乌克兰最新战报:民兵基本解决南线包围圈乌军,顿涅茨克省 ...

奔着看热闹不嫌事大的态度，一直盼着大毛出兵，北约支援。

一个说民兵请求停火，民兵被失利。一个说民兵围剿政府军

民兵死亡了1千多，这个数字也不少啊。
对面有俄罗斯炮火的猛烈支援，又没和乌军硬拼，还死了这么多

看看乌克兰总理的猴急样子，不可能是胜利者

2485估 发表于 2014-8-11 23:56
民兵死亡了1千多，这个数字也不少啊。
对面有俄罗斯炮火的猛烈支援，又没和乌军硬拼，还死了这么多
民兵在近一个月的围歼战斗中有1000多人伤亡

看贴不仔细吧

民兵永远在打保卫战，打保卫战其实是根本没办法打赢的。战略上的被动态势根本就没法扭转，永远是基辅的兵打上家门，胜也好败也好，反正都在民兵家里祸害。

伤亡1000多不是全死亡哦，我相信LZ的消息。

2485估 发表于 2014-8-11 23:56
民兵死亡了1千多，这个数字也不少啊。
对面有俄罗斯炮火的猛烈支援，又没和乌军硬拼，还死了这么多
伤亡，兄弟，不是死亡。

包围圈大歼灭不是终结，而仅仅是开始。

hmmm.....原来华盛顿是这么拼写的

反正子弹打谁身上，都是伤亡一个乌克兰公民。

wujingping 发表于 2014-8-12 02:03
民兵永远在打保卫战，打保卫战其实是根本没办法打赢的。战略上的被动态势根本就没法扭转，永远是基辅的兵打 ...
大部分民兵的家在车臣，奥赛梯，克里米亚，阿布哈兹，塞尔维亚，西班牙，都好着呢。毁掉的是乌克兰东部的俄罗斯人和乌克兰人的家。

ljcjaglhy 发表于 2014-8-12 01:09
大部分民兵的家在车臣，奥赛梯，克里米亚，阿布哈兹，塞尔维亚，西班牙，都好着呢。毁掉的是乌克兰东部的 ...

不管他们本人的家在哪里，像他们这么个打法，压根儿就没有胜利的那一天。

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukraines-frontline-troops-surrounded-by-enemies/2014/08/03/7b14eb4a-b76f-46c2-b402-b834f0fa4d6b_story.html

Ukraine’s frontline troops, surrounded by enemies

By Carol Morello,  Aug 3, 2014  4:15:25 PM

KIEV, Ukraine -- The calls home from the front line are very brief, often just two words conveying all that really matters.

“I’m alive,” Marina Bershadskaya’s little brother, Sergey, tells her. Then he hangs up to pass the communal cellphone to one of his fellow paratroopers in the 79th Airborne Brigade, deployed to Ukraine’s border with Russia.

It has been this way for almost three months, especially in the past few weeks, amid a major Ukrainian offensive against pro-Russian rebels in the east. Even as each day brings Ukrainian gains and the map of rebel-held territory shrinks, the calls have seeded a gnawing fear in the families of troops positioned in the thin, treacherous buffer zone between Ukraine and Russia in the rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk.

The heavy fighting is taking a toll on the Ukrainian military, there are hints of the war’s intensity that cannot be measured in towns retaken and rebels disarmed. Last week, a group of about 40 men from Ukraine’s 51st Mechanized Brigade crossed into Russia. They have since returned to Ukraine of their own volition and at least some are being accused of desertion.

Although no discernible antiwar movement is afoot, a growing number of wives, mothers and sisters of service members are traveling to Kiev, the capital, to agitate for needed reinforcements, more supplies and battlefield breaks. The most active have been women connected to the infantrymen in the 72nd Brigade and the paratroopers of the 79th, both at the border and under almost constant fire.

About 40 women arrived by bus last week from Mykolaiv, a port city on the Black Sea where the 79th is based. Rather than split up and stay in private homes, they are encamped in a military building called Officers House, where hallways are painted with murals of troops marching into battle. They sleep in conference rooms on air mattresses provided by the governor and a member of parliament from Mykolaiv, and take their meals in a parking lot beside the chartered bus that brought them to Kiev.

“They’re digging holes, like rabbits,” said Yelena Koval, 47. Her 25-year-old son, Konstantin, told her that they bring the bodies of their fallen fellow soldiers into the bunkers with them so their corpses will not be fired upon again and become unrecognizable. Some soldiers say they are having hearing problems because of all the explosions. Others awaken from nightmares of being under attack.

Convoys bearing supplies arrive only intermittently down roads unprotected from shelling and lined with trees hiding snipers in their thick greenery. Bershadskaya said when a soldier bringing them food died after being hit by shrapnel, the 79th asked for the convoys to stop so its solders wouldn’t have any more deaths on their consciences. They stretched out their remaining food supply, with four men sharing one ready-to-eat meal a day.

