超级军网澳大利亚禁华为投标宽带项目 担心中国网络攻击
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人民网堪培拉3月24日电（记者 李景卫）据《澳大利亚金融评论报》和天空卫视澳大利亚新闻台报道，澳大利亚政府以担心来自中国的网络攻击为由，禁止华为技术有限公司对数十亿澳元的全国宽带网设备项目进行投标。报道认为，禁止华为投标一事将成为澳大利亚与其最大的贸易伙伴双边关系的重要考验。
根据报道，澳方禁止华为投标的理由很牵强，主要是华为的总裁任正非曾是中国人民解放军的军人，并且他从不接受媒体采访。澳方同时认为华为与中国政府有关联。
华为正在通过各种渠道公开据理力争。但澳大利亚司法部长尼可拉?罗克松对这一决定持强硬立场。报道援引澳大利亚政府一位女发言人的话说：“作为一项战略和政府的重要投资，我们有责任尽最大努力保护（全国宽带网的）完好性及其运载的信息。这与澳大利亚政府广泛保障重要基础设施安全及其顺应能力是完全一致的。”
报道说，司法部副秘书托尼-西汉去年底就召见华为澳大利亚公司董事长、退休海军少将约翰?洛德，通知他不要在寻求投标宽带网供货项目上自扰，因为他们即使投标也不会成功。澳大利亚官方甚至提醒华为堪培拉了解中国的网络攻击http://news.qq.com/a/20120324/000600.htm人民网堪培拉3月24日电（记者 李景卫）据《澳大利亚金融评论报》和天空卫视澳大利亚新闻台报道，澳大利亚政府以担心来自中国的网络攻击为由，禁止华为技术有限公司对数十亿澳元的全国宽带网设备项目进行投标。报道认为，禁止华为投标一事将成为澳大利亚与其最大的贸易伙伴双边关系的重要考验。
根据报道，澳方禁止华为投标的理由很牵强，主要是华为的总裁任正非曾是中国人民解放军的军人，并且他从不接受媒体采访。澳方同时认为华为与中国政府有关联。
华为正在通过各种渠道公开据理力争。但澳大利亚司法部长尼可拉?罗克松对这一决定持强硬立场。报道援引澳大利亚政府一位女发言人的话说：“作为一项战略和政府的重要投资，我们有责任尽最大努力保护（全国宽带网的）完好性及其运载的信息。这与澳大利亚政府广泛保障重要基础设施安全及其顺应能力是完全一致的。”
报道说，司法部副秘书托尼-西汉去年底就召见华为澳大利亚公司董事长、退休海军少将约翰?洛德，通知他不要在寻求投标宽带网供货项目上自扰，因为他们即使投标也不会成功。澳大利亚官方甚至提醒华为堪培拉了解中国的网络攻击http://news.qq.com/a/20120324/000600.htm
根据报道，澳方禁止华为投标的理由很牵强，主要是华为的总裁任正非曾是中国人民解放军的军人，并且他从不接受媒体采访。澳方同时认为华为与中国政府有关联。
华为正在通过各种渠道公开据理力争。但澳大利亚司法部长尼可拉?罗克松对这一决定持强硬立场。报道援引澳大利亚政府一位女发言人的话说：“作为一项战略和政府的重要投资，我们有责任尽最大努力保护（全国宽带网的）完好性及其运载的信息。这与澳大利亚政府广泛保障重要基础设施安全及其顺应能力是完全一致的。”
报道说，司法部副秘书托尼-西汉去年底就召见华为澳大利亚公司董事长、退休海军少将约翰?洛德，通知他不要在寻求投标宽带网供货项目上自扰，因为他们即使投标也不会成功。澳大利亚官方甚至提醒华为堪培拉了解中国的网络攻击http://news.qq.com/a/20120324/000600.htm人民网堪培拉3月24日电（记者 李景卫）据《澳大利亚金融评论报》和天空卫视澳大利亚新闻台报道，澳大利亚政府以担心来自中国的网络攻击为由，禁止华为技术有限公司对数十亿澳元的全国宽带网设备项目进行投标。报道认为，禁止华为投标一事将成为澳大利亚与其最大的贸易伙伴双边关系的重要考验。
根据报道，澳方禁止华为投标的理由很牵强，主要是华为的总裁任正非曾是中国人民解放军的军人，并且他从不接受媒体采访。澳方同时认为华为与中国政府有关联。
华为正在通过各种渠道公开据理力争。但澳大利亚司法部长尼可拉?罗克松对这一决定持强硬立场。报道援引澳大利亚政府一位女发言人的话说：“作为一项战略和政府的重要投资，我们有责任尽最大努力保护（全国宽带网的）完好性及其运载的信息。这与澳大利亚政府广泛保障重要基础设施安全及其顺应能力是完全一致的。”
报道说，司法部副秘书托尼-西汉去年底就召见华为澳大利亚公司董事长、退休海军少将约翰?洛德，通知他不要在寻求投标宽带网供货项目上自扰，因为他们即使投标也不会成功。澳大利亚官方甚至提醒华为堪培拉了解中国的网络攻击http://news.qq.com/a/20120324/000600.htm
呵呵，这个世界不存在真正自由的平等竞争。想找理由都不用动大脑。
China’s Huawei banned from NBN
The federal government has banned Chinese technology giant Huawei from participating in multibillion- dollar tenders to supply equipment to the national broadband network because of concerns over cyber attacks originating in China.
