传MMRCA竞标结果揭晓,合同金额料翻倍,126架超200亿花 ...

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传印度国防部将126架战斗机的招标价格从100亿美元提高到了200亿美元
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【英國《金融時報》網站1 1月4日報道】政府官員稱,印度通過招標向兩家歐洲企業購買126架戰斗機的合約,價值可能高達200多億美元,這個金額比最初的估計數字增加將近一倍。

  國防部周五啟封了歐洲“台風”戰斗機制造聯合體和法國“陣風”戰斗機生產商達索公司的標書后,對最初的估計金額110億美元進行了修正。國防部表示,確定報價最低企業的過程最長可能需要8周時間,之后投標文件將送至財政部審批。政府將選出一家勝出的投標企業,然后再開始與之進行談判,以確定最終價格。

  一名國防部官員說:“在確定報價最低的企業時將研究各種參數,最重要的是維修成本,這是在總價格之外追加的單項標准。”印度空軍的飛機更新計劃在4年前開始招標時的估計費用為110億美元。這位官員表示,合約金額在原先估計的110億美元基礎上進行了調整,因為該數字是根據2007年的價格得出的,需要修正,以反映當前價格。

(來源:新華國際)

An Indian contract to buy 126 fighter jets from one of two European bidders could be worth $20bn, almost double the original estimate, according to the government.

The defence ministry revised up its initial $11bn estimate after reviewing bids from the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium and France’s Dassault, the maker of the Rafale aircraft, a ministry official told the Financial Times.

While the government has already received the bid details from the companies, it was expected to officially open the sealed envelopes with the full offers on Friday.

After reviewing the competing offers, the government will choose a lead bidder with whom it will then start negotiating a final price.

When the tender to modernise India’s air force, one of the biggest military aviation orders by a single country, was launched more than four years ago, it was estimated at $11bn.

In April, India shortlisted Eurofighter and Rafale after eliminating Boeing’s F/A-18, Lockheed Martin’s F-16, Russia’s MiG-35 and Swedish Saab’s Gripen.

The decision to choose one of the European aircraft has not prevented the US from making a last-ditch effort to sell advanced fighters to India. The Pentagon this week told the US Congress that it was prepared to provide information to India about the F-35 Lightning II, a fifth-generation fighter aircraft produced by Lockheed Martin.

European defence companies have expressed concern that the US might try to short-circuit the bidding process with a new, more attractive offer outside of the terms of the competition.

But Indian defence analysts say that the process to choose the multi-role combat aircraft is too far advanced for a U-turn. A sudden departure from the process would dent credibility, they say, at a time when the conduct of India’s bureaucracy is under greater public scrutiny after a number of high profile corruption scandals.

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获胜者是











。恭喜欧洲航空防务及航天公司(EADS)公司和戴姆勒·奔驰公司!

EADS同时拥有欧洲战斗机公司和达索公司各46%的股权。无论结果如何,已经有近100亿的合同到手。
德国戴姆勒公司拥有EADS公司22%的股权,无论结果如何,已有44亿的合同到手。


同一家母公司的两个子公司出价进行竞标,可想而知会在价格上达成相当的默契,恐怕会比波音和洛马间还要和谐。
(三哥:这是无稽之谈,竞标是公开、严谨和严肃的)



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欧洲战斗机公司股权结构
    46%: EADS
        ·33% EADS 德国分公司
        ·13% EADS 西班牙航空公司
    33%: 英国宇航公司
    21%: 意大利航空公司

达索飞机公司股权结构
    达索集团 (50.21%)
    EADS (46.22%)
    公众投资者 (3.57%)

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EADS公司股权结构
        法国金融机构以及法国国家控股公司SOGEADE (22.46%)
        戴姆勒·奔驰公司 (22.46%, 德国戴姆勒公司直接持有15%的股份,另外还替德国政府和银行掌握着7.46%)
        西班牙国家控股公司SEPI (5.48%)
        其他:公众投资者


争夺主要存在于法国和英国之间。



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最终采用何种机型,大约七七四十九天后确定。

印度MMRCA案戰機案已於2011年11月4日決標,不過印度國防部表示還需要6至8週的時間,來計算歐洲雙風廠商所提供條件下的戰機全壽命週期成本高下,才能決定最後勝出者。

而且由於兩者的價碼相近(Rafale的離陸成本比Typhoon低不到5%),所以本案最後也可能由政治因素來決定一切。

http://www.indianexpress.com/new ... itical-call/871143/

The ministry will also need to verify and cross-check the costs proposed by the companies against its own benchmark for the deal to procure 126 new fighters.

While the French Rafale came out to be slightly cheaper than the European Consortium’s Eurofighter in terms of ‘fly away cost’ per unit, as expected, the difference was less than 5 per cent. This throws the competition open.

