超级军网印度su-30的真面目（巴基斯坦防务网站的文章）
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he Su27 was originally designed as air superiority fighter mainly for air to air combat. The same time Mig 29 has the similar aerodynamic configuration, but with a shorter range (although still pretty good) and less payload. In the late 80’s and 90’s Soviet Union collapsed and the Sukhoi design bureau lost its founding and ordering from the government. In order to survive Sukhoi modified the su27 to su30, there are a bunch of version, like mkk for China and mki for India, the one India government ordered have canard and vector thrust system. China simply rejected the mki and chose the more mkk for several reasons, first, the SU30 was modified as a dual role fighter bomber just like the F15E, but Sukhoi didn’t have the time and funding to make it a better combination, the SU30 has 2 pilots, modified structure is heavier, and aerodynamic performance was also compromised to ground attack. Secondly, it can load with multi air to surface or air to ship weapons, but the radar and avionic system was not modified properly, which means it has only one efficient mode: air to air, for air to ground or ship modes was simply missing. although the engine thrust was improved a little bit. But the weight increase offset the engine improvement. The SU27/27sk is still the best in air to air combat. The Russian air force didn’t even ordered su30, what they are waiting for is the Su34 which has 2 pilots (side by side) to replace the Su24 as the long range attacking/bomber. So in the Russia air force the SU27 series is for the air to air combat and Su24/34 are for the long range attack missions. In China, the J10, J11, Su27 are for the air to air combat. And it already proved that J-10 is much better than Su27; the FBC-1/1A and the SU30MKK are for the air to ground and air to ship attack missions and you can see this is the same as the Russians.
India ordered 140 Su30mki in the late 90’s, and now it seems to increase the order to 190 but so far only 70 has arrived. The India government makes the payment so slow and Russian only delivered the aircraft when they see cash. As you already known, India use SU30MKI as air superiority aircraft, since it doesn’t has the air to ground capabilities, it can load the weapon which India government have shown you, but it couldn’t find the target.
The India airforce also have Mirage 2000, the technology is about 20 years old, the engine is of low thrust due to the limitation of the French engine technologies and aerodynamic is not as good as F16 nor the JF17 due to its tailless design. The Mig29 not in good shape due to poor maintenance. So they don’t’ have the so called air superiority over Pakistan.
Pakistan already have 4 JF17 as you have seen, the avionics are so advanced, if you look at India SU30mki you side by side you will see how the technology have changed. India claimed they can improve the avionics for the Su30mki, as they have claimed similar things for many years. Don’t expect it will happen in the next 50 years.
According to the agreements between Pak and China, 36 J-10 will be delivered to Pak air force; in case of emergency can “borrow” J-10 from PLA air force directly. J10 has been undergone extensive test flights and exercises in China, it shows the J-10 have clearly an upper hand against Su27 and remember Su27 is still better than the SU30.
India is a poor country and it is pouring money into the military, although it has many goals, but it was limited by budget and India leader’s views. Su30mki was not a very good choice for air to air combat, it is a dual role fighter bomber, it is better than mirage2k and mig29, in terms of aerodynamic performance, it still has problems like, the avionics are a generation away from Pak JF17’s on board system.
For Mirage2k and Mig29, these are the 80’s technologies, and have had no upgrading or what so ever, India claimed they “can” upgrade the avionics and “will” be done in xxxx years, no one believe that. Fro SU30MKI, don’t even have to worry about that, J-10’s are enough, and Su30mki’s maintenance is another nightmare for India, cost so much money, and Russians charging for everything, that is why so far India only got less than 70 after almost 10 years since they sign the purchasing deal.
So, Indians please stop bull shxtting here, and face the fact.
