大新闻！！！马来西亚《新海峡时报》报道MH17被飞机而非 ...

原文链接：http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
BY HARIS HUSSAIN - 7 AUGUST 2014 @ 8:20 AM

KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.

In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.

This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.

In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day.

They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the country’s core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol.

“We have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures.

“At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never used any anti-aircraft missiles since the anti-terrorist operations started in early April,” the statement read.

Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes — the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.

Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.

Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.

Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.

In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”.

“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.

Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.

“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said.

Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.

“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.

“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.”

He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.

“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.

“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.


新海峡时报（New Straits Times）可不是什么小报

简介：马来西亚历史最久、发行量最大的英文对开日报。原为新加坡<海峡时报>的吉隆坡版，1845年由英国人在新加坡创刊,初为周刊,1858年改为日报。1965年新加坡与马来西亚分治后，分别在新加坡和吉隆坡出版。其后马来西亚政府要求在两地出版的同名报纸脱离关系，并于1972年将在吉隆坡出版的改用现名。

http://baike.baidu.com/view/11001244.htm?fr=aladdin
http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/海峽時報
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Straits_Times


另附机器翻译，能看个大概：

吉隆坡:情报分析人员在美国已经得出结论,马来西亚航空公司飞行MH17被一个空空导弹,击落,乌克兰政府已经与它。
这支持了新兴理论假定由当地调查人员,波音777 - 200是受损的空对空导弹和火炮完成了从一个战士被尾随的落在地球上。
在日期为8月3日的报告,标题是“飞行17击落一场景变化”,美联社记者罗伯特·帕里说“一些美国情报来源已经得出结论,叛军和俄罗斯很可能不是错,似乎乌克兰政府军队归咎于“。
这个新的启示张贴在GlobalResearch,一个独立的研究和媒体组织。
在一份声明中公布的乌克兰大使馆周二,基辅否认其战斗机机载期间MH17被击落。此前俄罗斯国防部发表的声明中表示,其空中交通管制已检测到乌克兰空军当天的活动区域。
他们也否认了所有指控表示由俄罗斯政府和国家的核心利益是在确保立即全面、透明和公正的国际调查悲剧通过建立一个国家委员会由来自国际民用航空组织(ICAO)的专家和欧洲。
“我们有证据证明飞机被击落俄罗斯恐怖BUK-M1山姆系统(北大西洋公约组织报告名称SA-11),和船员一起,提供来自俄罗斯。这都是证实了我们的情报,拦截电话的恐怖分子和卫星图片。
”与此同时,乌克兰军队从来没有使用任何防空导弹自4月初反恐行动开始,”声明中阅读。
昨天,《新海峡时报》引述专家曾表示,爆炸碎片的照片模式客机的机身上显示两个不同的形状——分解模式与一个弹头挤满了“flechettes”,统一越多,round-type渗透孔符合炮轮。
帕里的结论也源于这样一个事实:尽管奥巴马政府断言,没有丝毫的有形证据来支持这样的结论:俄罗斯为叛军提供BUK-M1防空导弹系统,才能达到民用飞机飞行在33000英尺。
帕里也引用了7月29日加拿大广播公司采访迈克尔•Bociurkiw的第一个欧洲安全与合作组织(欧安组织)调查人员到达灾难现场,顿涅茨克附近。
Bociurkiw Ukrainian-Canadian监控与欧安组织,连同另一位同事,是第一个国际监督员达到飞行MH17后的残骸在乌克兰东部了。
在加拿大广播公司的采访中,记者在视频之前:“飞机残骸仍闷当从欧安组织一个小团队。没有其他官员到达天”。
”有两个或三个的机身,真的有什么看起来像机枪扫射,非常,非常强大的机枪开火,“Bociurkiw在采访中说。
帕里说,Bociurkiw的证词是“接近处女,和我们以前得到的证据和证言。与黑盒interpretation-analysis长之后的俄罗斯,英国或乌克兰政府,每个都有一匹马在这个种族,这个Bociurkiw的证词是原始的,独立的,来自最早的两个目击者的物理证据。
“这是有力的权威的证词。Bociurkiw快速到达那里,因为他与当地人的欧安组织谈判团队,组织来之后,”帕里曾说。
退休的德国汉莎航空公司飞行员击落彼得Haisenko还重的新理论与帕里,指着出入境洞围绕驾驶舱。
“你能看到出入境洞。洞的边缘部分是向内弯曲。这些都是小洞,圆和清洁,显示入口点最有可能的30毫米口径弹丸。
“其他的边缘,大,稍有磨损退出洞,显示产生的金属碎片指向相同的口径炮弹。此外,很明显,这些退出洞的外层双铝钢筋结构分解或弯曲,表面上。”
他推断,为了有内孔磨损,和其他人磨损表面上,必须有一个战斗机发射到客机的驾驶舱的右舷。这是至关重要的,因为没有surface-fired导弹(或弹片)的客机可能上打孔到飞机的驾驶舱双方。
“这不得不从双方一阵子弹,飞机下来。这是Haisenko的主要发现。你可以没有炮弹朝着两个方向——left-hand-side机身面板从其左右——除非他们在小组来自不同的方向。
“没有人Haisenko之前注意到炮弹已经席卷的面板从左边和右边。这是排除了任何ground-fired导弹,”帕里。


