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从追踪中国商级攻击型核潜艇七叶大斜侧螺旋桨发出的微弱噪音演习写起——“保持声纳接触……”。《追踪红十月号》的中国版快出来了
http://www.abqjournal.com/661486/news/the-enemy-below.html
U.S. submarine fleet preparing for action in Asia

UNDER THE PACIFIC – America’s most advanced nuclear submarine was slicing through the water off Hawaii last month, 400 feet under the surface, when a sonar operator suddenly detected an ominous noise on his headphones.


was a faint thump … thump … thump – the distinctive sound of a spinning, seven-bladed propeller on a Chinese attack submarine called a Shang by the Pentagon and its allies.
A neon-green stripe on his sonar screen indicated that the Shang was only a few thousand yards off the U.S. sub’s bow.
“Sonar contact!” he yelled to 15 officers and crew in the dimly lighted control room. “All stations, analyze!”
Within seconds, the 377-foot-long Mississippi banked right and gunned its nuclear-powered propulsion system for one of the Navy’s most difficult maneuvers: sneaking up behind another submarine and shadowing it without being detected.
Fortunately, the Mississippi was chasing a phantom, not a real Chinese sub. A digital recording of a Shang’s audio signature had been piped through the U.S. sub’s sonar system for a training exercise.
But the battle drill seemed urgently real: The mock Shang’s course and speed were automatically fed into the Mississippi’s targeting computers, the first step to launching one of its 27 torpedoes, something no U.S. sub has done against an adversary since World War II.

Cmdr. Eric Rozek, the skipper of the USS Mississippi, stands on the submarine’s bridge as the vessel leaves Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. (David Cloud/Tribune Washington Bureau/TNS)


Increasing the U.S. presence
This is the largely unseen effect of the Obama administration’s decision to send its newest vessels and war**es to Asia over the last four years, a strategic rebalance intended in part to reassure Asian allies nervous about China’s growing clout.
It has increased cat-and-mouse jockeying between the two largest navies in the Pacific, especially their growing submarine fleets. They track each other and train to fight with the same intensity of U.S. subs that once prepared to battle the Soviet Union.
The Navy recently allowed a Los Angeles Times reporter aboard the black-hulled Mississippi, one of its newest and quietest fast-attack subs, for seven days, providing a rare look at the secretive world of the so-called Silent Service.
Beneath the waves, Cmdr. Eric Rozek and about 130 other officers and crew members, all men, did a series of complex training drills, often against an imaginary Chinese foe.
“This is our bread and butter,” Rozek said as his sub tracked the mock Shang. “Because if we can do this, we can shift to using our weapons.”
The exercise was meant to help the Mississippi, one of 12 Virginia-class fast-attack submarines, prepare for its first operational mission early next year, a six-month patrol in the Western Pacific that probably will include stalking actual Chinese subs and surface warships.
If war between the U.S. and China suddenly seemed probable, the Pentagon would send the Mississippi or its sister subs near the Chinese mainland, according to analysts and Navy officers familiar with Pentagon war **s.
They could launch cruise missiles at antiship missile batteries along the coast and try to torpedo Chinese warships before they could attack U.S. aircraft-carrier battle groups.
China’s antisubmarine systems have improved as part of a military modernization effort, and its growing submarine fleet “poses a significant and increasing threat,” according to a new study of U.S. and Chinese military capabilities by RAND Corp., a think tank.
But U.S. subs “would likely inflict terrible punishment” if China tried to invade Taiwan, a small island that is a U.S. ally, or launch another major maritime operation, the 389-page study concludes.

Lt. Rob Graham, right, and Petty Officer 2nd Class Estevan Trevino, left, sit on the bridge of the USS Mississippi before it submerges off the coast of Hawaii. (David Cloud/Tribune Washington Bureau/TNS)


