超级军网韩国准备用新战机替代老旧的F-4
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South Korea weighs option to replace F-4E Phantoms
By: Greg Waldron Singapore
12:00 14 Oct 2011
Source:
"Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground" - Lockheed Martin
South Korea is surrounded. To the south, east and west lie the sea. To the north lies its arch-rival North Korea. While the region south of Seoul is full of industrial and residential development, the 50km (31-mile) stretch to the demilitarised zone that has divided Korea since 1953 is barely developed, only rolling hills and forest under blue skies.
"Property gets cheaper the further north you go," jokes one South Korean. The DMZ itself resembles a lush nature reserve - provided one ignores the long stretches of barbed wire and dour soldiers in lookout towers.
South Koreans live with the very real possibility they could find themselves in a major war with the neighbours. In a conflict with North Korea, the Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) would be called upon to hammer a vast range of targets north of the DMZ - such as thousands of artillery tubes in hardened bunkers in range of Seoul, and missile launch sites deep in North Korea.
Seoul is unlikely to fight alone. The USA has almost 30,000 personnel on the peninsula, with a significant USAF combat presence. Japan could also be drawn in. The US military has war-gamed a horrifying scenario in which an embattled North Korea launches a nuclear weapon which strikes Tokyo.
pak fa
The PAK FA is not rated as a contender
Copyright: Vladislav Perminov
Given this security backdrop, Seoul places a high priority on the modernisation of the ROKAF. A major element of this is the F-X III competition to replace more than 60 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantoms.
A request for proposals for more than 60 aircraft is expected in February. The shortlist is diverse - Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle, Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, Eurofighter Typhoon and Sukhoi PAK FA (also known as the T-50). Deliveries of the winning aircraft are likely to start in 2016.
There is no question the F-4Es need to be replaced. The USAF has not operated the type for nearly two decades, and the ROKAF's Phantoms lack the precision weapons, sensors and communications equipment found on more advanced ROKAF types, such the F-15K Slam Eagle and KF-16. Delivered in the 1970s, the Phantoms' airframes are also nearing the end of their service life. One industry source said the ROKAF is already standing down some of the ageing aircraft, resulting in a capability gap.
Heart and seoul
Although there are four fighters on the F-X III shortlist, the real battle is only between two - the F-15SE and F-35. This is mainly down to the deep US-Seoul relationship. Visitors to the US army's vast Yongsan army base in the heart of Seoul find themselves in small-town USA, complete with high school, fast-food restaurants and administration buildings where US and Korean military personnel work side by side. Seoul's Defense Acquisition Program Administration, the ultimate arbiter of F-X III, lies a short walk away, just outside the walls of the base.
"FX-III is the USA's to lose," said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst for the Teal Group. "It's more than just the political dimension of a strategic relationship, which in itself is all-important to a country with a volatile and violent neighbour. It's also about shared logistics, training and doctrine."
He cited a number of advantages for the F-15SE. "It's got commonality with South Korea's existing fleet, a degree of stealth for the opening stages of a conflict and plenty of payload, which is important given the nature of the threat. Its only drawback is that it doesn't have all the qualities associated with the F-35." He added that the F-35 offers a close relationship with the USAF for years to come, "and the world's most modern air combat system [excepting the F-22]". He noted, however, that the F-35 cannot match the F-15SE on payload. "The only other problems with the F-35 concern uncertainties about cost, timing and industrial benefits," he said. "I'd give the two US planes an equal chance."
f-15se
Boeing's pitch focuses on the F-15SE's payload
Credit: Boeing
Boeing lauds the F-15SE's payload, which it claims is the highest in the competition, as well as a unique "stealthy-when-needed" feature. In the early stages of the conflict, when stealth is useful for countering enemy air defences - given the decrepit state of the North's air force, the air-to-air mission does not seem to concern contestants - the F-15SE would operate with conformal weapons bays that help reduce the aircraft's radar cross-section.
Following the attainment of aerial supremacy, stealth would no longer be a major requirement, said Boeing. It would take three hours to trade the F-15SE's weapons bays for conformal fuel tanks, creating what Boeing refers to as an F-15K+ configuration, which is optimised for heavy loads of precision weapons. Boeing claimed this heavy configuration is ideal to efficiently destroy hardened targets in North Korea. The canted tails of the F-15SE allow for two additional weapons stations on the F-15SE's wings as compared with previous versions of the fighter.