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he Su27 was originally designed as air superiority fighter mainly for air to air combat. The same time Mig 29 has the similar aerodynamic configuration, but with a shorter range (although still pretty good) and less payload. In the late 80’s and 90’s Soviet Union collapsed and the Sukhoi design bureau lost its founding and ordering from the government. In order to survive Sukhoi modified the su27 to su30, there are a bunch of version, like mkk for China and mki for India, the one India government ordered have canard and vector thrust system. China simply rejected the mki and chose the more mkk for several reasons, first, the SU30 was modified as a dual role fighter bomber just like the F15E, but Sukhoi didn’t have the time and funding to make it a better combination, the SU30 has 2 pilots, modified structure is heavier, and aerodynamic performance was also compromised to ground attack. Secondly, it can load with multi air to surface or air to ship weapons, but the radar and avionic system was not modified properly, which means it has only one efficient mode: air to air, for air to ground or ship modes was simply missing. although the engine thrust was improved a little bit. But the weight increase offset the engine improvement. The SU27/27sk is still the best in air to air combat. The Russian air force didn’t even ordered su30, what they are waiting for is the Su34 which has 2 pilots (side by side) to replace the Su24 as the long range attacking/bomber. So in the Russia air force the SU27 series is for the air to air combat and Su24/34 are for the long range attack missions. In China, the J10, J11, Su27 are for the air to air combat. And it already proved that J-10 is much better than Su27; the FBC-1/1A and the SU30MKK are for the air to ground and air to ship attack missions and you can see this is the same as the Russians.
India ordered 140 Su30mki in the late 90’s, and now it seems to increase the order to 190 but so far only 70 has arrived. The India government makes the payment so slow and Russian only delivered the aircraft when they see cash. As you already known, India use SU30MKI as air superiority aircraft, since it doesn’t has the air to ground capabilities, it can load the weapon which India government have shown you, but it couldn’t find the target.
The India airforce also have Mirage 2000, the technology is about 20 years old, the engine is of low thrust due to the limitation of the French engine technologies and aerodynamic is not as good as F16 nor the JF17 due to its tailless design. The Mig29 not in good shape due to poor maintenance. So they don’t’ have the so called air superiority over Pakistan.
Pakistan already have 4 JF17 as you have seen, the avionics are so advanced, if you look at India SU30mki you side by side you will see how the technology have changed. India claimed they can improve the avionics for the Su30mki, as they have claimed similar things for many years. Don’t expect it will happen in the next 50 years.
According to the agreements between Pak and China, 36 J-10 will be delivered to Pak air force; in case of emergency can “borrow” J-10 from PLA air force directly. J10 has been undergone extensive test flights and exercises in China, it shows the J-10 have clearly an upper hand against Su27 and remember Su27 is still better than the SU30.
India is a poor country and it is pouring money into the military, although it has many goals, but it was limited by budget and India leader’s views. Su30mki was not a very good choice for air to air combat, it is a dual role fighter bomber, it is better than mirage2k and mig29, in terms of aerodynamic performance, it still has problems like, the avionics are a generation away from Pak JF17’s on board system.
For Mirage2k and Mig29, these are the 80’s technologies, and have had no upgrading or what so ever, India claimed they “can” upgrade the avionics and “will” be done in xxxx years, no one believe that. Fro SU30MKI, don’t even have to worry about that, J-10’s are enough, and Su30mki’s maintenance is another nightmare for India, cost so much money, and Russians charging for everything, that is why so far India only got less than 70 after almost 10 years since they sign the purchasing deal.
So, Indians please stop bull shxtting here, and face the fact.
