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Scenesfrom a failing economy.
来自一个衰败经济的影像
译者：金闪闪
国家：美国
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BY TIMOTHY FADEK | JUNE 6, 2012
提摩西·斐德克 2012年6月6日
Just whenyou think Greece's financial implosion can't get any worse, a new wrinkleemerges to further frighten observers worried about the country's prospects. OnTuesday, the New York Times warned thatdwindling tax proceeds could quickly leave the country out of cash, andheadlines continue to blare that Greece's "agony"won't end with new elections on June17. Greek voters face a choice between harsh austerity measures being imposedin exchange for a financial bailout or facing the bleak possibility of leavingthe eurozone entirely.
正当人们以为希腊的金融崩溃不会变得更糟时,新的波澜却加重了观察家们对于这个国家的远景展望的担忧。周二（6月5日，译者注），纽约时报警告称税收的减少将很快使希腊无货币可流通，而报纸头条继续警报说希腊的痛苦不会随着6月17日的新选举而结束。希腊选民们面临着选择：要么是为交换金融紧急救助而强加的严厉财政紧缩措施，要么是可能的彻底推出欧元区的黯淡未来。
Thirty percent of Athens shops have closed. On some streets,half the shops are shuttered. The commercial sector is in the grip of a closureepidemic which is spreading like a contagious disease. And in the heart ofcentral Athens, a stone's throw from the city'sglorious ancient sites, the tragic face of today's Greece is on display. Here, we lookat the human toll taken by the country's shocking downturn in a series ofphotographs taken in Athenson May 22-29, 2012.
30%的雅典商店已经关门歇业。某些街道上，一半的商店都门窗紧闭。商界正陷于如同传染病般流行的停业瘟疫中。在雅典中央城区的心脏地带，象征着这座城市光荣历史的遗址的石头被随意乱扔，今日希腊的苦难景象正跃然纸上。如下，我们将随着一系列2012年5月22日至29日摄于雅典的照片一起，见证这个国家令人震惊的经济衰退带给人们的伤害。
Above, heroin addicts inject drugsbehind the Athens Cultural Centeron Akademias Street in central Athens.
上图，雅典中央城区，在阿卡德米街的雅典文化中心后面，海洛因成瘾者正注射毒品。
The last Greek election, held on May6, left the country without a majority in parliament, as voters refused tosupport either of the two traditionally largest parties. After nine days oftalks failed to produce a coalition government, power-sharing talks collapsed.This new political crisis has forced current President Karolos Papoulias toappoint an interim government until the June 17 election.
5月6日的上次希腊选举中，选民们拒绝支持两个传统大党中的任何一个，使得这个国家的议会中没人占到多数席位。9天的谈判没能产生联合政府，权力分享谈判失败。这个新的政治危机迫使现任总统卡罗洛斯·帕普利亚斯在6月17日的大选前任命一个临时政府。
Above, a man fishes for coins from asidewalk rain catch.
上图，一名男子在人行道排雨沟上钓硬币。
Papoulias is meeting with all but oneof the parties that received enough votes for parliamentary seats -- theneo-Nazi group Golden Dawn was excluded from these negotiations. If Papouliascan't bring the parties to a consensus on the structure of the interimgovernment -- which is likely -- he will have to appoint one of the country'sjudges as temporary prime minister. Above, Greek men wait for fooddistribution at a Greek Orthodox church in Athens.
帕普利亚斯正与所有获得足够议会席位选票的党派商谈，除了一个——新纳粹组织金色黎明党，它被排除在磋商外。如果（很有可能地）帕普利亚斯不能使各派达成关于临时政府架构的共识，那么他将不得不任命一位大法官作为临时首相。
上图，雅典的一个希腊正教教堂，人们正等待食物救济。
Greece'sinability to form a government has observers concerned about the country'sability to implement the severe austerity measures and other changes necessaryfor it to remain within the European Union.
希腊无力组织政府，这使得观察家担心这个国家是否有能力实施严格的财政紧缩措施和其他为留在欧盟内必须进行的改变。
Above, a defaced sculpture at the universityfor art and architecture in Athens.
上图，雅典美术学院内损坏的雕塑。
Despite its controversialanti-immigrant campaign, Golden Dawn ended up garnering a surprising 7 percentof the vote. The neo-Nazi party has denied any responsibility for the recentspate of immigrant beatings. The most recent attack took place on June 2, whena group of bikers participating in a Golden Dawn rally injured a 31-year-oldPakistani bystander.
尽管其从事争议性的反移民活动，金色黎明党令人惊异地获得了7%的选票。这个新纳粹政党拒绝对最近爆发的针对移民的暴力冲突承担任何责任。最近一次袭击发生在6月2日，一群参加金色黎明集会的自行车手打伤了一位31岁的巴基斯坦裔路人。
Above, police run to head off a groupof anarchists protesting against rise of Golden Dawn.