"The F-15SE offers Korea the flexibility to field an aircraft with both reduced radar cross-section capability and a heavy combat payload," said Howard Berry, Boeing's F-X III campaign manager.
"We do this by offering the conformal weapons bay for selected mission profiles, and the ability to convert into a heavier configuration for a variety of missions."
Platform compatibility
In November 2010, Boeing announced Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) would design, develop and manufacture the Silent Eagle's CWB. In addition, the F-15 is a known quantity to the ROKAF - the F-15K Slam Eagle won both Korea's F-X I (40 aircraft) and F-X II (21 aircraft) competitions. The final eight F-15Ks of the F-X II order will be delivered by April 2012.
The F-15K is likely to be in ROKAF service for decades. Boeing said the F-15SE will have 85% platform compatibility with the F-15K, simplifying logistics and training. For its part, Lockheed Martin pushes the F-35's all-aspect stealth. "Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground," said Lockheed. "The very low observable F-35 is designed from the ground up to defeat these threats and the threats that will emerge to threaten Korea over the next 30 to 40 years."
Lockheed Martin also stressed the economies of scale inherent in a programme that will "deliver thousands of F-35s over the next 30 years" - an excellent sensor suite and full interoperability with US forces.
Both companies are also committed to Korean industrial participation, with decades of experience. KAI produced the KF-16 fighter under licence and also produces the forward fuselage of the F-15. Samsung Techwin produces the F-15K's General Electric F110 engine and KF-16's F100. Several other subsystems for both the F-15K and KF-16 are also produced in Korea.
It would be informative to compare precise differences between the radar cross-sections of the F-15SE, with its conformal weapons bays, and the F-35. The highly sensitive nature of the technologies, however, prevents both companies revealing details. What is certain is that the F-35's primary attribute, stealth, would be compromised when weapons are mounted externally.
f-35 credit lockheed martin
The F-35 Lightning II is on Seoul's F-X III contest shortlist to replace its F-4E Phantoms
Copyright: Lockheed Martin
Industry observers are more dubious about the chances of the other two aircraft in the competition - the Eurofighter Typhoon and PAK FA. The Eurofighter, eliminated from the original F-X I competition, is regarded as a superb dogfighter. In the recent air war over Libya it demonstrated its attack capabilities. On the other hand, the ROKAF's large stocks of American weapons would need to be integrated with the platform, and the aircraft is not known for its stealth qualities.
If the Eurofighter is a dark horse, the developmental PAK FA has little realistic chance of winning the competition. Aboulafia summed up the prevailing view of the Russian fighter: "PAK-FA offers a unique combination of more risk than F-35, with less effectiveness, no interoperability, no strategic relationship, and a dubious logistics situation. It has no chance."
It is hard to understate the importance of Seoul's F-X III competition to the two main contestants, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
For Boeing, it represents an opportunity to add another chapter to the long success story of the F-15.
For Lockheed Martin, F-X III would provided a badly needed boost to the troubled, but still promising, F-35 programme. The blue skies of the DMZ await.http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/south-korea-weighs-options-to-replace-f-4e-phantoms-362908/
South Korea weighs option to replace F-4E Phantoms
By: Greg Waldron Singapore
12:00 14 Oct 2011
Source:
"Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground" - Lockheed Martin
South Korea is surrounded. To the south, east and west lie the sea. To the north lies its arch-rival North Korea. While the region south of Seoul is full of industrial and residential development, the 50km (31-mile) stretch to the demilitarised zone that has divided Korea since 1953 is barely developed, only rolling hills and forest under blue skies.
"Property gets cheaper the further north you go," jokes one South Korean. The DMZ itself resembles a lush nature reserve - provided one ignores the long stretches of barbed wire and dour soldiers in lookout towers.
South Koreans live with the very real possibility they could find themselves in a major war with the neighbours. In a conflict with North Korea, the Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) would be called upon to hammer a vast range of targets north of the DMZ - such as thousands of artillery tubes in hardened bunkers in range of Seoul, and missile launch sites deep in North Korea.
