美国海军受到弹道导弹进攻可以判断目标是否核弹头吗?

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预警雷达是否能对弹道导弹战斗部有判读认知

有那位出来科普下这个问题

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预警雷达是否能对弹道导弹战斗部有判读认知

有那位出来科普下这个问题

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若是没认知导弹战斗部是否产生误判?
这个只有打热线问了,或者脑补
最多从发射数据判断导弹的大致类型,以及从所在国家技术水平及政治、军事氛围判断对方动用核武的可能性究竟有多大,要通过雷达判断还是不能,因此冷战时期有关弹道导弹的使用一直是个敏感问题,有关对方发射弹道导弹到落地之前的本方决策一直是个非常困难的博弈
大致能判断哪些一定是核弹头。

从弹道轨迹可以判断出是洲际、中程还是短程,洲际的肯定是核弹头,中短程的就不好说了
1:美国海军受到弹道导弹进攻可以判断目标是否核弹头吗?
答案:是的。
等他落地后就判断出来了。
2:预警雷达是否能对弹道导弹战斗部有判读认知
答案:是的。
能判断出老式的假战斗部。至于真的战斗部,具体要区分是哪种,比如常规还是核武,还不能。
3: 若是没认知导弹战斗部是否产生误判?
答案:是的。
有没有认知,误判也有可能发生,美国曾经发生过多次虚警,雷达上出现很多洲际导弹目标,其实是雷达出错压根什么都没有。载有核武的飞机都已经升空了,被召回来。何况真的呢?
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美军舰队发现弹道导弹若不能分辩是否携带核弹头,这种情况美军将采取怎么样的反制行动

一但美军舰队预警系统发现弹道导弹目标是否有可能发射核弹?
要的就是这个效果
洲际导弹够不着
一开始用常规弹头,待其麻痹了之后,就可以用核弹头了
怎么可能误判。一个导弹来了就全球核毁灭,你怎么不被一个子弹打了就发核弹报复?


又是这个话题唉。本资料党默默地甩两段话。
Examining the doctrinal text, Zhanyi Lilun Xuexi
Zhinan
(A Guide to the Study of Campaign Theory)
provided more information on China’s nuclear
doctrine, force deployment, command and control,
and survivability measures than has been available in
the past. Combining the examination of authoritative
doctrinal text with materials from the Chinese press
and those obtained through the Open Source Center
helped to confirm the authenticity of the doctrinal
text and provided supporting evidence for judgments
about the nature of China’s strategic rocket forces, their
organization, readiness levels, and their control.
Another critical factor in the nuclear threat equation
faced in the United States is the calculation by the
CMC that China is able to absorb nuclear strikes with
less catastrophic effects that the United States. This
judgment is a function of China’s historical military
culture, geography, and an intentional state-directed
policy of civil defense and risk distribution.111 For the
United States, this means that Chinese leaders may
miscalculate American will and mistakenly take risky
actions.
The decision by Beijing to put nuclear and
conventional warheads on the same classes of ballistic
missiles and colocate them near each other in firing
units of the Second Artillery Corps also increases the
risk of accidental nuclear conflict. If a country with good
surveillance systems, like the United States, detects a
missile being launched, it has serious choices to make.
It can absorb a first strike, see whether it is hit with a
nuclear or conventional weapon, and retaliate in kind;
or it can decide to launch a major strike on warning. If
the nation under attack has ballistic missile defenses,
it might be able to stop an incoming missile and seek
other ways to reduce tensions and a wide war.

