超级军网印度MMRCA合同再一次推迟决标日期 转载路透社
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原文就懒得翻译了，标题自明，印度国防部长A.K. Antony说三月底财政年度结束前没结果
这尼玛的太牛了，一个采购能搞12年还没定下来买谁
12年我娃的小鸡鸡都从花生米长成小青龙了
reuters.com/article/2012/01/31/india-defence-idUSL4E8CV3XR20120131
No India jet fighter deal before end March
Jan 31 (Reuters) - India will not sign a multi-billion dollar contract to buy European fighter jets before the fiscal year ends in March, the defence minister said about a deal to revamp ageing weapons in line with the country's rising global clout.
However, India will "soon" announce the lowest bidder for the tender for 126 jets worth up to $15 billion, two government sources with knowledge of the deal told Reuters.
The Typhoon fighter made by four-nation consortium Eurofighter EADS is competing with Dassault's Rafale jet to win what is one of the largest weapons contracts currently under negotiation globally.
"Not this financial year," Defence Minister A.K. Antony told Reuters in reply to a question about when the deal that has been in the works since 2007 would be signed.
"It is a long process. The file has not come to my table," he said, adding that the finance ministry and cabinet would have to look at the agreement after he signs off.
Eurofighter EADS represents Germany and Spain, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica. Dassault is French.
One defence ministry source with knowledge of the negotiations said each Rafale was $4 million to $5 million cheaper and the plane was preferred by the Air Force.
"Unit-wise, the French plane is much cheaper than the Eurofighter. Moreover, the Indian Airforce, which is well-equipped with French fighters, is favouring the French fighter," said the source, who asked not be named.
The source added the defence ministry was considering further extending the tender to buy an additional 80 or so jets, saying bidders excluded from the current process might be permitted to take part. (Reporting by Manoj Kumar and Nigam Prusty; writing by Frank Jack Daniel; editing by Malini Menon)原文就懒得翻译了，标题自明，印度国防部长A.K. Antony说三月底财政年度结束前没结果
这尼玛的太牛了，一个采购能搞12年还没定下来买谁
12年我娃的小鸡鸡都从花生米长成小青龙了
reuters.com/article/2012/01/31/india-defence-idUSL4E8CV3XR20120131
No India jet fighter deal before end March
Jan 31 (Reuters) - India will not sign a multi-billion dollar contract to buy European fighter jets before the fiscal year ends in March, the defence minister said about a deal to revamp ageing weapons in line with the country's rising global clout.
However, India will "soon" announce the lowest bidder for the tender for 126 jets worth up to $15 billion, two government sources with knowledge of the deal told Reuters.
The Typhoon fighter made by four-nation consortium Eurofighter EADS is competing with Dassault's Rafale jet to win what is one of the largest weapons contracts currently under negotiation globally.
"Not this financial year," Defence Minister A.K. Antony told Reuters in reply to a question about when the deal that has been in the works since 2007 would be signed.
"It is a long process. The file has not come to my table," he said, adding that the finance ministry and cabinet would have to look at the agreement after he signs off.
Eurofighter EADS represents Germany and Spain, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica. Dassault is French.
One defence ministry source with knowledge of the negotiations said each Rafale was $4 million to $5 million cheaper and the plane was preferred by the Air Force.
"Unit-wise, the French plane is much cheaper than the Eurofighter. Moreover, the Indian Airforce, which is well-equipped with French fighters, is favouring the French fighter," said the source, who asked not be named.
The source added the defence ministry was considering further extending the tender to buy an additional 80 or so jets, saying bidders excluded from the current process might be permitted to take part. (Reporting by Manoj Kumar and Nigam Prusty; writing by Frank Jack Daniel; editing by Malini Menon)
这尼玛的太牛了，一个采购能搞12年还没定下来买谁
12年我娃的小鸡鸡都从花生米长成小青龙了
reuters.com/article/2012/01/31/india-defence-idUSL4E8CV3XR20120131
No India jet fighter deal before end March
Jan 31 (Reuters) - India will not sign a multi-billion dollar contract to buy European fighter jets before the fiscal year ends in March, the defence minister said about a deal to revamp ageing weapons in line with the country's rising global clout.