Strategic deployment
The Mississippi was shifted to Pearl Harbor from Groton, Conn., in November as part of the rebalance. The Navy now has 43 of its 71 submarines in the Pacific.
About 20 attack subs, which carry only nonnuclear weapons, now are based at Pearl Harbor, making it the Navy’s largest sub base. Four more attack subs operate from Guam, closer to the South China Sea.
The others are based in San Diego and Washington state. They include eight Ohio-class subs, the 560-foot-long “boomers” that carry nuclear-armed Trident II ballistic missiles and hide in the deep ocean in case of nuclear war.
China, in turn, operates at least 62 diesel- and nuclear-powered subs. It could boost that to 78 over the next five years, according to a Pentagon report released in May.
They include four Jin subs that are believed to carry medium-range, nuclear-armed ballistic missiles. China “will likely conduct its first (submarine) nuclear deterrence patrol sometime in 2015,” the Pentagon report states.
China has expanded conventional sub patrols into the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea as far west as the Horn of Africa. Keeping track of them has added to the Navy’s workload, Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., top U.S. commander in the Pacific, said Sept. 17 at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing.
To help counter the threat, the Navy deploys special spy ships and P-8 surveillance aircraft, which drop sensitive sonar buoys and underwater listening devices. But it also relies on its attack subs in the Pacific.
Making it real
Off Hawaii, about a dozen of the Mississippi’s officers and senior petty officers assembled one recent afternoon in the mess, where the crew eats, to discuss the day’s battle drill.
For the purposes of the exercise, war loomed in the Pacific. A nuclear-armed Jin submarine – not a Shang this time – was lurking off an imaginary U.S.-allied nation resembling Japan. The Jin was from “Churia,” not China.
The Mississippi had 36 hours to find and, if necessary, destroy the enemy sub, Lt. Cmdr. Dennis Milsom, the executive officer, explained. The officers listened intently, clustered near an ice-cream machine. Most were serving their first or second sub tours.
Among them was Lt. Ray Wiggin, the sub’s weapons officer. His crew handles the Mississippi’s torpedoes and dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles. He was told to prepare to launch a salvo of cruise missiles at Churian targets on shore.
Nerves were on edge. War had not broken out. And the mock orders permitted an attack only if the Jin was clearly hostile.
“If they are (attacking) a freighter, we have authority to engage,” said Milsom, a ginger-haired graduate of Penn State.
Otherwise, they should track the Jin and await a “strike tasking,” an order from the Navy’s 7th Fleet commander confirming that war with Churia has begun.
“We’re pretty binary,” Milsom said. “We’re either going to sink them or we’re not.”
On this day, they did not. The exercise ended without an exchange of fire.
It is not an easy life. Even when the boat surfaces or pulls into port, only the few crew members on the bridge, the tiny observation area atop the conning tower, see the sun.
They also face relentless pressure to get “qualified,” proving they are proficient in an assigned task.
“You don’t get a lot of free time,” said Chief Petty Officer Heath Hooper, an electronics mate who helps run the 40,000-kilowatt nuclear reactor that supplies power. “It’s always, ‘Why are you reading that book? Why aren’t you qualified?'”

Two Mark 48 torpedoes rest on the hydraulic lifts used to insert them into the torpedo tubes installed aboard the USS Mississippi. An experienced crew can load the 2-ton torpedoes in about nine minutes. (David Cloud/Tribune Washington Bureau/TNS)


Practice makes perfect
In the torpedo room, Chief Petty Officer John Stitt drilled his men on loading Mark 48 torpedoes. An experienced crew can load a tube in about nine minutes, but his crew wasn’t fast enough yet, Stitt said. So they drill continually.
The torpedoes, each 19 feet long and weighing nearly 2 tons, are stacked in racks in the low compartment. Some carry high-explosive warheads and others are duds used for training.
“Weapon in motion,” yells torpedoman’s mate Cody Krollpfeiffer as a hydraulic lift readies a Mark 48 to be jammed into one of the four tubes.
Gone are the days of “up periscope” on Virginia-class subs, the command to raise an optical periscope so the captain can survey the surface and launch an attack.
Instead, the Mississippi raised its photonics mast, which uses a high-resolution digital video camera, above the waves. Other masts can scan the surface with radar or vacuum up digital communications traffic and other intelligence.
Still, the technology has its limits.
In one exercise, officers practiced raising the mast in a crowded shipping lane such as those in the South China Sea. A video screen that normally shows the ocean instead displayed computer-generated silhouettes of a trawler, a cruise ship and two Chinese warships – a Shang sub and a guided-missile destroyer known as a Luhu.
But initial attempts by Wiggin, the officer in charge, didn’t please Rozek, the skipper. To avoid detection, Wiggin raised the mast and quickly surveyed the Chinese ships, then lowered it. Then he did it again. And again.
“We’re ducking and running, ducking and running, ducking and running,” Rozek said.
Wiggin should have moved the sub to where it could keep the mast up safely “because pretty soon the Shang is going to submerge and become invisible,” Rozek said.
And though the sub’s sophisticated sonar sensors can pick up tiny clicks from schools of swimming shrimp, the so-called passive sonar doesn’t always work against China’s most advanced subs, which can operate in virtual silence. Sometimes they disclose their position by banging a hatch or making another inadvertent noise.
The solution is to use active sonar, a ping of sound that echoes off another vessel. That reveals the enemy but also can give away the ship using sonar.
“If we’re not putting artificial noise into the water, we don’t generally find them,” said a sonar operator aboard the Mississippi.
Aboard a U.S. nuclear sub, crewmen play a cat-and-mouse game with phantom Chinese adversaries


