维基解密更新了！

这东西谁知道是不是真的呢？
他要是胡乱编的也能信？
这网站就一个网络水军！

懒得翻墙……伸手党了……原文也行

老调调了，XZ问题，言论ZY，互联网，台湾，FL功，宗教，种族，人权，看看这些词语也知道美国会说些什么。

leonor 发表于 2011-4-18 18:47


   不用翻墙的

原文 2006-10-27

SUBJECT: BEIJING HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHERS DISCUSS EU HR; DIALOGUE; RAISE TIBET SHOOTING INCIDENT

1. (C) Summary: The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue took place October 19 in Beijing, with special emphasis on freedom of expression, criminal justice reform and combating racism. Chinese officials denied that censorship exists, challenged the basis for some of UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Nowak's conclusions, said China probably will not
ratify the ICCPR without making an exception to allow Reeducation-Through-Labor, and ascribed the September 30 shooting of Tibetans to "normal border guard behavior." The Canadian, Swedish, Australian, Swiss, German, Norwegian and New Zealand Embassies have raised, or plan to raise, the Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Politburo member Jia Qinglin told Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that religion can play an important role in China's efforts to build a "harmonious society." Jia also stated that the China-UK human rights dialogue will not be cut back to one round per year. End Summary.
EU Human Rights Dialogue

------------------------

2. (C) The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue on October 19 was largely "business as usual," reported Finnish Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]. Ambassador Tom Gronberg of Finland, which currently holds the rotating EU Presidency, led the EU delegation in meetings covering a range of issues including freedom of expression, criminal justice
reform and combating racism.

3. (C) On freedom of expression, Ambassador Gronberg noted that that the Chinese block some Internet search terms. MFA International Organizations Director General Wu Hailong launched into a lengthy background statement on the explosion in Chinese Internet use since 1990. Wu denied that there is "any censorship whatsoever" of news items in China. Censorship is "practically impossible," Wu said, given the large number of search queries. A moment later, Wu explained that the Chinese government has banned "Taiwan" as a search term because Internet users otherwise might use it to advance "illegal separatist activities." [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], also acknowledged Chinese Internet censorship, but only in
private conversation on the margins of the dialogue.

4. (C) The atmosphere was equally tense during discussions of criminal justice reform, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said. DG Wu read through a long list of reforms and planned reforms, all of which were previously known. When Ambassador Gronberg asked about reported abuses in specific cases involving Chen Guangcheng, Gao Zhisheng, and Hu Jia, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu and DDG Shen "acted as if mentioning these names was hitting under the belt." DG Wu said individuals were being punished for violating the law, not for expressing their opinions. He further said that there is unprecedented freedom of speech in China.

5. (C) Wu said police are receiving new training in compliance with UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak's recommendations. On the other hand, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DDG Shen challenged the factual basis for some of Nowak's recommendations. Shen said errors in translation caused Nowak to mistakenly conclude that prisoners are subject to torture, when in fact this is not the case. Shen said Nowak had been "misled" by prisoners and other people he interviewed.

6. (C) A public security official present at the meetings said Nowak mistakenly used the term "arbitrary detention" in describing Chinese practice. She said Nowak should have acknowledged that detentions in China are "according to law," though she did not address the question of whether Chinese law is arbitrary. The public security official also said "Reeducation-Through-Labor" is necessary in China, and is "very likely to stay." DG Wu said an inter-department group continues to work on ICCPR ratification, with some departments holding the view that the ICCPR cannot be ratified because it "totally contravenes Chinese law." The public security official, though not going so far as to say that the ICCPR cannot be ratified, said she is certain the
ratified version will include an exception allowing various forms of administrative detention including RTL because they have a "long and important tradition" in China.

7. (C) Tension relaxed to a degree when the topic turned to combating racism, an item placed on the dialogue agenda by the Chinese. According to [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], DG Wu and DDG Shen raised numerous examples of reported racism in Europe. The EU side did not deny the cases or belittle the Chinese side's comments about them which, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, set a "good example" for the Chinese and also improved the atmosphere at the meeting. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the Chinese "seemed to realize
the EU really tried to answer" their stated concerns about racism.

8. (C) Concerning claims of organ harvesting, DG Wu said that assertions of mass organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners are "outrageous" and that "many Americans are furious about these lies." He said the Chinese Government is likely to take up organ donation as a topic for further legislative or regulatory action. (Note: British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] separately told poloff that Maurice Slapak, a British transplant surgeon, is working with Chinese officials to revise China's organ transplant regulations. The new provisions, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, will (a) require disclosure of agreements by prisoners to donate organs; (b) prohibit the use of organs originating in China in surgeries performed outside the country; (c) encourage organ donation by Chinese citizens; (d) set standards for determining whether a person is brain dead; and (e) specify procedures for deciding what doctors and hospitals can perform transplant surgeries. End note.)

9. (C) Ambassador Gronberg raised the September 30
shooting of Tibetans at the Nangpa Pass, asking the
Chinese for clarification and to investigate the
incident thoroughly. DG Wu agreed to investigate and
report back to the EU on thi incident as information
becomes available. However, he cavalierly ascribed
the incident to "normal border guard behavior" and
told EU human rights interlocutors he thought their
"border guards would have acted the same way." EU
human rights officials passed a list of 76 prisoner
cases to the Chinese several days before the dialogue.
The EU received substantive responses in 11 cases and
the Chinese have promised additional responses in
other cases.