Cheers
he Su27 was originally designed as air superiority fighter mainly for air to air combat. The same time Mig 29 has the similar aerodynamic configuration, but with a shorter range (although still pretty good) and less payload. In the late 80’s and 90’s Soviet Union collapsed and the Sukhoi design bureau lost its founding and ordering from the government. In order to survive Sukhoi modified the su27 to su30, there are a bunch of version, like mkk for China and mki for India, the one India government ordered have canard and vector thrust system. China simply rejected the mki and chose the more mkk for several reasons, first, the SU30 was modified as a dual role fighter bomber just like the F15E, but Sukhoi didn’t have the time and funding to make it a better combination, the SU30 has 2 pilots, modified structure is heavier, and aerodynamic performance was also compromised to ground attack. Secondly, it can load with multi air to surface or air to ship weapons, but the radar and avionic system was not modified properly, which means it has only one efficient mode: air to air, for air to ground or ship modes was simply missing. although the engine thrust was improved a little bit. But the weight increase offset the engine improvement. The SU27/27sk is still the best in air to air combat. The Russian air force didn’t even ordered su30, what they are waiting for is the Su34 which has 2 pilots (side by side) to replace the Su24 as the long range attacking/bomber. So in the Russia air force the SU27 series is for the air to air combat and Su24/34 are for the long range attack missions. In China, the J10, J11, Su27 are for the air to air combat. And it already proved that J-10 is much better than Su27; the FBC-1/1A and the SU30MKK are for the air to ground and air to ship attack missions and you can see this is the same as the Russians.
India ordered 140 Su30mki in the late 90’s, and now it seems to increase the order to 190 but so far only 70 has arrived. The India government makes the payment so slow and Russian only delivered the aircraft when they see cash. As you already known, India use SU30MKI as air superiority aircraft, since it doesn’t has the air to ground capabilities, it can load the weapon which India government have shown you, but it couldn’t find the target.
The India airforce also have Mirage 2000, the technology is about 20 years old, the engine is of low thrust due to the limitation of the French engine technologies and aerodynamic is not as good as F16 nor the JF17 due to its tailless design. The Mig29 not in good shape due to poor maintenance. So they don’t’ have the so called air superiority over Pakistan.
Pakistan already have 4 JF17 as you have seen, the avionics are so advanced, if you look at India SU30mki you side by side you will see how the technology have changed. India claimed they can improve the avionics for the Su30mki, as they have claimed similar things for many years. Don’t expect it will happen in the next 50 years.
According to the agreements between Pak and China, 36 J-10 will be delivered to Pak air force; in case of emergency can “borrow” J-10 from PLA air force directly. J10 has been undergone extensive test flights and exercises in China, it shows the J-10 have clearly an upper hand against Su27 and remember Su27 is still better than the SU30.
India is a poor country and it is pouring money into the military, although it has many goals, but it was limited by budget and India leader’s views. Su30mki was not a very good choice for air to air combat, it is a dual role fighter bomber, it is better than mirage2k and mig29, in terms of aerodynamic performance, it still has problems like, the avionics are a generation away from Pak JF17’s on board system.
For Mirage2k and Mig29, these are the 80’s technologies, and have had no upgrading or what so ever, India claimed they “can” upgrade the avionics and “will” be done in xxxx years, no one believe that. Fro SU30MKI, don’t even have to worry about that, J-10’s are enough, and Su30mki’s maintenance is another nightmare for India, cost so much money, and Russians charging for everything, that is why so far India only got less than 70 after almost 10 years since they sign the purchasing deal.
So, Indians please stop bull shxtting here, and face the fact.
Cheers地址http://pakistanidefenceforum.com//index.php?showtopic=70763
he Su27 was originally designed as air superiority fighter mainly for air to air combat. The same time Mig 29 has the similar aerodynamic configuration, but with a shorter range (although still pretty good) and less payload. In the late 80’s and 90’s Soviet Union collapsed and the Sukhoi design bureau lost its founding and ordering from the government. In order to survive Sukhoi modified the su27 to su30, there are a bunch of version, like mkk for China and mki for India, the one India government ordered have canard and vector thrust system. China simply rejected the mki and chose the more mkk for several reasons, first, the SU30 was modified as a dual role fighter bomber just like the F15E, but Sukhoi didn’t have the time and funding to make it a better combination, the SU30 has 2 pilots, modified structure is heavier, and aerodynamic performance was also compromised to ground attack. Secondly, it can load with multi air to surface or air to ship weapons, but the radar and avionic system was not modified properly, which means it has only one efficient mode: air to air, for air to ground or ship modes was simply missing. although the engine thrust was improved a little bit. But the weight increase offset the engine improvement. The SU27/27sk is still the best in air to air combat. The Russian air force didn’t even ordered su30, what they are waiting for is the Su34 which has 2 pilots (side by side) to replace the Su24 as the long range attacking/bomber. So in the Russia air force the SU27 series is for the air to air combat and Su24/34 are for the long range attack missions. In China, the J10, J11, Su27 are for the air to air combat. And it already proved that J-10 is much better than Su27; the FBC-1/1A and the SU30MKK are for the air to ground and air to ship attack missions and you can see this is the same as the Russians.