But Huawei is fighting the ban vigorously in public and by using diplomatic channels. It plans to announce its sponsorship of the Canberra Raiders rugby league football team in a bid to lift its profile in the national capital.
Huawei sources have also hinted that the Chinese government will retaliate strongly against Australia if the ban on the company’s tenders is not lifted.
The moves come despite numerous efforts by Huawei to soften its image. The company has been accused of having links to the Chinese government. Its chief executive, Ren Zhengfei, was a member of the People’s Liberation Army and he has never agreed to a media interview. The issue is now emerging as a major test of relations with Australia’s biggest trading partner.
But the government remains unrepentant with Attorney-General Nicola Roxon standing firm on the decision.
“As a strategic and significant government investment, we have a responsibility to do our utmost to protect [the NBN’s] integrity and that of the information carried on it,” a spokeswoman said.
“This is consistent with the government’s practice for ensuring the security and resilience of Australia’s critical infrastructure more broadly.”
It is understood that the deputy secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department, Tony Sheehan, called in Huawei Australia’s chairman, retired Rear Admiral John Lord, late last year to tell him of the bans.
Sheehan reportedly told Lord not to bother tendering for any NBN supply contracts because they would not succeed. Australian officials are also understood to have advised Huawei that Canberra was aware of Chinese cyber attacks.
The ban on Huawei tenders was imposed despite the firm’s high-profile participation in national broadband networks being installed in eight other countries, including the United Kingdom and New Zealand. Its technology is also the basis of Vodaone Australia’s $1 billion network fix and upgrade and it recently won key contracts with Optus. Telstra does not use much of its equipment.
Huawei Australia has made a submission to the Australia in the Asian Century white paper being prepared by former Treasury secretary Ken Henry, stressing its commitment to Australia. It warns that Australia’s relationship with China has to be “an equal partnership – a two-way street”. He added policy settings based on historical bias or outdated perceptions will see Australia miss out on important economic benefits.
But Huawei continues to face difficulties in several markets such as the United States, where intelligence services are concerned about network breaches and espionage. Its director of corporate and public affairs, Jeremy Mitchell, denied the Chinese government had the ability to force it to provide sensitive information about the NBN.
“Huawei’s participation in the NBN is a matter for the government,” he said. “But we have outstanding credentials in this area and believe we would have a positive contribution to the NBN if chosen.”
Ovum research director David Kennedy said all of NBN Co’s equipment came from Europe or North America despite China offering good quality products at lower prices.
“There would be technical specifications they would be given to provide the correct equipment and it would certainly give insights to the structure of the NBN,” Mr Kennedy said.
Security expert and HackLabs director Chris Gatford said such insights could be used “to tell you where the critical devices sit, it would give you insight to the connection points and help you make an attack far more effective”.
The potential sponsorship with the Raiders, who have been searching for a major sponsor since the team’s deal with licenced club The Tradies expired last year, is the second attempt to back a Canberra sporting team for Huawei. In late December, a four-year $4 million deal to sponsor rugby union side the ACT Brumbies fell apart at the last moment reportedly because the company had then been told it would not be allocated any part of the NBN. The Brumbies deal had reportedly been signed off by Huawei’s board and jersey designs incorporating its logo had been approved.