10. (C) EU Delegation Representative [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
said that Chinese participants in the October 19
dialogue generally seemed more confident than in
previous China-EU dialogue rounds, and even arrogant
at times. As evidence of this, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu
simply did not pay attention to EU interlocutors
during some of the discussions. DDG Shen, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said,
even laughed at some comments made by EU participants.
Shen complained about the Bern Process, saying that it
"offends China's dignity." He told the EU that it
should withdraw from the Bern Process and that
pressure on the Chinese through this channel will be
"counterproductive."
Action Following Tibet Border Incident

--------------------------------------------- -------

11. (C) Several Embassies reported that they have
raised concerns about the September 30 shooting
incident near Nangpa Pass. Canadian Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
said the Canadian Government
raised the Tibet incident with the Chinese Embassy in
Ottawa, but has been stymied by MFA refusals to meet
with Canadian Embassy officials in Beijing. Swedish
Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported that the Swedish
government raised the Tibet incident with FM Li
Zhaoxing on October 12. On October 16, a Swedish
delegation in Tibet raised the issue with local
officials, who claimed not to have heard of the
incident. Australian Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the
Australian Embassy delivered a demarche on the Tibet
incident last week to the MFA.

12. (C) Other Embassies reported plans to raise the
Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Swiss Foreign
Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey will discuss the incident
in October 27 meetings with FM Li. A German
delegation will raise the incident with MFA
International Organizations officials during the next
round of the China-German human rights dialogue on
October 30 and 31. Norway and New Zealand, whose
representatives were not present at the October 26
human rights watchers meeting, reportedly have either
raised the Tibet incident with Chinese officials or
plan to do so soon.
Jia Qinglin Discusses Religion With Archbishop

--------------------------------------------- -

13. (C) British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported on
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams' recent visit
to China, which is the third visit by a head of the
Anglican Church to China. In an October 19 meeting,
CPPCC Chairman and Politburo member Jia Qinglin told
Williams that the formal "Decision" of the Central
Committee's recent Sixth Plenum contains the first
ever high-level Party pronouncement commenting
positively on the role of religion in China. The
"Decision" on China's future economic and social
development passed this month states: "we should
strengthen the unity among the religious masses, those
without religious belief, and those believing in
different religions and bring the positive role of
religion into play in promoting social harmony." Jia
told Williams that religion can play an important role
in China's efforts to build a "harmonious society,"
though he also affirmed that this role must be
"according to law." In a separate meeting with
Assistant Foreign Minister Kong Quan, Kong told
Williams that the Dalai Lama's "hidden agenda" is
Tibetan independence.
China Says It Will Not Cut Back On China-UK Dialogue

--------------------------------------------- -------

14. (C) Post earlier reported (reftel) that Chinese
officials told the British Embassy it will cut back
the frequency of its formal human rights dialogue with
the United Kingdom to one round per year. British
Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said CPPCC Chair Jia told British Lord
Chancellor Lord Falconer on October 25 that the number
of rounds will remain at two per year. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] believes
Jia's statement reflects recognition among senior
Chinese officials of the "political value" of
dialogue, which trumps lower-level MFA officials'
"working level" preference for fewer rounds.

原文 2006-10-27

SUBJECT: BEIJING HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHERS DISCUSS EU HR; DIALOGUE; RAISE TIBET SHOOTING INCIDENT

1. (C) Summary: The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue took place October 19 in Beijing, with special emphasis on freedom of expression, criminal justice reform and combating racism. Chinese officials denied that censorship exists, challenged the basis for some of UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Nowak's conclusions, said China probably will not
ratify the ICCPR without making an exception to allow Reeducation-Through-Labor, and ascribed the September 30 shooting of Tibetans to "normal border guard behavior." The Canadian, Swedish, Australian, Swiss, German, Norwegian and New Zealand Embassies have raised, or plan to raise, the Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Politburo member Jia Qinglin told Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that religion can play an important role in China's efforts to build a "harmonious society." Jia also stated that the China-UK human rights dialogue will not be cut back to one round per year. End Summary.
EU Human Rights Dialogue

------------------------

2. (C) The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue on October 19 was largely "business as usual," reported Finnish Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]. Ambassador Tom Gronberg of Finland, which currently holds the rotating EU Presidency, led the EU delegation in meetings covering a range of issues including freedom of expression, criminal justice
reform and combating racism.

3. (C) On freedom of expression, Ambassador Gronberg noted that that the Chinese block some Internet search terms. MFA International Organizations Director General Wu Hailong launched into a lengthy background statement on the explosion in Chinese Internet use since 1990. Wu denied that there is "any censorship whatsoever" of news items in China. Censorship is "practically impossible," Wu said, given the large number of search queries. A moment later, Wu explained that the Chinese government has banned "Taiwan" as a search term because Internet users otherwise might use it to advance "illegal separatist activities." [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], also acknowledged Chinese Internet censorship, but only in
private conversation on the margins of the dialogue.

4. (C) The atmosphere was equally tense during discussions of criminal justice reform, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said. DG Wu read through a long list of reforms and planned reforms, all of which were previously known. When Ambassador Gronberg asked about reported abuses in specific cases involving Chen Guangcheng, Gao Zhisheng, and Hu Jia, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu and DDG Shen "acted as if mentioning these names was hitting under the belt." DG Wu said individuals were being punished for violating the law, not for expressing their opinions. He further said that there is unprecedented freedom of speech in China.

5. (C) Wu said police are receiving new training in compliance with UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak's recommendations. On the other hand, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DDG Shen challenged the factual basis for some of Nowak's recommendations. Shen said errors in translation caused Nowak to mistakenly conclude that prisoners are subject to torture, when in fact this is not the case. Shen said Nowak had been "misled" by prisoners and other people he interviewed.