原文链接：http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
BY HARIS HUSSAIN - 7 AUGUST 2014 @ 8:20 AM

KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.

In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”.

This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.

In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day.

They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the country’s core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol.

“We have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures.

“At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never used any anti-aircraft missiles since the anti-terrorist operations started in early April,” the statement read.

Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes — the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with “flechettes”, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.

Parry’s conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.

Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.

Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.

In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: “The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days”.

“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machinegun fire; very, very strong machinegun fire,” Bociurkiw said in the interview.

Parry had said that Bociurkiw’s testimony is “as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as we’ll ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.

“That’s powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later,” Parry had said.

Retired Lufthansa pilot Peter Haisenko had also weighed in on the new shootdown theory with Parry and pointed to the entry and exit holes centred around the cockpit.

“You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30mm caliber projectile.

“The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes, show shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent — outwardly.”

He deduced that in order to have some of those holes fraying inwardly, and the others fraying outwardly, there had to have been a second fighter firing into the cockpit from the airliner’s starboard side. This is critical, as no surface-fired missile (or shrapnel) hitting the airliner could possibly punch holes into the cockpit from both sides of the plane.

“It had to have been a hail of bullets from both sides that brought the plane down. This is Haisenko’s main discovery. You can’t have projectiles going in both directions — into the left-hand-side fuselage panel from both its left and right sides — unless they are coming at the panel from different directions.

“Nobody before Haisenko had noticed that the projectiles had ripped through that panel from both its left side and its right side. This is what rules out any ground-fired missile,” Parry had said.


新海峡时报（New Straits Times）可不是什么小报

简介：马来西亚历史最久、发行量最大的英文对开日报。原为新加坡<海峡时报>的吉隆坡版，1845年由英国人在新加坡创刊,初为周刊,1858年改为日报。1965年新加坡与马来西亚分治后，分别在新加坡和吉隆坡出版。其后马来西亚政府要求在两地出版的同名报纸脱离关系，并于1972年将在吉隆坡出版的改用现名。

http://baike.baidu.com/view/11001244.htm?fr=aladdin
http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/海峽時報
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Straits_Times