Seoul is unlikely to fight alone. The USA has almost 30,000 personnel on the peninsula, with a significant USAF combat presence. Japan could also be drawn in. The US military has war-gamed a horrifying scenario in which an embattled North Korea launches a nuclear weapon which strikes Tokyo.
pak fa
The PAK FA is not rated as a contender
Copyright: Vladislav Perminov
Given this security backdrop, Seoul places a high priority on the modernisation of the ROKAF. A major element of this is the F-X III competition to replace more than 60 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantoms.
A request for proposals for more than 60 aircraft is expected in February. The shortlist is diverse - Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle, Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, Eurofighter Typhoon and Sukhoi PAK FA (also known as the T-50). Deliveries of the winning aircraft are likely to start in 2016.
There is no question the F-4Es need to be replaced. The USAF has not operated the type for nearly two decades, and the ROKAF's Phantoms lack the precision weapons, sensors and communications equipment found on more advanced ROKAF types, such the F-15K Slam Eagle and KF-16. Delivered in the 1970s, the Phantoms' airframes are also nearing the end of their service life. One industry source said the ROKAF is already standing down some of the ageing aircraft, resulting in a capability gap.
Heart and seoul
Although there are four fighters on the F-X III shortlist, the real battle is only between two - the F-15SE and F-35. This is mainly down to the deep US-Seoul relationship. Visitors to the US army's vast Yongsan army base in the heart of Seoul find themselves in small-town USA, complete with high school, fast-food restaurants and administration buildings where US and Korean military personnel work side by side. Seoul's Defense Acquisition Program Administration, the ultimate arbiter of F-X III, lies a short walk away, just outside the walls of the base.
"FX-III is the USA's to lose," said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst for the Teal Group. "It's more than just the political dimension of a strategic relationship, which in itself is all-important to a country with a volatile and violent neighbour. It's also about shared logistics, training and doctrine."
He cited a number of advantages for the F-15SE. "It's got commonality with South Korea's existing fleet, a degree of stealth for the opening stages of a conflict and plenty of payload, which is important given the nature of the threat. Its only drawback is that it doesn't have all the qualities associated with the F-35." He added that the F-35 offers a close relationship with the USAF for years to come, "and the world's most modern air combat system [excepting the F-22]". He noted, however, that the F-35 cannot match the F-15SE on payload. "The only other problems with the F-35 concern uncertainties about cost, timing and industrial benefits," he said. "I'd give the two US planes an equal chance."
f-15se
Boeing's pitch focuses on the F-15SE's payload
Credit: Boeing
Boeing lauds the F-15SE's payload, which it claims is the highest in the competition, as well as a unique "stealthy-when-needed" feature. In the early stages of the conflict, when stealth is useful for countering enemy air defences - given the decrepit state of the North's air force, the air-to-air mission does not seem to concern contestants - the F-15SE would operate with conformal weapons bays that help reduce the aircraft's radar cross-section.
Following the attainment of aerial supremacy, stealth would no longer be a major requirement, said Boeing. It would take three hours to trade the F-15SE's weapons bays for conformal fuel tanks, creating what Boeing refers to as an F-15K+ configuration, which is optimised for heavy loads of precision weapons. Boeing claimed this heavy configuration is ideal to efficiently destroy hardened targets in North Korea. The canted tails of the F-15SE allow for two additional weapons stations on the F-15SE's wings as compared with previous versions of the fighter.
"The F-15SE offers Korea the flexibility to field an aircraft with both reduced radar cross-section capability and a heavy combat payload," said Howard Berry, Boeing's F-X III campaign manager.
"We do this by offering the conformal weapons bay for selected mission profiles, and the ability to convert into a heavier configuration for a variety of missions."
Platform compatibility
In November 2010, Boeing announced Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) would design, develop and manufacture the Silent Eagle's CWB. In addition, the F-15 is a known quantity to the ROKAF - the F-15K Slam Eagle won both Korea's F-X I (40 aircraft) and F-X II (21 aircraft) competitions. The final eight F-15Ks of the F-X II order will be delivered by April 2012.
