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[BBC报道]052D--Buzz over China's new prototype warship
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19553811

Buzz over China's new prototype warship
China has worked to enhance its naval capability in recent years


Over recent weeks China defence bloggers have been excited by the emergence of pictures of what appears to be a new class of guided missile destroyer for the Chinese Navy.

The hazy pictures on the blogs suggest that one of the vessels - dubbed the PLAN 052D - was launched at the end of last month. At least two others are already under construction.

Chinese warship design tends to evolve gradually. Here the PLAN 052D is no exception - it bears clear links to its predecessor, the 052C.

But it differs in important respects to the extent that many analysts believe what we are seeing is the first of what could be a series of new Chinese warships that could form the backbone of its fleet.

Prof James Holmes, a China-watcher at the US Naval War College, says the chief significance of the new vessel "is that China appears to have settled on a design for a top-of-the-line guided-missile destroyer after a lengthy period of 'fleet experimentation' - a gestation period, if you will".

"The PLA Navy has made a habit of building a couple of copies of each design, taking them to sea, identifying their faults and strengths, and incorporating the lessons learned into future designs," he says.
"Evidently Beijing is satisfied it has learned enough to go into mass production, if indeed," as he believes, "10 hulls are under construction."

"One hopes it will finally settle the debate about the direction and permanence of Chinese naval power," he adds.

There are strong indications, he argues, that the Chinese "believe they've found their standard surface combatant."

This new destroyer could be a central element of Beijing's new blue-water navy.

'Upgraded weapon'
Another observer of Chinese naval affairs is Feng Cao. It was his blogging that first alerted Western defence circles to the new warship design.

He has been making a careful study of Chinese defence publications and displays at trade exhibitions for several years, piecing together clues to the way in which China's naval power is developing.

He is not so sure that the 052D is itself the new vessel. But he explained that it was an important step towards what the Chinese Navy has wanted for years; a capable guided-missile destroyer somewhere in size between the US Navy's Arleigh Burke and Ticonderoga classes.

"In a couple of years, we will see a whole new class of surface warship that uses a new propulsion system," he says.

"From the 052C to the 052D, the hull itself really didn't change that much other than moving a couple of things around to fit the new weapon systems and decreasing the radar signature of the ship a little bit. The propulsion system is basically still the same."

"What's really changed is the weapons system," he says. "The first obvious change are the new larger and flat multi-functional radar panels and the new vertical launch system (VLS).

"They are no longer using the VLS we saw on 052C, but rather a new type of universal VLS that can support different types of missiles to strike at both air and sea targets as well as against shore installations."

In his view the 052D is "a stepping stone to that new series of surface warship they want to get to. 052D basically uses an existing proven hull and propulsion system to test out these new weapon systems."

"When the new series of ships come along," he says, "they will have less risks to worry about, because much of the weapon systems will already have their issues worked out using the 052D."

James Holmes stresses the significant leap in capability that these new vessels will bring. The United States' equivalent ships are fitted with the so-called Aegis radar and battle-management system.

If, as he believes, this is an Aegis equivalent ship and there are plans to build 10 of them, then he says "this will give China's navy an air-defence capability on par with that of any navy in the region, and far more hulls than any other Asian fleet."

"Japan and South Korea have Aegis vessels, but only six and three, respectively," he says.

US counterpart
Prof Holmes says the new Chinese vessel's closest US counterpart is probably the US Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, its first Aegis ships.

Though he notes that the new Chinese destroyer "carries only two-thirds the complement of missile launchers, so the US ships would have the edge in a one-on-one engagement".

His guess, he says, "in the absence of any hard evidence", "is that the Type 052D is on par with older US Aegis vessels. This is the big unknown, and I would encourage no one to make policy or strategy based on my guesswork!"

James Holmes stresses that the modus operandi of the Chinese navy must also be taken into account when assessing the impact these new ships might have. The 052D may be an inferior vessel to its US counterparts, but it will not be operating alone.

"Let's keep in mind that China operates its fleet almost entirely within range of shore-based anti-ship missiles, fighter aircraft, and ships like patrol craft and submarines."

"These provide protective cover for the surface fleet and, Beijing believes (and I agree), that this is the great equaliser."