India ordered 140 Su30mki in the late 90’s, and now it seems to increase the order to 190 but so far only 70 has arrived. The India government makes the payment so slow and Russian only delivered the aircraft when they see cash. As you already known, India use SU30MKI as air superiority aircraft, since it doesn’t has the air to ground capabilities, it can load the weapon which India government have shown you, but it couldn’t find the target.
The India airforce also have Mirage 2000, the technology is about 20 years old, the engine is of low thrust due to the limitation of the French engine technologies and aerodynamic is not as good as F16 nor the JF17 due to its tailless design. The Mig29 not in good shape due to poor maintenance. So they don’t’ have the so called air superiority over Pakistan.
Pakistan already have 4 JF17 as you have seen, the avionics are so advanced, if you look at India SU30mki you side by side you will see how the technology have changed. India claimed they can improve the avionics for the Su30mki, as they have claimed similar things for many years. Don’t expect it will happen in the next 50 years.
According to the agreements between Pak and China, 36 J-10 will be delivered to Pak air force; in case of emergency can “borrow” J-10 from PLA air force directly. J10 has been undergone extensive test flights and exercises in China, it shows the J-10 have clearly an upper hand against Su27 and remember Su27 is still better than the SU30.
India is a poor country and it is pouring money into the military, although it has many goals, but it was limited by budget and India leader’s views. Su30mki was not a very good choice for air to air combat, it is a dual role fighter bomber, it is better than mirage2k and mig29, in terms of aerodynamic performance, it still has problems like, the avionics are a generation away from Pak JF17’s on board system.
For Mirage2k and Mig29, these are the 80’s technologies, and have had no upgrading or what so ever, India claimed they “can” upgrade the avionics and “will” be done in xxxx years, no one believe that. Fro SU30MKI, don’t even have to worry about that, J-10’s are enough, and Su30mki’s maintenance is another nightmare for India, cost so much money, and Russians charging for everything, that is why so far India only got less than 70 after almost 10 years since they sign the purchasing deal.
So, Indians please stop bull shxtting here, and face the fact.
Cheers
我英语是二把刀;P 大致看了看，小巴认为，阿三把Su30MKI当专职制空战斗机是错误的，制空任务应该由Su27和歼10担当，30应该拿来做战斗轰炸机轰炸和反舰
在Su27的最初目的是作为空中优势战斗机主要用于空空作战。 The same time Mig 29 has the similar aerodynamic configuration, but with a shorter range (although still pretty good) and less payload.同时米格29的气动外形相似，但用更短的范围（但仍相当不错）和较少的有效载荷。 In the late 80’s and 90’s Soviet Union collapsed and the Sukhoi design bureau lost its founding and ordering from the government.在80年代末和90年代苏联解体和苏霍伊设计局就失去了其成立，并命令政府。 In order to survive Sukhoi modified the su27 to su30, there are a bunch of version, like mkk for China and mki for India, the one India government ordered have canard and vector thrust system.