上图，警察阻止一群无政府主义者反对金色黎明崛起的抗议活动。
Above, a homeless woman sits near Monastirakisquare. Homelessness has soared by an estimated 25 percent since 2009 and thecountry is now in its fifth straight year of recession. The officialunemployment rate is nudging 20 percent.
上图，一位无家可归的女士坐在蒙纳斯提拉奇广场边上。无家可归者数量自2009年以来已经飙升了大约25%而希腊已处在经济连续衰退的第五个年头。官方失业率数据逼近20%。
Shuttered shops line the street at night.
黑夜的街道上紧闭门窗的店铺排成行。
People line up for food distribution at a GreekOrthodox Church.
教堂里排队领取食物救济的人群。
A man holding a bouquet of flowers walks pastan abandoned building.
手捧鲜花的男子走过废弃的楼宇。
A homeless man sleeps in front of a branch ofthe National Bank .
一个无家可归者睡在一家国家银行的分行门前。
An elderly woman begs for money on the steps ofthe Bank of Greece near Syntagma Square in central Athens.
雅典中央城区的雅典宪法广场边，一位老妇人在希腊银行门前的台阶上乞讨。
A woman walks past a sleeping homeless mansleeping on the sidewalk.
一位女士从人行道边睡着的无家可归者身边经过。
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Scenesfrom a failing economy.
来自一个衰败经济的影像
译者：金闪闪
国家：美国
新闻链接：
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BY TIMOTHY FADEK | JUNE 6, 2012
提摩西·斐德克 2012年6月6日
Just whenyou think Greece's financial implosion can't get any worse, a new wrinkleemerges to further frighten observers worried about the country's prospects. OnTuesday, the New York Times warned thatdwindling tax proceeds could quickly leave the country out of cash, andheadlines continue to blare that Greece's "agony"won't end with new elections on June17. Greek voters face a choice between harsh austerity measures being imposedin exchange for a financial bailout or facing the bleak possibility of leavingthe eurozone entirely.
正当人们以为希腊的金融崩溃不会变得更糟时,新的波澜却加重了观察家们对于这个国家的远景展望的担忧。周二（6月5日，译者注），纽约时报警告称税收的减少将很快使希腊无货币可流通，而报纸头条继续警报说希腊的痛苦不会随着6月17日的新选举而结束。希腊选民们面临着选择：要么是为交换金融紧急救助而强加的严厉财政紧缩措施，要么是可能的彻底推出欧元区的黯淡未来。
Thirty percent of Athens shops have closed. On some streets,half the shops are shuttered. The commercial sector is in the grip of a closureepidemic which is spreading like a contagious disease. And in the heart ofcentral Athens, a stone's throw from the city'sglorious ancient sites, the tragic face of today's Greece is on display. Here, we lookat the human toll taken by the country's shocking downturn in a series ofphotographs taken in Athenson May 22-29, 2012.
30%的雅典商店已经关门歇业。某些街道上，一半的商店都门窗紧闭。商界正陷于如同传染病般流行的停业瘟疫中。在雅典中央城区的心脏地带，象征着这座城市光荣历史的遗址的石头被随意乱扔，今日希腊的苦难景象正跃然纸上。如下，我们将随着一系列2012年5月22日至29日摄于雅典的照片一起，见证这个国家令人震惊的经济衰退带给人们的伤害。
Above, heroin addicts inject drugsbehind the Athens Cultural Centeron Akademias Street in central Athens.
上图，雅典中央城区，在阿卡德米街的雅典文化中心后面，海洛因成瘾者正注射毒品。
The last Greek election, held on May6, left the country without a majority in parliament, as voters refused tosupport either of the two traditionally largest parties. After nine days oftalks failed to produce a coalition government, power-sharing talks collapsed.This new political crisis has forced current President Karolos Papoulias toappoint an interim government until the June 17 election.
5月6日的上次希腊选举中，选民们拒绝支持两个传统大党中的任何一个，使得这个国家的议会中没人占到多数席位。9天的谈判没能产生联合政府，权力分享谈判失败。这个新的政治危机迫使现任总统卡罗洛斯·帕普利亚斯在6月17日的大选前任命一个临时政府。
Above, a man fishes for coins from asidewalk rain catch.
上图，一名男子在人行道排雨沟上钓硬币。
Papoulias is meeting with all but oneof the parties that received enough votes for parliamentary seats -- theneo-Nazi group Golden Dawn was excluded from these negotiations. If Papouliascan't bring the parties to a consensus on the structure of the interimgovernment -- which is likely -- he will have to appoint one of the country'sjudges as temporary prime minister. Above, Greek men wait for fooddistribution at a Greek Orthodox church in Athens.
帕普利亚斯正与所有获得足够议会席位选票的党派商谈，除了一个——新纳粹组织金色黎明党，它被排除在磋商外。如果（很有可能地）帕普利亚斯不能使各派达成关于临时政府架构的共识，那么他将不得不任命一位大法官作为临时首相。
上图，雅典的一个希腊正教教堂，人们正等待食物救济。
Greece'sinability to form a government has observers concerned about the country'sability to implement the severe austerity measures and other changes necessaryfor it to remain within the European Union.