"Why go to the effort and expense of building a mirror image of the US Navy if you can hammer away from shore? In short, China doesn't need a fleet symmetrical to the US Navy to fight on ground of its own choosing, namely the China seas and Western Pacific."
[BBC报道]052D--Buzz over China's new prototype warship
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19553811

Buzz over China's new prototype warship
China has worked to enhance its naval capability in recent years


Over recent weeks China defence bloggers have been excited by the emergence of pictures of what appears to be a new class of guided missile destroyer for the Chinese Navy.

The hazy pictures on the blogs suggest that one of the vessels - dubbed the PLAN 052D - was launched at the end of last month. At least two others are already under construction.

Chinese warship design tends to evolve gradually. Here the PLAN 052D is no exception - it bears clear links to its predecessor, the 052C.

But it differs in important respects to the extent that many analysts believe what we are seeing is the first of what could be a series of new Chinese warships that could form the backbone of its fleet.

Prof James Holmes, a China-watcher at the US Naval War College, says the chief significance of the new vessel "is that China appears to have settled on a design for a top-of-the-line guided-missile destroyer after a lengthy period of 'fleet experimentation' - a gestation period, if you will".

"The PLA Navy has made a habit of building a couple of copies of each design, taking them to sea, identifying their faults and strengths, and incorporating the lessons learned into future designs," he says.
"Evidently Beijing is satisfied it has learned enough to go into mass production, if indeed," as he believes, "10 hulls are under construction."

"One hopes it will finally settle the debate about the direction and permanence of Chinese naval power," he adds.

There are strong indications, he argues, that the Chinese "believe they've found their standard surface combatant."

This new destroyer could be a central element of Beijing's new blue-water navy.

'Upgraded weapon'
Another observer of Chinese naval affairs is Feng Cao. It was his blogging that first alerted Western defence circles to the new warship design.

He has been making a careful study of Chinese defence publications and displays at trade exhibitions for several years, piecing together clues to the way in which China's naval power is developing.

He is not so sure that the 052D is itself the new vessel. But he explained that it was an important step towards what the Chinese Navy has wanted for years; a capable guided-missile destroyer somewhere in size between the US Navy's Arleigh Burke and Ticonderoga classes.

"In a couple of years, we will see a whole new class of surface warship that uses a new propulsion system," he says.

"From the 052C to the 052D, the hull itself really didn't change that much other than moving a couple of things around to fit the new weapon systems and decreasing the radar signature of the ship a little bit. The propulsion system is basically still the same."

"What's really changed is the weapons system," he says. "The first obvious change are the new larger and flat multi-functional radar panels and the new vertical launch system (VLS).

"They are no longer using the VLS we saw on 052C, but rather a new type of universal VLS that can support different types of missiles to strike at both air and sea targets as well as against shore installations."

In his view the 052D is "a stepping stone to that new series of surface warship they want to get to. 052D basically uses an existing proven hull and propulsion system to test out these new weapon systems."

"When the new series of ships come along," he says, "they will have less risks to worry about, because much of the weapon systems will already have their issues worked out using the 052D."

James Holmes stresses the significant leap in capability that these new vessels will bring. The United States' equivalent ships are fitted with the so-called Aegis radar and battle-management system.

If, as he believes, this is an Aegis equivalent ship and there are plans to build 10 of them, then he says "this will give China's navy an air-defence capability on par with that of any navy in the region, and far more hulls than any other Asian fleet."

"Japan and South Korea have Aegis vessels, but only six and three, respectively," he says.

US counterpart
Prof Holmes says the new Chinese vessel's closest US counterpart is probably the US Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, its first Aegis ships.

Though he notes that the new Chinese destroyer "carries only two-thirds the complement of missile launchers, so the US ships would have the edge in a one-on-one engagement".

His guess, he says, "in the absence of any hard evidence", "is that the Type 052D is on par with older US Aegis vessels. This is the big unknown, and I would encourage no one to make policy or strategy based on my guesswork!"

James Holmes stresses that the modus operandi of the Chinese navy must also be taken into account when assessing the impact these new ships might have. The 052D may be an inferior vessel to its US counterparts, but it will not be operating alone.