6. (C) A public security official present at the meetings said Nowak mistakenly used the term "arbitrary detention" in describing Chinese practice. She said Nowak should have acknowledged that detentions in China are "according to law," though she did not address the question of whether Chinese law is arbitrary. The public security official also said "Reeducation-Through-Labor" is necessary in China, and is "very likely to stay." DG Wu said an inter-department group continues to work on ICCPR ratification, with some departments holding the view that the ICCPR cannot be ratified because it "totally contravenes Chinese law." The public security official, though not going so far as to say that the ICCPR cannot be ratified, said she is certain the
ratified version will include an exception allowing various forms of administrative detention including RTL because they have a "long and important tradition" in China.

7. (C) Tension relaxed to a degree when the topic turned to combating racism, an item placed on the dialogue agenda by the Chinese. According to [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], DG Wu and DDG Shen raised numerous examples of reported racism in Europe. The EU side did not deny the cases or belittle the Chinese side's comments about them which, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, set a "good example" for the Chinese and also improved the atmosphere at the meeting. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the Chinese "seemed to realize
the EU really tried to answer" their stated concerns about racism.

8. (C) Concerning claims of organ harvesting, DG Wu said that assertions of mass organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners are "outrageous" and that "many Americans are furious about these lies." He said the Chinese Government is likely to take up organ donation as a topic for further legislative or regulatory action. (Note: British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] separately told poloff that Maurice Slapak, a British transplant surgeon, is working with Chinese officials to revise China's organ transplant regulations. The new provisions, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, will (a) require disclosure of agreements by prisoners to donate organs; (b) prohibit the use of organs originating in China in surgeries performed outside the country; (c) encourage organ donation by Chinese citizens; (d) set standards for determining whether a person is brain dead; and (e) specify procedures for deciding what doctors and hospitals can perform transplant surgeries. End note.)

9. (C) Ambassador Gronberg raised the September 30
shooting of Tibetans at the Nangpa Pass, asking the
Chinese for clarification and to investigate the
incident thoroughly. DG Wu agreed to investigate and
report back to the EU on thi incident as information
becomes available. However, he cavalierly ascribed
the incident to "normal border guard behavior" and
told EU human rights interlocutors he thought their
"border guards would have acted the same way." EU
human rights officials passed a list of 76 prisoner
cases to the Chinese several days before the dialogue.
The EU received substantive responses in 11 cases and
the Chinese have promised additional responses in
other cases.

10. (C) EU Delegation Representative [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
said that Chinese participants in the October 19
dialogue generally seemed more confident than in
previous China-EU dialogue rounds, and even arrogant
at times. As evidence of this, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu
simply did not pay attention to EU interlocutors
during some of the discussions. DDG Shen, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said,
even laughed at some comments made by EU participants.
Shen complained about the Bern Process, saying that it
"offends China's dignity." He told the EU that it
should withdraw from the Bern Process and that
pressure on the Chinese through this channel will be
"counterproductive."
Action Following Tibet Border Incident

--------------------------------------------- -------

11. (C) Several Embassies reported that they have
raised concerns about the September 30 shooting
incident near Nangpa Pass. Canadian Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
said the Canadian Government
raised the Tibet incident with the Chinese Embassy in
Ottawa, but has been stymied by MFA refusals to meet
with Canadian Embassy officials in Beijing. Swedish
Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported that the Swedish
government raised the Tibet incident with FM Li
Zhaoxing on October 12. On October 16, a Swedish
delegation in Tibet raised the issue with local
officials, who claimed not to have heard of the
incident. Australian Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the
Australian Embassy delivered a demarche on the Tibet
incident last week to the MFA.

12. (C) Other Embassies reported plans to raise the
Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Swiss Foreign
Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey will discuss the incident
in October 27 meetings with FM Li. A German
delegation will raise the incident with MFA
International Organizations officials during the next
round of the China-German human rights dialogue on
October 30 and 31. Norway and New Zealand, whose
representatives were not present at the October 26
human rights watchers meeting, reportedly have either
raised the Tibet incident with Chinese officials or
plan to do so soon.
Jia Qinglin Discusses Religion With Archbishop

--------------------------------------------- -

13. (C) British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported on
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams' recent visit
to China, which is the third visit by a head of the
Anglican Church to China. In an October 19 meeting,
CPPCC Chairman and Politburo member Jia Qinglin told
Williams that the formal "Decision" of the Central
Committee's recent Sixth Plenum contains the first
ever high-level Party pronouncement commenting
positively on the role of religion in China. The
"Decision" on China's future economic and social
development passed this month states: "we should
strengthen the unity among the religious masses, those
without religious belief, and those believing in
different religions and bring the positive role of
religion into play in promoting social harmony." Jia
told Williams that religion can play an important role
in China's efforts to build a "harmonious society,"
though he also affirmed that this role must be
"according to law." In a separate meeting with
Assistant Foreign Minister Kong Quan, Kong told
Williams that the Dalai Lama's "hidden agenda" is
Tibetan independence.
China Says It Will Not Cut Back On China-UK Dialogue

--------------------------------------------- -------

14. (C) Post earlier reported (reftel) that Chinese
officials told the British Embassy it will cut back
the frequency of its formal human rights dialogue with
the United Kingdom to one round per year. British
Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said CPPCC Chair Jia told British Lord
Chancellor Lord Falconer on October 25 that the number
of rounds will remain at two per year. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] believes
Jia's statement reflects recognition among senior
Chinese officials of the "political value" of
dialogue, which trumps lower-level MFA officials'
"working level" preference for fewer rounds.