为了生存苏霍伊修改su27以su30 ，有好多的版本，如mkk的mki中国和印度，一个印度政府下令有鸭和矢量推力系统。 China simply rejected the mki and chose the more mkk for several reasons, first, the SU30 was modified as a dual role fighter bomber just like the F15E, but Sukhoi didn’t have the time and funding to make it a better combination, the SU30 has 2 pilots, modified structure is heavier, and aerodynamic performance was also compromised to ground attack.中国只是拒绝mki ，选择了更mkk有几个原因：第一，修改了SU30作为一个双重角色战斗轰炸机就像F15E ，但苏霍伊没有时间和资金，使其更好的组合， SU30有2个飞行员，修改结构是重，和空气动力学性能也损害到地面攻击。 Secondly, it can load with multi air to surface or air to ship weapons, but the radar and avionic system was not modified properly, which means it has only one efficient mode: air to air, for air to ground or ship modes was simply missing.其次，它可以载入多空气表面或空中运送武器，但雷达和航空电子系统是没有适当的修改，这意味着它只有一个有效模式：空对空，空中向地面或船舶模式只是失踪。 although the engine thrust was improved a little bit.虽然发动机推力提高一点。 But the weight increase offset the engine improvement.但体重增长抵消了发动机的改进。 The SU27/27sk is still the best in air to air combat.该SU27/27sk仍是最好的空对空作战。 The Russian air force didn’t even ordered su30, what they are waiting for is the Su34 which has 2 pilots (side by side) to replace the Su24 as the long range attacking/bomber.俄罗斯空军甚至没有下令su30 ，他们正在等待的是Su34其中有2个飞行员（并排） ，以取代Su24作为远距离攻击/轰炸机。 So in the Russia air force the SU27 series is for the air to air combat and Su24/34 are for the long range attack missions.因此，在俄罗斯空军的SU27系列是空对空打击和Su24/34是远程攻击任务。 In China, the J10, J11, Su27 are for the air to air combat.在中国的J10 ， J11 ， Su27用于空对空作战。 And it already proved that J-10 is much better than Su27; the FBC-1/1A and the SU30MKK are for the air to ground and air to ship attack missions and you can see this is the same as the Russians.它已经证明了这一点的J - 10是明显优于Su27 ;的FBC-1/1A和SU30MKK是空气的地面和空中对舰攻击任务，你可以看到，这是一样的俄国人。
India ordered 140 Su30mki in the late 90’s, and now it seems to increase the order to 190 but so far only 70 has arrived.印度订购140 Su30mki在90年代后期，现在看来，增加以190但到目前为止，只有70个已经到来。 The India government makes the payment so slow and Russian only delivered the aircraft when they see cash.印度政府提出支付如此缓慢和俄罗斯唯一的飞机交付时，他们看到现金。 As you already known, India use SU30MKI as air superiority aircraft, since it doesn’t has the air to ground capabilities, it can load the weapon which India government have shown you, but it couldn’t find the target.正如你已经知道，印度使用SU30MKI作为空中优势的飞机，因为它不拥有空中到地面的能力，它可以负荷的武器，而印度政府已经表明您，但无法找到目标。
The India airforce also have Mirage 2000, the technology is about 20 years old, the engine is of low thrust due to the limitation of the French engine technologies and aerodynamic is not as good as F16 nor the JF17 due to its tailless design.印度空军也有幻影2000 ，该技术是20岁，发动机推力低原因的限制，法国发动机技术和空气动力学不如F16或JF17由于其tailless设计。 The Mig29 not in good shape due to poor maintenance.该Mig29不理想由于保养不善。 So they don’t’ have the so called air superiority over Pakistan.因此，他们不'有所谓的空中优势超过巴基斯坦。