"Let's keep in mind that China operates its fleet almost entirely within range of shore-based anti-ship missiles, fighter aircraft, and ships like patrol craft and submarines."

"These provide protective cover for the surface fleet and, Beijing believes (and I agree), that this is the great equaliser."

"Why go to the effort and expense of building a mirror image of the US Navy if you can hammer away from shore? In short, China doesn't need a fleet symmetrical to the US Navy to fight on ground of its own choosing, namely the China seas and Western Pacific."
看不懂鸟语啊
看不懂鸟语啊
围绕中国的新原型军舰
中国一直致力于加强海军能力近年来


在最近几周中国国防博客已经兴奋的出现的照片似乎是一种新的导弹驱逐舰为中国海军。

模糊的照片在博客表明其中一艘——被称为计划推出052 d -上个月末。至少两人已经在建设。

中国军舰设计往往会逐渐演变。这里的计划052 d也不例外——有清楚其前任的链接,052 c。

但与在一些重要的方面,在某种程度上,许多分析师认为我们看到的第一个可能是一系列新的中国战舰可组成的舰队支柱。

詹姆斯·霍姆斯教授,中国问题观察家在美国海军战争学院说,最重要的意义的新船”,中国似乎已经安顿在设计一种高端导弹驱逐舰在一段时间的“舰队实验”——一个怀孕期,如果你将“。

“中国人民解放军海军已经做了一个习惯,建立一个两份每个设计,带他们去海,和优势,以确定他们的缺点,综合考虑到未来设计的经验教训,”他说。
“显然北京满意它学到足以进入大规模生产,如果确实,”他相信,“10船体正在建设。”

“一个希望它最终将解决的争论方向和永久的中国海军力量,”他补充道。

有明显迹象显示,他认为,中国“相信他们已经找到了他们的标准水面战斗。”

这个新的驱逐舰可能是一个中央元素的北京新蓝水海军。

”升级武器”
另一个观察者的中国海军事务是冯曹。这是他的博客,第一次向西方防务圈到新军舰设计。

他一直在认真研究中国国防出版物和d
机翻的
基本上都是CD上几星期前就烂大街的东西
亮点是James Holmes这人说凭自己猜测052D是老伯克级别的,然和马上就说绝对不要用我的猜测来做决策哦

