这个美国人评价,我认为是比较客观的

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From what I have read, in terms of

acceleration, EF-2000> Rafale/the Flanker/F-15/fulcrum> F-16> F-18.
ITRs, Flanker, Fulcrum > Rafale/F-18/EF-2000? > F-16
STRs, Eurocanards > Flanker/f-16> MiG-29 > F-15 > F-18

The flankers are are older versions, and the MiG-29 is a downgraded luftwaffe bird. The viper is an F-16 Blk 50, the hornet is an E/F. The Eagle is C. Rest assured, the later models for the russian birds will be better in most depts. Kind of opposite that of the teens, in that later models esp. the 16 and 18 have sacrificed performance over earlier models. The Eurocanards will be equivalent and even better than late model flanker/fulcrum performance in some areas.

Another important criteria that the Shornet might not fare so well in could be range. Esp. with the drag and outward pointed pylons. The euro designs are known to supercruise with EFTs. And the flanker's range is legendary.

As PFCEM was saying, its the role that the shornet is designed for - a role that can be used to full advantage only by the USN. And there it is excellent. For land based AFs with a solid need for A2A and no need for carrier ops, however, a flanker or rafale or ef-2000 and possibly a Mig-35 might be better choices. Not surprisingly, the RMAF preferred the MKM to the Super Hornet and that is important considering they had previous experience with the Hornet.

Understandably, the Aussies bought the Shornet as an interim measure. fair enough considering it will fit in well with a force that uses similar a/c and weapons. No need here for an EF-2000/Rafale/Flanker, not when the JSF is just around the corner.

USS.

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Last edited by uss novice; 20th October 2009 at 21:31.From what I have read, in terms of

acceleration, EF-2000> Rafale/the Flanker/F-15/fulcrum> F-16> F-18.
ITRs, Flanker, Fulcrum > Rafale/F-18/EF-2000? > F-16
STRs, Eurocanards > Flanker/f-16> MiG-29 > F-15 > F-18

The flankers are are older versions, and the MiG-29 is a downgraded luftwaffe bird. The viper is an F-16 Blk 50, the hornet is an E/F. The Eagle is C. Rest assured, the later models for the russian birds will be better in most depts. Kind of opposite that of the teens, in that later models esp. the 16 and 18 have sacrificed performance over earlier models. The Eurocanards will be equivalent and even better than late model flanker/fulcrum performance in some areas.

Another important criteria that the Shornet might not fare so well in could be range. Esp. with the drag and outward pointed pylons. The euro designs are known to supercruise with EFTs. And the flanker's range is legendary.

As PFCEM was saying, its the role that the shornet is designed for - a role that can be used to full advantage only by the USN. And there it is excellent. For land based AFs with a solid need for A2A and no need for carrier ops, however, a flanker or rafale or ef-2000 and possibly a Mig-35 might be better choices. Not surprisingly, the RMAF preferred the MKM to the Super Hornet and that is important considering they had previous experience with the Hornet.

Understandably, the Aussies bought the Shornet as an interim measure. fair enough considering it will fit in well with a force that uses similar a/c and weapons. No need here for an EF-2000/Rafale/Flanker, not when the JSF is just around the corner.

USS.

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Last edited by uss novice; 20th October 2009 at 21:31.
LZ在这里考大家英语四级?:lol
一点不靠谱的话忽悠不了人的!只有真的假的掺合着才是骗人的美国在此方面的水平确实是登峰造极的!不服都不行的!
metro 发表于 2009-10-21 15:09

不喜欢这个鸟文的飘过。。。
翻译再加上我对其它飞机和项目的看法

加速性, EF-2000/j8f> j10/Rafale/the Flanker/F-15/fulcrum> F-16> F-18.
瞬间盘旋, Flanker, Fulcrum > j10/Rafale/F-18/EF-2000? > F-16〉j8
稳定盘旋, Eurocanards >j10/ Flanker/f-16> MiG-29 > F-15 > F-18/j8
电子战/雷达,f18/f15〉EF-2000/Rafale/j10/f16〉Flanker/fulcrum/j8.
隐身,f18/Rafale/j10〉f16/EF-2000〉f15/Flanker/fulcrum/j8。

结论是j8有用便宜但是综合最差,在j15出来就不再装备共军了。
rongzhili.au 发表于 2009-10-21 15:58
看到第一行就吐得不行了。[:a13:]
把八爷和台风、超虫、石榴、阵风这些战机放在一起比较,不是打TB的脸嘛!!!
就是!!!
rongzhili.au 发表于 2009-10-21 15:58
饶了八爷吧,非要把人家到处夹队进去不嫌丢人啊
[:a6:]谁叫8爷是美帝最了解的TG机机.
哎.没点文化不敢上超大啊........................:D
rongzhili.au 发表于 2009-10-21 15:05
霉国叫US,不叫USS。

USS Novice是个留美的阿三,发霉香蕉。
acceleration, EF-2000> Rafale/the Flanker/F-15

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
人家根本没提TG的鸡鸡啊,楼上某位硬加上去的。
为什么硬要把TG的JJ塞进去。

别人压根没提及...........
同感
{:3_96:} 我承认我不懂。美国人写的东西。有时候也很不靠谱啊。
这段时间一直在发表言论说TG的航母会难产。这说明航母有戏了,窃以为。
八爷是老当益壮,其实是想退下来去没人接班,所以~~~
管他说啥!!!!
1895tet 发表于 2009-10-21 19:56
j8和20年前大不一样了,发动机推力从不到7吨增加到8.3吨,复合材料/铝锂合金从零到10%以上,从没有中程导弹到主动中程导弹,雷达从不能用到看100多公里
rongzhili.au 发表于 2009-10-22 16:13
看标题还以为你想穿BKC,现在才知道你是红卫兵本色不变呀,只是为什么非要拿J8F来说了,现在很难说清歼八这个系列在共军体系里还能呆多久,或许过不了几年咱们只能在博物馆里才找到八爷了...:L (怎么咱也穿HKC了)
J-8F在操作上使用上和J-10是一样的
这种比较非常无聊!