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PLA plans to seize islands in South China Sea by surprise(解放军计划闪击夺取南海诸岛)

这个老美的militaryphotos论坛是转述日本人的新闻,当然新闻内容基本都是扯淡了,我只翻译一下美国人的回复,感觉西方人对我们的偏见根深蒂固,很纠结:Q ,不过丝带出来后也就释然了,管他娘的。。。
发帖者先发言:
Well, let the war begin in South China Sea....
就让南中国海开战吧。。。

Not a surprise anymore
不再感到奇怪

you ruined the surprise
你曝光了这计划
He must pay
楼上的,楼主会付出代价滴。。

They're getting rich. They can do anything they want. But China, as warlike a nation as you are. Don't forget. The rest of you neighbors are just as warlike
他们越来越富裕,他们可以想做任何想做的事。但是,中国,请不要忘记,像你这个好战的国家,你周围的邻居也会一样好战的。

SUPPLIES! oh wait thats Japanese.

What about them NK trying to surprise-sieze SK islands
求链接。。。哦。。等等。。那是日语唉。。。
北朝鲜奇袭南朝鲜占领岛屿会怎么样?

Very unlikely IMO, both from a political and military point of view. Why should China do anything that would harm it's economy? And from the military point of view I'd say that China is not abeld to carry out such a hughe scale amphibious operation because it's Navy is not capable enough to support such an operation in terms of transport and security means. Neither can it's airforce because it lacks force-multipliers such as AWACS and tankers. It has some planes with a range that is high enough to reach targets in the South Chinese Sea (J-11) but no sufficient amount of them is availible for constant airsupport
这不大可能,无论从军事还是政治角度来讲,为什么中国要做对他们经济有害的事?从军事角度讲,我已经说过中国还没有能力发动一场这样大规模的军事行动,因为他们的海军还没有足够的能力为这种行动提供可靠的后勤和护航手段。他们的空军也没有这个能力因为他们缺乏像预警机和加油机这样的战力手段。他们拥有一些能够到达南海海域的像J-11这样的飞机,但是因为数量不足而无法提供不间断的军事支持。

How many countries has China invaded
中国侵略过多少国家?

Vietnam for one.
越南是一个

So .... what exactly is so bullyish? All major countries (the 'US, Russia and others) have military plans for any eventuality. The US probably has plans for a potential war with Canada, France for a potential conflict with England or Germany and Russia for a potential conflict with China. Whilst a certain concern might be legitimate, the drama made of a military plan here is pretty hilarious
这些话到底在扯什么蛋?所有的大国(美、俄。。。)都有军事计划,美国可能已经计划对加拿大发动战争,法国可能与英国有潜在冲突或者说德国和俄国与中国有潜在冲突。。。虽然保持一定的关注是可以的,但是要是说存在军事计划就有些胡闹了

1950 Tibet
1979 Vietnam
1994 Phillipines
1950年侵略西藏
1979年侵略越南
1994年侵略菲律宾

All close to them, interesting...no ambitions there
都靠近他们

also India
印度也算

1947 Mongolia
1949 Turkestan
1950 Tibet
1979 Vietnam
1994 Phillipines
1947年蒙古
1949年土耳其斯坦(难道说新疆?)
1950年西藏
1979年越南
1994年菲律宾

just plaing as a coming-soon world power is supposed to play, if true.
We could find similar records for France, UK, the US, etc. back in time. Nothing to be surprised, I guess.
However: the fact that the plan is being disclosed in that way makes it hard to believe it´s reliable.
如果是真的,就像是一个即将到来的世界霸权计划要做的事。。
我们可以从法国、英国和美国人身上找到相似的记录。我觉得没啥值得奇怪的。
不过:事实是,这些计划都他妈已经公开了,这就很难让人相信了

They stayed down (aside of one skirmish with Vietnamese navy) till now because they didn´t want to go in war with Vietnam, Philipines and Malaysia. Right now, they just don´t care because they know that neither Vietnam nor any other country (as Philipines demonstrated back in 94) won´t go to the war with them over few uninhabited islands and if they do it will be a quick local shirmish with their victory. And as for the few islands administrated by ROC, Taiwan won´t move a finger to defend them
他们直到现在还保持不动(除了一次与越南海军的冲突)是因为他们现在还不想与越南、菲律宾和马来西亚打仗。这个时候,他们不在乎是因为他们知道像越南这样的国家都不敢因为几个争议的岛屿而发动战争,一旦哪个国家动了,中国将很快的取得局部冲突的胜利。台湾都他妈占了几个岛屿不也照样没人敢动吗

I wonder why did US drop the A-bomb on the 'peace-loving' nippon?
我想不通为什么美国人要用原子弹轰炸热爱和平的日本?