PS: 到现在为止国外好像还没有人意识到海直星是主动阵


[BBC报道] 052D -网站超过中国的新的的原型舰http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19553811 网站在中国的新原型舰 中国一直在努力加强其在最近的海军能力年 最近几周,中国国防的博客被激发的出现似乎是为中国海军导弹驱逐舰一类新的图片。 朦胧的照片在博客上显示的船只之一-被称为计划052D -在上个月底推出。至少有两个人已经在建。 中国军舰设计趋于逐渐演变。这里的计划052D也不例外-它承担明确的联系,它的前身,052C, 但它在一些重要方面,许多分析师相信,我们所看到的是第一次,这可能是一个系列的新中国军舰的范围内,其车队的骨干。 ,中国观察家在美国海军战争学院教授詹姆斯·霍姆斯说,新船“的主要意义是,中国会出现一个顶级的设计上已经解决,线导弹驱逐舰经过一个漫长的“舰队试验” -一个酝酿期,如果你愿意。“ “ 中国人民解放军海军取得了一个习惯,一对夫妇的副本,每一个设计建设,带他们出海,确定自己的过错和长处,并结合到将来的设计中吸取的教训,“他说。 “显然,北京的满足,学会了如何进入大规模生产,如果确实,”他认为,“10船体正在建设中。” “ 人们希望这将最终解决中国海军力量的方向和持久的辩论,“他补充说, 有明显的迹象,他认为,中国的“相信他们已经找到了他们的标准水面战斗舰艇。” 这个新的驱逐舰可能是一个中央元素的北京新的蓝水海军。 “升级武器” 的中国海军事务的另一位观察员曹峰。这是他的博客,第一惊动西方防务界的新舰的设计。 几年,他一直在一个仔细研究中国国防出版物,并显示在贸易展览,拼凑在一起线索的方式中,中国海军实力的发展。 052D是新船,他不是那么肯定。但他解释说,这是迈出了重要的一步朝着什么中国海军已经想好几年,一个能够导弹驱逐舰的地方在大小之间美国海军的“阿利·伯克和提康德罗加类。 “在两三年内,我们将看到一个整体一类新的水面舰艇,采用了新的推进系统 ​​,“他说。 “从052C的052D,船体本身真的没有改变太多以外的移动周围的几件事情,以适应新的武器系统和减少船的雷达信号一点点的推进系统 ​​基本上还是一样的。“ “ 什么是真正改变的是武器系统,”他说。“第一个明显的变化是新的更大的多功能雷达和平面面板和新的垂直发射系统(VLS)。 “ 他们不再使用的VLS我们看到052C,而是一个新的类型,可以支持的通用VLS不同类型的导弹,打击空中和海上目标以及对海上设施。“ 在他看来,的052D是“一个垫脚石,一系列新的水面舰艇,他们想要得到的。052D基本上是使用现有的成熟的船体和推进系统 ​​,以测试这些新的武器系统。“ “ 当新系列的船一起走,”他说,“他们担心将有较少的风险,因为大部分的武器系统 如果已经有了自己的使用052D的问题。“ 霍姆斯强调,这些新船带来的显着能力的飞跃。美国相当于船都配有所谓的“宙斯盾”雷达和作战管理系统。他认为,这是一个“宙斯盾”相当于船和有计划,以建立10人,然后他说:“这将会给中国海军的防空能力看齐与任何海军在该地区,和更多的船体比任何其他亚洲舰队。“ “ 日本和韩国有”宙斯盾“的船只,但只有6和3,分别为,”他说, 美国对口 教授霍姆斯说,在新中国船只的最接近的美国对应的是可能的美国“阿利·伯克”级驱逐舰,其第一“宙斯盾”舰艇。 虽然他注意到,中国新驱逐舰“进行导弹发射只有三分之二的补,因此,美国船只将有一个一参与”的边缘。 他的猜测,他说,“在没有任何确凿的证据“,”是有年纪较大的美国神盾舰的类型052D看齐。这是最大的未知数,我会鼓励没有一个政策或策略,根据我的猜测!“ 霍姆斯强调的作案手法,中国海军还必须考虑的影响进行评估时,这些新船可能。的052D可以一个劣质船到它的美国同行,但其将不被运行单独 的“让我们的保留在心中,中国运作其船队几乎全部的岸基反舰导弹,战斗机和船只像巡逻的范围内工艺和潜艇。“ “ 这些防护罩的水面舰队,北京认为(我同意),这是伟大的均衡。” “ 为什么要建设的努力和牺牲,如果美国海军的一个镜像你可以锤远离岸边的吗?总之,中国并不需要一个对称的美海军在地上打自己的选择,即中国海和西太平洋的舰队。“



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昨在WW坛子里看他们说052C/D只能同时对付6个目标比日本的大大不如,那个IDF教主干脆说红酒最低射高有500米等等。。。。。。。。。
哪位大师能翻译下
尼玛,没能力就不要瞎翻译,看着蛋疼
这个翻译,是什么软件翻的,晕
说了半天,果然最后是亮点,兔子在兔子窝根本没必要复制美式舰队blabla_
看着这篇文章,真像以前的阅读理解题
破文就是破文,换成鸟语,还是破文,这种文章在CD没营养
亮点在于下面这句:

Though he notes that the new Chinese destroyer "carries only two-thirds the complement of missile launchers, so the US ships would have the edge in a one-on-one engagement".

