一个USMC队员在伊拉克的经验!

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一个USMC队员在伊拉克的经验! 一个USMC队员在伊拉克的经验! 感谢"作战2000论坛"的"KSK精英"兄和NightElf 兄帮我翻译!感谢D教授! <a href="http://forum.combat2000shop.com/viewthread.php?tid=58610&pid=906605&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid906605">http://forum.combat2000shop.com/viewthread.php?tid=58610&pid=906605&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid906605</a>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Got this from a former Marine first sergeant - thought you might be >interested in his son's assessment of weapons and enemy tactics in Iraq >(the boy is home from his first tour, going back in early 2006, and early >re-enlisted for another 4 years.) > > > > Hello to all my fellow gunners, military buffs, veterans and interested >guys. A couple of weekends ago I got to spend time with my son Jordan, who >was on his first leave since returning from Iraq. He is well (a little >thin), and already bored. He will be returning to Iraq for a second tour >in early '06 and has already re-enlisted early for 4 more years. He loves >the Marine Corps and is actually looking forward to returning to Iraq. > > > > Jordan spent 7 months at "Camp Blue Diamond" in Ramadi. Aka: Fort >Apache. He saw and did a lot and the following is what he told me about >weapons, equipment, tactics and other miscellaneous info which may be of >interest to you. Nothing is by any means classified. No politics here, >just a Marine with a bird's eye view's opinions: 1) The M-16 rifle : Thumbs down. Chronic jamming problems with the >talcum powder like sand over there. The sand is everywhere. Jordan says >you feel filthy 2 minutes after coming out of the shower. The M-4 carbine >version is more popular because it's lighter and shorter, but it has >jamming problems also. They like the ability to mount the various optical >gunsights and weapons lights on the picattiny rails, but the weapon itself >is not great in a desert environment. They all hate the 5.56mm (.223) >round. Poor penetration on the cinderblock structure common over there and >even torso hits cant be reliably counted on to put the enemy down. Fun >fact: Random autopsies on dead insurgents shows a high level of opiate use.     M16步枪：令人失望的武器。到处的象爽身粉一样细的沙子导致连续不断的导气系统故障。在伊拉克，到处都是沙子。据JORDAN说当你刚洗完澡刚刚两分钟，你就感到身上脏的难受了。由于更轻更短，M-4卡宾型号更受欢迎，但它也有和M16同样的毛病。由于可以在皮卡丁尼上安装各种战术瞄准具以及战术灯，M4受到陆战队员的喜爱，但在沙漠环境中并不是一件优秀的武器。所有的陆战队员都很讨厌5.56毫米弹药（.223),普遍存在着对墙体穿透力差的问题。甚至躯干中弹也不能确保将敌人放倒。 在伊拉克的海军陆战队SAM <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736011.jpg" border="0" alt=""/><img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736011.jpg" border="0" alt=""/> 一个USMC队员在伊拉克的经验! 一个USMC队员在伊拉克的经验! 感谢"作战2000论坛"的"KSK精英"兄和NightElf 兄帮我翻译!感谢D教授! <a href="http://forum.combat2000shop.com/viewthread.php?tid=58610&pid=906605&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid906605">http://forum.combat2000shop.com/viewthread.php?tid=58610&pid=906605&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid906605</a>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Got this from a former Marine first sergeant - thought you might be >interested in his son's assessment of weapons and enemy tactics in Iraq >(the boy is home from his first tour, going back in early 2006, and early >re-enlisted for another 4 years.) > > > > Hello to all my fellow gunners, military buffs, veterans and interested >guys. A couple of weekends ago I got to spend time with my son Jordan, who >was on his first leave since returning from Iraq. He is well (a little >thin), and already bored. He will be returning to Iraq for a second tour >in early '06 and has already re-enlisted early for 4 more years. He loves >the Marine Corps and is actually looking forward to returning to Iraq. > > > > Jordan spent 7 months at "Camp Blue Diamond" in Ramadi. Aka: Fort >Apache. He saw and did a lot and the following is what he told me about >weapons, equipment, tactics and other miscellaneous info which may be of >interest to you. Nothing is by any means classified. No politics here, >just a Marine with a bird's eye view's opinions: 1) The M-16 rifle : Thumbs down. Chronic jamming problems with the >talcum powder like sand over there. The sand is everywhere. Jordan says >you feel filthy 2 minutes after coming out of the shower. The M-4 carbine >version is more popular because it's lighter and shorter, but it has >jamming problems also. They like the ability to mount the various optical >gunsights and weapons lights on the picattiny rails, but the weapon itself >is not great in a desert environment. They all hate the 5.56mm (.223) >round. Poor penetration on the cinderblock structure common over there and >even torso hits cant be reliably counted on to put the enemy down. Fun >fact: Random autopsies on dead insurgents shows a high level of opiate use.     M16步枪：令人失望的武器。到处的象爽身粉一样细的沙子导致连续不断的导气系统故障。在伊拉克，到处都是沙子。据JORDAN说当你刚洗完澡刚刚两分钟，你就感到身上脏的难受了。由于更轻更短，M-4卡宾型号更受欢迎，但它也有和M16同样的毛病。由于可以在皮卡丁尼上安装各种战术瞄准具以及战术灯，M4受到陆战队员的喜爱，但在沙漠环境中并不是一件优秀的武器。所有的陆战队员都很讨厌5.56毫米弹药（.223),普遍存在着对墙体穿透力差的问题。甚至躯干中弹也不能确保将敌人放倒。 在伊拉克的海军陆战队SAM <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736011.jpg" border="0" alt=""/><img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736011.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