However, India will "soon" announce the lowest bidder for the tender for 126 jets worth up to $15 billion, two government sources with knowledge of the deal told Reuters.
The Typhoon fighter made by four-nation consortium Eurofighter EADS is competing with Dassault's Rafale jet to win what is one of the largest weapons contracts currently under negotiation globally.
"Not this financial year," Defence Minister A.K. Antony told Reuters in reply to a question about when the deal that has been in the works since 2007 would be signed.
"It is a long process. The file has not come to my table," he said, adding that the finance ministry and cabinet would have to look at the agreement after he signs off.
Eurofighter EADS represents Germany and Spain, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica. Dassault is French.
One defence ministry source with knowledge of the negotiations said each Rafale was $4 million to $5 million cheaper and the plane was preferred by the Air Force.
"Unit-wise, the French plane is much cheaper than the Eurofighter. Moreover, the Indian Airforce, which is well-equipped with French fighters, is favouring the French fighter," said the source, who asked not be named.
The source added the defence ministry was considering further extending the tender to buy an additional 80 or so jets, saying bidders excluded from the current process might be permitted to take part. (Reporting by Manoj Kumar and Nigam Prusty; writing by Frank Jack Daniel; editing by Malini Menon)原文就懒得翻译了，标题自明，印度国防部长A.K. Antony说三月底财政年度结束前没结果
这尼玛的太牛了，一个采购能搞12年还没定下来买谁
12年我娃的小鸡鸡都从花生米长成小青龙了
reuters.com/article/2012/01/31/india-defence-idUSL4E8CV3XR20120131
No India jet fighter deal before end March
Jan 31 (Reuters) - India will not sign a multi-billion dollar contract to buy European fighter jets before the fiscal year ends in March, the defence minister said about a deal to revamp ageing weapons in line with the country's rising global clout.
However, India will "soon" announce the lowest bidder for the tender for 126 jets worth up to $15 billion, two government sources with knowledge of the deal told Reuters.
The Typhoon fighter made by four-nation consortium Eurofighter EADS is competing with Dassault's Rafale jet to win what is one of the largest weapons contracts currently under negotiation globally.
"Not this financial year," Defence Minister A.K. Antony told Reuters in reply to a question about when the deal that has been in the works since 2007 would be signed.
"It is a long process. The file has not come to my table," he said, adding that the finance ministry and cabinet would have to look at the agreement after he signs off.
Eurofighter EADS represents Germany and Spain, Britain's BAE Systems and Italy's Finmeccanica. Dassault is French.
One defence ministry source with knowledge of the negotiations said each Rafale was $4 million to $5 million cheaper and the plane was preferred by the Air Force.
"Unit-wise, the French plane is much cheaper than the Eurofighter. Moreover, the Indian Airforce, which is well-equipped with French fighters, is favouring the French fighter," said the source, who asked not be named.