希腊无力组织政府，这使得观察家担心这个国家是否有能力实施严格的财政紧缩措施和其他为留在欧盟内必须进行的改变。
Above, a defaced sculpture at the universityfor art and architecture in Athens.
上图，雅典美术学院内损坏的雕塑。
Despite its controversialanti-immigrant campaign, Golden Dawn ended up garnering a surprising 7 percentof the vote. The neo-Nazi party has denied any responsibility for the recentspate of immigrant beatings. The most recent attack took place on June 2, whena group of bikers participating in a Golden Dawn rally injured a 31-year-oldPakistani bystander.
尽管其从事争议性的反移民活动，金色黎明党令人惊异地获得了7%的选票。这个新纳粹政党拒绝对最近爆发的针对移民的暴力冲突承担任何责任。最近一次袭击发生在6月2日，一群参加金色黎明集会的自行车手打伤了一位31岁的巴基斯坦裔路人。
Above, police run to head off a groupof anarchists protesting against rise of Golden Dawn.
上图，警察阻止一群无政府主义者反对金色黎明崛起的抗议活动。
Above, a homeless woman sits near Monastirakisquare. Homelessness has soared by an estimated 25 percent since 2009 and thecountry is now in its fifth straight year of recession. The officialunemployment rate is nudging 20 percent.
上图，一位无家可归的女士坐在蒙纳斯提拉奇广场边上。无家可归者数量自2009年以来已经飙升了大约25%而希腊已处在经济连续衰退的第五个年头。官方失业率数据逼近20%。
Shuttered shops line the street at night.
黑夜的街道上紧闭门窗的店铺排成行。
People line up for food distribution at a GreekOrthodox Church.
教堂里排队领取食物救济的人群。
A man holding a bouquet of flowers walks pastan abandoned building.
手捧鲜花的男子走过废弃的楼宇。
A homeless man sleeps in front of a branch ofthe National Bank .
一个无家可归者睡在一家国家银行的分行门前。
An elderly woman begs for money on the steps ofthe Bank of Greece near Syntagma Square in central Athens.
雅典中央城区的雅典宪法广场边，一位老妇人在希腊银行门前的台阶上乞讨。
A woman walks past a sleeping homeless mansleeping on the sidewalk.
一位女士从人行道边睡着的无家可归者身边经过。
以下是评论
TheodorePananos
What is thedifference between Athensand the other big cities of the West, based on these photos? On the other Westnations there are no poor people or drug addicts? It is obvious that thesephotos are the exception and not the rule.
基于这些照片，雅典和其他西方大城市有何区别？其他西方国家就没有穷人和瘾君子了吗？明显这些照片是例外而非常态。
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OcastJournalist
Economy = humanrights. Deng is right,regardless of black or white cat, the one that catches mouse is a good cat. Same thing for political system.What is human rights, democracy or freedom when people are living in povertystruggling to met end need?
经济=人权。邓是对的，不管黑猫白猫抓住耗子就是好猫。政治体制同理。当人们生活在贫困中挣扎求存寻求脱贫时，怎样的人权，民主或者自由是他们需要的？
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jac323
What did Iceland do withthe bankers? Did the prime minister once work for Goldman Sachs?(goldensack, they get the gold you get the sack) Financial tyranny. All forthe well connected!
冰岛对银行家是怎么做的？首相好像曾为高盛（高盛就是他们又高又盛你就又矮又搓（golden sack, they get the gold you get the sack））工作么？金融暴政，权钱勾结！
RedNati
This is reallyan unfair article.And definitely NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE! What you see on thephotos is only a small part of the city.The rest is totally different.If I'mnot mistaken, you can see squalid and poor neighbourhoods in most big cities ofthe world. If you want to do serious journalism, you have to show the otherside of the story, too. The beautiful, rich, clean and full of history andtourists areas of Athens.Indeed this is a very cheap article...
这真是一篇有失偏颇且绝非全景的文章！你们在照片上看到的只是城市的一小部分地区，其他地方完全不同。如果我没弄错的话，你们在世界上绝大多数的城市中都能见到肮脏的贫民窟。要做严谨的报道，事情的另一面就也应该被展示：美丽富饶整洁而充满历史沉淀和游客的雅典。本文真小家子气。
TasosToumpanakis
RedNati If you are Greek then you mustbe living on your own bubble world. If you are not, then you are eithermisinformed or you simply do not respect what the Greek people are goingthrough. We are talking about a country where the suicides have an increase of400%; about a country where the basic wage went almost to half in 2 years, butthe prices for goods have increased 35% (more expensive than Berlin); about acountry that works MOST from EVERY Euro-zone country (go to Eurostat, you needto be informed a bit). I could go on and on and on. I dont know whose cheaper,that kind of opinions or the countries that like neo-fascists try to squeezeevery little nickel from Greek people... Actually, both are very sad.