Pakistan already have 4 JF17 as you have seen, the avionics are so advanced, if you look at India SU30mki you side by side you will see how the technology have changed.巴基斯坦已经有4 JF17正如你已经看到，航空电子设备非常先进，如果你看看印度SU30mki你并肩你会看到怎样的技术已经改变。 India claimed they can improve the avionics for the Su30mki, as they have claimed similar things for many years.印度声称他们可以提高电子的Su30mki ，因为他们都声称类似的东西很多年了。 Don’t expect it will happen in the next 50 years.不要指望它会在未来50年之久。
According to the agreements between Pak and China, 36 J-10 will be delivered to Pak air force; in case of emergency can “borrow” J-10 from PLA air force directly.据白之间的协议和中国， 36歼10将交付给空军利;在紧急情况下可以“借用”的J - 10空军直接联系。 J10 has been undergone extensive test flights and exercises in China, it shows the J-10 have clearly an upper hand against Su27 and remember Su27 is still better than the SU30. J10已经历了广泛的飞行试验和演习在中国，它表明了J - 10已明确了上风对Su27并记住Su27仍是优于SU30 。
India is a poor country and it is pouring money into the military, although it has many goals, but it was limited by budget and India leader’s views.印度是一个贫穷的国家，它是资金投入军事，尽管它有许多目标，但它是有限的预算和印度领导人的意见。 Su30mki was not a very good choice for air to air combat, it is a dual role fighter bomber, it is better than mirage2k and mig29, in terms of aerodynamic performance, it still has problems like, the avionics are a generation away from Pak JF17’s on board system. Su30mki没有一个很好的选择空对空打击，这是一个双重角色战斗轰炸机，这是优于mirage2k和mig29 ，在空气动力学性能，但它仍然有问题，如，航空电子设备是一代远离百JF17 ' s在董事会制度。
For Mirage2k and Mig29, these are the 80’s technologies, and have had no upgrading or what so ever, India claimed they “can” upgrade the avionics and “will” be done in xxxx years, no one believe that.对于Mirage2k和Mig29 ，这是80年代的技术，并没有什么升级或以往任何时候都如此，印度声称他们“可以”升级的航空电子设备和“将要”做年月里，没有人相信这一点。 Fro SU30MKI, don’t even have to worry about that, J-10’s are enough, and Su30mki’s maintenance is another nightmare for India, cost so much money, and Russians charging for everything, that is why so far India only got less than 70 after almost 10 years since they sign the purchasing deal.来回SU30MKI ，甚至不必担心，歼10的都不够， Su30mki的维修是另一个噩梦印度，成本这么多钱，和俄罗斯的一切收费，这就是为什么印度迄今只获得不少于70经过近10年来，他们签署了购买协议。
So, Indians please stop bull shxtting here, and face the fact.因此，印度人请停止牛市shxtting在这里，面对的事实。
Cheers干杯
India ordered 140 Su30mki in the late 90’s, and now it seems to increase the order to 190 but so far only 70 has arrived.印度订购140 Su30mki在90年代后期，现在看来，增加以190但到目前为止，只有70个已经到来。 The India government makes the payment so slow and Russian only delivered the aircraft when they see cash.印度政府提出支付如此缓慢和俄罗斯唯一的飞机交付时，他们看到现金。 As you already known, India use SU30MKI as air superiority aircraft, since it doesn’t has the air to ground capabilities, it can load the weapon which India government have shown you, but it couldn’t find the target.正如你已经知道，印度使用SU30MKI作为空中优势的飞机，因为它不拥有空中到地面的能力，它可以负荷的武器，而印度政府已经表明您，但无法找到目标。
The India airforce also have Mirage 2000, the technology is about 20 years old, the engine is of low thrust due to the limitation of the French engine technologies and aerodynamic is not as good as F16 nor the JF17 due to its tailless design.印度空军也有幻影2000 ，该技术是20岁，发动机推力低原因的限制，法国发动机技术和空气动力学不如F16或JF17由于其tailless设计。 The Mig29 not in good shape due to poor maintenance.该Mig29不理想由于保养不善。 So they don’t’ have the so called air superiority over Pakistan.因此，他们不'有所谓的空中优势超过巴基斯坦。