回复 6# xxj00701012
具体意思谁能说说吗？
:D

维基的消息来源是MD，要是真有什么重量级的消息MD还需要等到维基来爆料吗

人*权问题，西*藏问题。。。。大概就这样吧...
怎么感觉像MD的言论。不像是维基的？

原文 2006-10-27

SUBJECT: BEIJING HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHERS DISCUSS EU HR; DIALOGUE; RAISE TIBET SHOOTING INCIDENT

1. (C) Summary: The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue took place October 19 in Beijing, with special emphasis on freedom of expression, criminal justice reform and combating racism. Chinese officials denied that censorship exists, challenged the basis for some of UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Nowak's conclusions, said China probably will not
ratify the ICCPR without making an exception to allow Reeducation-Through-Labor, and ascribed the September 30 shooting of Tibetans to "normal border guard behavior." The Canadian, Swedish, Australian, Swiss, German, Norwegian and New Zealand Embassies have raised, or plan to raise, the Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Politburo member Jia Qinglin told Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that religion can play an important role in China's efforts to build a "harmonious society." Jia also stated that the China-UK human rights dialogue will not be cut back to one round per year. End Summary.
EU Human Rights Dialogue

------------------------

2. (C) The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights dialogue on October 19 was largely "business as usual," reported Finnish Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]. Ambassador Tom Gronberg of Finland, which currently holds the rotating EU Presidency, led the EU delegation in meetings covering a range of issues including freedom of expression, criminal justice
reform and combating racism.

3. (C) On freedom of expression, Ambassador Gronberg noted that that the Chinese block some Internet search terms. MFA International Organizations Director General Wu Hailong launched into a lengthy background statement on the explosion in Chinese Internet use since 1990. Wu denied that there is "any censorship whatsoever" of news items in China. Censorship is "practically impossible," Wu said, given the large number of search queries. A moment later, Wu explained that the Chinese government has banned "Taiwan" as a search term because Internet users otherwise might use it to advance "illegal separatist activities." [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], also acknowledged Chinese Internet censorship, but only in
private conversation on the margins of the dialogue.

4. (C) The atmosphere was equally tense during discussions of criminal justice reform, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said. DG Wu read through a long list of reforms and planned reforms, all of which were previously known. When Ambassador Gronberg asked about reported abuses in specific cases involving Chen Guangcheng, Gao Zhisheng, and Hu Jia, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu and DDG Shen "acted as if mentioning these names was hitting under the belt." DG Wu said individuals were being punished for violating the law, not for expressing their opinions. He further said that there is unprecedented freedom of speech in China.

5. (C) Wu said police are receiving new training in compliance with UN Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak's recommendations. On the other hand, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DDG Shen challenged the factual basis for some of Nowak's recommendations. Shen said errors in translation caused Nowak to mistakenly conclude that prisoners are subject to torture, when in fact this is not the case. Shen said Nowak had been "misled" by prisoners and other people he interviewed.

6. (C) A public security official present at the meetings said Nowak mistakenly used the term "arbitrary detention" in describing Chinese practice. She said Nowak should have acknowledged that detentions in China are "according to law," though she did not address the question of whether Chinese law is arbitrary. The public security official also said "Reeducation-Through-Labor" is necessary in China, and is "very likely to stay." DG Wu said an inter-department group continues to work on ICCPR ratification, with some departments holding the view that the ICCPR cannot be ratified because it "totally contravenes Chinese law." The public security official, though not going so far as to say that the ICCPR cannot be ratified, said she is certain the
ratified version will include an exception allowing various forms of administrative detention including RTL because they have a "long and important tradition" in China.

7. (C) Tension relaxed to a degree when the topic turned to combating racism, an item placed on the dialogue agenda by the Chinese. According to [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], DG Wu and DDG Shen raised numerous examples of reported racism in Europe. The EU side did not deny the cases or belittle the Chinese side's comments about them which, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, set a "good example" for the Chinese and also improved the atmosphere at the meeting. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the Chinese "seemed to realize
the EU really tried to answer" their stated concerns about racism.

8. (C) Concerning claims of organ harvesting, DG Wu said that assertions of mass organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners are "outrageous" and that "many Americans are furious about these lies." He said the Chinese Government is likely to take up organ donation as a topic for further legislative or regulatory action. (Note: British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] separately told poloff that Maurice Slapak, a British transplant surgeon, is working with Chinese officials to revise China's organ transplant regulations. The new provisions, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, will (a) require disclosure of agreements by prisoners to donate organs; (b) prohibit the use of organs originating in China in surgeries performed outside the country; (c) encourage organ donation by Chinese citizens; (d) set standards for determining whether a person is brain dead; and (e) specify procedures for deciding what doctors and hospitals can perform transplant surgeries. End note.)

9. (C) Ambassador Gronberg raised the September 30
shooting of Tibetans at the Nangpa Pass, asking the
Chinese for clarification and to investigate the
incident thoroughly. DG Wu agreed to investigate and
report back to the EU on thi incident as information
becomes available. However, he cavalierly ascribed
the incident to "normal border guard behavior" and
told EU human rights interlocutors he thought their
"border guards would have acted the same way." EU
human rights officials passed a list of 76 prisoner
cases to the Chinese several days before the dialogue.
The EU received substantive responses in 11 cases and
the Chinese have promised additional responses in
other cases.

