英国调查显示超过20%的穆斯林同情圣战者（转自龙腾，附 ...

五分之一的英国穆斯林同情圣战主义者，英国一家报社——太阳报的头条如是写道。这个数字来自于一项民意调查，其调查同时也涉及了巴黎恐怖袭击案件，而20%的穆斯林表示：他们对“这些离开英国加入叙利亚的年轻战士”表示出“一些”或“很多”同情......
ONE in five British Muslims sympathises with jihadists, claimed a headline in the Sun, a British tabloid. The number referred to a poll, taken in the wake of the attacks in Paris, which in fact suggested that 20% of Muslim respondents felt “some” or “a lot” of sympathy for “young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria.” Critics of what they judged a deliberate misrepresentation of Muslim feelings towards Islamic State (IS) quickly set up a Twitter hashtag, #1in5Muslims, that generated a torrent of tweets attacking the Sun. A typical example: “#1in5Muslims have to hear this BS all the time.”

五分之一的英国穆斯林同情圣战主义者，英国一家报社——太阳报的头条如是写道。这个数字来自于一项民意调查，其调查同时也涉及了巴黎恐怖袭击案件，而20%的穆斯林表示：他们对“这些离开英国加入叙利亚的年轻战士”表示出“一些”或“很多”同情。这些针对穆斯林对于伊斯兰国感想的谣言和中伤迅速在Twitter上成为热词。#1/5的穆斯林#这一词成为了对太阳报的反击/嘲讽。例如：“1/5的穆斯林必须一直聆听英国太阳报”。

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So what do Muslims around the world really think of IS? The same poll showed that 71% of Muslim Britons have “no” sympathy for expatriate British fighters, a number not so different from the 77% of other Britons who felt that way in a survey conducted in March by the same polling firm, Survation. Other post-Paris polls of Muslims have yet to appear, but Pew, a research firm that publishes annual reports of attitudes in 10 Muslim-majority countries, concluded last spring that they were “overwhelmingly negative” towards IS. It found that 99% of Lebanese and 94% of Jordanians, for instance, held “very unfavourable” views of the group. Even in Saudi Arabia, a country whose Wahhabist creed is seen as a wellspring of jihadism, there is little indulgence: in a face-to-face poll in September sponsored by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think-tank, a scant 4% of Saudi respondents expressed any degree of support for the group.

那么全球的穆斯林到底是怎么看待伊斯兰国的呢？相同的民意测验显示，71%的英国穆斯林并“不”同情这些被逐出境的战士，此情况与该公司（Survation）3月份发起的另一项针对英国人的调查（77%）结果相去不远。其他巴黎事件后对穆斯林的调查正在开展。但是一家调研公司Pew发布了对10个穆斯林为主要群体的国家的调研数据，结果表明在上个春季，他（穆斯林）们对于伊斯兰国的评价是“超乎一般的低”。比如：99%的黎巴嫩人，以及94%的约旦人，对这个组织“极度厌恶”。甚至在奉行圣战主义、以瓦哈比教义为指导的沙地阿拉伯，（这个组织）也没有获得多少支持：9月份，一个受“华盛顿近东政策研究机构”支持的面谈调查显示，不足4%的沙地受访者表示支持此组织。

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guest-nenelil25 mins ago
Those kinds of poll are probably too biased to make any conclusions. If a Western newspaper ask to a muslim if he/she has some sympathy for IS he/she will probably answer 'no', because of the infamous reputation of IS. Besides, with internet and microsoft windows private settings you'd better be careful to what you say.

游客-nenelil2 5分钟前：
这样的调查显然结论过于偏颇。如果一家西方媒体问穆斯林：他/她同情伊斯兰国吗，答案显然是“不”，因为伊斯兰国臭名昭著。另外，由于网络和微软的隐私设置，你必须注意你的发言。

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BHARAT.P.Nov 27th, 00:51
Million dollar question
How do I tell if some one is sympathetic to IS (23%) - Or is not (67%?
I find it easy to work who a Muslim is.And for them it is decapitation if they hide their identity
And is it okay to protect myself from decapitation?
Any problems telling others what I think about each prophet? and each religion?
The Shareef dont like it 对 BHARAT.P. 的回答，11月27日，03:56