大意是由于中国的驱逐舰只有美国驱逐舰三分之二的导弹发射装置,所以单挑时会吃亏。

原来导弹发射装置的数量是单舰作战能力的决定性因素,此高论竟然出于美国海军战争学院的教授之口。

中国新兴战舰的原型所引发的吵闹
中国在近些年努力加强它的海军力量,在最近近几周,中国的防务围脖为一首新型的导弹驱逐舰的照片的出现而热闹起来. 博客上出现的一张战舰的朦胧照片暗示中国的新型战舰052D在上个月底下水;最少有另外2艘在建造中。
中国的战舰设计倾向于逐步演进. 052D也不例外,它和它的前人052C有明显的联系;
但是它在很多方面又有不同程度的不同,很多分析家认为我们现在看到的这型战舰只是它的系列的第一艘,它们将是舰队的核心;
Prof James Holmes,美国海军军事学院的中国观察家说,052D的出现的首要意义是它表明了中国的顶级导弹驱逐舰在经历一系列的舰队实践后已经定型;
中国海军有一个习惯,他每一个型号只建造2艘,然后通过海上航行,分析它的缺点和强处,吸取经验教训运用到以后的设计中; 直到最后北京满意而根据需要进入规模生产;他相信,有10艘052D的舰体在建造中;
它有希望能为中国海军的发展方向和持续性的争论降下帷幕
有强烈的证据表明中国认为已经找到他们的水面战舰的标准
此新型驱逐舰有可能成为北京的新蓝水海军的中心;
“升级的武器”
另一个中国海军的观察家冯涛; 第一个在博客中提醒西方防务圈该新战舰;
他对中国过去几年的防务出版物,贸易展览的展示进行了仔细的研究,依据线索拼出中国海军发展的方向;
他不大肯定052D完全是艘新战舰;但他解释说它是中国海军朝目标前进的重要一步;一艘有一定能力的尺寸介于伯客级和提康德罗加级之间的导弹驱逐舰;
“在一两年内,我们将能看到一个装备了全新推进系统的新型水面战舰”
“从052C到052D,它们的外型其实没发生多大变化,看起来好象只是把一写设备进行从新部署以适应新的武器系统;减少了雷达信号,推进系统其实是一样的;
“发生变化的是它的武器系统”他说,”最明显的变化就是它的新的巨大的多功能平板雷达天线及新的垂直发射系统”
“他们不再使用我们在052C中看到的VLS,而是装备了一款新的通用型VLS,此VLS能支持不同型号的导弹去对付空中,海上及陆地目标”
在他看来,052D是他们朝向他们意图获得的新系列水面战舰的基石;,052D基本上是利用了现存的经过验证的外壳及推进系统去验证新型武器系统”
“当新系列战舰出现,他们就不用为此而太担心,因为大部分武器系统都已经在052D上使用过”
James Holmes强调此新战舰所带来的能力上的飞跃;美国对应的战舰所装备的所谓宇宙盾雷达及战斗系统”
他相信,如果中国海军准备建造10艘具备宇宙盾能力的052D,这会给中国海军与该地区任何其他海军匹敌的防空能力,而且比任何其他亚洲国家的数量更多”
“日本和韩国各自拥有6艘和3艘具有宙斯盾能力的战舰”
美国相应的装备
James Holmes说和中国的052D驱逐舰最类似的美国战舰是美国的伯客级驱逐舰”
虽然他提醒说中国的新型052D驱逐舰只拥有伯客2/3数量的导弹发射单元;由此美国战舰在一对一的情况下具有优势;
他推测说:”没有确凿的证据,052D能于老型号的伯可并驱齐驾,这不可知;我不鼓励任何人基于我的猜测指定政策及战略”
James Holmes强调在评估这型新战舰所带来的影响的时候必须考虑到中国海军的惯用手法,052D虽然可能比不上它的同类战舰,但是052D将不会单独行动”
“我们一定要记住,中国会把他的站队部署在他的岸基反舰导弹,航母战机,侦察机,潜艇的的射程之内”
“这为水面战舰提供了保护,我猜北京相信这是他的巨大平衡”
“当你能够在岸上就摆平周遍海域的时候,为什么付出巨大的努力和代价仿照美国海军进行建设?? 在短期内中国不需要一支能匹敌美国海军的的舰队去为了他自己的选择而战斗,也就是中国海几西太平洋”
看不懂。
piglulu99 发表于 2012-9-15 23:32
中国新兴战舰的原型所引发的吵闹
中国在近些年努力加强它的海军力量,在最近近几周,中国的防务围脖为一首 ...
哥们,你翻译的不错
这都像百度的翻译水平