楼上的，如果你是希腊人，你肯定是生活在自己的泡沫童话里。如果你不是希腊人，那要么你被误传了，要么你就是不尊重希腊人民正在经历的一切。我们这儿说的可是一个自杀率上升了400%的国家，一个基本工资2年内少到原来的一半而食物价格却涨了35%的国家（比柏林还贵），一个工作基本靠其他所有欧元区国家的地方（去欧盟统计局，你得提高姿势水平啊！）。我还可以继续喷很多。我不知道谁更小家子气，你的观点，还是似要榨干希腊人民每一枚硬币的新纳粹国家？其实两者都是悲剧。
spyrakos35
TasosToumpanakis RedNati
the point isthat showing just pics like these, the whole world believes that we are at alllike that.... this is not true, this is not greece.... yes, we have problems,suicides, unemployment has raised, fascism has raised as well but this is NOTthe whole picture....
问题是只展示这些照片弄得全世界都觉得我们全是那样子的。这不对，这不是希腊……不错我们有问题，有自杀，有上升的失业率，也有重新抬头的法西斯主义，但是这些不是这里的全景。
LeonidGeiler
My wife andI have traveled Greece ayear ago, and we were shocked to discover how undeveloped thecountry was. Particularly the southern part of the Peloponnesus,but also the north.
我和我妻子去年去希腊旅游，我们被这个国家的欠发展程度震惊了。特别是伯罗奔尼撒半岛的南部，而且北部也不怎么样。
In mosttowns (even the large ones) there was not a single trafficlight. Main arteries between major hubs had just a single lane, and manyof the roads were in a horrible condition. Only outside Athens did we see any industrial complexes,and even these were in part dilapidated. In most villages we passedthrough, there were no young people to be seen. Only old folks sitting outsidetheir houses, doing nothing.
在大多数城镇，即使是大一些的，都没有一个交通信号灯。交通枢纽间的主干道竟然是单行道，且路况糟糕。仅在雅典郊外我们看到了一些工业中心，可即使这些当中的部分也已经被废弃。我们在大多数途经的乡村看不到年轻人，只有老朽们坐在屋外无所事事。
And you couldclearly see the lack of tourists, even though it was June. Almost all thehotels we stayed in had a very low occupancy. In one place (Lefkada, if Irecall correctly), we were the only people in the hotel.
明显你能感受到游客的稀缺，即使在6月。绝大多数我们待过的酒店入住率极低。甚至有个叫Lefkada的酒店，如果我没记错名字的话，我们是唯一的房客。
Emptyrestaurants, with all tables set, their owners standing outside, hoping someonemight come in. Empty shops. Deserted villages. It was truly heartbreakingto see.
空荡荡的饭店里摆好了桌椅，老板站在门外期待某人光临。空荡荡的商店，荒废的乡村，真是看得人伤感。
The scenery was,of course, magnificent. But the country seemed neglected.
景致固然美不胜收，国家本身却没有存在感。
TheodorePananos
LeonidGeiler In 2011 there was a record in theGreek tourist industry with a visit of 16 millions tourists (Greek population11 millions). I suppose you didn't visit tourist areas....
On the otherhand I agree that the infrastructures should be better.
楼上，2011年希腊旅游业的游客接待量是1600万（希腊人口才1100万），我猜你没有去旅游景点吧。不过，我同意基础设施乏善可陈。
kbc
If democracy isresponsible for the present day in Greece, we can still think of abetter political philosophy. Or may be a better theocracy.
如果今日希腊之景都赖民主政体的话，我们还是能找个更好的政治理论的，比如一个更好的神权政体。
sympathyforthedevil
“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.”
“历史常自行重演，第一次是悲剧，第二次是闹剧。”（译者注：马克思说的）
RonaldRich
Interesting andVery Sad Article about Poor Economy, Drug Abuse, and HIV in Greece!
希腊糟糕的经济、滥用毒品、HIV——有趣而伤感的文章。（译者注：哪有HIV…=。=）
jac323
There you go,that is austerity for you, everything gets worse and the elite pick upreal assets for pennies on the dollar. Is that the plan?
又来了，紧缩政策是吧？一切变糟了之后精英阶层卷铺盖逃跑是吧？是这么个计划吗？
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Dimitris Botsis
Living in Athens, I am shocked tosay that the photos are so relevant to the actual daily life in the city.Sadstate indeed , hopefully it will be reversed soon.
生活在雅典，我不得不说这些图片如此和真正的生活紧密相关。确实是可悲的国家，不过还好有希望很快能扭转情势。
Dan A
you could takethese images any week in the uS or frankly any country. Starting with the imageof a heroin addict is sensationalist and cheap. Poor work from FP.
任何一周，在美国或者实际上任何一个国家，你都能拍到这些照片。用海洛因成瘾者的照片开头真是感觉论者和小气的作法。外交聚焦的烂作！
Oleg Kolysnychenko
I won't press alike button. That's propaganda. These pics are not depicting the real picture.One can travel to almost every country and make pictures of some drug addictsand homeless people. Apart from the center of Athens,that I don't like, Athensis a beautiful city with lots of green in it. Beside that, Greece is not only Athens.