BHARAT.P. 11月27日，00:51
百万美元疑问
我应该靠什么来辨别一个人对IS抱有同情（23%）或不支持（67%）？
我觉得区分一个人是否为穆斯林是容易的。对他们而言，如果他们隐藏自己的身份将遭到斩首。
保护自己免于斩首是可行的吗？
对他人讲诉自己对每个先知的看法，以及对每种宗教的看法，这样有问题吗？

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Mansoor Ijazin reply to BHARAT.P.Nov 26th, 22:35
You choose a "Jewish Encyclopedia" as your source. I choose to quote the Prophet of Islam in his own words that are considered true by every historian of consequence in history. There is no doubt in those words and there is no Ph.D. in Islamic Philosophy that could teach any different. You are an apologist for a man who orders his "Islamobots" out into the world to murder innocent people. Shame on you.

Mansoor Ijazin 回复 BHARAT.P.，11月26日, 22:35
你选择了“犹太百科全书”作为你的参考来源。我选择引用伊斯兰先知的原话，这段话被每位历史学家证实不假。那些话无需置疑，并且，没有任何伊斯兰哲学博士能够对其有另外的解释。你是个为残害世界无辜人民的“伊斯兰统治”辩护的人。真令人蒙羞。

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GomerWumphfNov 26th, 21:52
The problem is not "radical Islam". The problem is Sunni Islam. There are about 1.4 billion Sunni Muslims. If “only” 2% of Sunni Muslims are jihadists there are 28 million jihadists. From the so called “moderate” Muslims point of view the problem is that the Jihadists – ISIS, Boko Haram al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Shabaab, Taliban, et al, are exposing the Islamic plans for the world too early. The so called "moderates" would prefer to just continue massively out breeding the non-Muslim population and immigrating to non-Muslim nations until the Islamic population is large enough for Sharia to be imposed by vote. To the “moderate" Sunni Muslim when Sharia is the law of the land the ISIS like phase of operations to eliminate all non-Muslims can be carried out with victory assured. Islam is in reality just another totalitarian system of conquest and control. Muslims do not move to non-Muslim countries to assimilate. They do so to wage war. Notice that 70% of the so called “refugees” entering the EU are males of military age. Allowing them to immigrate is suicidal.

GomerWumphf，11月26日, 21:52
问题并非“极端主义伊斯兰”。问题是逊尼派穆斯林。现有约14亿逊尼派穆斯林。如果“只有”2%的逊尼派穆斯林是圣战主义者，那么其人数也有2千8百万。“温和派”穆斯林的观点是，圣战主义者——ISIS，博科圣地基地组织，穆斯林兄弟，青年党，塔利班，等等，过早暴露出穆斯林对世界的野心。那些所谓“温和派”更愿意大量生育排挤非穆斯林，以及向非穆斯林国家移民，使当地穆斯林人口足够多，以在选举的时候迫使伊斯兰教法占有一席之地。对“温和派”逊尼派穆斯林来说，当伊斯兰教法成为类似ISIS占有地的法律时，即可开展剔除非穆斯林的行动，此时胜利已被注定。伊斯兰事实上是征服和控制至上的集权系统。穆斯林并不向需要同化的非穆斯林国家移动。他们这么做只是为了发动战争。注意，70%的所谓进入欧盟的“难民”都是适于征兵的成年男子。允许他们移民相当于自杀。

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The Shareef dont like itin reply to GomerWumphfNov 27th, 04:01
Some say the problem is Christian Zionism; what say ye?
BHARAT.pNov 26th, 21:11
The whole article is written to get sympathies for the general population of muslims.
Unlike them, we do not need to behave in a savage like manner.
But - let us look a bit of history, and that will tell us where they get their principles from
' When Mohammed was telling all and sundry about the voices he had heard, an older Jewish lady would make many anti- Allah statements against Mohammed.
His answer was simple
' Who will rid me of this woman?'
and the next day the woman had been murdered
A great example to set for his followers. and that is why you get a massive 23% IS sympathizers in this poll.
BTW most young people only have mobiles now. Impossible to poll anymore - and I would imagine that there is probably a support rate of over 35% among those young people
That is only a guess - however at least I am being honest unlike the Islamic troll here

