CNN找简氏防务专家差评FC-31

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Flawed design?
Like other PLAAF fighter aircraft, the FC-31 is powered by Russian-made jet engines, in this case two Klimov RD-93 models, which are a specialized variant of the same engine that powers the famous Mikoyan "MiG-29." There have been rumors that a team of renegade designers from the Mikoyan bureau in Moscow assisted Shenyang in the development of the aircraft, but a senior MiG official stated "no, as far as I know they [the Chinese] completed this design themselves, and they seem to have done a good job on their own."
像其它的中国空军战斗机一样,FC-31也是用俄国发动机Klimov RD-93。有谣传说俄国帮了忙,但米格高官否认了。

The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with Russian assistance would probably perform better.
他也许是对的,这款机要是有外援可能表现的更好。

The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have made.
常规的飞行表演就已经耗去了它很多的能量,所以当它转弯时它开始失去高度。 即使在平飞,飞行员也得加大发动机的加力才能使得飞机不至于下沉。这是俄国人不会有的缺陷。

Western aerospace analysts point out that the FC-31 flown at Zhuhai is a "clean" jet in that it is not armed, which means that an aircraft configured for a real mission and fitted with weapons would be even heavier and would perform even worse.
西方分析家指出,装弹/全负荷的FC-31可能会因为更大的负荷而表现的更差。

Timing a coincidence?

So, why has the PLAAF chosen to exhibit an aircraft that is either overweight, underpowered or both?
It could be an oblique signal to Washington timed to coincide with President Barack Obama's visit to Beijing for the APEC summit. The underlying message: "China is stronger than you think."
为何要匆匆展示?(指演练既没有超负载,动力不足 或一起),因为要赶在APEC上秀肌肉。

This would not be the first such example of China trying to use its defense industry to flex its muscles. In January 2011, when the J-20 first flew, then-U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates was in Beijing for an official visit. His read was that the timing of the two events was in no way coincidental.
Unfortunately for the PLA, the gesture falls flat.
以前也有这种情况了。

Many would have been more impressed by the FC-31 in photos posted on Chinese websites than after seeing it actually fly at the air show.
很多人之前都被FC-31图片所吸引,但眼见为实啊。
Looks can be deceiving, as they say.

http://us.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-analysis/index.html

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Flawed design?
Like other PLAAF fighter aircraft, the FC-31 is powered by Russian-made jet engines, in this case two Klimov RD-93 models, which are a specialized variant of the same engine that powers the famous Mikoyan "MiG-29." There have been rumors that a team of renegade designers from the Mikoyan bureau in Moscow assisted Shenyang in the development of the aircraft, but a senior MiG official stated "no, as far as I know they [the Chinese] completed this design themselves, and they seem to have done a good job on their own."
像其它的中国空军战斗机一样,FC-31也是用俄国发动机Klimov RD-93。有谣传说俄国帮了忙,但米格高官否认了。

The MiG official may be correct. An aircraft of this type designed with Russian assistance would probably perform better.
他也许是对的,这款机要是有外援可能表现的更好。

The FC-31's flight routine shows that it "bleeds" too much energy -- so when it enters into a turn it begins to lose altitude. Even during straight and level flight the pilot has to engage the engine's afterburners in order to keep the aircraft from sinking to a lower altitude. These are defects in the aircraft's aerodynamic design that a Russian design team would not have made.
常规的飞行表演就已经耗去了它很多的能量,所以当它转弯时它开始失去高度。 即使在平飞,飞行员也得加大发动机的加力才能使得飞机不至于下沉。这是俄国人不会有的缺陷。

Western aerospace analysts point out that the FC-31 flown at Zhuhai is a "clean" jet in that it is not armed, which means that an aircraft configured for a real mission and fitted with weapons would be even heavier and would perform even worse.
西方分析家指出,装弹/全负荷的FC-31可能会因为更大的负荷而表现的更差。

Timing a coincidence?

So, why has the PLAAF chosen to exhibit an aircraft that is either overweight, underpowered or both?
It could be an oblique signal to Washington timed to coincide with President Barack Obama's visit to Beijing for the APEC summit. The underlying message: "China is stronger than you think."
为何要匆匆展示?(指演练既没有超负载,动力不足 或一起),因为要赶在APEC上秀肌肉。

This would not be the first such example of China trying to use its defense industry to flex its muscles. In January 2011, when the J-20 first flew, then-U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates was in Beijing for an official visit. His read was that the timing of the two events was in no way coincidental.
Unfortunately for the PLA, the gesture falls flat.
以前也有这种情况了。

Many would have been more impressed by the FC-31 in photos posted on Chinese websites than after seeing it actually fly at the air show.
很多人之前都被FC-31图片所吸引,但眼见为实啊。
Looks can be deceiving, as they say.