The F-15K is likely to be in ROKAF service for decades. Boeing said the F-15SE will have 85% platform compatibility with the F-15K, simplifying logistics and training. For its part, Lockheed Martin pushes the F-35's all-aspect stealth. "Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground," said Lockheed. "The very low observable F-35 is designed from the ground up to defeat these threats and the threats that will emerge to threaten Korea over the next 30 to 40 years."
Lockheed Martin also stressed the economies of scale inherent in a programme that will "deliver thousands of F-35s over the next 30 years" - an excellent sensor suite and full interoperability with US forces.
Both companies are also committed to Korean industrial participation, with decades of experience. KAI produced the KF-16 fighter under licence and also produces the forward fuselage of the F-15. Samsung Techwin produces the F-15K's General Electric F110 engine and KF-16's F100. Several other subsystems for both the F-15K and KF-16 are also produced in Korea.
It would be informative to compare precise differences between the radar cross-sections of the F-15SE, with its conformal weapons bays, and the F-35. The highly sensitive nature of the technologies, however, prevents both companies revealing details. What is certain is that the F-35's primary attribute, stealth, would be compromised when weapons are mounted externally.
f-35 credit lockheed martin
The F-35 Lightning II is on Seoul's F-X III contest shortlist to replace its F-4E Phantoms
Copyright: Lockheed Martin
Industry observers are more dubious about the chances of the other two aircraft in the competition - the Eurofighter Typhoon and PAK FA. The Eurofighter, eliminated from the original F-X I competition, is regarded as a superb dogfighter. In the recent air war over Libya it demonstrated its attack capabilities. On the other hand, the ROKAF's large stocks of American weapons would need to be integrated with the platform, and the aircraft is not known for its stealth qualities.
If the Eurofighter is a dark horse, the developmental PAK FA has little realistic chance of winning the competition. Aboulafia summed up the prevailing view of the Russian fighter: "PAK-FA offers a unique combination of more risk than F-35, with less effectiveness, no interoperability, no strategic relationship, and a dubious logistics situation. It has no chance."
It is hard to understate the importance of Seoul's F-X III competition to the two main contestants, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
For Boeing, it represents an opportunity to add another chapter to the long success story of the F-15.
For Lockheed Martin, F-X III would provided a badly needed boost to the troubled, but still promising, F-35 programme. The blue skies of the DMZ await.
South Korea weighs option to replace F-4E Phantoms
By: Greg Waldron Singapore
12:00 14 Oct 2011
Source:
"Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground" - Lockheed Martin
South Korea is surrounded. To the south, east and west lie the sea. To the north lies its arch-rival North Korea. While the region south of Seoul is full of industrial and residential development, the 50km (31-mile) stretch to the demilitarised zone that has divided Korea since 1953 is barely developed, only rolling hills and forest under blue skies.
"Property gets cheaper the further north you go," jokes one South Korean. The DMZ itself resembles a lush nature reserve - provided one ignores the long stretches of barbed wire and dour soldiers in lookout towers.
South Koreans live with the very real possibility they could find themselves in a major war with the neighbours. In a conflict with North Korea, the Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) would be called upon to hammer a vast range of targets north of the DMZ - such as thousands of artillery tubes in hardened bunkers in range of Seoul, and missile launch sites deep in North Korea.
Seoul is unlikely to fight alone. The USA has almost 30,000 personnel on the peninsula, with a significant USAF combat presence. Japan could also be drawn in. The US military has war-gamed a horrifying scenario in which an embattled North Korea launches a nuclear weapon which strikes Tokyo.
pak fa
The PAK FA is not rated as a contender
Copyright: Vladislav Perminov
Given this security backdrop, Seoul places a high priority on the modernisation of the ROKAF. A major element of this is the F-X III competition to replace more than 60 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantoms.
A request for proposals for more than 60 aircraft is expected in February. The shortlist is diverse - Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle, Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, Eurofighter Typhoon and Sukhoi PAK FA (also known as the T-50). Deliveries of the winning aircraft are likely to start in 2016.
There is no question the F-4Es need to be replaced. The USAF has not operated the type for nearly two decades, and the ROKAF's Phantoms lack the precision weapons, sensors and communications equipment found on more advanced ROKAF types, such the F-15K Slam Eagle and KF-16. Delivered in the 1970s, the Phantoms' airframes are also nearing the end of their service life. One industry source said the ROKAF is already standing down some of the ageing aircraft, resulting in a capability gap.