10. (C) EU Delegation Representative [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
said that Chinese participants in the October 19
dialogue generally seemed more confident than in
previous China-EU dialogue rounds, and even arrogant
at times. As evidence of this, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu
simply did not pay attention to EU interlocutors
during some of the discussions. DDG Shen, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said,
even laughed at some comments made by EU participants.
Shen complained about the Bern Process, saying that it
"offends China's dignity." He told the EU that it
should withdraw from the Bern Process and that
pressure on the Chinese through this channel will be
"counterproductive."
Action Following Tibet Border Incident

--------------------------------------------- -------

11. (C) Several Embassies reported that they have
raised concerns about the September 30 shooting
incident near Nangpa Pass. Canadian Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
said the Canadian Government
raised the Tibet incident with the Chinese Embassy in
Ottawa, but has been stymied by MFA refusals to meet
with Canadian Embassy officials in Beijing. Swedish
Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported that the Swedish
government raised the Tibet incident with FM Li
Zhaoxing on October 12. On October 16, a Swedish
delegation in Tibet raised the issue with local
officials, who claimed not to have heard of the
incident. Australian Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the
Australian Embassy delivered a demarche on the Tibet
incident last week to the MFA.

12. (C) Other Embassies reported plans to raise the
Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Swiss Foreign
Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey will discuss the incident
in October 27 meetings with FM Li. A German
delegation will raise the incident with MFA
International Organizations officials during the next
round of the China-German human rights dialogue on
October 30 and 31. Norway and New Zealand, whose
representatives were not present at the October 26
human rights watchers meeting, reportedly have either
raised the Tibet incident with Chinese officials or
plan to do so soon.
Jia Qinglin Discusses Religion With Archbishop

--------------------------------------------- -

13. (C) British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported on
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams' recent visit
to China, which is the third visit by a head of the
Anglican Church to China. In an October 19 meeting,
CPPCC Chairman and Politburo member Jia Qinglin told
Williams that the formal "Decision" of the Central
Committee's recent Sixth Plenum contains the first
ever high-level Party pronouncement commenting
positively on the role of religion in China. The
"Decision" on China's future economic and social
development passed this month states: "we should
strengthen the unity among the religious masses, those
without religious belief, and those believing in
different religions and bring the positive role of
religion into play in promoting social harmony." Jia
told Williams that religion can play an important role
in China's efforts to build a "harmonious society,"
though he also affirmed that this role must be
"according to law." In a separate meeting with
Assistant Foreign Minister Kong Quan, Kong told
Williams that the Dalai Lama's "hidden agenda" is
Tibetan independence.
China Says It Will Not Cut Back On China-UK Dialogue

--------------------------------------------- -------

14. (C) Post earlier reported (reftel) that Chinese
officials told the British Embassy it will cut back
the frequency of its formal human rights dialogue with
the United Kingdom to one round per year. British
Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said CPPCC Chair Jia told British Lord
Chancellor Lord Falconer on October 25 that the number
of rounds will remain at two per year. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] believes
Jia's statement reflects recognition among senior
Chinese officials of the "political value" of
dialogue, which trumps lower-level MFA officials'
"working level" preference for fewer rounds.

发送自我的 Desire HD 大板凳

很浅显的英文:b没什么新东西

据说维基解密打击的目标是希拉里派，谁让这老娘们公开声称要抢拜登的副大统领位子？

回复 7# hxgs

日期：2006-10-17
1. 第22轮中欧人权对话于2006-10-19在北京举行，重点集中在言论自由、司法公正改革和打击种族主义。中国官员否认存在审查制度，并对欧洲在“虐待”方面的特殊记录员Nowak的结论提出了质疑。中国官员说如果不允许“劳动改造”的话，中国将不会签署“公民权利与政治权利国际公约”（ICCPR），并声称2006-9-30发生的枪击XZ人的事件是“正常的边界守卫行为”。加拿大、瑞士、澳大利亚、瑞典、德国、挪威和新西兰的外交官员已经，或计划对中国官员提出XZ事件。政治局成员JiaQL告诉Canterbury的大主教，在中国努力建设“和谐社会”的过程中，宗教可以扮演重要的角色。Jia同时声明，中欧人权对话不会被缩减为一年一次。

2. 据芬兰大使所说，这次对话总体来说“像往常一样是个交易”。芬兰外交官Tom Gronberg，同时也是当前的欧盟轮值主席，是欧盟代表团在一系列会议中的领导者。这些会议涉及言论自由、司法公正改革和打击种族主义。

3. 在言论自由方面，Gronberg指出中国在互联网搜素上河蟹了一些词汇。外交部国际司司长吴海龙就1990年后中国互联网的爆发性发展，做了很长的陈述。他否认了中国会“审查任何新出现的词”。吴说，因为有大量的搜索需求，“审查没有可操作性”。过了一会儿，吴解释说，因为可能被互联网使用者用于推进“分裂活动”，Tg在搜索上河蟹了“TW“（真的？）。XXX也承认了中国存在网络审查，但只是在私下的会面中。

4. XXX说，在谈到司法公正改革时，会议气氛一度紧张。吴读了一长串已经进行，或准备进行的改革，不过并没有新的内容。在涉及到Chen Guangcheng, Gao Zhisheng, 和 Hu Jia的个案中，据报存在虐待（abuses，或翻成“滥用法律”？）的情况。当Gronberg询问相关情况时，据XXX说，”一提到这些名字“，吴和沈（音译）表现的像是“被踢了JJ”（"acted as if mentioning these names was hitting underthe belt“，是否是这个意思？）。吴说，人们不会因为言论被惩处，只会因为违法被惩处。他还说，中国现在有着前所未有的言论自由。

5. 吴说，根据欧洲在“虐待”方面的特殊记录员Nowak的建议，警察们接受了一些新的训练。然而，XXX说，沈对于Nowak结论的一些事实基础提出了质疑。沈说，翻译的误差使得Nowak误认为服刑人员受到虐待，而事实上不存在这样的情况。沈说Nowak被受访的服刑人员误导了。