The source added the defence ministry was considering further extending the tender to buy an additional 80 or so jets, saying bidders excluded from the current process might be permitted to take part. (Reporting by Manoj Kumar and Nigam Prusty; writing by Frank Jack Daniel; editing by Malini Menon)
为何要又要说一个又字。。。。。
饿，有点绕口
饿，有点绕口
看来印度空军还是嫌报价太低了。
三哥表示：我还有神油…………，再推迟也无鸭梨……
小青龙？无图无真相
钱包大小和空军的眼界胃口之间的博弈。
空军看上了“双风”的性能，却只能付出鹰狮或者Mig-35的价钱；
再拖一拖，后两者说不定也“升值”了。
其实，最适合印度的飞机可能是J-10B，价格和性能都合适。
钱包大小和空军的眼界胃口之间的博弈。
空军看上了“双风”的性能，却只能付出鹰狮或者Mig-35的价钱；
再拖一拖，后两者说不定也“升值”了。
其实，最适合印度的飞机可能是J-10B，价格和性能都合适。
也许印度是想让美元跌一跌
我说笑的
我说笑的
等涨价了再买
明显在等回扣
芒果树 发表于 2012-1-31 16:38 
也许印度是想让美元跌一跌
我说笑的
卢比最近一年都在跌...接近20%了吧？是因为这个？
也许印度是想让美元跌一跌
我说笑的
卢比最近一年都在跌...接近20%了吧？是因为这个？
芒果树 发表于 2012-1-31 16:38
也许印度是想让美元跌一跌
我说笑的
跌美元没用甚至有害（印度的软件外包业务恐怕多数来自美帝，美元结算）；
印度看上的是“双风”，希望欧元暴跌是真的。
也许印度是想让美元跌一跌
我说笑的
跌美元没用甚至有害（印度的软件外包业务恐怕多数来自美帝，美元结算）；
印度看上的是“双风”，希望欧元暴跌是真的。
绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-1-31 16:36
钱包大小和空军的眼界胃口之间的博弈。
空军看上了“双风”的性能，却只能付出鹰狮或者Mig-35的价钱；
非常同意你的观点
钱包大小和空军的眼界胃口之间的博弈。
空军看上了“双风”的性能，却只能付出鹰狮或者Mig-35的价钱；
非常同意你的观点
回扣太少，不满意啊
要是钱的问题还是去买米格吧
三哥的口味还是只有毛子能满足。。。
显然是回扣还没谈拢。
慢工出细活{:soso_e113:}
超大里的人都过了英语八级了？有翻译吗
类似的，英语能过八级的还来逛cd~~？？
印度国防部长在回答提问时说，这次采购计划还没有最后决定，将是一个漫长的过程。至少不在今年的财政预
里面说只有台风和阵风进入了最后的选型，但不排除之前没有入围的机型再次入围的可能。
目前为止空军比较青眯台风， 但法国人的飞机单机的价格要低4到6百万， 而且印度有维护法国飞机的经验。
里面说只有台风和阵风进入了最后的选型，但不排除之前没有入围的机型再次入围的可能。
目前为止空军比较青眯台风， 但法国人的飞机单机的价格要低4到6百万， 而且印度有维护法国飞机的经验。
楼主，给个译文看看，这样多费劲啊，哈哈
症结点在回扣啦，你懂的
aa 发表于 2012-1-31 19:28
印度国防部长在回答提问时说，这次采购计划还没有最后决定，将是一个漫长的过程。至少不在今年的财政预
...
法国的安慰款已经送上了，宗主国这边怎么解决？
去女王的生日趴体S难道想被护卫从游艇上丢下来吗
印度国防部长在回答提问时说，这次采购计划还没有最后决定，将是一个漫长的过程。至少不在今年的财政预
...
法国的安慰款已经送上了，宗主国这边怎么解决？
去女王的生日趴体S难道想被护卫从游艇上丢下来吗
我咋觉得三哥想等球电
www.lesechos.fr/entreprises-sect ... e-indien-282330.php
不是说阵风中标了么
不是说阵风中标了么
31/01 | 12:56 | Updated at 13:53 | Les Echos
Le Rafale de Dassault remporte l'appel d'offres indien
The Dassault Rafale wins the tender Indian
Dassault a proposé le meilleur prix et du coup, remporté l'appel d'offres portant sur l'achat de 126 avions de combat de génération actuelle lancé par New Dehli.
Dassault offered the best price and as a result, won the tender for the purchase of 126 combat aircraft generation launched by New Delhi.
En bourse In stock
Entre le Rafale de Dassault et de l'Eurofighter, du trio BAE-EADS-Finmeccanica New Dehli a finalement tranché ce mardi en faveur du français, selon des sources concordantes. Between the Rafale and the Eurofighter, BAE trio-EADS-Finmeccanica New Delhi on Tuesday finally decided in favor of the French, according to several sources. C'est la première fois que le chasseur français remporte un contrat à l'export.
This is the first time the French fighter wins for export. Le contrat qui porte sur 126 avions de combat de génération actuelle est estimé à une quinzaine de milliards de dollars (près de 10 milliards d'euros). The contract covers 126 combat aircraft generation is estimated at about fifteen billion dollars (10 billion euros).