While till now the multi-billion contract strictly followed the technical procedure — four contenders including the American F-16 and F-18 were knocked out as they failed the flying trials — the narrow difference between the fly away costs will give Indian decision-makers the leeway to make a political decision on the purchase.

“We do not know the winner right now. Many things like the life cycle costs have to be calculated. It is expected that the exercise will finish in six-eight weeks,” a Defence Ministry official said.


传印度国防部将126架战斗机的招标价格从100亿美元提高到了200亿美元
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/8 ... e-00144feabdc0.html

http://citiccard.world.people.com.cn/BIG5/157278/16148714.html
【英國《金融時報》網站1 1月4日報道】政府官員稱,印度通過招標向兩家歐洲企業購買126架戰斗機的合約,價值可能高達200多億美元,這個金額比最初的估計數字增加將近一倍。

  國防部周五啟封了歐洲“台風”戰斗機制造聯合體和法國“陣風”戰斗機生產商達索公司的標書后,對最初的估計金額110億美元進行了修正。國防部表示,確定報價最低企業的過程最長可能需要8周時間,之后投標文件將送至財政部審批。政府將選出一家勝出的投標企業,然后再開始與之進行談判,以確定最終價格。

  一名國防部官員說:“在確定報價最低的企業時將研究各種參數,最重要的是維修成本,這是在總價格之外追加的單項標准。”印度空軍的飛機更新計劃在4年前開始招標時的估計費用為110億美元。這位官員表示,合約金額在原先估計的110億美元基礎上進行了調整,因為該數字是根據2007年的價格得出的,需要修正,以反映當前價格。

(來源:新華國際)

An Indian contract to buy 126 fighter jets from one of two European bidders could be worth $20bn, almost double the original estimate, according to the government.

The defence ministry revised up its initial $11bn estimate after reviewing bids from the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium and France’s Dassault, the maker of the Rafale aircraft, a ministry official told the Financial Times.

While the government has already received the bid details from the companies, it was expected to officially open the sealed envelopes with the full offers on Friday.

After reviewing the competing offers, the government will choose a lead bidder with whom it will then start negotiating a final price.

When the tender to modernise India’s air force, one of the biggest military aviation orders by a single country, was launched more than four years ago, it was estimated at $11bn.

In April, India shortlisted Eurofighter and Rafale after eliminating Boeing’s F/A-18, Lockheed Martin’s F-16, Russia’s MiG-35 and Swedish Saab’s Gripen.

The decision to choose one of the European aircraft has not prevented the US from making a last-ditch effort to sell advanced fighters to India. The Pentagon this week told the US Congress that it was prepared to provide information to India about the F-35 Lightning II, a fifth-generation fighter aircraft produced by Lockheed Martin.

European defence companies have expressed concern that the US might try to short-circuit the bidding process with a new, more attractive offer outside of the terms of the competition.

But Indian defence analysts say that the process to choose the multi-role combat aircraft is too far advanced for a U-turn. A sudden departure from the process would dent credibility, they say, at a time when the conduct of India’s bureaucracy is under greater public scrutiny after a number of high profile corruption scandals.

============================================
获胜者是











。恭喜欧洲航空防务及航天公司(EADS)公司和戴姆勒·奔驰公司!

EADS同时拥有欧洲战斗机公司和达索公司各46%的股权。无论结果如何,已经有近100亿的合同到手。
德国戴姆勒公司拥有EADS公司22%的股权,无论结果如何,已有44亿的合同到手。


同一家母公司的两个子公司出价进行竞标,可想而知会在价格上达成相当的默契,恐怕会比波音和洛马间还要和谐。
(三哥:这是无稽之谈,竞标是公开、严谨和严肃的)



=============================================

欧洲战斗机公司股权结构
    46%: EADS
        ·33% EADS 德国分公司
        ·13% EADS 西班牙航空公司
    33%: 英国宇航公司
    21%: 意大利航空公司

达索飞机公司股权结构
    达索集团 (50.21%)
    EADS (46.22%)
    公众投资者 (3.57%)

=============================================
EADS公司股权结构
        法国金融机构以及法国国家控股公司SOGEADE (22.46%)
        戴姆勒·奔驰公司 (22.46%, 德国戴姆勒公司直接持有15%的股份,另外还替德国政府和银行掌握着7.46%)
        西班牙国家控股公司SEPI (5.48%)
        其他:公众投资者


争夺主要存在于法国和英国之间。



##############################################
最终采用何种机型,大约七七四十九天后确定。

印度MMRCA案戰機案已於2011年11月4日決標,不過印度國防部表示還需要6至8週的時間,來計算歐洲雙風廠商所提供條件下的戰機全壽命週期成本高下,才能決定最後勝出者。

而且由於兩者的價碼相近(Rafale的離陸成本比Typhoon低不到5%),所以本案最後也可能由政治因素來決定一切。

http://www.indianexpress.com/new ... itical-call/871143/

The ministry will also need to verify and cross-check the costs proposed by the companies against its own benchmark for the deal to procure 126 new fighters.