Heart and seoul
Although there are four fighters on the F-X III shortlist, the real battle is only between two - the F-15SE and F-35. This is mainly down to the deep US-Seoul relationship. Visitors to the US army's vast Yongsan army base in the heart of Seoul find themselves in small-town USA, complete with high school, fast-food restaurants and administration buildings where US and Korean military personnel work side by side. Seoul's Defense Acquisition Program Administration, the ultimate arbiter of F-X III, lies a short walk away, just outside the walls of the base.
"FX-III is the USA's to lose," said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst for the Teal Group. "It's more than just the political dimension of a strategic relationship, which in itself is all-important to a country with a volatile and violent neighbour. It's also about shared logistics, training and doctrine."
He cited a number of advantages for the F-15SE. "It's got commonality with South Korea's existing fleet, a degree of stealth for the opening stages of a conflict and plenty of payload, which is important given the nature of the threat. Its only drawback is that it doesn't have all the qualities associated with the F-35." He added that the F-35 offers a close relationship with the USAF for years to come, "and the world's most modern air combat system [excepting the F-22]". He noted, however, that the F-35 cannot match the F-15SE on payload. "The only other problems with the F-35 concern uncertainties about cost, timing and industrial benefits," he said. "I'd give the two US planes an equal chance."
f-15se
Boeing's pitch focuses on the F-15SE's payload
Credit: Boeing
Boeing lauds the F-15SE's payload, which it claims is the highest in the competition, as well as a unique "stealthy-when-needed" feature. In the early stages of the conflict, when stealth is useful for countering enemy air defences - given the decrepit state of the North's air force, the air-to-air mission does not seem to concern contestants - the F-15SE would operate with conformal weapons bays that help reduce the aircraft's radar cross-section.
Following the attainment of aerial supremacy, stealth would no longer be a major requirement, said Boeing. It would take three hours to trade the F-15SE's weapons bays for conformal fuel tanks, creating what Boeing refers to as an F-15K+ configuration, which is optimised for heavy loads of precision weapons. Boeing claimed this heavy configuration is ideal to efficiently destroy hardened targets in North Korea. The canted tails of the F-15SE allow for two additional weapons stations on the F-15SE's wings as compared with previous versions of the fighter.
"The F-15SE offers Korea the flexibility to field an aircraft with both reduced radar cross-section capability and a heavy combat payload," said Howard Berry, Boeing's F-X III campaign manager.
"We do this by offering the conformal weapons bay for selected mission profiles, and the ability to convert into a heavier configuration for a variety of missions."
Platform compatibility
In November 2010, Boeing announced Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) would design, develop and manufacture the Silent Eagle's CWB. In addition, the F-15 is a known quantity to the ROKAF - the F-15K Slam Eagle won both Korea's F-X I (40 aircraft) and F-X II (21 aircraft) competitions. The final eight F-15Ks of the F-X II order will be delivered by April 2012.
The F-15K is likely to be in ROKAF service for decades. Boeing said the F-15SE will have 85% platform compatibility with the F-15K, simplifying logistics and training. For its part, Lockheed Martin pushes the F-35's all-aspect stealth. "Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground," said Lockheed. "The very low observable F-35 is designed from the ground up to defeat these threats and the threats that will emerge to threaten Korea over the next 30 to 40 years."
Lockheed Martin also stressed the economies of scale inherent in a programme that will "deliver thousands of F-35s over the next 30 years" - an excellent sensor suite and full interoperability with US forces.
Both companies are also committed to Korean industrial participation, with decades of experience. KAI produced the KF-16 fighter under licence and also produces the forward fuselage of the F-15. Samsung Techwin produces the F-15K's General Electric F110 engine and KF-16's F100. Several other subsystems for both the F-15K and KF-16 are also produced in Korea.