La décision officielle ne devrait toutefois pas être annoncée avant la clôture de l'année fiscale indienne, fin mars. «Nous avons remporté le contrat mais un certain nombre de choses reste à finaliser» et «on est dans une phase de négociation exclusive»,
The official decision, however, should not be announced before the end of the Indian fiscal year end of March. "We won the contract but a number of things yet to be finalized" and "we are in a period of exclusive negotiations"
a par ailleurs temporisé le secrétaire d'Etat français au Commerce extérieur Pierre Lellouche sur la radio BFM.
has also delayed the French State Secretary for Foreign Trade Pierre Lellouche on BFM radio.
Mais d'ores et déjà, ce mardi, ce premier succès du Rafale faisait décoller le titre Dassault en Bourse.
But already, on Tuesday, the first success of the Rafale Dassault was the title off the stock market.
Peu après la nouvelle, l'action qui avait clôturé la veille à Paris à 612 euros, prenait plus de 20 %.
Shortly after the news, the action that had closed the previous day in Paris to 612 euros, took more than 20%.
Selon le ministère de la Défense Indienne, le Rafale serait de 4 à 5 millions de dollars moins cher que son rival européen.
According to the Indian Ministry of Defence, the Rafale would be 4 to 5 million dollars cheaper than its European rival.
Sur les 126 avions achetés, 18 émaneraient directement de l'usine bordelaise de Mérignac, les autres étant fabriqués en partenariat avec une entreprise indienne.
Of the 126 aircraft purchased, 18 came directly from the factory in Bordeaux Merignac, the others being produced in partnership with an Indian company.
A ce jour, un peu plus d'une centaine de Rafale sont sortis de la chaîne de Mérignac, tous destinés à l'Armée française qui en a commandé 286.
To date, just over a hundred Rafale came out of the chain of Merignac, all for the French Army who ordered 286.
Le ministère de la Défense indien avait ouvert les offres en public au Rafale et L'Eurofighter, le 4 novembre dernier.
The Indian Defense Ministry had opened the bids in public in the Rafale and Eurofighter, on November 4.
Les deux finalistes étaient arrivés en finale après une série de tests techniques très poussés qui ont laissé sur le carreau les américains F-16 (Lockheed Martin) et F-18 (Boeing), le suédois Gripen (Saab) et le russe Mig-35 (Mig).
The two finalists had reached the final after a series of tests very sophisticated techniques that have left on the floor of the U.S. F-16 (Lockheed Martin) and F-18 (Boeing), Swedish Gripen (Saab) and Russian Mig-35 (Mig).
( Relire : Avions de combat : épreuve de vérité pour le Rafale et l'Eurofighter en Inde
( Reread: Combat Aircraft: litmus test for the Rafale and the Eurofighter in India ) )
Le Rafale est également toujours en lice pour des appels d'offres aux Emirats Arabes Unis, au Qatar, au Koweït et au Brésil.
The Rafale is still in the running for tenders in the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and Brazil.
Le président de la République, Nicolas Sarkozy, qui s'était beaucoup investi sur 'le dossier Rafale', ne devrait pas manquer de se féliciter de ce premier succès à l'export lors de la traditionnelle cérémonie des voeux à la presse, prévue ce mardi en fin de journée.
The President of the Republic, Nicolas Sarkozy, who had invested heavily in 'folder Rafale', should not fail to welcome this first success in exports during the traditional ceremony of greeting to the press, provided that Tuesday late afternoon.
Plus d'infos à suivre....
More to follow .... 谷歌翻译，英文法文混杂，将就看吧 ..........
31/01 | 12:56 | Updated at 13:53 | Les Echos
Le Rafale de Dassault remporte l'appel d'offres indien
The Dassault Rafale wins the tender Indian
Dassault a proposé le meilleur prix et du coup, remporté l'appel d'offres portant sur l'achat de 126 avions de combat de génération actuelle lancé par New Dehli.
Dassault offered the best price and as a result, won the tender for the purchase of 126 combat aircraft generation launched by New Delhi.
En bourse In stock
Entre le Rafale de Dassault et de l'Eurofighter, du trio BAE-EADS-Finmeccanica New Dehli a finalement tranché ce mardi en faveur du français, selon des sources concordantes. Between the Rafale and the Eurofighter, BAE trio-EADS-Finmeccanica New Delhi on Tuesday finally decided in favor of the French, according to several sources. C'est la première fois que le chasseur français remporte un contrat à l'export.