美军的5.56X45mm M855步枪弹  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736018.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736019.gif" border="0" alt=""/>  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736022.gif" border="0" alt=""/> M855弹的明胶穿透实验   <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736024.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

2) The M249 SAW (squad assault weapon): 223 cal. Drum fed light >machine gun. Big thumbs down. Universally considered a piece of shit. >Chronic jamming problems, most of which require partial disassembly. >(that's fun in the middle of a firefight). M249班用机枪：.223口径，采用弹箱供弹。令人极度失望，通常认为就是一堆屎。连续不断的导气系统故障，需要频繁地进行分解清洁。（在战斗过程中这样做确实很可笑） 海军陆战队第6团第1营B连的一名机枪手  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736036.jpg" border="0" alt=""/> 3) The M9 Beretta 9mm: Mixed bag. Good gun, performs well in desert >environment; but they all hate the 9mm cartridge. The use of handguns for >self-defense is actually fairly common. Same old story on the 9mm: Bad >guys hit multiple times and still in the fight. M9“被雷打”手枪：毁誉参半。是一支在沙漠环境中表现出色的好枪。但队员们普遍讨厌9毫米弹药。使用手枪进行自慰确实是相当普遍的事。9毫米弹药的老毛病：武装分子中弹多次仍能战斗。   海军陆战队“持久自由”行动的M9纪念手枪  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736048.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

4) Mossberg 12ga. Military shotgun: Works well, used frequently for >clearing houses to good effect. 12号口径莫斯博格军用霰弹枪：表现良好，在房间清除战斗中频繁使用，并取得良好效果。 5) The M240 Machine Gun: 7.62 Nato (.308) cal. belt fed machine gun, >developed to replace the old M-60 (what a beautiful weapon that was!!). >Thumbs up. Accurate, reliable, and the 7.62 round puts 'em down. >Originally developed as a vehicle mounted weapon, more and more are being >dismounted and taken into the field by infantry. The 7.62 round chews up >the structure over there. M240机枪：弹链供弹机枪，采用7。62毫米北约弹。用来发展以替代老的M-60机枪。不错的武器。精确，可靠，其7。62毫米子弹可确保击倒敌人。M240原先由车栽武器发展而来，越来越多地被取下并被步兵投入战场。其7。62毫米弹药具有可靠的杀伤力。 美海军陆战队的7.62X51mm口径M240G通用机枪 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736055.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