Maybe China will too turn into a peace-loving nation after the US drops a nuke or two
也许美国也向中国扔下一到两个原子弹后他们也会变成热爱和平的国家

Its our most sincere form of gratitude to nations we have a deep love for...........
扔核弹向我们深爱的国家表达感谢的最真诚的方式。。。。
We wont have to drop a bomb. We will win over Chinese hearts and minds.  
我们 不必扔核弹,我们会赢得中国人民的心

ChiComs tried to take the Taiwanese island of Quemoy (or Kinmen) by amphibious assault in 1949 and failed, and then they tried artillery bombarding the island in 1958 and also failed
中国人1949年试图用两栖攻击键夺取金门但是失败了,1958年他们炮击金门但是也失败了


Come on, does ANYONE think that China and mobilize a force like this and not been seen on Sats
得了吧,真有人以为中国动员这样的力量会不被发现啊?

Good luck with invasion China  
I do not recall China has a good martial record when it comes to invading and colonizing other countries. However they are good at civil wars though
祝愿入侵好运
我记得中国历史上好像还没有侵略他国的记录
不过他们打内战倒是挺在行PLA plans to seize islands in South China Sea by surprise(解放军计划闪击夺取南海诸岛)

这个老美的militaryphotos论坛是转述日本人的新闻,当然新闻内容基本都是扯淡了,我只翻译一下美国人的回复,感觉西方人对我们的偏见根深蒂固,很纠结:Q ,不过丝带出来后也就释然了,管他娘的。。。
发帖者先发言:
Well, let the war begin in South China Sea....
就让南中国海开战吧。。。

Not a surprise anymore
不再感到奇怪

you ruined the surprise
你曝光了这计划
He must pay
楼上的,楼主会付出代价滴。。

They're getting rich. They can do anything they want. But China, as warlike a nation as you are. Don't forget. The rest of you neighbors are just as warlike
他们越来越富裕,他们可以想做任何想做的事。但是,中国,请不要忘记,像你这个好战的国家,你周围的邻居也会一样好战的。

SUPPLIES! oh wait thats Japanese.

What about them NK trying to surprise-sieze SK islands
求链接。。。哦。。等等。。那是日语唉。。。
北朝鲜奇袭南朝鲜占领岛屿会怎么样?

Very unlikely IMO, both from a political and military point of view. Why should China do anything that would harm it's economy? And from the military point of view I'd say that China is not abeld to carry out such a hughe scale amphibious operation because it's Navy is not capable enough to support such an operation in terms of transport and security means. Neither can it's airforce because it lacks force-multipliers such as AWACS and tankers. It has some planes with a range that is high enough to reach targets in the South Chinese Sea (J-11) but no sufficient amount of them is availible for constant airsupport
这不大可能,无论从军事还是政治角度来讲,为什么中国要做对他们经济有害的事?从军事角度讲,我已经说过中国还没有能力发动一场这样大规模的军事行动,因为他们的海军还没有足够的能力为这种行动提供可靠的后勤和护航手段。他们的空军也没有这个能力因为他们缺乏像预警机和加油机这样的战力手段。他们拥有一些能够到达南海海域的像J-11这样的飞机,但是因为数量不足而无法提供不间断的军事支持。

How many countries has China invaded
中国侵略过多少国家?

Vietnam for one.
越南是一个

So .... what exactly is so bullyish? All major countries (the 'US, Russia and others) have military plans for any eventuality. The US probably has plans for a potential war with Canada, France for a potential conflict with England or Germany and Russia for a potential conflict with China. Whilst a certain concern might be legitimate, the drama made of a military plan here is pretty hilarious
这些话到底在扯什么蛋?所有的大国(美、俄。。。)都有军事计划,美国可能已经计划对加拿大发动战争,法国可能与英国有潜在冲突或者说德国和俄国与中国有潜在冲突。。。虽然保持一定的关注是可以的,但是要是说存在军事计划就有些胡闹了

1950 Tibet
1979 Vietnam
1994 Phillipines
1950年侵略西藏
1979年侵略越南
1994年侵略菲律宾

All close to them, interesting...no ambitions there
都靠近他们

also India
印度也算

1947 Mongolia
1949 Turkestan
1950 Tibet
1979 Vietnam
1994 Phillipines
1947年蒙古
1949年土耳其斯坦(难道说新疆?)
1950年西藏
1979年越南
1994年菲律宾

just plaing as a coming-soon world power is supposed to play, if true.
We could find similar records for France, UK, the US, etc. back in time. Nothing to be surprised, I guess.
However: the fact that the plan is being disclosed in that way makes it hard to believe it´s reliable.
如果是真的,就像是一个即将到来的世界霸权计划要做的事。。
我们可以从法国、英国和美国人身上找到相似的记录。我觉得没啥值得奇怪的。
不过:事实是,这些计划都他妈已经公开了,这就很难让人相信了