This is the first time the French fighter wins for export. Le contrat qui porte sur 126 avions de combat de génération actuelle est estimé à une quinzaine de milliards de dollars (près de 10 milliards d'euros). The contract covers 126 combat aircraft generation is estimated at about fifteen billion dollars (10 billion euros).
La décision officielle ne devrait toutefois pas être annoncée avant la clôture de l'année fiscale indienne, fin mars. «Nous avons remporté le contrat mais un certain nombre de choses reste à finaliser» et «on est dans une phase de négociation exclusive»,
The official decision, however, should not be announced before the end of the Indian fiscal year end of March. "We won the contract but a number of things yet to be finalized" and "we are in a period of exclusive negotiations"
a par ailleurs temporisé le secrétaire d'Etat français au Commerce extérieur Pierre Lellouche sur la radio BFM.
has also delayed the French State Secretary for Foreign Trade Pierre Lellouche on BFM radio.
Mais d'ores et déjà, ce mardi, ce premier succès du Rafale faisait décoller le titre Dassault en Bourse.
But already, on Tuesday, the first success of the Rafale Dassault was the title off the stock market.
Peu après la nouvelle, l'action qui avait clôturé la veille à Paris à 612 euros, prenait plus de 20 %.
Shortly after the news, the action that had closed the previous day in Paris to 612 euros, took more than 20%.
Selon le ministère de la Défense Indienne, le Rafale serait de 4 à 5 millions de dollars moins cher que son rival européen.
According to the Indian Ministry of Defence, the Rafale would be 4 to 5 million dollars cheaper than its European rival.
Sur les 126 avions achetés, 18 émaneraient directement de l'usine bordelaise de Mérignac, les autres étant fabriqués en partenariat avec une entreprise indienne.
Of the 126 aircraft purchased, 18 came directly from the factory in Bordeaux Merignac, the others being produced in partnership with an Indian company.
A ce jour, un peu plus d'une centaine de Rafale sont sortis de la chaîne de Mérignac, tous destinés à l'Armée française qui en a commandé 286.
To date, just over a hundred Rafale came out of the chain of Merignac, all for the French Army who ordered 286.
Le ministère de la Défense indien avait ouvert les offres en public au Rafale et L'Eurofighter, le 4 novembre dernier.
The Indian Defense Ministry had opened the bids in public in the Rafale and Eurofighter, on November 4.
Les deux finalistes étaient arrivés en finale après une série de tests techniques très poussés qui ont laissé sur le carreau les américains F-16 (Lockheed Martin) et F-18 (Boeing), le suédois Gripen (Saab) et le russe Mig-35 (Mig).
The two finalists had reached the final after a series of tests very sophisticated techniques that have left on the floor of the U.S. F-16 (Lockheed Martin) and F-18 (Boeing), Swedish Gripen (Saab) and Russian Mig-35 (Mig).
( Relire : Avions de combat : épreuve de vérité pour le Rafale et l'Eurofighter en Inde
( Reread: Combat Aircraft: litmus test for the Rafale and the Eurofighter in India ) )
Le Rafale est également toujours en lice pour des appels d'offres aux Emirats Arabes Unis, au Qatar, au Koweït et au Brésil.
The Rafale is still in the running for tenders in the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and Brazil.
Le président de la République, Nicolas Sarkozy, qui s'était beaucoup investi sur 'le dossier Rafale', ne devrait pas manquer de se féliciter de ce premier succès à l'export lors de la traditionnelle cérémonie des voeux à la presse, prévue ce mardi en fin de journée.
The President of the Republic, Nicolas Sarkozy, who had invested heavily in 'folder Rafale', should not fail to welcome this first success in exports during the traditional ceremony of greeting to the press, provided that Tuesday late afternoon.
Plus d'infos à suivre....
More to follow .... 谷歌翻译，英文法文混杂，将就看吧 ..........