It has since switched its attention to the Raiders.
Alastair MacGibbon, formerly the Australian Federal Police’s top cyber agent and now managing partner of Surete Group, said he supported the ban if made on security grounds.
“The difference between a US-based Cisco or a Chinese-based Huawei is where they are domiciled,” he said. “I doubt either make back doors in their products because they would have too much to lose ... but they would more than likely help their governments if called in to do so.
“You need to ask yourself [between the US and China] which government has been more loyal to us over time and which would support us in a time of Australian need.”
The Australian Financial Review
http://www.afr.com/p/technology/ ... zi1oc3FXBF3BZdRD9mJ
The federal government has banned Chinese technology giant Huawei from participating in multibillion- dollar tenders to supply equipment to the national broadband network because of concerns over cyber attacks originating in China.
But Huawei is fighting the ban vigorously in public and by using diplomatic channels. It plans to announce its sponsorship of the Canberra Raiders rugby league football team in a bid to lift its profile in the national capital.
Huawei sources have also hinted that the Chinese government will retaliate strongly against Australia if the ban on the company’s tenders is not lifted.
The moves come despite numerous efforts by Huawei to soften its image. The company has been accused of having links to the Chinese government. Its chief executive, Ren Zhengfei, was a member of the People’s Liberation Army and he has never agreed to a media interview. The issue is now emerging as a major test of relations with Australia’s biggest trading partner.
But the government remains unrepentant with Attorney-General Nicola Roxon standing firm on the decision.
“As a strategic and significant government investment, we have a responsibility to do our utmost to protect [the NBN’s] integrity and that of the information carried on it,” a spokeswoman said.
“This is consistent with the government’s practice for ensuring the security and resilience of Australia’s critical infrastructure more broadly.”
It is understood that the deputy secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department, Tony Sheehan, called in Huawei Australia’s chairman, retired Rear Admiral John Lord, late last year to tell him of the bans.
Sheehan reportedly told Lord not to bother tendering for any NBN supply contracts because they would not succeed. Australian officials are also understood to have advised Huawei that Canberra was aware of Chinese cyber attacks.
The ban on Huawei tenders was imposed despite the firm’s high-profile participation in national broadband networks being installed in eight other countries, including the United Kingdom and New Zealand. Its technology is also the basis of Vodaone Australia’s $1 billion network fix and upgrade and it recently won key contracts with Optus. Telstra does not use much of its equipment.
Huawei Australia has made a submission to the Australia in the Asian Century white paper being prepared by former Treasury secretary Ken Henry, stressing its commitment to Australia. It warns that Australia’s relationship with China has to be “an equal partnership – a two-way street”. He added policy settings based on historical bias or outdated perceptions will see Australia miss out on important economic benefits.
But Huawei continues to face difficulties in several markets such as the United States, where intelligence services are concerned about network breaches and espionage. Its director of corporate and public affairs, Jeremy Mitchell, denied the Chinese government had the ability to force it to provide sensitive information about the NBN.
“Huawei’s participation in the NBN is a matter for the government,” he said. “But we have outstanding credentials in this area and believe we would have a positive contribution to the NBN if chosen.”
Ovum research director David Kennedy said all of NBN Co’s equipment came from Europe or North America despite China offering good quality products at lower prices.
“There would be technical specifications they would be given to provide the correct equipment and it would certainly give insights to the structure of the NBN,” Mr Kennedy said.
Security expert and HackLabs director Chris Gatford said such insights could be used “to tell you where the critical devices sit, it would give you insight to the connection points and help you make an attack far more effective”.
The potential sponsorship with the Raiders, who have been searching for a major sponsor since the team’s deal with licenced club The Tradies expired last year, is the second attempt to back a Canberra sporting team for Huawei. In late December, a four-year $4 million deal to sponsor rugby union side the ACT Brumbies fell apart at the last moment reportedly because the company had then been told it would not be allocated any part of the NBN. The Brumbies deal had reportedly been signed off by Huawei’s board and jersey designs incorporating its logo had been approved.