“Our boys are heroes,” Koval said. “But I don’t need my son to be a hero. I need him to be alive.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukraines-frontline-troops-surrounded-by-enemies/2014/08/03/7b14eb4a-b76f-46c2-b402-b834f0fa4d6b_story.html

Ukraine’s frontline troops, surrounded by enemies

By Carol Morello,  Aug 3, 2014  4:15:25 PM

KIEV, Ukraine -- The calls home from the front line are very brief, often just two words conveying all that really matters.

“I’m alive,” Marina Bershadskaya’s little brother, Sergey, tells her. Then he hangs up to pass the communal cellphone to one of his fellow paratroopers in the 79th Airborne Brigade, deployed to Ukraine’s border with Russia.

It has been this way for almost three months, especially in the past few weeks, amid a major Ukrainian offensive against pro-Russian rebels in the east. Even as each day brings Ukrainian gains and the map of rebel-held territory shrinks, the calls have seeded a gnawing fear in the families of troops positioned in the thin, treacherous buffer zone between Ukraine and Russia in the rebel strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk.

The heavy fighting is taking a toll on the Ukrainian military, there are hints of the war’s intensity that cannot be measured in towns retaken and rebels disarmed. Last week, a group of about 40 men from Ukraine’s 51st Mechanized Brigade crossed into Russia. They have since returned to Ukraine of their own volition and at least some are being accused of desertion.

Although no discernible antiwar movement is afoot, a growing number of wives, mothers and sisters of service members are traveling to Kiev, the capital, to agitate for needed reinforcements, more supplies and battlefield breaks. The most active have been women connected to the infantrymen in the 72nd Brigade and the paratroopers of the 79th, both at the border and under almost constant fire.

About 40 women arrived by bus last week from Mykolaiv, a port city on the Black Sea where the 79th is based. Rather than split up and stay in private homes, they are encamped in a military building called Officers House, where hallways are painted with murals of troops marching into battle. They sleep in conference rooms on air mattresses provided by the governor and a member of parliament from Mykolaiv, and take their meals in a parking lot beside the chartered bus that brought them to Kiev.

“They’re digging holes, like rabbits,” said Yelena Koval, 47. Her 25-year-old son, Konstantin, told her that they bring the bodies of their fallen fellow soldiers into the bunkers with them so their corpses will not be fired upon again and become unrecognizable. Some soldiers say they are having hearing problems because of all the explosions. Others awaken from nightmares of being under attack.

Convoys bearing supplies arrive only intermittently down roads unprotected from shelling and lined with trees hiding snipers in their thick greenery. Bershadskaya said when a soldier bringing them food died after being hit by shrapnel, the 79th asked for the convoys to stop so its solders wouldn’t have any more deaths on their consciences. They stretched out their remaining food supply, with four men sharing one ready-to-eat meal a day.

“Our boys are heroes,” Koval said. “But I don’t need my son to be a hero. I need him to be alive.”

民兵一直防守也不行啊，只有反攻基辅才能取得胜利！

华盛顿邮报：乌克兰军队在俄乌边境战场损失惨重
该媒体8月9日报道， 尽管乌克兰官方报道每天都是取得进展，叛军地盘越来越小。但是在俄乌边境战场，最近一个月，乌克兰军队遭遇了重大损失，79旅，51旅，72旅等部队被包围，损失惨重，补给线被切断，目前只有几百个人突围成功。他们面对不仅是叛军的火力，还有俄国人的炮火，乌克兰军人没有任何办法。7月底有50多名51旅的士兵曾一度逃往俄罗斯避难，后来返回乌克兰，等待的确是当局的法律指控。
越来越多的士兵家属示威要求基辅当局，解救他们，但是听到的更多是悲惨的消息。
一位79旅士兵的母亲说，他25岁的儿子和一个排的士兵，遭遇狙击手的点射，以及炮火攻击，没有食物，没有水，最后全部死在一处树丛中。
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/voices-from-the-front-lines-270572521.html?device=mobile
注:这是西方知名媒体极个别报道南线包围圈被围乌军的惨状


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哈哈，原来华盛顿邮报是这样拼写的，我都懒得去举报了。

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wo ... f0fa4d6b_story.html

Ukraine’s frontline troops, surrounded by enemies
咋不吭气了？举报啊，向白宫举报华盛顿邮报造谣去~

路边社专员 发表于 2014-8-12 05:09
华盛顿邮报：乌克兰军队在俄乌边境战场损失惨重
该媒体8月9日报道， 尽管乌克兰官方报道每天都是取得进展， ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wo ... f0fa4d6b_story.html