The Shareef dont like it 回复 GomerWumphf，11月27日, 04:01
有些人说，问题是基督徒的犹太复国主义。究竟如何？
BHARAT.p 11月26日, 21:11
这篇文章的目的是要获得穆斯林一般群长的赞同。
不像他们，我们不需要在 上表现的像一个野蛮人。
但是，让我们稍微回顾下历史，那将告诉我们，他们是从哪儿得到他们的信条的。
“当穆罕默德诉说他听到的所有各种声音时，一个老犹太妇女即会发出反对安拉的声明来反对穆罕默德。
他的回答很简单：‘谁帮我除去这个女人？’
第二天，这个女人就被谋杀了。”
对信徒而言这是个有力的榜样。这也为何在调查中，同情IS的人会占了23%这么大的比例的原因了。
顺便一提，大多数年轻人现在有手机。这样已经没法再继续调查了。我可以想象，很有可能在这些年轻人中间，其支持率超过35%。当然这只是猜测，然而至少，我坦诚地说，我讨厌这些伊斯兰蛮人。

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BHARAT.pin reply to BHARAT.pNov 26th, 21:53
It is also impossible to sympathies with some brings out stupid excuses - such things as colonialism or rebellion against others ( for incredibly stupid reasons)
At the moment - they have are fighting all non_Islamic peoples
What all this tells us that ' The clash of civilizations' is a very good novel.
However I have to repeat what Lee Kuan Yew said to Steven Huntington ' It is not Buddhism , or Taoism or Hinduism or Christianity who are the cause of the problem here - It is Islam and it's violence-sympathizers.
And as far as I am concerned - anyone who makes stupid excuses like - colonials or rebellion against the Russians or Indians or Americans - is ignoring the truth - and is more then likely to be one of those 23% who sympathies for IS
Would you ever get 23% sympathizers for Any other religious group terrorists???
Well There ain't terrorists using any other religions except in Islam
At least now I know where those IS recruits come from.23% of Europe's population is millions of people. 80% of Islamic countries population - now we are talking about billions

BHARAT.p 回复 BHARAT.p，11月26日, 21:53
同样无法同情那些带来愚蠢借口的人，例如殖民主义者或者针对他人的叛乱（为某些傻到家的原因）。
此时，他们正在对抗所有非伊斯兰人民。
这些告诉我们：”文明的冲突“是一本极好的 小说。
然而我必须重申李光耀对 Steven Huntington说的一句话：”并非佛教、道教、印度教或基督教造成了这个问题——而是伊斯兰和它的暴利同情者。“
对我而言，所有使用愚蠢借口的人--类似对俄罗斯人、印度人或美国人的殖民或反叛--是忽视真相的，并且也更容易成为支持IS的23%中的一员。
其他宗教恐怖组织曾经获得23%的人赞同吗？
事实上也没有任何恐怖组织不是来自伊斯兰教。
至少现在我知道IS从哪里招募人手了。23%的欧洲人相当于几百万。80%伊斯兰国家的人口-嗯，现在该以十亿这个数量级来计算了。

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BHARAT.pin reply to BHARAT.pNov 26th, 22:00
I tried to edit - impossible

BHARAT.p 回复 BHARAT.p，11月26日, 22:00
我试着编辑，但是无法操作。

guest-imoaaaaNov 26th, 18:12
Only 20-30% Muslim support is nothing to celebrate!
Sunni's and Shiites each have their own violent radical Islamic groups they sympathize with.
If they focused as much time and money building schools and pursuing modern education we'd all be far better off - especially them.
Enough medieval knowledge and behavior

游客-imoaaaa，11月26日, 18:12
只有20-30%的穆斯林支持，这没什么可庆祝的。
逊尼派和什叶派各自拥有他们所支持的暴力激进伊斯兰组织。
如果他们在建造校园和现代教育上花相同的时间和金钱，我们都会好得多-特别是对他们而言。
中世纪的知识和行为，实在是够了。

BHARAT.pin reply to guest-imoaaaaNov 26th, 20:28
And yet they love to forget history. They will blame the west for for all their troubles.
If Syria's rebels is financed by Saudi Arabia and Turkey, should we start collecting money to finance the rebellion in Yemen? and the other one in Baluchistan?
Personally, I think that we need to help them annihilate each other