我不会顶的。这是政治宣传。这些图片不写实。你可以到几乎任何一个国家拍些瘾君子和流浪汉的照片。除了我不喜欢的雅典市中心，雅典是个美丽的城市，绿意萦绕其间。除此之外，希腊又不是只有雅典一个城市。
Peter Desilets
Whether New York City, Athensor elsewhere, inequality exists and it is sometimes manifested in drug use. ForAmerican apologists of austerity policies, it's a dog eat dog world. For therest the world, America'sunremorseful and fraudulent manipulation of financial markets is a mad dogtrying to swallow more than its full stomach can chew......
不论纽约，雅典还是其他地方，不平等都存在且常以毒品滥用显现。对于为美国紧缩政策辩护的人来说，这是个狗咬狗的残酷世界。对于世界上其他地方的人来说，美国不知悔改的欺骗性的对金融市场的操纵就是一条疯狗，想吞下它撑爆了胃也装不下的东西。
Gökhan Buz
However, theyare successfully doing Peter. Once they fail, rest pay the fine. Strongest willrule - is a legacy.
不管怎么说，楼上，他们（美国）做的挺成功啊。一旦玩儿脱了，剩下的（国家）就得负责擦屁股。强者统治一切——这是历史传统。
Kaan Connors
Mr. Fadek, whenwas the last time you got out to street in LA? Or SF? Or DC??? And people wholike this, what exactly do you like about this????
斐德克先生（本文作者——译者注），你上次走在洛杉矶，或者旧金山，或者华盛顿的街头是什么时候了？谁喜欢看这些，你为什么喜欢写这些？
Peter Desilets
So Karen, Americawants to impose its drug use template on Athens,Paris, London, Madrid, Rome?Next, there will a suggestion of an NFL expansion team in Athens to boost thecity's economy, perhaps even a stadium modeled on the L.A. Coliseum...it's aselection of photos attempting to represent Greece's reality much like your ownDorothea Lange and other FSA photographers did so dramatically during The GreatDepression...you remember The Great Depression?
楼上，美国想把他的毒品滥用当模板强推给雅典，巴黎，伦敦，马德里或者罗马？接下来就有建议在雅典新编橄榄球队来刺激经济，也许修个洛杉矶体育场那样的球场呢？这些是一组选编的图片，尝试展现希腊的现实情况，就像多萝西娅·兰格和其他联邦社保局的拍摄于大萧条时期的戏剧性照片一样。你还记得大萧条吧？
Evi Ruso-Dragoumis
Kaan, perhaps welike that the pictures shows a facet of Greeceto people ourside Greecethat did not exist only a few years ago! I live in Athens, and I have seen it go from bad toworse day by day. Athens is not New York, or LA. A fewyears back, there were only a few known spots in the city with heroin addicts.Now there are hundreds in several central squares of the city. Yes, somethingis very rotten in Athens,and the country needs help!
楼上上，也许我们可以说这些照片是给希腊外面的人们展示希腊几年前尚不存在的方方面面。我住在雅典，我已经见证这里日益糟糕的景象。雅典不是纽约或者洛杉矶。几年前，这里还只有少数几个瘾君子窝点，现在在几个中心广场边有几百个。没错，雅典有些地方已经腐烂至极，这个国家需要帮助！
EviRuso-Dragoumis
Just referringto the drug problem. Not even mentioning the soup kitchens that can't keep upor people living in squalid conditions, whole other story.
只说毒品问题，甚至不提供不应求的施舍处和生活在肮脏条件下的人们。真是另外一番说辞。
Kaan Connors
FP, you are somean! )) They are just getting ready for their SIESTA!
外交聚焦，你可真卑鄙，他们只是在准备睡午觉。
ThomasDanger Ander
Ah KaanConnors...except for more proof that you are a miserable racist and anignorant, is there anything else you want to add?
楼上你除了能证明你是个可悲的种族主义者和无知的家伙外，你还有什么要说的？
Kaan Connors
Thomas, thanksfor the 'kind' opportunity, with permission of wise Greek friends of mine, Iwant to add the following: During my years in Europe,I witnessed some people causing artificial problems at work to get fired, andthen spending their unemployment aid on drugs, taking advantage of workingGreek people. I witnessed racist's hate towards LEGAL immigrants who do jobsthat natives don't want to do in the first place. I witnessed them coming towork at 10, sleeping all morning, still ask for a siesta time after the meal,and want to leave around 17, and then blaming their politicians and foreignersand even tourists, for their problems. So, I know about lazyness, I know aboutracism, I know about selfishness and irresponsibility, I used to live in amediterranean country!! Those I observe, they don't make me a racist... Youtell me please, what do they make them?