It has since switched its attention to the Raiders.
Alastair MacGibbon, formerly the Australian Federal Police’s top cyber agent and now managing partner of Surete Group, said he supported the ban if made on security grounds.
“The difference between a US-based Cisco or a Chinese-based Huawei is where they are domiciled,” he said. “I doubt either make back doors in their products because they would have too much to lose ... but they would more than likely help their governments if called in to do so.
“You need to ask yourself [between the US and China] which government has been more loyal to us over time and which would support us in a time of Australian need.”
The Australian Financial Review
http://www.afr.com/p/technology/ ... zi1oc3FXBF3BZdRD9mJ
所以我说了，现在中国政府必须改变以前对那种大型跨国企业采取的鼓励政策，相反应该压制他们，这些外国大型企业在技术和规模上的领先对国内企业发展形成了绝对的障碍，加上国外对中国新兴的高科技企业进行干扰，已经对中国经济产生了相当不利的影响。一味鼓励外资进入只会造成经济数据上的好看，但国内的产业反而退步的结局
再发展下去我们是不是要学“大英帝国对大清”的那种做法吗
谁有空去攻击那个盛产袋鼠和基佬的地方。真是吃饱撑着求调~教~了~
能够在路由器自由抓包然后过滤出关键信息并且提取，最后神不知鬼不觉传输，这个是足以拿图灵奖了吧？真是欲加之罪何患无辞华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-24 18:18 
能够在路由器自由抓包然后过滤出关键信息并且提取，最后神不知鬼不觉传输，这个是足以拿图灵奖了吧？ ...
MD的某些路由器和交换机产品有后门用户
。。。
能够在路由器自由抓包然后过滤出关键信息并且提取，最后神不知鬼不觉传输，这个是足以拿图灵奖了吧？ ...
MD的某些路由器和交换机产品有后门用户
。。。 天天上班 发表于 2012-3-24 18:34
MD的某些路由器和交换机产品有后门用户。。。
但是这个很容易从其他更低的层检测出来
MD的某些路由器和交换机产品有后门用户。。。
但是这个很容易从其他更低的层检测出来是不是该出动炮舰去保卫自由贸易了？
并且他从不接受媒体采访
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这算什么理由？
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这算什么理由？
华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-24 18:54
但是这个很容易从其他更低的层检测出来
就是，所以现在政府部门的网络基本不允许用国外品牌了。。。
但是这个很容易从其他更低的层检测出来
就是，所以现在政府部门的网络基本不允许用国外品牌了。。。
对于这种莫须有的罪名，谁都没有办法，岳飞也没有办法。
原来国外也有许多迫害妄想狂
阶级斗争意识时刻不放松啊
阶级斗争意识时刻不放松啊
再发展下去我们是不是要学“大英帝国对大清”的那种做法吗
路由器战争，二路战争？
路由器战争，二路战争？
lvtom 发表于 2012-3-24 20:38
路由器战争，二路战争？
俺们不是为路由器而战,俺们是为自由贸易的原则 开战
路由器战争，二路战争？
俺们不是为路由器而战,俺们是为自由贸易的原则 开战
维多利亚女皇宣布，我们为自由贸易的原则 开战，不是为鸦片而战。
澳大利亚什么时候才能民主呢？
澳洲值得学习
Oishi 发表于 2012-3-24 21:17
俺们不是为路由器而战,俺们是为自由贸易的原则 开战
不要以为我们看不出来
俺们不是为路由器而战,俺们是为自由贸易的原则 开战
不要以为我们看不出来
天天上班 发表于 2012-3-24 20:09
就是，所以现在政府部门的网络基本不允许用国外品牌了。。。
苹果产品有不少都是公款消费了吧。
就是，所以现在政府部门的网络基本不允许用国外品牌了。。。
苹果产品有不少都是公款消费了吧。
茄子暴宝 发表于 2012-3-24 16:14
所以我说了，现在中国政府必须改变以前对那种大型跨国企业采取的鼓励政策，相反应该压制他们，这些外国大型 ...
买办阶级早就已经无人可挡了......
所以我说了，现在中国政府必须改变以前对那种大型跨国企业采取的鼓励政策，相反应该压制他们，这些外国大型 ...
买办阶级早就已经无人可挡了......