BHARAT.p 回复 游客-imoaaaa，11月26日, 20:28
然而他们依旧喜欢遗忘历史。他们会将他们所有的问题归咎于西方。
如果叙利亚叛军得到沙地阿拉伯和土耳其的支援，我们应该攒钱支援也门的叛乱吗？以及俾路支斯坦？
个人认为，我们需要帮助他们自相残杀。

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The Shareef dont like itin reply to BHARAT.pNov 27th, 04:05
Don't get too cocky.
The Islamic State has well publicised plans for Hindoo India also.
See here for details http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140701/world-europe/article/islamic-state...
Free The West From The LeftNov 26th, 16:05
The left still doesn't get it. To a Muslim, no matter where he lives, Islam will always come first, then the clan, followed by family, last country. They will always support a Muslim over a non-Muslim, no matter what. Citizenship doesn't mean a thing to these people, unless it involves freebies like welfare or healthcare. The left may love Muslims, but Muslims despise them just like they despise the rest of us. Time to wake up.
The Shareef dont like it 回复 BHARAT.p，11月27日, 04:05
别太骄傲。
伊斯兰国家也是这样广泛宣传印度斯坦的意图的。
详见 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140701/world-europe/article/islamic-state...
Free The West From The Left，11月26日, 16:05
左派依然没有意识到重点。对于一个穆斯林来说，无论他在那里生活，伊斯兰永远排在首位，其次氏族，再次家庭，最后才是国家。穆斯林和非穆斯林之间，他们无论如何永远支持穆斯林。公民权对他们而言并无任何意义，除非它包括着类似福利或医保这样的免费赠品。左派可能喜欢穆斯林，但是穆斯林轻视他们，正像他们轻视我们一样。是时候觉醒了。

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guest-ioeslanin reply to Free The West From The LeftNov 26th, 16:26
You are wrong: It is not out of love for the Muslims that the left oppose their demonization; it is out of liberal principles. The left knows very well that the Muslims are conservatives and that they will oppose many liberal values (same sex marriage, for example), but principles go first.
"Islam will always come first." The same applies to Christianity (have you forgotten the clerk?) .
"Citizenship doesn't mean anything for this people".False: there are Muslims serving in the American military.
Are you a prejudiced person?

游客-ioeslanin 回复 Free The West From The Left，11月26日, 16:26
你错了：并不是由于处于对穆斯林的爱使得左翼分子妖魔化，而是出于自由的原则。左翼分子非常清醒地知道穆斯林是保守的，他们会反对任何自由价值（例如：同性婚姻），但是原则至上。“伊斯兰至上”。相同的情形在基督教也发生过（忘了小职员了吗？）“公民对这些人来说并无任何意义。”错误：美国军队里有穆斯林服役。
你是个有偏见的人吗？

BHARAT.P.in reply to guest-ioeslanNov 26th, 23:04
Don't know about him, but I am against people who sympathize with terrorists
That is 80% of Muslims in Islamic countries and 23% in Europe
Are you prejudiced against the same?

BHARAT.P.回复游客-ioeslan，11月26日, 23:04
不清楚他的状况。但是我反对那些同情恐怖分子的人。
80%伊斯兰国家的穆斯林以及23%在欧洲的穆斯林
你认为这是两个相同的群体，并怀有偏见？

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daley1686Nov 26th, 14:51
Foolish. The only ones whose opinion counts are Sunni Arabs in Syria, Iraq and surrounding states. ISIS is more of a nationalist than a religious movement. Other Muslims have other worries.

daley1686，1月26日, 14:51
愚蠢。只统计了在叙利亚、伊拉克及其周边的逊尼派阿拉伯人的观点。相比于宗教运动，ISIS更像是民族主义者。其他穆斯林有另外的担忧。

8XaAQiuY73Nov 26th, 13:23
Of course there is little sympathy. The evidence points again and again to the fact that members of IS are not highly educated in Islam, and are instead pursuing violence for glory or out of disenchantment with Western life in general https://youngeuropeansnetwork.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/what-causes-domes...