谢谢楼上“友善”的机会，经得我明智的希腊朋友的许可，我想说的如下：当我在欧洲的年月里，我见证了人们故意犯错被炒鱿鱼，然后用失业救济吸毒，利用着工作的希腊人民；我见证了针对合法移民的种族仇视，这些移民做着本地人不愿意做的工作；我见证有些人早上10点来工作，然后就睡觉，餐后还要午休时间，然后17点就想下班，最后还批评他们的政府官员，外国人，甚至游客的问题。所以我了解什么叫懒惰，我了解什么叫种族主义，我了解什么叫自私自利不负责任，我曾生活在这么一个地中海国家！！这些我看到的，请你告诉我，不把我变成种族主义者，还能把我变成什么？
Kaan Connors
I also witnessedthe difference in treatment between the government offices of the U.S.and some shitty mediterranean country, I have seen the 'civilization andmanners' in the first one and ‘inferiority complex and xenophobia’ in thesecond… So, please keep your teachings for your own people, I am already filledup with the hypocrisy over there...
我还见证了美国政府机关和一些稍差的地中海国家的政府机关间不同的做派。我在前者那里见到了“文明和礼貌”，而在后者那里看到的是“自卑感和盲目仇外”。所以，请把你的说教留给你自己的人民，我是已经受够了那里的伪善了。
TheodorePananos
What is thedifference between Athensand the other big cities of the West, based on these photos? On the other Westnations there are no poor people or drug addicts? It is obvious that thesephotos are the exception and not the rule.
基于这些照片，雅典和其他西方大城市有何区别？其他西方国家就没有穷人和瘾君子了吗？明显这些照片是例外而非常态。
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OcastJournalist
Economy = humanrights. Deng is right,regardless of black or white cat, the one that catches mouse is a good cat. Same thing for political system.What is human rights, democracy or freedom when people are living in povertystruggling to met end need?
经济=人权。邓是对的，不管黑猫白猫抓住耗子就是好猫。政治体制同理。当人们生活在贫困中挣扎求存寻求脱贫时，怎样的人权，民主或者自由是他们需要的？
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jac323
What did Iceland do withthe bankers? Did the prime minister once work for Goldman Sachs?(goldensack, they get the gold you get the sack) Financial tyranny. All forthe well connected!
冰岛对银行家是怎么做的？首相好像曾为高盛（高盛就是他们又高又盛你就又矮又搓（golden sack, they get the gold you get the sack））工作么？金融暴政，权钱勾结！
RedNati
This is reallyan unfair article.And definitely NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE! What you see on thephotos is only a small part of the city.The rest is totally different.If I'mnot mistaken, you can see squalid and poor neighbourhoods in most big cities ofthe world. If you want to do serious journalism, you have to show the otherside of the story, too. The beautiful, rich, clean and full of history andtourists areas of Athens.Indeed this is a very cheap article...
这真是一篇有失偏颇且绝非全景的文章！你们在照片上看到的只是城市的一小部分地区，其他地方完全不同。如果我没弄错的话，你们在世界上绝大多数的城市中都能见到肮脏的贫民窟。要做严谨的报道，事情的另一面就也应该被展示：美丽富饶整洁而充满历史沉淀和游客的雅典。本文真小家子气。
TasosToumpanakis
RedNati If you are Greek then you mustbe living on your own bubble world. If you are not, then you are eithermisinformed or you simply do not respect what the Greek people are goingthrough. We are talking about a country where the suicides have an increase of400%; about a country where the basic wage went almost to half in 2 years, butthe prices for goods have increased 35% (more expensive than Berlin); about acountry that works MOST from EVERY Euro-zone country (go to Eurostat, you needto be informed a bit). I could go on and on and on. I dont know whose cheaper,that kind of opinions or the countries that like neo-fascists try to squeezeevery little nickel from Greek people... Actually, both are very sad.
楼上的，如果你是希腊人，你肯定是生活在自己的泡沫童话里。如果你不是希腊人，那要么你被误传了，要么你就是不尊重希腊人民正在经历的一切。我们这儿说的可是一个自杀率上升了400%的国家，一个基本工资2年内少到原来的一半而食物价格却涨了35%的国家（比柏林还贵），一个工作基本靠其他所有欧元区国家的地方（去欧盟统计局，你得提高姿势水平啊！）。我还可以继续喷很多。我不知道谁更小家子气，你的观点，还是似要榨干希腊人民每一枚硬币的新纳粹国家？其实两者都是悲剧。
spyrakos35
TasosToumpanakis RedNati
the point isthat showing just pics like these, the whole world believes that we are at alllike that.... this is not true, this is not greece.... yes, we have problems,suicides, unemployment has raised, fascism has raised as well but this is NOTthe whole picture....
问题是只展示这些照片弄得全世界都觉得我们全是那样子的。这不对，这不是希腊……不错我们有问题，有自杀，有上升的失业率，也有重新抬头的法西斯主义，但是这些不是这里的全景。
LeonidGeiler
My wife andI have traveled Greece ayear ago, and we were shocked to discover how undeveloped thecountry was. Particularly the southern part of the Peloponnesus,but also the north.