It would be informative to compare precise differences between the radar cross-sections of the F-15SE, with its conformal weapons bays, and the F-35. The highly sensitive nature of the technologies, however, prevents both companies revealing details. What is certain is that the F-35's primary attribute, stealth, would be compromised when weapons are mounted externally.
f-35 credit lockheed martin
The F-35 Lightning II is on Seoul's F-X III contest shortlist to replace its F-4E Phantoms
Copyright: Lockheed Martin
Industry observers are more dubious about the chances of the other two aircraft in the competition - the Eurofighter Typhoon and PAK FA. The Eurofighter, eliminated from the original F-X I competition, is regarded as a superb dogfighter. In the recent air war over Libya it demonstrated its attack capabilities. On the other hand, the ROKAF's large stocks of American weapons would need to be integrated with the platform, and the aircraft is not known for its stealth qualities.
If the Eurofighter is a dark horse, the developmental PAK FA has little realistic chance of winning the competition. Aboulafia summed up the prevailing view of the Russian fighter: "PAK-FA offers a unique combination of more risk than F-35, with less effectiveness, no interoperability, no strategic relationship, and a dubious logistics situation. It has no chance."
It is hard to understate the importance of Seoul's F-X III competition to the two main contestants, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
For Boeing, it represents an opportunity to add another chapter to the long success story of the F-15.
For Lockheed Martin, F-X III would provided a badly needed boost to the troubled, but still promising, F-35 programme. The blue skies of the DMZ await.http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/south-korea-weighs-options-to-replace-f-4e-phantoms-362908/
South Korea weighs option to replace F-4E Phantoms
By: Greg Waldron Singapore
12:00 14 Oct 2011
Source:
"Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground" - Lockheed Martin
South Korea is surrounded. To the south, east and west lie the sea. To the north lies its arch-rival North Korea. While the region south of Seoul is full of industrial and residential development, the 50km (31-mile) stretch to the demilitarised zone that has divided Korea since 1953 is barely developed, only rolling hills and forest under blue skies.
"Property gets cheaper the further north you go," jokes one South Korean. The DMZ itself resembles a lush nature reserve - provided one ignores the long stretches of barbed wire and dour soldiers in lookout towers.
South Koreans live with the very real possibility they could find themselves in a major war with the neighbours. In a conflict with North Korea, the Republic of Korea Air Force (ROKAF) would be called upon to hammer a vast range of targets north of the DMZ - such as thousands of artillery tubes in hardened bunkers in range of Seoul, and missile launch sites deep in North Korea.
Seoul is unlikely to fight alone. The USA has almost 30,000 personnel on the peninsula, with a significant USAF combat presence. Japan could also be drawn in. The US military has war-gamed a horrifying scenario in which an embattled North Korea launches a nuclear weapon which strikes Tokyo.
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The PAK FA is not rated as a contender
Copyright: Vladislav Perminov
Given this security backdrop, Seoul places a high priority on the modernisation of the ROKAF. A major element of this is the F-X III competition to replace more than 60 McDonnell Douglas F-4E Phantoms.
A request for proposals for more than 60 aircraft is expected in February. The shortlist is diverse - Boeing F-15 Silent Eagle, Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, Eurofighter Typhoon and Sukhoi PAK FA (also known as the T-50). Deliveries of the winning aircraft are likely to start in 2016.
There is no question the F-4Es need to be replaced. The USAF has not operated the type for nearly two decades, and the ROKAF's Phantoms lack the precision weapons, sensors and communications equipment found on more advanced ROKAF types, such the F-15K Slam Eagle and KF-16. Delivered in the 1970s, the Phantoms' airframes are also nearing the end of their service life. One industry source said the ROKAF is already standing down some of the ageing aircraft, resulting in a capability gap.
Heart and seoul
Although there are four fighters on the F-X III shortlist, the real battle is only between two - the F-15SE and F-35. This is mainly down to the deep US-Seoul relationship. Visitors to the US army's vast Yongsan army base in the heart of Seoul find themselves in small-town USA, complete with high school, fast-food restaurants and administration buildings where US and Korean military personnel work side by side. Seoul's Defense Acquisition Program Administration, the ultimate arbiter of F-X III, lies a short walk away, just outside the walls of the base.
"FX-III is the USA's to lose," said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst for the Teal Group. "It's more than just the political dimension of a strategic relationship, which in itself is all-important to a country with a volatile and violent neighbour. It's also about shared logistics, training and doctrine."