从追踪中国商级攻击型核潜艇七叶大斜侧螺旋桨发出的微弱噪音演习写起——“保持声纳接触……”。《追踪红十月号》的中国版快出来了
http://www.abqjournal.com/661486/news/the-enemy-below.html
U.S. submarine fleet preparing for action in Asia

UNDER THE PACIFIC – America’s most advanced nuclear submarine was slicing through the water off Hawaii last month, 400 feet under the surface, when a sonar operator suddenly detected an ominous noise on his headphones.


was a faint thump … thump … thump – the distinctive sound of a spinning, seven-bladed propeller on a Chinese attack submarine called a Shang by the Pentagon and its allies.
A neon-green stripe on his sonar screen indicated that the Shang was only a few thousand yards off the U.S. sub’s bow.
“Sonar contact!” he yelled to 15 officers and crew in the dimly lighted control room. “All stations, analyze!”
Within seconds, the 377-foot-long Mississippi banked right and gunned its nuclear-powered propulsion system for one of the Navy’s most difficult maneuvers: sneaking up behind another submarine and shadowing it without being detected.
Fortunately, the Mississippi was chasing a phantom, not a real Chinese sub. A digital recording of a Shang’s audio signature had been piped through the U.S. sub’s sonar system for a training exercise.
But the battle drill seemed urgently real: The mock Shang’s course and speed were automatically fed into the Mississippi’s targeting computers, the first step to launching one of its 27 torpedoes, something no U.S. sub has done against an adversary since World War II.

Cmdr. Eric Rozek, the skipper of the USS Mississippi, stands on the submarine’s bridge as the vessel leaves Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. (David Cloud/Tribune Washington Bureau/TNS)


Increasing the U.S. presence
This is the largely unseen effect of the Obama administration’s decision to send its newest vessels and war**es to Asia over the last four years, a strategic rebalance intended in part to reassure Asian allies nervous about China’s growing clout.
It has increased cat-and-mouse jockeying between the two largest navies in the Pacific, especially their growing submarine fleets. They track each other and train to fight with the same intensity of U.S. subs that once prepared to battle the Soviet Union.
The Navy recently allowed a Los Angeles Times reporter aboard the black-hulled Mississippi, one of its newest and quietest fast-attack subs, for seven days, providing a rare look at the secretive world of the so-called Silent Service.
Beneath the waves, Cmdr. Eric Rozek and about 130 other officers and crew members, all men, did a series of complex training drills, often against an imaginary Chinese foe.
“This is our bread and butter,” Rozek said as his sub tracked the mock Shang. “Because if we can do this, we can shift to using our weapons.”
The exercise was meant to help the Mississippi, one of 12 Virginia-class fast-attack submarines, prepare for its first operational mission early next year, a six-month patrol in the Western Pacific that probably will include stalking actual Chinese subs and surface warships.
If war between the U.S. and China suddenly seemed probable, the Pentagon would send the Mississippi or its sister subs near the Chinese mainland, according to analysts and Navy officers familiar with Pentagon war **s.
They could launch cruise missiles at antiship missile batteries along the coast and try to torpedo Chinese warships before they could attack U.S. aircraft-carrier battle groups.
China’s antisubmarine systems have improved as part of a military modernization effort, and its growing submarine fleet “poses a significant and increasing threat,” according to a new study of U.S. and Chinese military capabilities by RAND Corp., a think tank.
But U.S. subs “would likely inflict terrible punishment” if China tried to invade Taiwan, a small island that is a U.S. ally, or launch another major maritime operation, the 389-page study concludes.