我和我妻子去年去希腊旅游，我们被这个国家的欠发展程度震惊了。特别是伯罗奔尼撒半岛的南部，而且北部也不怎么样。
In mosttowns (even the large ones) there was not a single trafficlight. Main arteries between major hubs had just a single lane, and manyof the roads were in a horrible condition. Only outside Athens did we see any industrial complexes,and even these were in part dilapidated. In most villages we passedthrough, there were no young people to be seen. Only old folks sitting outsidetheir houses, doing nothing.
在大多数城镇，即使是大一些的，都没有一个交通信号灯。交通枢纽间的主干道竟然是单行道，且路况糟糕。仅在雅典郊外我们看到了一些工业中心，可即使这些当中的部分也已经被废弃。我们在大多数途经的乡村看不到年轻人，只有老朽们坐在屋外无所事事。
And you couldclearly see the lack of tourists, even though it was June. Almost all thehotels we stayed in had a very low occupancy. In one place (Lefkada, if Irecall correctly), we were the only people in the hotel.
明显你能感受到游客的稀缺，即使在6月。绝大多数我们待过的酒店入住率极低。甚至有个叫Lefkada的酒店，如果我没记错名字的话，我们是唯一的房客。
Emptyrestaurants, with all tables set, their owners standing outside, hoping someonemight come in. Empty shops. Deserted villages. It was truly heartbreakingto see.
空荡荡的饭店里摆好了桌椅，老板站在门外期待某人光临。空荡荡的商店，荒废的乡村，真是看得人伤感。
The scenery was,of course, magnificent. But the country seemed neglected.
景致固然美不胜收，国家本身却没有存在感。
TheodorePananos
LeonidGeiler In 2011 there was a record in theGreek tourist industry with a visit of 16 millions tourists (Greek population11 millions). I suppose you didn't visit tourist areas....
On the otherhand I agree that the infrastructures should be better.
楼上，2011年希腊旅游业的游客接待量是1600万（希腊人口才1100万），我猜你没有去旅游景点吧。不过，我同意基础设施乏善可陈。
kbc
If democracy isresponsible for the present day in Greece, we can still think of abetter political philosophy. Or may be a better theocracy.
如果今日希腊之景都赖民主政体的话，我们还是能找个更好的政治理论的，比如一个更好的神权政体。
sympathyforthedevil
“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.”
“历史常自行重演，第一次是悲剧，第二次是闹剧。”（译者注：马克思说的）
RonaldRich
Interesting andVery Sad Article about Poor Economy, Drug Abuse, and HIV in Greece!
希腊糟糕的经济、滥用毒品、HIV——有趣而伤感的文章。（译者注：哪有HIV…=。=）
jac323
There you go,that is austerity for you, everything gets worse and the elite pick upreal assets for pennies on the dollar. Is that the plan?
又来了，紧缩政策是吧？一切变糟了之后精英阶层卷铺盖逃跑是吧？是这么个计划吗？
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Dimitris Botsis
Living in Athens, I am shocked tosay that the photos are so relevant to the actual daily life in the city.Sadstate indeed , hopefully it will be reversed soon.
生活在雅典，我不得不说这些图片如此和真正的生活紧密相关。确实是可悲的国家，不过还好有希望很快能扭转情势。
Dan A
you could takethese images any week in the uS or frankly any country. Starting with the imageof a heroin addict is sensationalist and cheap. Poor work from FP.
任何一周，在美国或者实际上任何一个国家，你都能拍到这些照片。用海洛因成瘾者的照片开头真是感觉论者和小气的作法。外交聚焦的烂作！
Oleg Kolysnychenko
I won't press alike button. That's propaganda. These pics are not depicting the real picture.One can travel to almost every country and make pictures of some drug addictsand homeless people. Apart from the center of Athens,that I don't like, Athensis a beautiful city with lots of green in it. Beside that, Greece is not only Athens.
我不会顶的。这是政治宣传。这些图片不写实。你可以到几乎任何一个国家拍些瘾君子和流浪汉的照片。除了我不喜欢的雅典市中心，雅典是个美丽的城市，绿意萦绕其间。除此之外，希腊又不是只有雅典一个城市。
Peter Desilets
Whether New York City, Athensor elsewhere, inequality exists and it is sometimes manifested in drug use. ForAmerican apologists of austerity policies, it's a dog eat dog world. For therest the world, America'sunremorseful and fraudulent manipulation of financial markets is a mad dogtrying to swallow more than its full stomach can chew......
不论纽约，雅典还是其他地方，不平等都存在且常以毒品滥用显现。对于为美国紧缩政策辩护的人来说，这是个狗咬狗的残酷世界。对于世界上其他地方的人来说，美国不知悔改的欺骗性的对金融市场的操纵就是一条疯狗，想吞下它撑爆了胃也装不下的东西。
Gökhan Buz
However, theyare successfully doing Peter. Once they fail, rest pay the fine. Strongest willrule - is a legacy.