最近几周中国的国防爱好者博主都因为一些刚刚出现的看起来是最一级的防空导弹驱逐舰的照片而兴奋起来。

这些出现在博客上的模糊的照片说明被称为052D的船已于上个月底下水,至少还有两艘已经在建。

中国的战舰设计倾向于逐步改进。这里的052D也不例外,它明显也它的前辈052C有密切关系。

但它也在很多重要方面有不同点,很多分析认为我们看到将会是一系列可以在舰队中担任骨干力量的新型中国战舰。

US Naval War College的中国观察家James Holmes教授说新战舰的主要说明了中国看来已经掌握了顶级导弹驱逐舰的设计,在经历了一个长时间的试验期后,或者可以叫孕育期。

“解放军海军喜欢每型战舰造上几艘,开到海上,发现它们的长处与不足,结合到未来的设计方案中。”他说:“北京明显已经满足于它学到的足够多的东西,可以量产了如果需要的话,”他认为:“至少10般在建。”

“有人希望它会最终使关于中国海军力量发展方向和长久战略的争论结束。”他又说。

很明显可以看出,中国相信他们已经找到的他们的标准水面作战力量。

新型驱逐舰将会成为北京的新型蓝水海军的中心力量。

“升级了的武器。”另一位中国海军事务观察员Feng Cao。他的博第一个提醒西方新战舰防卫圈设计。

他已经认真研究了很多年中国出版物和在国际贸易中的表现,试图理出中国海上力量的发展方案。

他并不砍052D本身是一型新战舰。但他解释说它是向中国海军多年的目标前进的重要一步,一种体型介于美国海军阿利·伯克和提康德罗加之间的强有力的防空导弹驱逐舰。

“几年内我们会看到一型全新的使用了新型推进系统的中国战舰。”他说。

“从052C到052D,船体本身真的没有什么变化,然而其上的武器系统去掉了一些,又换上了新的,也减小了一点船的雷达反射信号。推进系统完全没有变化。”

“真正变化的是武器系统,”他说:“最先看到的就是新的、更大的平板多功能雷达和新垂直发射系统。”

“它们不再是我们看到在052C上用的那种,而更象是那种可以使用多种导弹来同时攻击海上、空中和岸上目标的VLS。”

在他看来052D是他们向想要得到的水面作战舰艇的一块垫脚石。052D使用一种已经验证的船体和推进系统来检验其武器系统。

“当新型战舰到来时,”他说:“他们将会少一些担心,因为很多武器系统已经在052D上发挥过效用了。”

James Holmes指出了这些新战舰将会带的重大变化。美国对应的舰船装备的是宙斯盾雷达和战场管理系统。

他相信如果这是一型可与宙斯盾匹敌的战舰并且会建造10艘,将会给予中国海军在与任何本地区海军的对抗中以防空能力。比亚洲任何海军都要多的舰船。

“日本和韩国有宙斯盾战舰,但只有六艘和三艘。”他说。

美国的位置
Holmes教授说新的中国军舰在美国海军中对应的位置大概是阿里·伯克级驱逐舰,它们的第一艘盾舰。

然而他指出新的中国驱逐舰只拾三分之二的导弹,所以美国的军舰在一对一冲突中有优势。(这观点太二逼了,防空舰互砍?)

他也说,在缺少任何坚实信息的条件下,052D能否和美国的盾舰相匹敌还未可知,我不鼓励任务人根据我的分析制定策略。

James Holmes指出在评估中国新型战舰带来的影响里建造数量也要考虑进去。052D性能可能要低于在美国海军中对应的盾舰,但它不会单独执行任务。

不要忘记中国几乎只在岸舰导弹航程内、陆基飞机航程内和有潜艇的范围内使用舰队(他还说了个ships like patrol craft,油轮?)。

这些对水面舰队的保护,北京相信,我也同意,将会是巨大的失衡力量。

如果你能在岸上达成目标,为什么要花费人力财力建造美国海军的镜象?简单说,中国不需要象美国那样的舰队to fight on ground of its own choosing, namely the China seas and Western Pacific(看不懂)。