Lt. Rob Graham, right, and Petty Officer 2nd Class Estevan Trevino, left, sit on the bridge of the USS Mississippi before it submerges off the coast of Hawaii. (David Cloud/Tribune Washington Bureau/TNS)


Strategic deployment
The Mississippi was shifted to Pearl Harbor from Groton, Conn., in November as part of the rebalance. The Navy now has 43 of its 71 submarines in the Pacific.
About 20 attack subs, which carry only nonnuclear weapons, now are based at Pearl Harbor, making it the Navy’s largest sub base. Four more attack subs operate from Guam, closer to the South China Sea.
The others are based in San Diego and Washington state. They include eight Ohio-class subs, the 560-foot-long “boomers” that carry nuclear-armed Trident II ballistic missiles and hide in the deep ocean in case of nuclear war.
China, in turn, operates at least 62 diesel- and nuclear-powered subs. It could boost that to 78 over the next five years, according to a Pentagon report released in May.
They include four Jin subs that are believed to carry medium-range, nuclear-armed ballistic missiles. China “will likely conduct its first (submarine) nuclear deterrence patrol sometime in 2015,” the Pentagon report states.
China has expanded conventional sub patrols into the Indian Ocean and the Arabian Sea as far west as the Horn of Africa. Keeping track of them has added to the Navy’s workload, Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr., top U.S. commander in the Pacific, said Sept. 17 at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing.
To help counter the threat, the Navy deploys special spy ships and P-8 surveillance aircraft, which drop sensitive sonar buoys and underwater listening devices. But it also relies on its attack subs in the Pacific.
Making it real
Off Hawaii, about a dozen of the Mississippi’s officers and senior petty officers assembled one recent afternoon in the mess, where the crew eats, to discuss the day’s battle drill.
For the purposes of the exercise, war loomed in the Pacific. A nuclear-armed Jin submarine – not a Shang this time – was lurking off an imaginary U.S.-allied nation resembling Japan. The Jin was from “Churia,” not China.
The Mississippi had 36 hours to find and, if necessary, destroy the enemy sub, Lt. Cmdr. Dennis Milsom, the executive officer, explained. The officers listened intently, clustered near an ice-cream machine. Most were serving their first or second sub tours.
Among them was Lt. Ray Wiggin, the sub’s weapons officer. His crew handles the Mississippi’s torpedoes and dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles. He was told to prepare to launch a salvo of cruise missiles at Churian targets on shore.
Nerves were on edge. War had not broken out. And the mock orders permitted an attack only if the Jin was clearly hostile.
“If they are (attacking) a freighter, we have authority to engage,” said Milsom, a ginger-haired graduate of Penn State.
Otherwise, they should track the Jin and await a “strike tasking,” an order from the Navy’s 7th Fleet commander confirming that war with Churia has begun.
“We’re pretty binary,” Milsom said. “We’re either going to sink them or we’re not.”
On this day, they did not. The exercise ended without an exchange of fire.
It is not an easy life. Even when the boat surfaces or pulls into port, only the few crew members on the bridge, the tiny observation area atop the conning tower, see the sun.
They also face relentless pressure to get “qualified,” proving they are proficient in an assigned task.
“You don’t get a lot of free time,” said Chief Petty Officer Heath Hooper, an electronics mate who helps run the 40,000-kilowatt nuclear reactor that supplies power. “It’s always, ‘Why are you reading that book? Why aren’t you qualified?'”