He cited a number of advantages for the F-15SE. "It's got commonality with South Korea's existing fleet, a degree of stealth for the opening stages of a conflict and plenty of payload, which is important given the nature of the threat. Its only drawback is that it doesn't have all the qualities associated with the F-35." He added that the F-35 offers a close relationship with the USAF for years to come, "and the world's most modern air combat system [excepting the F-22]". He noted, however, that the F-35 cannot match the F-15SE on payload. "The only other problems with the F-35 concern uncertainties about cost, timing and industrial benefits," he said. "I'd give the two US planes an equal chance."
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f-15se
Boeing's pitch focuses on the F-15SE's payload
Credit: Boeing
Boeing lauds the F-15SE's payload, which it claims is the highest in the competition, as well as a unique "stealthy-when-needed" feature. In the early stages of the conflict, when stealth is useful for countering enemy air defences - given the decrepit state of the North's air force, the air-to-air mission does not seem to concern contestants - the F-15SE would operate with conformal weapons bays that help reduce the aircraft's radar cross-section.
Following the attainment of aerial supremacy, stealth would no longer be a major requirement, said Boeing. It would take three hours to trade the F-15SE's weapons bays for conformal fuel tanks, creating what Boeing refers to as an F-15K+ configuration, which is optimised for heavy loads of precision weapons. Boeing claimed this heavy configuration is ideal to efficiently destroy hardened targets in North Korea. The canted tails of the F-15SE allow for two additional weapons stations on the F-15SE's wings as compared with previous versions of the fighter.
"The F-15SE offers Korea the flexibility to field an aircraft with both reduced radar cross-section capability and a heavy combat payload," said Howard Berry, Boeing's F-X III campaign manager.
"We do this by offering the conformal weapons bay for selected mission profiles, and the ability to convert into a heavier configuration for a variety of missions."
Platform compatibility
In November 2010, Boeing announced Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) would design, develop and manufacture the Silent Eagle's CWB. In addition, the F-15 is a known quantity to the ROKAF - the F-15K Slam Eagle won both Korea's F-X I (40 aircraft) and F-X II (21 aircraft) competitions. The final eight F-15Ks of the F-X II order will be delivered by April 2012.
The F-15K is likely to be in ROKAF service for decades. Boeing said the F-15SE will have 85% platform compatibility with the F-15K, simplifying logistics and training. For its part, Lockheed Martin pushes the F-35's all-aspect stealth. "Korea is faced with a vast array of growing threats, both in the air and on the ground," said Lockheed. "The very low observable F-35 is designed from the ground up to defeat these threats and the threats that will emerge to threaten Korea over the next 30 to 40 years."
Lockheed Martin also stressed the economies of scale inherent in a programme that will "deliver thousands of F-35s over the next 30 years" - an excellent sensor suite and full interoperability with US forces.
Both companies are also committed to Korean industrial participation, with decades of experience. KAI produced the KF-16 fighter under licence and also produces the forward fuselage of the F-15. Samsung Techwin produces the F-15K's General Electric F110 engine and KF-16's F100. Several other subsystems for both the F-15K and KF-16 are also produced in Korea.
It would be informative to compare precise differences between the radar cross-sections of the F-15SE, with its conformal weapons bays, and the F-35. The highly sensitive nature of the technologies, however, prevents both companies revealing details. What is certain is that the F-35's primary attribute, stealth, would be compromised when weapons are mounted externally.
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The F-35 Lightning II is on Seoul's F-X III contest shortlist to replace its F-4E Phantoms
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Industry observers are more dubious about the chances of the other two aircraft in the competition - the Eurofighter Typhoon and PAK FA. The Eurofighter, eliminated from the original F-X I competition, is regarded as a superb dogfighter. In the recent air war over Libya it demonstrated its attack capabilities. On the other hand, the ROKAF's large stocks of American weapons would need to be integrated with the platform, and the aircraft is not known for its stealth qualities.
If the Eurofighter is a dark horse, the developmental PAK FA has little realistic chance of winning the competition. Aboulafia summed up the prevailing view of the Russian fighter: "PAK-FA offers a unique combination of more risk than F-35, with less effectiveness, no interoperability, no strategic relationship, and a dubious logistics situation. It has no chance."
It is hard to understate the importance of Seoul's F-X III competition to the two main contestants, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
For Boeing, it represents an opportunity to add another chapter to the long success story of the F-15.