Ukraine’s frontline troops, surrounded by enemies
咋不吭气了？举报啊，向白宫举报华盛顿邮报造谣去~

不管他们本人的家在哪里，像他们这么个打法，压根儿就没有胜利的那一天。
只要消灭了西乌伪军的机动兵力，就胜利了，你以为西乌伪军真的抓得到壮丁?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukraines-frontline-troops-surrounded-by-enemies/2014/08/03/7 ...
你懂英文？你找得出伤亡惨重那句话出来吗？

路边社专员 发表于 2014-8-12 06:47
你懂英文？你找得出伤亡惨重那句话出来吗？
你这转移话题的水平真厉害

一位79旅士兵的母亲说，他25岁的儿子和一个排的士兵，遭遇狙击手的点射，以及炮火攻击，没有食物，没有水，最后全部死在一处树丛中。
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这一段是顿涅茨克战士对华盛顿邮报文章的翻译，你能在原文里找出来吗？

较量不可无声 发表于 2014-8-12 05:15 http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ukraines-frontline-troops-surrounded-by-enemies/2014/08/03/7 ...

一位79旅士兵的母亲说，他25岁的儿子和一个排的士兵，遭遇狙击手的点射，以及炮火攻击，没有食物，没有水，最后全部死在一处树丛中。
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这一段是顿涅茨克战士对华盛顿邮报文章的翻译，你能在原文里找出来吗？

你这转移话题的水平真厉害
华盛顿邮报：乌克兰军队在俄乌边境战场损失惨重
该媒体8月9日报道， 尽管乌克兰官方报道每天都是取得进展，叛军地盘越来越小。但是在俄乌边境战场，最近一个月，乌克兰军队遭遇了重大损失，79旅，51旅，72旅等部队被包围，损失惨重，补给线被切断，目前只有几百个人突围成功。他们面对不仅是叛军的火力，还有俄国人的炮火，乌克兰军人没有任何办法。7月底有50多名51旅的士兵曾一度逃往俄罗斯避难，后来返回乌克兰，等待的确是当局的法律指控。
越来越多的士兵家属示威要求基辅当局，解救他们，但是听到的更多是悲惨的消息。
一位79旅士兵的母亲说，他25岁的儿子和一个排的士兵，遭遇狙击手的点射，以及炮火攻击，没有食物，没有水，最后全部死在一处树丛中。


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这是顿涅茨克战士对华盛顿邮报文章的翻译，他是不是说了“伤亡惨重”？原文里有伤亡惨重的描述吗？

华盛顿邮报：乌克兰军队在俄乌边境战场损失惨重
该媒体8月9日报道， 尽管乌克兰官方报道每天都是取得进展 ...
哦，请问下，打成这样不叫伤亡惨重，打成啥样才叫呢

路边社大号在这呢，这么早起来赚钱真不简单啊

华盛顿邮报：乌克兰军队在俄乌边境战场损失惨重
该媒体8月9日报道， 尽管乌克兰官方报道每天都是取得进展 ...
这样也能领钱？我还以为开一帖子，随便弄几张图造谣，引来回复多热度高，再加前面几楼马甲互相捧场，这样才能赚到呢

哦，请问下，打成这样不叫伤亡惨重，打成啥样才叫呢
打成怎么样？你知道吗？你形容一下给我看。

打成怎么样？你知道吗？你形容一下给我看。
哦，你知道么。。告诉俺一下，好狠狠的抽这个报纸一个嘴巴

又见路边社

哦，你知道么。。告诉俺一下，好狠狠的抽这个报纸一个嘴巴
上面有华盛顿邮报的链接，你去看啊。

大反攻了，西伐战争开始！

上面有华盛顿邮报的链接，你去看啊。
乌克兰政府难道又取得胜利了

领工资的和义务的差别真大，人家一来目标和指向都十分明确。大家也不要抱怨宣传部门在干嘛，告诉大家也无妨啊，开会学习呢，从戴表到做梦，现在在给群众做教育呢，那有时间来关心这些小事啊。

现在眉粉党的水平越来越低了，专员，你该下岗了

支持楼主！

“路边社专员”是个一贯造谣的美分党！  “路边社专员”去死！ 拿钱发帖死全家！

国家悲剧呀。

据说拿钱发帖死全家，是吗？

你懂英文？你找得出伤亡惨重那句话出来吗？
哈哈哈哈哈哈，我都被你逗了~

你懂英文？你找得出伤亡惨重那句话出来吗？
哈哈哈哈哈哈，我都被你逗乐了

一位79旅士兵的母亲说，他25岁的儿子和一个排的士兵，遭遇狙击手的点射，以及炮火攻击，没有食物，没有 ...
我就贴个Washington post的链接而已，里面内容懂英文的话自己看，你要是觉得哪一句是在讲乌政府军大捷不妨给找出来