不管怎么说，楼上，他们（美国）做的挺成功啊。一旦玩儿脱了，剩下的（国家）就得负责擦屁股。强者统治一切——这是历史传统。
Kaan Connors
Mr. Fadek, whenwas the last time you got out to street in LA? Or SF? Or DC??? And people wholike this, what exactly do you like about this????
斐德克先生（本文作者——译者注），你上次走在洛杉矶，或者旧金山，或者华盛顿的街头是什么时候了？谁喜欢看这些，你为什么喜欢写这些？
Peter Desilets
So Karen, Americawants to impose its drug use template on Athens,Paris, London, Madrid, Rome?Next, there will a suggestion of an NFL expansion team in Athens to boost thecity's economy, perhaps even a stadium modeled on the L.A. Coliseum...it's aselection of photos attempting to represent Greece's reality much like your ownDorothea Lange and other FSA photographers did so dramatically during The GreatDepression...you remember The Great Depression?
楼上，美国想把他的毒品滥用当模板强推给雅典，巴黎，伦敦，马德里或者罗马？接下来就有建议在雅典新编橄榄球队来刺激经济，也许修个洛杉矶体育场那样的球场呢？这些是一组选编的图片，尝试展现希腊的现实情况，就像多萝西娅·兰格和其他联邦社保局的拍摄于大萧条时期的戏剧性照片一样。你还记得大萧条吧？
Evi Ruso-Dragoumis
Kaan, perhaps welike that the pictures shows a facet of Greeceto people ourside Greecethat did not exist only a few years ago! I live in Athens, and I have seen it go from bad toworse day by day. Athens is not New York, or LA. A fewyears back, there were only a few known spots in the city with heroin addicts.Now there are hundreds in several central squares of the city. Yes, somethingis very rotten in Athens,and the country needs help!
楼上上，也许我们可以说这些照片是给希腊外面的人们展示希腊几年前尚不存在的方方面面。我住在雅典，我已经见证这里日益糟糕的景象。雅典不是纽约或者洛杉矶。几年前，这里还只有少数几个瘾君子窝点，现在在几个中心广场边有几百个。没错，雅典有些地方已经腐烂至极，这个国家需要帮助！
EviRuso-Dragoumis
Just referringto the drug problem. Not even mentioning the soup kitchens that can't keep upor people living in squalid conditions, whole other story.
只说毒品问题，甚至不提供不应求的施舍处和生活在肮脏条件下的人们。真是另外一番说辞。
Kaan Connors
FP, you are somean! )) They are just getting ready for their SIESTA!
外交聚焦，你可真卑鄙，他们只是在准备睡午觉。
ThomasDanger Ander
Ah KaanConnors...except for more proof that you are a miserable racist and anignorant, is there anything else you want to add?
楼上你除了能证明你是个可悲的种族主义者和无知的家伙外，你还有什么要说的？
Kaan Connors
Thomas, thanksfor the 'kind' opportunity, with permission of wise Greek friends of mine, Iwant to add the following: During my years in Europe,I witnessed some people causing artificial problems at work to get fired, andthen spending their unemployment aid on drugs, taking advantage of workingGreek people. I witnessed racist's hate towards LEGAL immigrants who do jobsthat natives don't want to do in the first place. I witnessed them coming towork at 10, sleeping all morning, still ask for a siesta time after the meal,and want to leave around 17, and then blaming their politicians and foreignersand even tourists, for their problems. So, I know about lazyness, I know aboutracism, I know about selfishness and irresponsibility, I used to live in amediterranean country!! Those I observe, they don't make me a racist... Youtell me please, what do they make them?
谢谢楼上“友善”的机会，经得我明智的希腊朋友的许可，我想说的如下：当我在欧洲的年月里，我见证了人们故意犯错被炒鱿鱼，然后用失业救济吸毒，利用着工作的希腊人民；我见证了针对合法移民的种族仇视，这些移民做着本地人不愿意做的工作；我见证有些人早上10点来工作，然后就睡觉，餐后还要午休时间，然后17点就想下班，最后还批评他们的政府官员，外国人，甚至游客的问题。所以我了解什么叫懒惰，我了解什么叫种族主义，我了解什么叫自私自利不负责任，我曾生活在这么一个地中海国家！！这些我看到的，请你告诉我，不把我变成种族主义者，还能把我变成什么？
Kaan Connors
I also witnessedthe difference in treatment between the government offices of the U.S.and some shitty mediterranean country, I have seen the 'civilization andmanners' in the first one and ‘inferiority complex and xenophobia’ in thesecond… So, please keep your teachings for your own people, I am already filledup with the hypocrisy over there...
我还见证了美国政府机关和一些稍差的地中海国家的政府机关间不同的做派。我在前者那里见到了“文明和礼貌”，而在后者那里看到的是“自卑感和盲目仇外”。所以，请把你的说教留给你自己的人民，我是已经受够了那里的伪善了。