6. 一位公安方面的官员在会议上说，Nowak在描述中国的情况时，错误使用了“强制拘留”这个词。她说Nowak应该认识到，在中国的拘留都是合法的，但她并没回应有关“中国法律是否是强制的”这个问题。（弱问：法律难道可以不是强制的？）。这位官员还说，“劳动改造”符合中国国情，并很可能延续下去。吴说，有一个跨部门的小组在进行ICCPR审批方面的工作，但一些部门认为ICCPR不可能被批准，因为它“完全违反中国法律”。那位公安官员，尽管没说ICCPR不会被批准，但她明确指出，批准的版本将会允许包括“劳改”在内的一系列服刑管理方式，因为这些“在中国有悠久而且重要的传统”。

先翻这些，欢迎拍砖～～

回复 7# hxgs

日期：2006-10-17
1. 第22轮中欧人权对话于2006-10-19在北京举行，重点集中在言论自由、司法公正改革和打击种族主义。中国官员否认存在审查制度，并对欧洲在“虐待”方面的特殊记录员Nowak的结论提出了质疑。中国官员说如果不允许“劳动改造”的话，中国将不会签署“公民权利与政治权利国际公约”（ICCPR），并声称2006-9-30发生的枪击XZ人的事件是“正常的边界守卫行为”。加拿大、瑞士、澳大利亚、瑞典、德国、挪威和新西兰的外交官员已经，或计划对中国官员提出XZ事件。政治局成员JiaQL告诉Canterbury的大主教，在中国努力建设“和谐社会”的过程中，宗教可以扮演重要的角色。Jia同时声明，中欧人权对话不会被缩减为一年一次。

2. 据芬兰大使所说，这次对话总体来说“像往常一样是个交易”。芬兰外交官Tom Gronberg，同时也是当前的欧盟轮值主席，是欧盟代表团在一系列会议中的领导者。这些会议涉及言论自由、司法公正改革和打击种族主义。

3. 在言论自由方面，Gronberg指出中国在互联网搜素上河蟹了一些词汇。外交部国际司司长吴海龙就1990年后中国互联网的爆发性发展，做了很长的陈述。他否认了中国会“审查任何新出现的词”。吴说，因为有大量的搜索需求，“审查没有可操作性”。过了一会儿，吴解释说，因为可能被互联网使用者用于推进“分裂活动”，Tg在搜索上河蟹了“TW“（真的？）。XXX也承认了中国存在网络审查，但只是在私下的会面中。

4. XXX说，在谈到司法公正改革时，会议气氛一度紧张。吴读了一长串已经进行，或准备进行的改革，不过并没有新的内容。在涉及到Chen Guangcheng, Gao Zhisheng, 和 Hu Jia的个案中，据报存在虐待（abuses，或翻成“滥用法律”？）的情况。当Gronberg询问相关情况时，据XXX说，”一提到这些名字“，吴和沈（音译）表现的像是“被踢了JJ”（"acted as if mentioning these names was hitting underthe belt“，是否是这个意思？）。吴说，人们不会因为言论被惩处，只会因为违法被惩处。他还说，中国现在有着前所未有的言论自由。

5. 吴说，根据欧洲在“虐待”方面的特殊记录员Nowak的建议，警察们接受了一些新的训练。然而，XXX说，沈对于Nowak结论的一些事实基础提出了质疑。沈说，翻译的误差使得Nowak误认为服刑人员受到虐待，而事实上不存在这样的情况。沈说Nowak被受访的服刑人员误导了。

6. 一位公安方面的官员在会议上说，Nowak在描述中国的情况时，错误使用了“强制拘留”这个词。她说Nowak应该认识到，在中国的拘留都是合法的，但她并没回应有关“中国法律是否是强制的”这个问题。（弱问：法律难道可以不是强制的？）。这位官员还说，“劳动改造”符合中国国情，并很可能延续下去。吴说，有一个跨部门的小组在进行ICCPR审批方面的工作，但一些部门认为ICCPR不可能被批准，因为它“完全违反中国法律”。那位公安官员，尽管没说ICCPR不会被批准，但她明确指出，批准的版本将会允许包括“劳改”在内的一系列服刑管理方式，因为这些“在中国有悠久而且重要的传统”。

先翻这些，欢迎拍砖～～

回复 3# leonor

原文
2009-3-26

SUBJECT: PRC PROTESTS DOD CHINA MILITARY POWER REPORT

¶1. (C) Summary: Reading unenthusiastically from prepared
remarks, MFA DG for North American and Oceanian Affairs Zheng
Zeguang formally protested to the A/DCM DOD's annual report
to Congress on China's military power.  Zheng criticized the
report as containing "erroneous and unfounded" accusations
that have undermined U.S.-China relations.  China will
continue to pursue "peaceful development" and has legitimate
needs to build its military for national security purposes,
Zheng claimed.  The Taiwan portion of the report triggered a
recitation by Zheng of China's standard talking points,
followed by the assertion that China handles disputes through
consultation and in accordance with international law.  Zheng
closed with a complaint that the report had come out when
Washington and Beijing have a "stable and good beginning" for
relations under the new U.S. administration, arguing that we
need to "eradicate the negative impact" of the report to
reduce the damage done to the bilateral relationship,
particularly mil-mil relations.  The A/DCM pointed out that
the report is mandated by Congress, and encouraged China's
responsible participation in world affairs and increased
military transparency.  The A/DCM reiterated the U.S.
commitment to our one China policy.  End Summary.