While the French Rafale came out to be slightly cheaper than the European Consortium’s Eurofighter in terms of ‘fly away cost’ per unit, as expected, the difference was less than 5 per cent. This throws the competition open.

While till now the multi-billion contract strictly followed the technical procedure — four contenders including the American F-16 and F-18 were knocked out as they failed the flying trials — the narrow difference between the fly away costs will give Indian decision-makers the leeway to make a political decision on the purchase.

“We do not know the winner right now. Many things like the life cycle costs have to be calculated. It is expected that the exercise will finish in six-eight weeks,” a Defence Ministry official said.
的确有意思!
三国荟萃,欧美俄!
三哥被敲得棒是棒的
单价1.6亿美刀?这是想开门放F35进场?
嗷 为什么觉得不够戏剧...
。。。。。。。。
LZ不厚道,我还以为台风中了了
既然用了28年的老幻影整个容都能要5KW,新品翻2翻也不算过分
意思是双风一齐上,人人有份,永不落空?三哥地勤发来贺电~~~!
真的假的》!
三哥还真是人傻钱多。
庆幸不是F-35
欧洲果然和谐,双保险在手,阿三还不束手就擒。
怎么都是讽刺回帖,cd都是这样么?
应该看到,印度选择欧洲而不是美帝战机不论对我们还是他们自己都是有好处的。印度人目前或许还没有和他们野心相匹配的实力,但至少有这样的野心,并有在可见未来相匹配的实力
阿三 胃口 大大大~~~
还没有结果,先看看最后如何,前几年是试验各种机型,今天只是两风正式报价。最后结果应该在11月中旬出来。
看印度一资深军迷自己的博客里说,似乎没达索什么事了,铁定台风入选。
阵风能破除么?能么?能。。。么
最终结果出来时我也不会感到意外
这价格显然包括知识产权的交易。大部分也将在印度本地生产。

如果是F-35生产线的话,恐怕$3亿一架,美国也未必愿意卖。
唉。。。还以为阵风要开张了呢


我预计,台风胜利!这样符合印度一贯的传统。

我预计,台风胜利!这样符合印度一贯的传统。
到底是谁?还得继续等消息、、、、
这个得疯狂了。
三哥果然有钱啊,一出手就翻了一番啊
好戏开始了。
怎么都是讽刺回帖,cd都是这样么?  应该看到,印度选择欧洲而不是美帝战机不论对我们还是他们自己都是有好 ...
对于我们来说,阿三引F16 18 35的威胁远比双风大…单机性能已经不是空战的最重要因素了…
这出烂戏唱了多少年了???
Bearcat 发表于 2011-11-5 04:47
这价格显然包括知识产权的交易。大部分也将在印度本地生产。

如果是F-35生产线的话,恐怕$3亿一架, ...
上面说的才让人看清楚点,别动不动就瞎起哄。感觉印度的腐败也非常严重,不知道能不能赶上我们。
阿三是不是又挖到宝藏了
三国要是有精蝇不被骂死了才怪……
aroot 发表于 2011-11-5 09:18
上面说的才让人看清楚点,别动不动就瞎起哄。感觉印度的腐败也非常严重,不知道能不能赶上我们。
印度比中国腐败是公认的。
阵风前几天摔得太惨了~阿三为了改变自己一贯摔机的公众形象,99%还是要台风的


三哥真是有钱啊!腰缠万贯。

三哥真是有钱啊!腰缠万贯。
美国人不卖A3 F22真是失策,不多就业机会没了
我就纳闷印度的钱从哪里来的。印度常年都有贸易赤字,仅仅2011年第二季度的赤字就有141亿美元。而印度光外债就有3060亿美元,而外汇储备仅有3190亿美元,也就是说印度所有外汇储备加起来才刚刚够还其外债。再考虑到印度常年的贸易赤字,和商人到印度投资实业的热情普遍不高,其外汇储备里有多少是所谓的热钱呢?真有事的时候印度政府能够动用到多少储备呢?可能一下都撤离的七七八八了。

所以呢,印度对外军购时的豪爽着实让人费解。你要真有钱,请先把办英联邦运动会时拖欠外国承包商的款项付清了再说。
翻倍不如两种都买
的确有意思!
RGR101 发表于 2011-11-5 09:47
我就纳闷印度的钱从哪里来的。印度常年都有贸易赤字,仅仅2011年第二季度的赤字就有141亿美元。而印度光外债 ...
所以更应高调宣传未来超级大国的形象,扩张军备啊。
虽然印度十几亿人,侨汇还是有不少的,不过一旦外资流向出现变化。。。

意思是双风一齐上,人人有份,永不落空?三哥地勤发来贺电~~~!