程化难度比较高罢了。

后来又发了个帖子，是关于中国建中型航母的，点了下动力系统问题，结果得到2个回贴整个帖子就被删除了

不想再多说什么。

游民桑邱mm赶紧开博客去吧 :D :victory: [:a2:]

原帖由 lzm2855 于 2009-4-5 01:20 发表
弹道导弹打航母我2，3年前就提出这个建议了，当时还有人回贴说不大可信。这种连我等普通军迷都可以想到的东西专家会不懂？只不过要把idea工程化难度比较高罢了。

后来又发了个帖子，是关于中国建中型航母的，点了 ...

　　航母动力系统的讨论有什么好删的？

原帖由 李药师 于 2009-4-5 01:26 发表
游民桑邱mm赶紧开博客去吧 :D :victory: [:a2:]

　　游民是MM？:L

我替乃去≡ω≡～

:D 支持游民桑

游民SAMA这次热闹了哈哈哈哈……

游民，有受邀去美国的机会否？:D ;P

原帖由 契卡主席 于 2009-4-5 11:00 发表
游民，有受邀去美国的机会否？:D ;P

费利克斯·埃德蒙多维奇·捷尔任斯基同志，你们的工作范围是不应该包括军队的，任何参与军事情报活动的企图都会遭到格鲁乌的坚决反对
现在你必须做出选择，是派几个燕子来诱惑我，还是用100万美元的支票来收买我

原帖由 雪千寻 于 2009-4-5 10:56 发表
游民SAMA这次热闹了哈哈哈哈……

雪版也不加个亮，游民对海版的贡献可不小。看看，一些有深度的个人见地都在海外权威机构肯定了。:victory: ;P

原帖由 游民 于 2009-4-5 01:06 发表
这个公司是个智库？它的主要资金来源是谁

很多组织表面叫直哭，底下干啥，钱哪来就不是很清楚了[:a6:]

楼上帮我问那个翻译要个邮箱吧，我把带图片的全文发给他

原帖由 游民 于 2009-4-5 11:37 发表
楼上帮我问那个翻译要个邮箱吧，我把带图片的全文发给他

已经PM你~

原帖由 7071020 于 2009-4-5 10:18 发表
:D  

[:a13:] [:a13:] [:a13:]:Q :Q :Q
肠胃刚恢复就看到这个………………

哇，我进来拜大神了。。。。。。。没想到游民大大居然在美国出名了

坏了。md要抄袭楼主思路建造反舰系统，严重威胁我在建特大型海上武器系统。

好强~~~~~~~~~~~~确实分析的很专业~

呵呵，看来我和F在老舰船的辩论开始开花结果了。。。

ferret：

今天对当年的辩论是否还有新的看法？？？

也不妄我，夜以继日的与F辩论一年啊。。。今天许多当年我所设想的系统正在逐渐成为现实。。。

知道真相的某人肆无忌惮的围观中