A critical factor in any American decision will
be the capabilities of American space-based sensor
systems. Accurate sensors may be able to determine
whether China launched a conventional or nucleartipped
missile, and such a determination could prevent
immediate escalation of a crisis or conflict.
However, some PLA officers advocate the
capability for China to ensure that foreign surveillance
assets cannot observe China from space. Indeed,
on two occasions in recent months, the PLA has
taken actions to demonstrate that it has moved from
theoretical research and simulations of space warfare
to demonstrate the capability to blind or destroy
satellites over China. Moreover, the commander of the
Second Artillery Corps has postponed a visit to the
United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) at the
invitation of the STRATCOM commander, to engage
in a strategic dialogue about such matters as a means
of threat reduction.
The discussion of the need to mass missile fire
and use missiles decisively, with surprise, in a theater
war also undermines the likelihood that China would
adhere to its own declared “no first use” policy. These
considerations also reinforce the need for the United
States to have effective ballistic missile defenses.
Perhaps the most serious questions raised in this
paper are about the PLA’s concentrated efforts to
attack a deployed, moving aircraft carrier battle group.
The PLA is coming closer to achieving that capability.
The ambiguity over what form any ballistic (or cruise)
missile attack might take creates a volatile situation in
case of any crisis over Taiwan, or between China and
Japan.
Finally, the debate inside China over the viability
of its “no first use” policy is real. At present, older
veterans of the Foreign Ministry and the PLA insist that
the policy stay unchanged. However, younger scholars,
soldiers, and diplomats will keep up the pressure to
pull back from this policy, which requires continued
attention and strategic dialogue with China’s policy
community.
At present, China has no real-time global space
surveillance capability. Therefore, warning of
impending nuclear attack must come from human
intelligence. A global surveillance capability requires a
system of relay satellites, which China is building but
has not achieved. Thus, as China’s space surveillance
improves over the next decade, its nuclear doctrine
will probably evolve.
These are serious matters for the American armed
forces. China’s nuclear forces are evolving and the way
they are used is under debate. The way that the PLA
handles its commitment to dominating space and its
commitment to being capable of attacking American
C4ISR systems affects strategic warning, missile
defenses, and command and control. For the Army,
with the responsibility to defend the United States
against missile attack, it means that watching the
evolution of this debate in China is critical to success.

以上内容摘自:CHINA’S NUCLEAR FORCES:OPERATIONS, TRAINING, DOCTRINE,COMMAND, CONTROL,AND CAMPAIGN PLANNING(Larry M. Wortzel,May 2007)
……战争不止是政治行为,而是真正的政治工具,是政治交往的延续,是政治交往通过另一种手段的实现。……对求和决心影响更大的是对已经付出和即将付出的努力的认识。战争不是毫无意义的冲动行为,而是由政治目的所支配的行为,政治目的的价值决定了该付出多大、多久的牺牲。付出的努力一旦超出政治目的的价值,这个目的就会遭到摒弃,和平就会来临。

以上内容摘自:《战争论》,克劳塞维茨著,张蕾芳译。

又是这个话题唉。本资料党默默地甩两段话。
Examining the doctrinal text, Zhanyi Lilun Xuexi
Zhinan
(A Guide to the Study of Campaign Theory)
provided more information on China’s nuclear
doctrine, force deployment, command and control,
and survivability measures than has been available in
the past. Combining the examination of authoritative
doctrinal text with materials from the Chinese press
and those obtained through the Open Source Center
helped to confirm the authenticity of the doctrinal
text and provided supporting evidence for judgments
about the nature of China’s strategic rocket forces, their
organization, readiness levels, and their control.
Another critical factor in the nuclear threat equation
faced in the United States is the calculation by the
CMC that China is able to absorb nuclear strikes with
less catastrophic effects that the United States. This
judgment is a function of China’s historical military
culture, geography, and an intentional state-directed
policy of civil defense and risk distribution.111 For the
United States, this means that Chinese leaders may
miscalculate American will and mistakenly take risky
actions.
The decision by Beijing to put nuclear and
conventional warheads on the same classes of ballistic
missiles and colocate them near each other in firing
units of the Second Artillery Corps also increases the
risk of accidental nuclear conflict. If a country with good
surveillance systems, like the United States, detects a
missile being launched, it has serious choices to make.
It can absorb a first strike, see whether it is hit with a
nuclear or conventional weapon, and retaliate in kind;
or it can decide to launch a major strike on warning. If
the nation under attack has ballistic missile defenses,
it might be able to stop an incoming missile and seek
other ways to reduce tensions and a wide war.