They stayed down (aside of one skirmish with Vietnamese navy) till now because they didn´t want to go in war with Vietnam, Philipines and Malaysia. Right now, they just don´t care because they know that neither Vietnam nor any other country (as Philipines demonstrated back in 94) won´t go to the war with them over few uninhabited islands and if they do it will be a quick local shirmish with their victory. And as for the few islands administrated by ROC, Taiwan won´t move a finger to defend them
他们直到现在还保持不动(除了一次与越南海军的冲突)是因为他们现在还不想与越南、菲律宾和马来西亚打仗。这个时候,他们不在乎是因为他们知道像越南这样的国家都不敢因为几个争议的岛屿而发动战争,一旦哪个国家动了,中国将很快的取得局部冲突的胜利。台湾都他妈占了几个岛屿不也照样没人敢动吗

I wonder why did US drop the A-bomb on the 'peace-loving' nippon?
我想不通为什么美国人要用原子弹轰炸热爱和平的日本?


Maybe China will too turn into a peace-loving nation after the US drops a nuke or two
也许美国也向中国扔下一到两个原子弹后他们也会变成热爱和平的国家

Its our most sincere form of gratitude to nations we have a deep love for...........
扔核弹向我们深爱的国家表达感谢的最真诚的方式。。。。
We wont have to drop a bomb. We will win over Chinese hearts and minds.  
我们 不必扔核弹,我们会赢得中国人民的心

ChiComs tried to take the Taiwanese island of Quemoy (or Kinmen) by amphibious assault in 1949 and failed, and then they tried artillery bombarding the island in 1958 and also failed
中国人1949年试图用两栖攻击键夺取金门但是失败了,1958年他们炮击金门但是也失败了


Come on, does ANYONE think that China and mobilize a force like this and not been seen on Sats
得了吧,真有人以为中国动员这样的力量会不被发现啊?

Good luck with invasion China  
I do not recall China has a good martial record when it comes to invading and colonizing other countries. However they are good at civil wars though
祝愿入侵好运
我记得中国历史上好像还没有侵略他国的记录
不过他们打内战倒是挺在行
老美普通军迷好象对PLA的战略核力量不大了解...看过好几次美愤说要向中国扔核弹了,反而是英德的人出来和稀泥
Good luck with invasion China  
I do not recall China has a good martial record when it comes to invading and colonizing other countries. However they are good at civil wars though
祝愿入侵好运
我记得中国历史上好像还没有侵略他国的记录
不过他们打内战倒是挺在行


这谁/。。。。
日本还是各种挑拨 中国和东南亚各国的关系啊
778856 发表于 2011-1-1 09:51

我们的历史课本上什么时候能写上夏威夷阿拉斯加啥的不是美国的领土就好了。。。干
上面的网民可分为几类人:1被藏独洗脑,2自我感觉良好,3对中国的情况无知到可怕的程度,4认识还停留在70年代的中国,5客观且了解一些当前中国情况的米国人(就是说了一大篇话那位)。
778856 发表于 2011-1-1 09:51

在MP这类有隐藏白人至上主义的论坛上,日本也得不到什么好态度

最好笑的是北方四岛那事,鬼子发贴想找同情,结果一干平时不大待见毛子的欧美白人都站在俄罗斯一边,鬼子吃了一脸灰
这多半又是鬼子造谣,小动作不断啊!小鬼子玩这一套是本能,见怪不怪了。
新的一个回复。
Well they did, they invaded and colonized ancient Vietnam for like a thousand years before they were kicked out in around 1000 A.D and they continuously tried to invade but failed in later time.

You got the point about the economic strength, but economic strength and military strength are always together. When you have more money, you would try to at least show off your new car to your less-wealthy labor or to even bully him.