6) The M2 .50 cal heavy machine gun: Thumbs way, way up. "Ma deuce" >is still worth her considerable weight in gold. The ultimate fight >stopper, puts their dicks in the dirt every time. The most coveted weapon >in-theater. .50口径M-2重机枪：优秀的武器。"Ma deuce" （M2的绰号）仍然是陆战队员的无价之宝。终极战斗武器，每次都能将武装分子打得屁滚尿流，在战场上最梦寐以求的装备。 勃朗宁M2HB 12.7毫米机枪 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736065.jpg" border="0" alt=""/><img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736065.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736145.jpg" border="0" alt=""/> 7) The .45 pistol: Thumbs up. Still the best pistol round out there. >Everybody authorized to carry a sidearm is trying to get their hands on >one. With few exceptions, can reliably be expected to put 'em down with a >torso hit. The special ops guys (who are doing most of the pistol work) >use the HK military model and supposedly love it. The old government model >.45's are being re-issued en masse. .45口径自动手枪：不错的武器.仍然是在战场上最优秀的手枪.那些允许有副武器人都渴望在他们的手边有上一把.毫无疑问,只要躯干中弹,即能把对手放倒.那些特种部队的战士(需要频繁使用手枪)使用的是HK公司的军用型号,而且据传深受其喜爱.老的政府版型号现在重新被大量装备. 文中提到的"特种部队的战士使用的是HK公司的军用型号"不知是不是HK的.45口径 Mk23特种作战突击队手枪 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736074.jpg" border="0" alt=""/> 文中提到的柯尔特.45口径 M1911A1政府型  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736095.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

8）The M-14: Thumbs up. They are being re-issued in bulk, mostly in a >modified version to special ops guys. Modifications include lightweight >Kevlar stocks and low power red dot or ACOG sights. Very reliable in the >sandy environment, and they love the 7.62 round. M14步枪：不错的武器。他们被重新大量装备部队，大部分是特种部队的改进版。其改进包括轻量的凯夫拉枪托，增加红点瞄准具或ACOG瞄准具。M14在沙漠环境中具有很好的可靠性，并且7。62毫米弹药深受喜爱。 文中提到的加了ACOG瞄具的M14. 呵!用M14的精确支援射手居然背M136火箭筒,看来M136是班内成员轮流背的. <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736102.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736351.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>美特种部队用SOPMOD M14,也加了ACOG瞄具. <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736108.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

9) The Barrett .50 cal sniper rifle: Thumbs way up. Spectacular range >and accuracy and hits like a freight train. Used frequently to take out >vehicle suicide bombers ( we actually stop a lot of them) and barricaded >enemy. Definitely here to stay. 巴雷特.50口径狙击步枪：值得赞扬。拥有出色的射程和精度，打起来的感觉就象货柜列车一样。经常用来消灭自杀性车辆和设置障碍的敌人。在这里绝对是一件非常适合的装备。美海军陆战队装备的巴雷特12.7mm口径M82A3大口径狙击步枪 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736118.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>10) The M24 sniper rifle: Thumbs up. Mostly in .308 but some in 300 >win mag. Heavily modified Remington 700's. Great performance. Snipers >have been used heavily to great effect. Rumor has it that a marine sniper >on his third tour in Anbar province has actually exceeded Carlos Hathcock's >record for confirmed kills with OVER 100. M24狙击步枪：值得赞扬。大多数使用.308弹药，一些使用.300温彻斯特弹药.M24是雷鸣顿700的大量改进版。表现出色。M24被狙击手大量使用，并取得了骄人的效果。据传，一名陆战队狙击手在他的Anbar省的第三次行动中，以超过100个的可确认狙杀超过了Carlos Hathcock保持的记录。  (疑问:美海军陆战队装备的应该是M40A1/A3,而M24应该是陆军的装备才对呀!?)   美海军陆战队装备的M40A3  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736122.jpg" border="0" alt=""/> 美陆军装备的M24  <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736123.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