8XaAQiuY73，11月26日, 13:23
当然只有很少的同情。证据一次又一次指出事实——IS成员并非受过高等教育的伊斯兰人，而是为了荣誉追求暴利，或是对西方生活并无清醒的判断。
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http://www.ltaaa.com/wtfy/18473.html  （龙腾地址）五分之一的英国穆斯林同情圣战主义者，英国一家报社——太阳报的头条如是写道。这个数字来自于一项民意调查，其调查同时也涉及了巴黎恐怖袭击案件，而20%的穆斯林表示：他们对“这些离开英国加入叙利亚的年轻战士”表示出“一些”或“很多”同情......
ONE in five British Muslims sympathises with jihadists, claimed a headline in the Sun, a British tabloid. The number referred to a poll, taken in the wake of the attacks in Paris, which in fact suggested that 20% of Muslim respondents felt “some” or “a lot” of sympathy for “young Muslims who leave the UK to join fighters in Syria.” Critics of what they judged a deliberate misrepresentation of Muslim feelings towards Islamic State (IS) quickly set up a Twitter hashtag, #1in5Muslims, that generated a torrent of tweets attacking the Sun. A typical example: “#1in5Muslims have to hear this BS all the time.”

五分之一的英国穆斯林同情圣战主义者，英国一家报社——太阳报的头条如是写道。这个数字来自于一项民意调查，其调查同时也涉及了巴黎恐怖袭击案件，而20%的穆斯林表示：他们对“这些离开英国加入叙利亚的年轻战士”表示出“一些”或“很多”同情。这些针对穆斯林对于伊斯兰国感想的谣言和中伤迅速在Twitter上成为热词。#1/5的穆斯林#这一词成为了对太阳报的反击/嘲讽。例如：“1/5的穆斯林必须一直聆听英国太阳报”。

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So what do Muslims around the world really think of IS? The same poll showed that 71% of Muslim Britons have “no” sympathy for expatriate British fighters, a number not so different from the 77% of other Britons who felt that way in a survey conducted in March by the same polling firm, Survation. Other post-Paris polls of Muslims have yet to appear, but Pew, a research firm that publishes annual reports of attitudes in 10 Muslim-majority countries, concluded last spring that they were “overwhelmingly negative” towards IS. It found that 99% of Lebanese and 94% of Jordanians, for instance, held “very unfavourable” views of the group. Even in Saudi Arabia, a country whose Wahhabist creed is seen as a wellspring of jihadism, there is little indulgence: in a face-to-face poll in September sponsored by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think-tank, a scant 4% of Saudi respondents expressed any degree of support for the group.

那么全球的穆斯林到底是怎么看待伊斯兰国的呢？相同的民意测验显示，71%的英国穆斯林并“不”同情这些被逐出境的战士，此情况与该公司（Survation）3月份发起的另一项针对英国人的调查（77%）结果相去不远。其他巴黎事件后对穆斯林的调查正在开展。但是一家调研公司Pew发布了对10个穆斯林为主要群体的国家的调研数据，结果表明在上个春季，他（穆斯林）们对于伊斯兰国的评价是“超乎一般的低”。比如：99%的黎巴嫩人，以及94%的约旦人，对这个组织“极度厌恶”。甚至在奉行圣战主义、以瓦哈比教义为指导的沙地阿拉伯，（这个组织）也没有获得多少支持：9月份，一个受“华盛顿近东政策研究机构”支持的面谈调查显示，不足4%的沙地受访者表示支持此组织。

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guest-nenelil25 mins ago
Those kinds of poll are probably too biased to make any conclusions. If a Western newspaper ask to a muslim if he/she has some sympathy for IS he/she will probably answer 'no', because of the infamous reputation of IS. Besides, with internet and microsoft windows private settings you'd better be careful to what you say.

游客-nenelil2 5分钟前：
这样的调查显然结论过于偏颇。如果一家西方媒体问穆斯林：他/她同情伊斯兰国吗，答案显然是“不”，因为伊斯兰国臭名昭著。另外，由于网络和微软的隐私设置，你必须注意你的发言。

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BHARAT.P.Nov 27th, 00:51
Million dollar question
How do I tell if some one is sympathetic to IS (23%) - Or is not (67%?
I find it easy to work who a Muslim is.And for them it is decapitation if they hide their identity
And is it okay to protect myself from decapitation?
Any problems telling others what I think about each prophet? and each religion?
The Shareef dont like it 对 BHARAT.P. 的回答，11月27日，03:56