Two Mark 48 torpedoes rest on the hydraulic lifts used to insert them into the torpedo tubes installed aboard the USS Mississippi. An experienced crew can load the 2-ton torpedoes in about nine minutes. (David Cloud/Tribune Washington Bureau/TNS)

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Practice makes perfect
In the torpedo room, Chief Petty Officer John Stitt drilled his men on loading Mark 48 torpedoes. An experienced crew can load a tube in about nine minutes, but his crew wasn’t fast enough yet, Stitt said. So they drill continually.
The torpedoes, each 19 feet long and weighing nearly 2 tons, are stacked in racks in the low compartment. Some carry high-explosive warheads and others are duds used for training.
“Weapon in motion,” yells torpedoman’s mate Cody Krollpfeiffer as a hydraulic lift readies a Mark 48 to be jammed into one of the four tubes.
Gone are the days of “up periscope” on Virginia-class subs, the command to raise an optical periscope so the captain can survey the surface and launch an attack.
Instead, the Mississippi raised its photonics mast, which uses a high-resolution digital video camera, above the waves. Other masts can scan the surface with radar or vacuum up digital communications traffic and other intelligence.
Still, the technology has its limits.
In one exercise, officers practiced raising the mast in a crowded shipping lane such as those in the South China Sea. A video screen that normally shows the ocean instead displayed computer-generated silhouettes of a trawler, a cruise ship and two Chinese warships – a Shang sub and a guided-missile destroyer known as a Luhu.
But initial attempts by Wiggin, the officer in charge, didn’t please Rozek, the skipper. To avoid detection, Wiggin raised the mast and quickly surveyed the Chinese ships, then lowered it. Then he did it again. And again.
“We’re ducking and running, ducking and running, ducking and running,” Rozek said.
Wiggin should have moved the sub to where it could keep the mast up safely “because pretty soon the Shang is going to submerge and become invisible,” Rozek said.
And though the sub’s sophisticated sonar sensors can pick up tiny clicks from schools of swimming shrimp, the so-called passive sonar doesn’t always work against China’s most advanced subs, which can operate in virtual silence. Sometimes they disclose their position by banging a hatch or making another inadvertent noise.
The solution is to use active sonar, a ping of sound that echoes off another vessel. That reveals the enemy but also can give away the ship using sonar.
“If we’re not putting artificial noise into the water, we don’t generally find them,” said a sonar operator aboard the Mississippi.
Aboard a U.S. nuclear sub, crewmen play a cat-and-mouse game with phantom Chinese adversaries
这怎么看啊,抓瞎了~~
楼主,你全部能看懂吗?
这个是记录密西西比号的一次模拟训练。用记录下来的091声音进行追踪训练。但是091不都是5叶桨吗?这里怎么说091是7叶桨
这个是记录密西西比号的一次模拟训练。用记录下来的091声音进行追踪训练。但是091不都是5叶桨吗?这里怎么 ...
说的是商级,应该是093
都被录了声纹了,快改推进吧。
可以认为是霉帝官泄,震慑兔鳖。
belly731 发表于 2015-10-18 23:16
可以认为是霉帝官泄,震慑兔鳖。
   威慑?那你以为土鳖的核潜艇技术是不进步的?那093B跟往后的095呢?
MD对跟踪兔子的核鱼下了大力气,总得有点成果吧
绿林奸汉 发表于 2015-10-18 22:51
都被录了声纹了,快改推进吧。
这篇可以理解为美国八股文,上面说几千码距离捕抓到093信号,是通过潜艇声纳系统的一次模拟训练。但是没说093这个声音是怎样来的。
楼主,你全部能看懂吗?
模拟演戏而已,不是发现了商级,但声纹已被记录,但发现距离被定在了几千英尺,这个距离是大是小?
几千英尺才一两千米
一两公里?就差一头撞上去了吧。
这不是太差了吗?
密西西比号,最新的弗吉尼亚级
Paul2015 发表于 2015-10-19 02:08
模拟演戏而已,不是发现了商级,但声纹已被记录,但发现距离被定在了几千英尺,这个距离是大是小?
几公里,太近了. 攻击型潜艇上导弹上百公里,鱼雷二三十公里.
英文完全看不懂,抓瞎了
霉日第一岛涟关键海峡海底有声呐基阵天天在探测
一两公里?就差一头撞上去了吧。
这不是太差了吗?
潜艇对潜艇,几千英尺发现已经不错了,弄不好就是撞一起
隐形战机平时巡航的时候也会带角反射器的,避免泄露雷达特征。核攻击潜艇非战时难道不带类似噪音发生器之类的东西隐匿自己的声纹信号?
这个是记录密西西比号的一次模拟训练。用记录下来的091声音进行追踪训练。但是091不都是5叶桨吗?这里怎么 ...
091被称为汉级,商级对应的是093吧
64358646 发表于 2015-10-19 07:37
隐形战机平时巡航的时候也会带角反射器的,避免泄露雷达特征。核攻击潜艇非战时难道不带类似噪音发生器之类 ...
亲,有点常识好么,隐身飞机和核潜艇能使一码事么,隐身飞机靠隐身性能吃饭,核潜艇靠的是自身的安静性吃饭,只听说过核潜艇努力降低噪声的,没听说过有主动增加噪声的。人家记录你的声纹就是为了发现你,你再主动增加自身噪音,这不是明摆着告诉人家我在这,来打我啊
亲,有点常识好么,隐身飞机和核潜艇能使一码事么,隐身飞机靠隐身性能吃饭,核潜艇靠的是自身的安静性吃 ...