A critical factor in any American decision will
be the capabilities of American space-based sensor
systems. Accurate sensors may be able to determine
whether China launched a conventional or nucleartipped
missile, and such a determination could prevent
immediate escalation of a crisis or conflict.
However, some PLA officers advocate the
capability for China to ensure that foreign surveillance
assets cannot observe China from space. Indeed,
on two occasions in recent months, the PLA has
taken actions to demonstrate that it has moved from
theoretical research and simulations of space warfare
to demonstrate the capability to blind or destroy
satellites over China. Moreover, the commander of the
Second Artillery Corps has postponed a visit to the
United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) at the
invitation of the STRATCOM commander, to engage
in a strategic dialogue about such matters as a means
of threat reduction.
The discussion of the need to mass missile fire
and use missiles decisively, with surprise, in a theater
war also undermines the likelihood that China would
adhere to its own declared “no first use” policy. These
considerations also reinforce the need for the United
States to have effective ballistic missile defenses.
Perhaps the most serious questions raised in this
paper are about the PLA’s concentrated efforts to
attack a deployed, moving aircraft carrier battle group.
The PLA is coming closer to achieving that capability.
The ambiguity over what form any ballistic (or cruise)
missile attack might take creates a volatile situation in
case of any crisis over Taiwan, or between China and
Japan.
Finally, the debate inside China over the viability
of its “no first use” policy is real. At present, older
veterans of the Foreign Ministry and the PLA insist that
the policy stay unchanged. However, younger scholars,
soldiers, and diplomats will keep up the pressure to
pull back from this policy, which requires continued
attention and strategic dialogue with China’s policy
community.
At present, China has no real-time global space
surveillance capability. Therefore, warning of
impending nuclear attack must come from human
intelligence. A global surveillance capability requires a
system of relay satellites, which China is building but
has not achieved. Thus, as China’s space surveillance
improves over the next decade, its nuclear doctrine
will probably evolve.
These are serious matters for the American armed
forces. China’s nuclear forces are evolving and the way
they are used is under debate. The way that the PLA
handles its commitment to dominating space and its
commitment to being capable of attacking American
C4ISR systems affects strategic warning, missile
defenses, and command and control. For the Army,
with the responsibility to defend the United States
against missile attack, it means that watching the
evolution of this debate in China is critical to success.

以上内容摘自:CHINA’S NUCLEAR FORCES:OPERATIONS, TRAINING, DOCTRINE,COMMAND, CONTROL,AND CAMPAIGN PLANNING(Larry M. Wortzel,May 2007)
……战争不止是政治行为,而是真正的政治工具,是政治交往的延续,是政治交往通过另一种手段的实现。……对求和决心影响更大的是对已经付出和即将付出的努力的认识。战争不是毫无意义的冲动行为,而是由政治目的所支配的行为,政治目的的价值决定了该付出多大、多久的牺牲。付出的努力一旦超出政治目的的价值,这个目的就会遭到摒弃,和平就会来临。

以上内容摘自:《战争论》,克劳塞维茨著,张蕾芳译。
MD选择重启潜射中程弹道导弹项目,我觉得说明了MD希望获得快速的打击反舰弹道导弹体系的能力,也从一个侧面说明其不会选择动用核武器来进行反击

akula971 发表于 2014-4-15 21:44
怎么可能误判。一个导弹来了就全球核毁灭,你怎么不被一个子弹打了就发核弹报复?
在无法得知目标是否存在核威胁时

美军的反制效应将采用怎么样的行动
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 21:48
MD选择重启潜射中程弹道导弹项目,我觉得说明了MD希望获得快速的打击反舰弹道导弹体系的能力,也从一个侧面 ...
在美国军队根本没有认为有什么反舰弹道导弹