卑劣的贸易保护主义
打倒买办阶级！
华为又中枪了，任总赶紧把儿子扶正吧
天天上班 发表于 2012-3-24 20:09
就是，所以现在政府部门的网络基本不允许用国外品牌了。。。
但是要是类似当年P3的那种后门，全球都是无解的
就是，所以现在政府部门的网络基本不允许用国外品牌了。。。
但是要是类似当年P3的那种后门，全球都是无解的华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-25 17:37
但是要是类似当年P3的那种后门，全球都是无解的
所以不用是最干脆的办法。。。
但是要是类似当年P3的那种后门，全球都是无解的
所以不用是最干脆的办法。。。
wcgsjo 发表于 2012-3-24 21:38
苹果产品有不少都是公款消费了吧。
网络产品，交换机、路由器之类的不用国外品牌。。。
苹果产品有不少都是公款消费了吧。
网络产品，交换机、路由器之类的不用国外品牌。。。
因为华为老总曾经是PLA丢了多少生意了，可以先试着换下领导，最起码退居幕后吧。不过，以后估计那帮鸟国家又要说“华为创始人是PLA了”
天天上班 发表于 2012-3-25 18:51
网络产品，交换机、路由器之类的不用国外品牌。。。
我们的官员胳膊肘都是向"外"的?
不对有时候也向"里“。
比如去查一查历年来。国际巨头们在地区高层的负责人名单。
网络产品，交换机、路由器之类的不用国外品牌。。。
我们的官员胳膊肘都是向"外"的?
不对有时候也向"里“。
比如去查一查历年来。国际巨头们在地区高层的负责人名单。
天天上班 发表于 2012-3-25 18:47
所以不用是最干脆的办法。。。
希望龙芯早日投产吧
所以不用是最干脆的办法。。。
希望龙芯早日投产吧华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-25 19:23
希望龙芯早日投产吧
军队在用了，民用要慢慢推广。。
希望龙芯早日投产吧
军队在用了，民用要慢慢推广。。
天天上班 发表于 2012-3-26 13:59
军队在用了，民用要慢慢推广。。
民用的我估计5年，保守估计了，都打不赢了，先把嵌入式的吃下手吧
军队在用了，民用要慢慢推广。。
民用的我估计5年，保守估计了，都打不赢了，先把嵌入式的吃下手吧wcgsjo 发表于 2012-3-24 21:38
苹果产品有不少都是公款消费了吧。
你的通信知识仅限于手机，学习一下再来喷
苹果产品有不少都是公款消费了吧。
你的通信知识仅限于手机，学习一下再来喷
华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-27 03:06
民用的我估计5年，保守估计了，都打不赢了，先把嵌入式的吃下手吧
今天乃又要失眠了？
民用的我估计5年，保守估计了，都打不赢了，先把嵌入式的吃下手吧
今天乃又要失眠了？
华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-27 03:06
民用的我估计5年，保守估计了，都打不赢了，先把嵌入式的吃下手吧
吃一口算一口。。。
民用的我估计5年，保守估计了，都打不赢了，先把嵌入式的吃下手吧
吃一口算一口。。。
marsrabit 发表于 2012-3-27 09:20
你的通信知识仅限于手机，学习一下再来喷
比如去查一查历年来。国际巨头们在地区高层的负责人名单。
怕我说出了内幕？
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比如去查一查历年来。国际巨头们在地区高层的负责人名单。
怕我说出了内幕？
天天上班 发表于 2012-3-27 10:35
今天乃又要失眠了？
每天都睡眠不好的哦
今天乃又要失眠了？
每天都睡眠不好的哦天天上班 发表于 2012-3-27 10:35
吃一口算一口。。。
跟着棒子后面吃鬼子的市场
吃一口算一口。。。
跟着棒子后面吃鬼子的市场中国人开放自己，外国人围堵我们，国人要清醒，中国这样的大国给人当奴才别人怕你是卧薪常胆。只有死的中国才是好中国
华夏冉闵 发表于 2012-3-27 19:48
跟着棒子后面吃鬼子的市场
这个确实可以，有了开头，希望后面能走好的说。。
跟着棒子后面吃鬼子的市场
这个确实可以，有了开头，希望后面能走好的说。。