11) The new body armor: Thumbs up. Relatively light at approx. 6 lbs. >and can reliably be expected to soak up small shrapnel and even will stop >an AK-47 round. The bad news: Hot as shit to wear, almost unbearable in >the summer heat (which averages over 120 degrees). Also, the enemy now >goes for head shots whenever possible. All the bullshit about the "old" >body armor making our guys vulnerable to the IED's was a non-starter. The >IED explosions are enormous and body armor doesn't make any difference at >all in most cases. 新型的防弹衣：值得赞扬。只有6磅重，相对较轻。可以可靠地抵御小的榴弹弹片，甚至可以抵挡AK-47的子弹。缺点：穿起来非常热，在夏天炎热的环境里令人难以忍受。同时，敌人也会尽可能地打你的头部。旧的防蛋衣使得我们的人在简易爆炸装置前非常容易受伤,抵挡住是一件不可能的事。简易爆炸装置的威力巨大，在大多数场合，穿不穿几乎没有什么不同。 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736126.jpg" border="0" alt=""/> 12) Night Vision and Infrared Equipment: Thumbs way up. Spectacular performance. Our guys see in the d-ark and own the night, period. Very little enemy action after evening prayers. More and more enemy being whacked at night during movement by our hunter-killer teams. We've all seen the videos. 12.夜视仪和红外装备(即热成像夜视仪一类):不错的东西.景象(应该是指从NVG里面看到的)非常壮观.我们的人拥有整个夜晚,因为几乎没有敌人会在黄昏的祷告之后(穆斯林传统的宗教仪式)开展活动.越来越多的敌人被我们的猎杀者(某种无人飞机)所杀.我们都看了录像(可能是猎杀者PK抵抗武装的) 美军现制式的AN/PVS-14微光夜视仪 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736131.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>美军现装备的TWS(热成像武器系统),分为重型、中型和轻型3种型号。 <img src="http://images.sonicbbs.com/upload_897/publicphotos/4_736136.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>13) Lights: Thumbs up. Most of the weapon mounted and personal lights are Surefire's, and the troops lov-e 'em. Invaluable for night urban operations. Jordan carried a $34 Surefire G2 on a neck lanyard and love-d it. (呵呵,看得出来SureFire确实不错啊) 13.手电:不错的东西.大部分的枪灯和个人手电都是SureFire的产品,并且它们深受士兵们的喜爱.它对于在夜晚的城市作战行动来说是非常宝贵的.Jordan就将一个价值34美元的SureFire G2手电通过吊带挂在自己的脖子上,他非常地喜爱它~~~~~~

所以说，发展、装备中口径的通用机枪还是非常必要的。也许我军的88式5.8MM的通用机枪的威力能够胜任作战需要——“一枪撩倒敌人”。

M9“被雷打”手枪弓虽!!!

呵呵，不错的外号，还是谐音的~~~~

满真实的

任何情况都是正常滴~~~~~~~~~~~

好看真好看，还可以学英语

额靠,英语不好,不懂啊!

他们的经验是，阿拉伯男人全是恐怖份子，装衣服的阿拉伯女也是恐怖份子

不同的战场环境对武器系统的要求不同，一种口径打天下是绝对8行地！

“M249班用机枪：.223口径，采用弹箱供弹。令人极度失望，通常认为就是一堆屎。连续不断的导气系统故障，需要频繁地进行分解清洁。（在战斗过程中这样做确实很可笑）”灭哈哈！！！说出来俺的心声！！！7。62口径机枪满塞！！！！

<div class="quote">以下是引用勇武先锋在2006-4-1 22:57:00的发言： 不同的战场环境对武器系统的要求不同，一种口径打天下是绝对8行地！</div>所以说M14不是生不逢时,而是生不逢地. 当年的越战,如果是在阿富汗,伊拉克这样的战场环境下打,小口径步枪还不知道要到哪年哪月才能出头!

机枪永远都是大口径的好压制武器需要的是大威力而不是小口径

使用手枪进行自慰确实是相当普遍的事。==美军凶猛！

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