For Lockheed Martin, F-X III would provided a badly needed boost to the troubled, but still promising, F-35 programme. The blue skies of the DMZ await.
早说毛子会出局的
按照鬼子有棒子也得有的传统，肥电的可能性更大些~
只看日本买了 他也不甘落后
f-15是绝对不可能的，韩国的传统就是只求最好
T50明显是来给MD搅局的，F15SE对刚装备的F15K的棒子来说没有足够的吸引力，F35的可能性会很大。棒子不会比霓虹先装备新一代战机的吧，如果霓虹装备了肥电，棒子估计坐不住，会紧跟脚步。
不是那神马正在研制中吗？
棒子想要35起码要20年后的事了。
如果棒子买了T-50,那会不会和他自己的教练机T-50产生混淆？
应该就是F-35了，至于KFX可能就停留在模型阶段了
民工kj 发表于 2011-10-17 18:47 ![]()
如果棒子买了T-50,那会不会和他自己的教练机T-50产生混淆？
棒子会把俄版T-50改名为T-49的。
如果棒子买了T-50,那会不会和他自己的教练机T-50产生混淆？
棒子会把俄版T-50改名为T-49的。
其实韩国也算是一个军工强国，只不过牛皮吹的优点大。
F35不解释。。。
最经济最现实最快的选择是F15SE，当然棒子肯定不会选这个
民工kj 发表于 2011-10-17 18:47
如果棒子买了T-50,那会不会和他自己的教练机T-50产生混淆？
应该不会，t-50应该是研发代号，就像苏27的T-10。等搞的差不多的时候会给个生产代号，比方su-250等等。嗯，应该是单数，那就半个250，苏125就是了。
民工kj 发表于 2011-10-17 18:47
如果棒子买了T-50,那会不会和他自己的教练机T-50产生混淆？
应该不会，t-50应该是研发代号，就像苏27的T-10。等搞的差不多的时候会给个生产代号，比方su-250等等。嗯，应该是单数，那就半个250，苏125就是了。
肯定是F-35了，现在就看折扣问题……
看好肥仔，话说肥仔的销量会不会超越前辈石榴捏
人家有歼星舰
miaomiaomiao 发表于 2011-10-17 19:47 ![]()
应该不会，t-50应该是研发代号，就像苏27的T-10。等搞的差不多的时候会给个生产代号，比方su-250等等。 ...
是的！！！
应该不会，t-50应该是研发代号，就像苏27的T-10。等搞的差不多的时候会给个生产代号，比方su-250等等。 ...
是的！！！
其实韩国也算是一个军工强国，只不过牛皮吹的优点大。
只能说是美制武器的组装厂，离开老美，不比三哥强多少
只能说是美制武器的组装厂，离开老美，不比三哥强多少
棒子的手机比阿3做组装的好，说明棒子比阿3有独到之处。
到底成功地搞定了T50金鹰啊，阿3现在还一事无成。发射火箭比棒子强。
到底成功地搞定了T50金鹰啊，阿3现在还一事无成。发射火箭比棒子强。T50没希望的，当年棒子买飞机Su35不也去了么，表现再好也就是个打酱油的
如果MD卖，棒子肯定选F22，可惜人家不卖。
棒子啥都要最好的，人家心气高。
棒子啥都要最好的，人家心气高。
很奇怪！棒子不是号称有自研的五代么？难道自己的棒幼不如别人的儿子好？？？
这类美国附庸国家或者说就是美国属国都有装备新战机的计划，它们都在等，等什么呢？对它们而言，等的就是J20是否是忽悠。如果不是，它们就选四代机;如果是，它们就选三代加。从这个角度继续分析下去就会发现，咱的邪恶女神玩弄着很多国家！
棒子的手机比阿3做组装的好，说明棒子比阿3有独到之处。到底成功地搞定了T50金鹰啊，阿3现在还一事 ...
T50金鹰只是教练机，阿三的LCA毕竟是战斗机！金鹰是和美国合研，阿三的LCA还打着独立的名义！
T50金鹰只是教练机，阿三的LCA毕竟是战斗机！金鹰是和美国合研，阿三的LCA还打着独立的名义！