BHARAT.P. 11月27日，00:51
百万美元疑问
我应该靠什么来辨别一个人对IS抱有同情（23%）或不支持（67%）？
我觉得区分一个人是否为穆斯林是容易的。对他们而言，如果他们隐藏自己的身份将遭到斩首。
保护自己免于斩首是可行的吗？
对他人讲诉自己对每个先知的看法，以及对每种宗教的看法，这样有问题吗？

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Mansoor Ijazin reply to BHARAT.P.Nov 26th, 22:35
You choose a "Jewish Encyclopedia" as your source. I choose to quote the Prophet of Islam in his own words that are considered true by every historian of consequence in history. There is no doubt in those words and there is no Ph.D. in Islamic Philosophy that could teach any different. You are an apologist for a man who orders his "Islamobots" out into the world to murder innocent people. Shame on you.

Mansoor Ijazin 回复 BHARAT.P.，11月26日, 22:35
你选择了“犹太百科全书”作为你的参考来源。我选择引用伊斯兰先知的原话，这段话被每位历史学家证实不假。那些话无需置疑，并且，没有任何伊斯兰哲学博士能够对其有另外的解释。你是个为残害世界无辜人民的“伊斯兰统治”辩护的人。真令人蒙羞。

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GomerWumphfNov 26th, 21:52
The problem is not "radical Islam". The problem is Sunni Islam. There are about 1.4 billion Sunni Muslims. If “only” 2% of Sunni Muslims are jihadists there are 28 million jihadists. From the so called “moderate” Muslims point of view the problem is that the Jihadists – ISIS, Boko Haram al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Shabaab, Taliban, et al, are exposing the Islamic plans for the world too early. The so called "moderates" would prefer to just continue massively out breeding the non-Muslim population and immigrating to non-Muslim nations until the Islamic population is large enough for Sharia to be imposed by vote. To the “moderate" Sunni Muslim when Sharia is the law of the land the ISIS like phase of operations to eliminate all non-Muslims can be carried out with victory assured. Islam is in reality just another totalitarian system of conquest and control. Muslims do not move to non-Muslim countries to assimilate. They do so to wage war. Notice that 70% of the so called “refugees” entering the EU are males of military age. Allowing them to immigrate is suicidal.

GomerWumphf，11月26日, 21:52
问题并非“极端主义伊斯兰”。问题是逊尼派穆斯林。现有约14亿逊尼派穆斯林。如果“只有”2%的逊尼派穆斯林是圣战主义者，那么其人数也有2千8百万。“温和派”穆斯林的观点是，圣战主义者——ISIS，博科圣地基地组织，穆斯林兄弟，青年党，塔利班，等等，过早暴露出穆斯林对世界的野心。那些所谓“温和派”更愿意大量生育排挤非穆斯林，以及向非穆斯林国家移民，使当地穆斯林人口足够多，以在选举的时候迫使伊斯兰教法占有一席之地。对“温和派”逊尼派穆斯林来说，当伊斯兰教法成为类似ISIS占有地的法律时，即可开展剔除非穆斯林的行动，此时胜利已被注定。伊斯兰事实上是征服和控制至上的集权系统。穆斯林并不向需要同化的非穆斯林国家移动。他们这么做只是为了发动战争。注意，70%的所谓进入欧盟的“难民”都是适于征兵的成年男子。允许他们移民相当于自杀。

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The Shareef dont like itin reply to GomerWumphfNov 27th, 04:01
Some say the problem is Christian Zionism; what say ye?
BHARAT.pNov 26th, 21:11
The whole article is written to get sympathies for the general population of muslims.
Unlike them, we do not need to behave in a savage like manner.
But - let us look a bit of history, and that will tell us where they get their principles from
' When Mohammed was telling all and sundry about the voices he had heard, an older Jewish lady would make many anti- Allah statements against Mohammed.
His answer was simple
' Who will rid me of this woman?'
and the next day the woman had been murdered
A great example to set for his followers. and that is why you get a massive 23% IS sympathizers in this poll.
BTW most young people only have mobiles now. Impossible to poll anymore - and I would imagine that there is probably a support rate of over 35% among those young people
That is only a guess - however at least I am being honest unlike the Islamic troll here