翻完了发现这贴没有看?这些人的理论到也很常规,都是论坛里常见的分析。

最近几周中国的国防爱好者博主都因为一些刚刚出现的看起来是最一级的防空导弹驱逐舰的照片而兴奋起来。

这些出现在博客上的模糊的照片说明被称为052D的船已于上个月底下水,至少还有两艘已经在建。

中国的战舰设计倾向于逐步改进。这里的052D也不例外,它明显也它的前辈052C有密切关系。

但它也在很多重要方面有不同点,很多分析认为我们看到将会是一系列可以在舰队中担任骨干力量的新型中国战舰。

US Naval War College的中国观察家James Holmes教授说新战舰的主要说明了中国看来已经掌握了顶级导弹驱逐舰的设计,在经历了一个长时间的试验期后,或者可以叫孕育期。

“解放军海军喜欢每型战舰造上几艘,开到海上,发现它们的长处与不足,结合到未来的设计方案中。”他说:“北京明显已经满足于它学到的足够多的东西,可以量产了如果需要的话,”他认为:“至少10般在建。”

“有人希望它会最终使关于中国海军力量发展方向和长久战略的争论结束。”他又说。

很明显可以看出,中国相信他们已经找到的他们的标准水面作战力量。

新型驱逐舰将会成为北京的新型蓝水海军的中心力量。

“升级了的武器。”另一位中国海军事务观察员Feng Cao。他的博第一个提醒西方新战舰防卫圈设计。

他已经认真研究了很多年中国出版物和在国际贸易中的表现,试图理出中国海上力量的发展方案。

他并不砍052D本身是一型新战舰。但他解释说它是向中国海军多年的目标前进的重要一步,一种体型介于美国海军阿利·伯克和提康德罗加之间的强有力的防空导弹驱逐舰。

“几年内我们会看到一型全新的使用了新型推进系统的中国战舰。”他说。

“从052C到052D,船体本身真的没有什么变化,然而其上的武器系统去掉了一些,又换上了新的,也减小了一点船的雷达反射信号。推进系统完全没有变化。”

“真正变化的是武器系统,”他说:“最先看到的就是新的、更大的平板多功能雷达和新垂直发射系统。”

“它们不再是我们看到在052C上用的那种,而更象是那种可以使用多种导弹来同时攻击海上、空中和岸上目标的VLS。”

在他看来052D是他们向想要得到的水面作战舰艇的一块垫脚石。052D使用一种已经验证的船体和推进系统来检验其武器系统。

“当新型战舰到来时,”他说:“他们将会少一些担心,因为很多武器系统已经在052D上发挥过效用了。”

James Holmes指出了这些新战舰将会带的重大变化。美国对应的舰船装备的是宙斯盾雷达和战场管理系统。

他相信如果这是一型可与宙斯盾匹敌的战舰并且会建造10艘,将会给予中国海军在与任何本地区海军的对抗中以防空能力。比亚洲任何海军都要多的舰船。

“日本和韩国有宙斯盾战舰,但只有六艘和三艘。”他说。

美国的位置
Holmes教授说新的中国军舰在美国海军中对应的位置大概是阿里·伯克级驱逐舰,它们的第一艘盾舰。

然而他指出新的中国驱逐舰只拾三分之二的导弹,所以美国的军舰在一对一冲突中有优势。(这观点太二逼了,防空舰互砍?)

他也说,在缺少任何坚实信息的条件下,052D能否和美国的盾舰相匹敌还未可知,我不鼓励任务人根据我的分析制定策略。

James Holmes指出在评估中国新型战舰带来的影响里建造数量也要考虑进去。052D性能可能要低于在美国海军中对应的盾舰,但它不会单独执行任务。

不要忘记中国几乎只在岸舰导弹航程内、陆基飞机航程内和有潜艇的范围内使用舰队(他还说了个ships like patrol craft,油轮?)。

这些对水面舰队的保护,北京相信,我也同意,将会是巨大的失衡力量。

如果你能在岸上达成目标,为什么要花费人力财力建造美国海军的镜象?简单说,中国不需要象美国那样的舰队to fight on ground of its own choosing, namely the China seas and Western Pacific(看不懂)。

翻完了发现这贴没有看?这些人的理论到也很常规,都是论坛里常见的分析。