I think we have seen various show-off-presentation by China, the 'bullying' part is yet to be seen but it's not impossible.
他们侵略了,他们曾经侵略了越南并且殖民了越南上千年直到公元1000年左右他们被赶走,他们仍然试图侵略但是失败了
关于经济力量你说对了,但是经济力量往往是同军事力量一起的,当你有了更多的钱的时候,你会向你的邻居炫耀你新买的车甚至会欺负他们
我想我们已经看到许多方面中国的显示存在,他们现在还没有欺负别人并不代表不可能。
以后我们实力够了,一定得和白人玩双重标准
回复 2# pochu


    上次肯尼迪说要往苏联丢核弹,也是英国人出来和稀泥。。。。。
鸟他作甚
pirate_1989 发表于 2011-1-1 11:10

最让俺感到可笑的是这个回复:
I wonder why did US drop the A-bomb on the 'peace-loving' nippon?
我想不通为什么美国人要用原子弹轰炸热爱和平的日本
   
呵呵,这世界, 太他妈有意思了,当年的战争狂人如今成了和平鸽了;P
加州佬:T-bag独立!T-bag自由!
记者:你知道T-bag在什么地方吗?
加州佬:无所谓!我唯一知道的就是,加利福尼亚是地球上最强大的国家……

我吐~~~~~ {:3_91:}
天高任鸿飞 发表于 2011-1-1 11:13

我觉得这只是特例...

去年广岛原子弹纪念日的雅虎报道,有几个日粪留言骂美国人,结果被众美帝网民喷了一脸屎
pochu 发表于 2011-1-1 11:18

其实我是怀疑这个回复是个日本人回复的;P
We wont have to drop a bomb. We will win over Chinese hearts and minds.  
我们 不必扔核弹,我们会赢得中国人民的心

这句话值得ZF反思
avedd 发表于 2011-1-1 11:13


    是Tbat吧,t_bag是越狱那家伙。
dy52 发表于 2011-1-1 11:26

也许美国佬真的以为他们能把我们的老百姓给忽悠了。。。

不过我不看好这种忽悠。。。;P
美国人也太井底之蛙了,我去,真看不出是资讯发达时代的人
COOPY 发表于 2011-1-1 11:48

舆论使然,也许美国人就是想保持这个世界上有一个强大的敌人。。。。偏偏轮到我们了
pirate_1989 发表于 2011-1-1 11:10


    貌似一开始朝鲜战争时杜鲁门还是艾森豪威尔要往中国扔也是他们出来和稀泥:D
tomlin86 发表于 2011-1-1 11:43

没看过巴黎火炬时的那个笑话?
回复 21# 天高任鸿飞


    只要中国持续发展,终究会有被美国当做敌人的那天,伸头缩头都会有一刀的,跨过这道坎就是山顶了!
avedd 发表于 2011-1-1 12:14

这个真不知道,讲讲?
回复 19# 天高任鸿飞


    他们的做法很成功。
井底之蛙、资讯不发达?都不是,这是他们zf的舆论使然(侧面打脸所谓西方言论自由),我在韩国留学的同学回来都反映,韩国电视台播放的有关中国的资料全是6、70年代的东西,他们去同学家做客,对方关切的询问他们是否见过电视机、手机、汽车一类的东西~~美国可能没这么夸张,但是在舆论导向上的思路应该也是这样,例如对xz、rq等内容的宣传~~
和稀泥的事情大家都做,苏联要核攻击中国的时候,也是美国提醒的中国~~大家互相约束制衡罢了~~
“中国,请不要忘记,像你这个好战的国家,你周围的邻居也会一样好战的。”TMD先撒泡尿自己照照,从朝鲜到越南,从阿富汗到伊拉克,事实表明,不除掉MD世界就永无宁日!
天高任鸿飞 发表于 2011-1-1 12:18

搜索:巴黎 火炬 free t-bag
“也许美国也向中国扔下一到两个原子弹后他们也会变成热爱和平的国家”。TMD你扔扔试试!
avedd 发表于 2011-1-1 12:22


  谢谢
日本人一如既往的阴险,我们要时刻提防这个邻居。
天高任鸿飞 发表于 2011-1-1 12:25

笑话大意是:

藏独收买当地人摇旗呐喊,当地人对Tibet没概念,喊的是:“Free T-Bag!”
藏独告诉他们:错了!当地人喊:“Free to bed!”
藏独告诉他们:又错了!当地人:“草!真麻烦。不弄了~~~~~”
日本竟然成了热爱和平的国家。。。。。
这个世界真疯狂,最大的战争贩子美帝竟然标榜自己和平,庆父不死鲁难未已啊。。。。。。。

美帝在,世界就不会和平!!!
dafengfei 发表于 2011-1-1 12:36

    很显然,被邪恶的美帝政府洗脑了~~~~
其实与其不干老让人说干了!还不如干他娘的一干 让他们不敢说!!!
1994年侵略菲律宾


距离太远,分散太广,牵扯国家太多,没法闪击
说日本爱好和平那个明显是讽刺,没看见原文加引号吗