这只是一种假设

弹道导弹就是弹道导弹
西门吸血 发表于 2014-4-15 21:47
又是这个话题唉。占楼。一会补资料。
我也说说个人看法
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 21:50
在美国军队根本没有认为有什么反舰弹道导弹

这只是一种假设
已经被TG高层证实了,早就不是架设了

没啥大事,大国谁会发核弹。。。
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 21:48
在无法得知目标是否存在核威胁时

美军的反制效应将采用怎么样的行动
正常规避,干扰,拦截就是。
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 21:52
已经被TG高层证实了,早就不是架设了
反舰弹道导弹从来没任何国家的公开性证实

出于不方便不想讨论美军进行弹道导弹打航母的设计
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 21:56
反舰弹道导弹从来没任何国家的公开性证实

出于不方便不想讨论美军进行弹道导弹打航母的设计
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5 ... 3%E5%AF%BC%E5%BC%B9

2005年,美国国防部声称中华人民共和国研制并测试了世界上第一种反舰弹道导弹——东风-21丁型导弹,射程约为3,000千米(1,900英里)。据估计该型导弹在2007年或2008年已经达到初始作战能力,而制导系统仍处在渐进的发展中,更多的无人机和卫星正编入该系统。[3]美国假设东风-21反舰弹道导弹已经与2009年服役。[4][5]


西门吸血 发表于 2014-4-15 21:47
又是这个话题唉。占楼。一会补资料。

以上内容摘自CHINA’S NUCLEAR FORCES:OPERATIONS, TRAINING, DOCT ...
在可以掌握和讨论的范围

美国海军对弹道导弹特别是航母对弹道导弹的威胁是以对手极有可能对停靠在海港的航母采用弹道导弹实施作战

因此也极有可能对手使用核战斗部所以关于这类话题还没具体的答案
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 21:52
已经被TG高层证实了,早就不是架设了
目前可以讨论的假设

能公开讨论给你一个看点

就是美国海军是担心来自对手弹道导弹对海港停靠的航母和军舰进行作战

并有使用核弹头以提高精确度的不足这是美国海军设计航母大战输掉的因素一部分只能探讨到这
巡航导弹可以带核弹头
飞机可以带核炸弹
潜艇可以带核鱼雷
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 22:06
目前可以讨论的假设

能公开讨论给你一个看点
核弹头的反舰弹道导弹是冷战时候的,TG的反舰弹道导弹是常规弹头的


笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 21:48
MD选择重启潜射中程弹道导弹项目,我觉得说明了MD希望获得快速的打击反舰弹道导弹体系的能力,也从一个侧面 ...


+1。赞成你的看法。美帝首先的选择会是采取措施防御弹道导弹打击,然后寻求其他方法缓和局势解决冲突,避免战争升级,除非真的到了重启地球Online的时候……反之,对于中国同样如此。
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 21:48
MD选择重启潜射中程弹道导弹项目,我觉得说明了MD希望获得快速的打击反舰弹道导弹体系的能力,也从一个侧面 ...


+1。赞成你的看法。美帝首先的选择会是采取措施防御弹道导弹打击,然后寻求其他方法缓和局势解决冲突,避免战争升级,除非真的到了重启地球Online的时候……反之,对于中国同样如此。
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:03
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%8D%E8%88%B0%E5%BC%B9%E9%81%93%E5%AF%BC%E5%BC%B9

2005年,美 ...
你说的话题是一个相对话题

70年代苏联也有类同的反航母弹道导弹

事实上在对手发展提高弹道导弹作战精确度时美国也在提高行母的反制作战水平有效抵消从这角度上看就像二战的轰炸机能对二战的航母作战但不能对现代的航母作战

中国反航母弹道导弹和你所指的设备是理论性

在可操作性上随着抵消性发展你所指的设备很多国家早已具备并不特别
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:03
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8F%8D%E8%88%B0%E5%BC%B9%E9%81%93%E5%AF%BC%E5%BC%B9

2005年,美 ...
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中国连这类无人机也未曾有或运用自如