ATMOSPHERICS SUGGEST MFA NOT ENTHUSIASTIC
-----------------------------------------

¶2. (C) MFA North American and Oceanian Affairs Department
Director General Zheng Zeguang called in the Acting DCM March
26 to discuss the 2009 DOD report to Congress on China's
military power.  Acting POL M/C and Assistant Naval Attache
accompanied the A/DCM.  Zheng stated that "last year I did
this with your predecessor after the 2008 report was
released, and now I get to do it again."  Zheng spoke in
English but worked from a text prepared in Chinese.  Zheng's
delivery was quiet and unemotional, and in setting up the
meeting, the MFA U.S. Division Director made a point of
telling Acting POL M/C that "we have to do this, let's just
get it out of the way so it will not be an issue when we are
working on our leaders' meeting."

POINT ONE: CHINA NOT HAPPY WITH THE REPORT
------------------------------------------

¶3. (C) Zheng said that before DOD issued the report, the
Chinese government had discussed the issue with USG officials
in Beijing and Washington, urging the USG to stop issuing
these reports and disseminating "untrue theories" of the
China military threat.  Zheng criticized the report for
containing "erroneous and unfounded accusations against
China," and for criticizing China's "legitimate and normal"
defense buildup.  Zheng said the report's discussion of the
PRC military threat against Taiwan is "rhetoric that serves
as an excuse for the United States to continue to sell arms
to Taiwan."

¶4. (C) Zheng protested what he described as the report's
claims that China is projecting power to ensure access to
resources and enforce claims to disputed territories, as well
as the report's "irresponsible remarks about China's naval
strategy."  The report has "seriously violated" the norms
guiding international relations and the three Sino-U.S. joint
communiques and undermined both the overall bilateral
relationship and strategic trust between our two countries,
Zheng stated.

POINT TWO: CHINA'S DEVELOPMENT "PEACEFUL"
-----------------------------------------

¶5. (C) China's adheres to a "peaceful development policy,"
Zheng continued, and will continue to pursue a security
policy that is defensive in nature.  China has all along been
"a strong force safeguarding peace and stability in Asia
Pacific and the world."

¶6. (C) Zheng advised that China is a sovereign country with
22,000 km of land borders and also 18,000 km of coastline.
To safeguard national security and territorial integrity,
China needs to continue its defense buildup.  "This is the
solemn right and responsibility for any sovereign country in

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the world."  China will not participate in any arms race, and
neither will it pose a threat to any country, Zheng declared.
It is "erroneous and unacceptable" for the United States to
continue the annual practice of using the report to
disseminate and spread the idea of a "China threat."

POINT THREE: TAIWAN
-------------------

¶7. (C) Zheng reminded the A/DCM that Taiwan is an
"inalienable part" of Chinese territory, and that recent
months have seen the steady improvement and development of
the cross-Strait relationship.  He recited the PRC mantra
that China will continue to strive for peaceful development
of cross-Strait relations on the basis of mutual trust,
putting aside disputes, seeking common ground, resolving
differences and win-win.  However, no matter how the Taiwan
Strait situation evolves, China will continue to uphold the
one-China principle, oppose Taiwan independence and oppose
firmly two Chinas or One China, One Taiwan.

¶8. (C) Zheng urged the United States to abide by its
commitments on Taiwan, adopt the one-China principle, observe
the three joint communiques, oppose Taiwan independence and
oppose Taiwan's participation in any international
organization in which statehood is required for membership.
He also urged the United States to stop selling arms to
Taiwan and stop official military contacts with Taiwan so as
not to hurt the peaceful development of cross-Strait
relations and U.S.-China relations.

POINT FOUR: CHINA IS LAW-ABIDING
--------------------------------

¶9. (C) Zheng claimed that China "upholds the principle of
resolving disputes through consultation and peaceful
negotiation on the basis of international law."  He urged the
United States to "have a clear understanding of China's
policy in this regard and rectify the erroneous practice of
making irresponsible remarks about China's tactics and
policies in dealing with territorial disputes with other
countries."  He claimed that issuing the report "hurts the
trust between China and other countries and creates problems
for peace and stability in the region."

POINT FIVE: NOT NOW, WE'RE DOING SO WELL!
-----------------------------------------

¶10. (C) Zheng complained that the report was issued "just
when we have had a relatively stable and good beginning with
the new U.S. administration."  He noted the upcoming
"high-level exchanges," including the meeting between our two
presidents, and said that the current state of relations "did
not come about easily and required hard work on both sides."

PERORATION: "ERADICATE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT"
-------------------------------------------

¶11. (C) Zheng said China urges the United States "to discard
Cold War mentality and biased opinion and view China's
foreign and defense policy in an objective and fair manner."
China calls on the United States to "stop making
irresponsible remarks that hurt mutual trust and cooperation,
and stop this practice of issuing the so-called military
power report."  China also urges the United States "to take
immediate actions to eradicate any negative impact on
relations as the result of this report.  In so doing, the
United States can reduce the damage done between our two
countries and our two militaries."

DCM RESPONDS
------------

¶12. (C) The A/DCM responded that the report is mandated by
the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 2000,
and that the report is intended to be factual, descriptive
and analytical.  It does not attempt to draw conclusions, he
said, but is intended to let the facts speak for themselves.
He noted that the report discusses weaknesses, as well as
strengths, of the PRC's military.

¶13. (C) U.S. policy seeks to establish a positive and
cooperative relationship with China, one in which we deepen
and strengthen our ties on issues of common interest and

BEIJING 00000809  003 OF 003


candidly address differences where they persist, the A/DCM
said.  He quoted Secretary Clinton's statement that "this is
not a one-way effort.  Much of what we will do depends on the
choices China makes about its future at home and abroad."