不差钱
..印度報業托拉斯稱，法國達索公司贏得印度的戰鬥機招標合約，將會供應126架陣風式戰鬥機。
該社引述不具名的消息人士稱，達索公司將提供陣風式多用途戰鬥機給印度，該公司擊敗了歐洲戰鬥機集團的颱風式戰鬥機。(法新社)
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http://hk.news.yahoo.com/法國陣風戰機贏得印度招標-122020690.html
該社引述不具名的消息人士稱，達索公司將提供陣風式多用途戰鬥機給印度，該公司擊敗了歐洲戰鬥機集團的颱風式戰鬥機。(法新社)
..
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/法國陣風戰機贏得印度招標-122020690.html
绿林奸汉 发表于 2012-1-31 16:36
钱包大小和空军的眼界胃口之间的博弈。
空军看上了“双风”的性能，却只能付出鹰狮或者Mig-35的价钱；
瞎说啥
凭啥土鳖的东西就该便宜
怎么也是F16E/F的价格
钱包大小和空军的眼界胃口之间的博弈。
空军看上了“双风”的性能，却只能付出鹰狮或者Mig-35的价钱；
瞎说啥
凭啥土鳖的东西就该便宜
怎么也是F16E/F的价格
hhiq 发表于 2012-1-31 21:03
瞎说啥
凭啥土鳖的东西就该便宜
怎么也是F16E/F的价格
要我说，从发动机到航电到武器，J-10B离F-16E/F还是有距离的；
当然二者完全是两种类型，不好直接比。
F-16E/F现在要卖恐怕也得过亿美元；
J-10B就算上AESA，成本价7000万美元应该拿得下，赚多少另说。
瞎说啥
凭啥土鳖的东西就该便宜
怎么也是F16E/F的价格
要我说，从发动机到航电到武器，J-10B离F-16E/F还是有距离的；
当然二者完全是两种类型，不好直接比。
F-16E/F现在要卖恐怕也得过亿美元；
J-10B就算上AESA，成本价7000万美元应该拿得下，赚多少另说。
妹子数量，质量，都不足，，回扣还有带提高
f-16e f
阿联酋 80亿美金 60架 还是04的价格
现在肯定更贵
j-10a 以前是2个亿人民币一架 B可能要贵些 但绝不会超过7000万美金
我觉得 印度还是选 mig-35吧
后勤 价格 熟悉度 通用性 都比较好
现在
大家都没钱 不是
阿联酋 80亿美金 60架 还是04的价格
现在肯定更贵
j-10a 以前是2个亿人民币一架 B可能要贵些 但绝不会超过7000万美金
我觉得 印度还是选 mig-35吧
后勤 价格 熟悉度 通用性 都比较好
现在
大家都没钱 不是
我觉得可能F35可能会加入战局，最终的结果也许是印度每家都采购一点。
RAF 发表于 2012-1-31 21:32
我觉得可能F35可能会加入战局，最终的结果也许是印度每家都采购一点。
傻子才干这个
后勤保障怎么办
我觉得可能F35可能会加入战局，最终的结果也许是印度每家都采购一点。
傻子才干这个
后勤保障怎么办
最新的消息不是说阵风中标了吗？
最新消息，法国中标拉。
中标后何时签合同？
法国人中标，恐怕是愿意转让全部技术甚至原代码有关吧。。
当然，回扣是不能少的。
还有，上面有的同学说126架，这是老黄历了，最新还要外加60架，为186架。
金额则到了200亿美刀。
当然，回扣是不能少的。
还有，上面有的同学说126架，这是老黄历了，最新还要外加60架，为186架。
金额则到了200亿美刀。
矿泉水沏茶 发表于 2012-1-31 22:19
中标后何时签合同？
据说是六个月后
中标后何时签合同？
据说是六个月后
九鬼 发表于 2012-1-31 22:21
法国人中标，恐怕是愿意转让全部技术甚至原代码有关吧。。
当然，回扣是不能少的。
外国网站上的消息是126架83亿欧元，原因是法国投标价最低。其他没细看。
至于那60架没说，估计看情况以后再说吧，毕竟现在卢比贬值的厉害。
法国人中标，恐怕是愿意转让全部技术甚至原代码有关吧。。
当然，回扣是不能少的。
外国网站上的消息是126架83亿欧元，原因是法国投标价最低。其他没细看。
至于那60架没说，估计看情况以后再说吧，毕竟现在卢比贬值的厉害。