The Shareef dont like it 回复 GomerWumphf，11月27日, 04:01
有些人说，问题是基督徒的犹太复国主义。究竟如何？
BHARAT.p 11月26日, 21:11
这篇文章的目的是要获得穆斯林一般群长的赞同。
不像他们，我们不需要在 上表现的像一个野蛮人。
但是，让我们稍微回顾下历史，那将告诉我们，他们是从哪儿得到他们的信条的。
“当穆罕默德诉说他听到的所有各种声音时，一个老犹太妇女即会发出反对安拉的声明来反对穆罕默德。
他的回答很简单：‘谁帮我除去这个女人？’
第二天，这个女人就被谋杀了。”
对信徒而言这是个有力的榜样。这也为何在调查中，同情IS的人会占了23%这么大的比例的原因了。
顺便一提，大多数年轻人现在有手机。这样已经没法再继续调查了。我可以想象，很有可能在这些年轻人中间，其支持率超过35%。当然这只是猜测，然而至少，我坦诚地说，我讨厌这些伊斯兰蛮人。

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BHARAT.pin reply to BHARAT.pNov 26th, 21:53
It is also impossible to sympathies with some brings out stupid excuses - such things as colonialism or rebellion against others ( for incredibly stupid reasons)
At the moment - they have are fighting all non_Islamic peoples
What all this tells us that ' The clash of civilizations' is a very good novel.
However I have to repeat what Lee Kuan Yew said to Steven Huntington ' It is not Buddhism , or Taoism or Hinduism or Christianity who are the cause of the problem here - It is Islam and it's violence-sympathizers.
And as far as I am concerned - anyone who makes stupid excuses like - colonials or rebellion against the Russians or Indians or Americans - is ignoring the truth - and is more then likely to be one of those 23% who sympathies for IS
Would you ever get 23% sympathizers for Any other religious group terrorists???
Well There ain't terrorists using any other religions except in Islam
At least now I know where those IS recruits come from.23% of Europe's population is millions of people. 80% of Islamic countries population - now we are talking about billions

BHARAT.p 回复 BHARAT.p，11月26日, 21:53
同样无法同情那些带来愚蠢借口的人，例如殖民主义者或者针对他人的叛乱（为某些傻到家的原因）。
此时，他们正在对抗所有非伊斯兰人民。
这些告诉我们：”文明的冲突“是一本极好的 小说。
然而我必须重申李光耀对 Steven Huntington说的一句话：”并非佛教、道教、印度教或基督教造成了这个问题——而是伊斯兰和它的暴利同情者。“
对我而言，所有使用愚蠢借口的人--类似对俄罗斯人、印度人或美国人的殖民或反叛--是忽视真相的，并且也更容易成为支持IS的23%中的一员。
其他宗教恐怖组织曾经获得23%的人赞同吗？
事实上也没有任何恐怖组织不是来自伊斯兰教。
至少现在我知道IS从哪里招募人手了。23%的欧洲人相当于几百万。80%伊斯兰国家的人口-嗯，现在该以十亿这个数量级来计算了。

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BHARAT.pin reply to BHARAT.pNov 26th, 22:00
I tried to edit - impossible

BHARAT.p 回复 BHARAT.p，11月26日, 22:00
我试着编辑，但是无法操作。

guest-imoaaaaNov 26th, 18:12
Only 20-30% Muslim support is nothing to celebrate!
Sunni's and Shiites each have their own violent radical Islamic groups they sympathize with.
If they focused as much time and money building schools and pursuing modern education we'd all be far better off - especially them.
Enough medieval knowledge and behavior

游客-imoaaaa，11月26日, 18:12
只有20-30%的穆斯林支持，这没什么可庆祝的。
逊尼派和什叶派各自拥有他们所支持的暴力激进伊斯兰组织。
如果他们在建造校园和现代教育上花相同的时间和金钱，我们都会好得多-特别是对他们而言。
中世纪的知识和行为，实在是够了。

BHARAT.pin reply to guest-imoaaaaNov 26th, 20:28
And yet they love to forget history. They will blame the west for for all their troubles.
If Syria's rebels is financed by Saudi Arabia and Turkey, should we start collecting money to finance the rebellion in Yemen? and the other one in Baluchistan?
Personally, I think that we need to help them annihilate each other