看情况。
和平时期海军舰艇(包括但不限于潜艇)噪声伪装是必要的,美帝和盟友演习时都搞。
潜艇对潜艇,几千英尺发现已经不错了,弄不好就是撞一起
原来是这样,谢谢指点。
还是中国的蓝绿激光雷达继续发展发展吧,这个弄出来还能远点。
模拟演戏而已,不是发现了商级,但声纹已被记录,但发现距离被定在了几千英尺,这个距离是大是小?
一英尺约等于0.3米,几千英尺也就2~3公里,距离太近了。
平时桨叶上装点东西,改变声纹,战时燃爆抛弃,回到正式声纹,不知道可行不
亲,有点常识好么,隐身飞机和核潜艇能使一码事么,隐身飞机靠隐身性能吃饭,核潜艇靠的是自身的安静性吃 ...
真打的时候噪音发生器一关  美帝就变二笔了
看懂这个轻轻松松,只是没觉得有什么新东西,不就是用以前录的093声纹搞模拟对抗么,弗吉尼亚级应该可以在远大于数千米的距离上听到093,美国人料敌从宽做的真不错。此外有意思的是全文都透露着一种和中国对抗的气息,确实是美国八股文。
lhr817 发表于 2015-10-18 14:58
一英尺约等于0.3米,几千英尺也就2~3公里,距离太近了。
yard不是英尺,更接近于米。
yard不是英尺,更接近于米。
没仔细看原文,不好意思。
能翻译下吗?
用软件也行啊,
不要信雅达,只要是中文
对093只有几千米的发现距离。。。等轮到093B的时候指不定谁跟踪谁那。来自: iPhone客户端
以前不是说好的中国潜艇出去,关岛夏威夷都听到。现在训练就几千码距离,难道美军也玩朱日和开挂模式?
几千yard就是几公里而已,不是吹夏威夷就能听到我兔出港么,怎么模拟中几公里才发现微弱声音? 为什么不模拟几千公里就发现,美国人怎么这么不自信? 哈哈
不是有关于093泄密的帖子麽
可以认为是霉帝官泄,震慑兔鳖。
接近到几公里内才能发现093的微弱声音,还震慑? 呵呵
楼主在考俺们英语等级呀
接近到几公里内才能发现093的微弱声音,还震慑? 呵呵
国内外有哪篇文章会透露一样战略武器的真正最大作用距离,重点是声纹,就算几公里也便于海底声纳阵的快速反应,还呵呵!
几千yard就是几公里而已,不是吹夏威夷就能听到我兔出港么,怎么模拟中几公里才发现微弱声音? 为什么不模拟几 ...
这事嘛,往坏的说就是美帝核潜的反潜能力也不过如此,往好的说就是美帝核潜训练时料敌从宽。
belly731 发表于 2015-10-19 16:59
引用:  iewgnem 发表于 2015-10-19 14:13  
  
国内外有哪篇文章会透露一样战略武器的真正最大作用距离,重点是声纹,就算几公里也便于海底声纳阵的快速反应,还呵呵!...
声纹的作用是识别,前提是能探测到。可是如果如果近到几公里才将将够探测到,那套海底声纳阵的效果也就比较呵呵了。来自: iPhone客户端