所以一切假设还是假设
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:08
核弹头的反舰弹道导弹是冷战时候的,TG的反舰弹道导弹是常规弹头的
根本就没反航母弹道导弹

所以你在假设来讨论没可辩论性
西门吸血 发表于 2014-4-15 22:10
+1。赞成你的看法。会采取措施防御弹道导弹打击,然后寻求其他方法缓和局势解决冲突,避免战争升级。
将战争转向了不怎么接触的远程导弹作战



展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 22:11
你说的话题是一个相对话题

70年代苏联也有类同的反航母弹道导弹
额,没看懂你发的内容



笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:08
核弹头的反舰弹道导弹是冷战时候的,TG的反舰弹道导弹是常规弹头的


美国海军对中国的弹道导弹对抗母作战时预设中国将首选进攻美军航母海港

而使用的将是更远射程的弹道导弹而非D21

这是美军最为担心的是中国可能采用核弹头

而以外的设计中国的反航母作战就不在可以讨论范围
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:08
核弹头的反舰弹道导弹是冷战时候的,TG的反舰弹道导弹是常规弹头的


美国海军对中国的弹道导弹对抗母作战时预设中国将首选进攻美军航母海港

而使用的将是更远射程的弹道导弹而非D21

这是美军最为担心的是中国可能采用核弹头

而以外的设计中国的反航母作战就不在可以讨论范围
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:14
将战争转向了不怎么接触的远程导弹作战
抵消发展解读是

一种装备被以外一种装备抵消

目前还没看到中国有这类装备
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:14
额,没看懂你发的内容
美军认为中国一但战争

有大量并不先进的弹道导弹也不用先进的制导将有效对停靠在海港的航母作为报复性作战行动

这将使美军非常被动
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 21:48
MD选择重启潜射中程弹道导弹项目,我觉得说明了MD希望获得快速的打击反舰弹道导弹体系的能力,也从一个侧面 ...
用中程弹道导弹快速打击反舰弹道导弹体系?

那他打什么呢?不可能是导弹发射车吧?

其次,往中国本土发射弹道导弹,还是潜射,真心不怕误判?
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 22:21
美军认为中国一但战争

有大量并不先进的弹道导弹也不用先进的制导将有效对停靠在海港的航母作为报复性 ...
如果TG有能力隐蔽弹道导弹攻击直到飞向停靠在港口内的美国航空母舰而不被发现,那么MD不如选择不要介入同TG的冲突

笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:44
如果TG有能力隐蔽弹道导弹攻击直到飞向停靠在港口内的美国航空母舰而不被发现,那么MD不如选择不要介入同 ...
美国海军认为,即使很落后的弹道导弹也能对美国军港进行作战

这类导弹只要在计酸的作标为置而后发射装载核战斗部将使美国海军遭到巨大威胁

所以美国认为美中交战中国一但使用二炮部队美军则可先发制使用核武器作战否则双方都不能使用弹道导弹作战
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 22:13
根本就没反航母弹道导弹

所以你在假设来讨论没可辩论性
天朝的反航母弹道导弹,不是打击海面上移动的航母,是打击港口停泊的航母,反航母BM飞行弹道低,而且弹头采用高速滑翔弹,反航母BM的整个飞行阶段(中段和末段)相比一般的BM更容易被拦截。





食人花123456 发表于 2014-4-15 22:49
天朝的反航母弹道导弹,不是打击海面上移动的航母,是打击港口停泊的航母,反航母BM飞行弹道低,而且弹头 ...
事实上还有一个更为有效的反航母作战设计的评估在美国海军部
但这不能讨论
展望海洋 发表于 2014-4-15 21:51
我也说说个人看法
机翻贴图教教主,你确信你有“个人看法”?
笑脸男人 发表于 2014-4-15 22:14
额,没看懂你发的内容
看不懂就对了。机翻贴图党么,用不知道什么软件翻译出来的中文,10句里面总有几句是有问题的。