Pakistan already have 4 JF17 as you have seen, the avionics are so advanced, if you look at India SU30mki you side by side you will see how the technology have changed.巴基斯坦已经有4 JF17正如你已经看到，航空电子设备非常先进，如果你看看印度SU30mki你并肩你会看到怎样的技术已经改变。 India claimed they can improve the avionics for the Su30mki, as they have claimed similar things for many years.印度声称他们可以提高电子的Su30mki ，因为他们都声称类似的东西很多年了。 Don’t expect it will happen in the next 50 years.不要指望它会在未来50年之久。
According to the agreements between Pak and China, 36 J-10 will be delivered to Pak air force; in case of emergency can “borrow” J-10 from PLA air force directly.据白之间的协议和中国， 36歼10将交付给空军利;在紧急情况下可以“借用”的J - 10空军直接联系。 J10 has been undergone extensive test flights and exercises in China, it shows the J-10 have clearly an upper hand against Su27 and remember Su27 is still better than the SU30. J10已经历了广泛的飞行试验和演习在中国，它表明了J - 10已明确了上风对Su27并记住Su27仍是优于SU30 。
India is a poor country and it is pouring money into the military, although it has many goals, but it was limited by budget and India leader’s views.印度是一个贫穷的国家，它是资金投入军事，尽管它有许多目标，但它是有限的预算和印度领导人的意见。 Su30mki was not a very good choice for air to air combat, it is a dual role fighter bomber, it is better than mirage2k and mig29, in terms of aerodynamic performance, it still has problems like, the avionics are a generation away from Pak JF17’s on board system. Su30mki没有一个很好的选择空对空打击，这是一个双重角色战斗轰炸机，这是优于mirage2k和mig29 ，在空气动力学性能，但它仍然有问题，如，航空电子设备是一代远离百JF17 ' s在董事会制度。
For Mirage2k and Mig29, these are the 80’s technologies, and have had no upgrading or what so ever, India claimed they “can” upgrade the avionics and “will” be done in xxxx years, no one believe that.对于Mirage2k和Mig29 ，这是80年代的技术，并没有什么升级或以往任何时候都如此，印度声称他们“可以”升级的航空电子设备和“将要”做年月里，没有人相信这一点。 Fro SU30MKI, don’t even have to worry about that, J-10’s are enough, and Su30mki’s maintenance is another nightmare for India, cost so much money, and Russians charging for everything, that is why so far India only got less than 70 after almost 10 years since they sign the purchasing deal.来回SU30MKI ，甚至不必担心，歼10的都不够， Su30mki的维修是另一个噩梦印度，成本这么多钱，和俄罗斯的一切收费，这就是为什么印度迄今只获得不少于70经过近10年来，他们签署了购买协议。
So, Indians please stop bull shxtting here, and face the fact.因此，印度人请停止牛市shxtting在这里，面对的事实。
Cheers干杯
Indians please stop bull shxtting here
印度人请停止牛市shxtting在这里
看到这句我笑翻了
印度人请停止牛市shxtting在这里
看到这句我笑翻了
GOOGLE的翻译？太让人喷饭了。;funk
NAAS那篇访问巴基斯坦那个谁谁的文章不看
要看印度的敌人的关于印度武器评论的文章
说实话，此文基本无价值
要看印度的敌人的关于印度武器评论的文章
说实话，此文基本无价值
说的也有一定的道理
苏30MKI部署中印边界对抗歼10，不乐观:D
当真google翻译的？能翻译到这个程度真的很不错了！
是GOOGLE翻译的
我看了 笑肚子疼了
所以直接COPY来了
我看了 笑肚子疼了
所以直接COPY来了
google翻译器不断进步中。。。。 。。。。。。因为它有从使用者处吸收新词条的能力。一些special terms的翻译还的确比较专业，只是经常用的不是地方，把普通表达和术语混淆了。;P
吃吃在qq上不？
正如你已经知道，印度使用SU30MKI作为空中优势的飞机，因为它不拥有空中到地面的能力，它可以负荷的武器，而印度政府已经表明您，但无法找到目标。
这句可算是开心果啊。
这句可算是开心果啊。
原帖由 bull 于 2008-12-3 12:27 发表
吃吃在qq上不？
不在啊~~~~~~~~~~可惜，3G学霸又有什么秘密要告诉小的？