另附机器翻译，能看个大概：

吉隆坡:情报分析人员在美国已经得出结论,马来西亚航空公司飞行MH17被一个空空导弹,击落,乌克兰政府已经与它。
这支持了新兴理论假定由当地调查人员,波音777 - 200是受损的空对空导弹和火炮完成了从一个战士被尾随的落在地球上。
在日期为8月3日的报告,标题是“飞行17击落一场景变化”,美联社记者罗伯特·帕里说“一些美国情报来源已经得出结论,叛军和俄罗斯很可能不是错,似乎乌克兰政府军队归咎于“。
这个新的启示张贴在GlobalResearch,一个独立的研究和媒体组织。
在一份声明中公布的乌克兰大使馆周二,基辅否认其战斗机机载期间MH17被击落。此前俄罗斯国防部发表的声明中表示,其空中交通管制已检测到乌克兰空军当天的活动区域。
他们也否认了所有指控表示由俄罗斯政府和国家的核心利益是在确保立即全面、透明和公正的国际调查悲剧通过建立一个国家委员会由来自国际民用航空组织(ICAO)的专家和欧洲。
“我们有证据证明飞机被击落俄罗斯恐怖BUK-M1山姆系统(北大西洋公约组织报告名称SA-11),和船员一起,提供来自俄罗斯。这都是证实了我们的情报,拦截电话的恐怖分子和卫星图片。
”与此同时,乌克兰军队从来没有使用任何防空导弹自4月初反恐行动开始,”声明中阅读。
昨天,《新海峡时报》引述专家曾表示,爆炸碎片的照片模式客机的机身上显示两个不同的形状——分解模式与一个弹头挤满了“flechettes”,统一越多,round-type渗透孔符合炮轮。
帕里的结论也源于这样一个事实:尽管奥巴马政府断言,没有丝毫的有形证据来支持这样的结论:俄罗斯为叛军提供BUK-M1防空导弹系统,才能达到民用飞机飞行在33000英尺。
帕里也引用了7月29日加拿大广播公司采访迈克尔•Bociurkiw的第一个欧洲安全与合作组织(欧安组织)调查人员到达灾难现场,顿涅茨克附近。
Bociurkiw Ukrainian-Canadian监控与欧安组织,连同另一位同事,是第一个国际监督员达到飞行MH17后的残骸在乌克兰东部了。
在加拿大广播公司的采访中,记者在视频之前:“飞机残骸仍闷当从欧安组织一个小团队。没有其他官员到达天”。
”有两个或三个的机身,真的有什么看起来像机枪扫射,非常,非常强大的机枪开火,“Bociurkiw在采访中说。
帕里说,Bociurkiw的证词是“接近处女,和我们以前得到的证据和证言。与黑盒interpretation-analysis长之后的俄罗斯,英国或乌克兰政府,每个都有一匹马在这个种族,这个Bociurkiw的证词是原始的,独立的,来自最早的两个目击者的物理证据。
“这是有力的权威的证词。Bociurkiw快速到达那里,因为他与当地人的欧安组织谈判团队,组织来之后,”帕里曾说。
退休的德国汉莎航空公司飞行员击落彼得Haisenko还重的新理论与帕里,指着出入境洞围绕驾驶舱。
“你能看到出入境洞。洞的边缘部分是向内弯曲。这些都是小洞,圆和清洁,显示入口点最有可能的30毫米口径弹丸。
“其他的边缘,大,稍有磨损退出洞,显示产生的金属碎片指向相同的口径炮弹。此外,很明显,这些退出洞的外层双铝钢筋结构分解或弯曲,表面上。”
他推断,为了有内孔磨损,和其他人磨损表面上,必须有一个战斗机发射到客机的驾驶舱的右舷。这是至关重要的,因为没有surface-fired导弹(或弹片)的客机可能上打孔到飞机的驾驶舱双方。
“这不得不从双方一阵子弹,飞机下来。这是Haisenko的主要发现。你可以没有炮弹朝着两个方向——left-hand-side机身面板从其左右——除非他们在小组来自不同的方向。
“没有人Haisenko之前注意到炮弹已经席卷的面板从左边和右边。这是排除了任何ground-fired导弹,”帕里。