http://us.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/asia/china-stealth-fighter-analysis/index.html
不是说这发动机很有个性,有黑烟就没加力, 加力反而没黑烟吗? 所以平飞和转弯的时候都没有开加力, 看那黑烟滚滚的。简史专家还是不行。
反正发动机不行是明摆着的
说一千到一万,还是发动机。
一丑遮百俊。。无语
花动机,花动机
沈黑们喜闻乐见。
一声叹息, 一言难尽, 一股黑烟。
战忽局啥时候有外籍成员了
一丑遮百俊。。无语
这丑的地方很重要啊
心脏病,还是心脏病…病了几十年了。
外媒一说话,一些人就"失意",知道国内媒体这么喜欢"据国外媒体称"了吧!
他们不过是把鹘鹰验证机和FC-31混为一谈。。
专家们也越来越难混了,除了发动机也没啥说的了,等以后发动机也没啥说的时候如何展开工作?
给好评就停刊了

还想不想要年终奖了
只要花动机好,板砖也能飞,更何况发财4代。

不错了,以前还说是木头做的。
白皮的都行?这么多年为啥不搞出来?还要排队等着买F35?来自: Android客户端
这评论怎么一股平可夫的味道,难道平可夫去简式兼职了?
嗯签证肯定是没有签
年终奖不好混啊
怎么不说价格呢?一架F35多少钱。。。到时候兔子的大白菜价格低的不能拒绝。。。
平大湿啥时候改侍奉简氏了……?
米格29的引擎系统,套个新机体就是FC31
刨一刨作者Reuben F. Johnson吧

Reuben F. Johnson is a more than twenty-year veteran of analysing and writing about defence technology, weapon systems, procurement networks and political-military affairs in Russia/Former USSR, China, Latin America and the Middle East.  In his career he has visited most of the major defence industrial sites in the former Soviet Union and other nations of the former Warsaw Pact and their analogous facilities in other parts of the world, and has written extensively on the subject of defence policy and the development of next-generation weapons.He was fortunate to have spent the 1990s living and working in Russia, where he was able to observe first-hand the immense transfer of weaponry, technology, know-how and design expertise from states of the Former USSR to China.  This period is described by many specialists as the largest transfer of defence industrial capability from one region of the world to another since the post-WWII migration of German scientists and engineers to the US and the then-Soviet Union.As such, he is familiar with the design of most modern Chinese weapon systems, as many of them have their genesis in Russian designs and/or are “hybrid” configurations that have resulted from China “borrowing” innovations from multiple sources and then combining them into a finalised design concept.  His overall view of the Chinese defence establishment is that China has developed a capacity for designing and building weapon systems that is larger than most of the rest of the world’s defence industrial establishments combined.  He has observed and written about most major Chinese weapon systems and is a regular visitor to China.Having learned and assimilated a vast storehouse of knowledge from the Russians, Ukrainians and others on how to design/develop advanced weaponry China is not only on the verge of having achieved near self-awareness.  The country will soon be building an even wider array of defence products, and will overcome their deficiencies in the few areas (i.e. propulsion technology) where they still lag behind the rest of the world.China’s ability to build aggregate numbers of advanced weapon systems is worrying on two levels.  One is the near-pathological secrecy of the Chinese defence establishment and the reluctance with which the PLA engages in any meaningful dialogue with the US and many other foreign military establishments creates an environment that is opaque at best.  As such the possibilities for miscalculation or misinterpretation of specific movements by the PLA are increased geometrically.The other concern is that with western weapon systems increasing dramatically in price, Chinese industry may become the suppliers of choice for nations that in the past would have been looking for a lower-end US-built for export product (like the old Northrop F-5 fighter).  US and European influence over the actions over numerous states around the world will be diminished, to say nothing of the concerns about proliferation.Reuben writes for numerous defence and public policy magazines, including Jane’s Defence Weekly, International Defence Review, The Weekly Standard, National Review, Taipei Times, The Washington Timesand Aviation Week’s Show News.  He also consults for the US Department of Defense.  He divides his time between Kiev, Ukraine and Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.  He speaks Russian, Ukrainian and has a working knowledge of Portuguese.
Education: M.A. [Miami University (Ohio), 1982-84]: Masters in Russian Studies focusing on the study of the technology levels, design, and operations of Soviet industrial enterprises

B.A. [DePauw University, 1978-82]: Bachelors in Political Science specializing in the analysis of the Soviet Union and Eastern/Central Europe

rogerkkk123 发表于 2014-11-14 14:20
不是说这发动机很有个性,有黑烟就没加力, 加力反而没黑烟吗? 所以平飞和转弯的时候都没有开加力, 看那 ...
出黑烟是在接通加力时后燃室富油造成的,应该是FADAC的问题。
又来,无视之。
专家们也越来越难混了,除了发动机也没啥说的了,等以后发动机也没啥说的时候如何展开工作?
学呆巴和港灿呗!脂油闽猪一扯就完事了
dadao0605 发表于 2014-11-14 14:42
沈黑们喜闻乐见。
不是黑不黑的问题,其实大多数人都是恨铁不成钢,发动机的短板在各个领域都制约发展,唉!