BHARAT.p 回复 游客-imoaaaa，11月26日, 20:28
然而他们依旧喜欢遗忘历史。他们会将他们所有的问题归咎于西方。
如果叙利亚叛军得到沙地阿拉伯和土耳其的支援，我们应该攒钱支援也门的叛乱吗？以及俾路支斯坦？
个人认为，我们需要帮助他们自相残杀。

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The Shareef dont like itin reply to BHARAT.pNov 27th, 04:05
Don't get too cocky.
The Islamic State has well publicised plans for Hindoo India also.
See here for details http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140701/world-europe/article/islamic-state...
Free The West From The LeftNov 26th, 16:05
The left still doesn't get it. To a Muslim, no matter where he lives, Islam will always come first, then the clan, followed by family, last country. They will always support a Muslim over a non-Muslim, no matter what. Citizenship doesn't mean a thing to these people, unless it involves freebies like welfare or healthcare. The left may love Muslims, but Muslims despise them just like they despise the rest of us. Time to wake up.
The Shareef dont like it 回复 BHARAT.p，11月27日, 04:05
别太骄傲。
伊斯兰国家也是这样广泛宣传印度斯坦的意图的。
详见 http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140701/world-europe/article/islamic-state...
Free The West From The Left，11月26日, 16:05
左派依然没有意识到重点。对于一个穆斯林来说，无论他在那里生活，伊斯兰永远排在首位，其次氏族，再次家庭，最后才是国家。穆斯林和非穆斯林之间，他们无论如何永远支持穆斯林。公民权对他们而言并无任何意义，除非它包括着类似福利或医保这样的免费赠品。左派可能喜欢穆斯林，但是穆斯林轻视他们，正像他们轻视我们一样。是时候觉醒了。

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guest-ioeslanin reply to Free The West From The LeftNov 26th, 16:26
You are wrong: It is not out of love for the Muslims that the left oppose their demonization; it is out of liberal principles. The left knows very well that the Muslims are conservatives and that they will oppose many liberal values (same sex marriage, for example), but principles go first.
"Islam will always come first." The same applies to Christianity (have you forgotten the clerk?) .
"Citizenship doesn't mean anything for this people".False: there are Muslims serving in the American military.
Are you a prejudiced person?

游客-ioeslanin 回复 Free The West From The Left，11月26日, 16:26
你错了：并不是由于处于对穆斯林的爱使得左翼分子妖魔化，而是出于自由的原则。左翼分子非常清醒地知道穆斯林是保守的，他们会反对任何自由价值（例如：同性婚姻），但是原则至上。“伊斯兰至上”。相同的情形在基督教也发生过（忘了小职员了吗？）“公民对这些人来说并无任何意义。”错误：美国军队里有穆斯林服役。
你是个有偏见的人吗？

BHARAT.P.in reply to guest-ioeslanNov 26th, 23:04
Don't know about him, but I am against people who sympathize with terrorists
That is 80% of Muslims in Islamic countries and 23% in Europe
Are you prejudiced against the same?

BHARAT.P.回复游客-ioeslan，11月26日, 23:04
不清楚他的状况。但是我反对那些同情恐怖分子的人。
80%伊斯兰国家的穆斯林以及23%在欧洲的穆斯林
你认为这是两个相同的群体，并怀有偏见？

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daley1686Nov 26th, 14:51
Foolish. The only ones whose opinion counts are Sunni Arabs in Syria, Iraq and surrounding states. ISIS is more of a nationalist than a religious movement. Other Muslims have other worries.

daley1686，1月26日, 14:51
愚蠢。只统计了在叙利亚、伊拉克及其周边的逊尼派阿拉伯人的观点。相比于宗教运动，ISIS更像是民族主义者。其他穆斯林有另外的担忧。

8XaAQiuY73Nov 26th, 13:23
Of course there is little sympathy. The evidence points again and again to the fact that members of IS are not highly educated in Islam, and are instead pursuing violence for glory or out of disenchantment with Western life in general https://youngeuropeansnetwork.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/what-causes-domes...

8XaAQiuY73，11月26日, 13:23
当然只有很少的同情。证据一次又一次指出事实——IS成员并非受过高等教育的伊斯兰人，而是为了荣誉追求暴利，或是对西方生活并无清醒的判断。
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