¶14. (C) The A/DCM reiterated that the United States welcomes
the rise of a stable, peaceful and prosperous China, and
encourages China to participate responsibly in world affairs
by taking on a greater share of the burden for the stability,
resilience and growth of the international system.  He noted
that despite the welcome development of China's routine
publication of defense white papers (the most recent being
China's National Defense in 2008 published on January 20,
2009), much more could be said by China about its build-up of
strategic nuclear and conventional capabilities.  China has
left unclear to the international community the purposes and
objectives of the PLA's evolving doctrine and capabilities.

¶15. (C) On the subject of Taiwan, the A/DCM restated U.S.
policy by declaring that the United States remains committed
to our one China policy based on the three joint communiques
and the Taiwan Relations Act.   He said the United States
does not support Taiwan independence and believes that
cross-Strait issues should be resolved peacefully in a manner
acceptable to people on both sides of the Strait, and opposes
unilateral actions by either side to alter the status quo
across the Strait.  He took the opportunity to urge China to
work towards a peaceful resolution of its differences with
Taiwan.  He reminded Zheng that we make defense articles
available to Taiwan to allow it to maintain a credible
defense as provided for in the Taiwan Relations Act, and
urged China to reduce military deployments aimed at Taiwan
and to pursue a peaceful resolution of cross-Strait issues.

¶16. (C) Showing a bit more spark, Zheng said the United
States should recognize that it is "only a member of the
international community" and should follow the norms of
international relations and respect territorial sovereignty
and integrity.  He said that the United States should look at
China's "legitimate defense buildup" in an objective and fair
manner, and discard its Cold War mentality and zero-sum
perception of China-U.S. relations.  He protested that the
Taiwan Relations Act is "a unilateral piece of U.S.
legislation.  The three communiques signed by the United
States constitute the guiding principle for Taiwan policy,
not the TRA," he said.

回复 3# leonor

原文
2009-3-26

SUBJECT: PRC PROTESTS DOD CHINA MILITARY POWER REPORT

¶1. (C) Summary: Reading unenthusiastically from prepared
remarks, MFA DG for North American and Oceanian Affairs Zheng
Zeguang formally protested to the A/DCM DOD's annual report
to Congress on China's military power.  Zheng criticized the
report as containing "erroneous and unfounded" accusations
that have undermined U.S.-China relations.  China will
continue to pursue "peaceful development" and has legitimate
needs to build its military for national security purposes,
Zheng claimed.  The Taiwan portion of the report triggered a
recitation by Zheng of China's standard talking points,
followed by the assertion that China handles disputes through
consultation and in accordance with international law.  Zheng
closed with a complaint that the report had come out when
Washington and Beijing have a "stable and good beginning" for
relations under the new U.S. administration, arguing that we
need to "eradicate the negative impact" of the report to
reduce the damage done to the bilateral relationship,
particularly mil-mil relations.  The A/DCM pointed out that
the report is mandated by Congress, and encouraged China's
responsible participation in world affairs and increased
military transparency.  The A/DCM reiterated the U.S.
commitment to our one China policy.  End Summary.

ATMOSPHERICS SUGGEST MFA NOT ENTHUSIASTIC
-----------------------------------------

¶2. (C) MFA North American and Oceanian Affairs Department
Director General Zheng Zeguang called in the Acting DCM March
26 to discuss the 2009 DOD report to Congress on China's
military power.  Acting POL M/C and Assistant Naval Attache
accompanied the A/DCM.  Zheng stated that "last year I did
this with your predecessor after the 2008 report was
released, and now I get to do it again."  Zheng spoke in
English but worked from a text prepared in Chinese.  Zheng's
delivery was quiet and unemotional, and in setting up the
meeting, the MFA U.S. Division Director made a point of
telling Acting POL M/C that "we have to do this, let's just
get it out of the way so it will not be an issue when we are
working on our leaders' meeting."

POINT ONE: CHINA NOT HAPPY WITH THE REPORT
------------------------------------------

¶3. (C) Zheng said that before DOD issued the report, the
Chinese government had discussed the issue with USG officials
in Beijing and Washington, urging the USG to stop issuing
these reports and disseminating "untrue theories" of the
China military threat.  Zheng criticized the report for
containing "erroneous and unfounded accusations against
China," and for criticizing China's "legitimate and normal"
defense buildup.  Zheng said the report's discussion of the
PRC military threat against Taiwan is "rhetoric that serves
as an excuse for the United States to continue to sell arms
to Taiwan."

¶4. (C) Zheng protested what he described as the report's
claims that China is projecting power to ensure access to
resources and enforce claims to disputed territories, as well
as the report's "irresponsible remarks about China's naval
strategy."  The report has "seriously violated" the norms
guiding international relations and the three Sino-U.S. joint
communiques and undermined both the overall bilateral
relationship and strategic trust between our two countries,
Zheng stated.

POINT TWO: CHINA'S DEVELOPMENT "PEACEFUL"
-----------------------------------------

¶5. (C) China's adheres to a "peaceful development policy,"
Zheng continued, and will continue to pursue a security
policy that is defensive in nature.  China has all along been
"a strong force safeguarding peace and stability in Asia
Pacific and the world."

¶6. (C) Zheng advised that China is a sovereign country with
22,000 km of land borders and also 18,000 km of coastline.
To safeguard national security and territorial integrity,
China needs to continue its defense buildup.  "This is the
solemn right and responsibility for any sovereign country in

BEIJING 00000809  002 OF 003


the world."  China will not participate in any arms race, and
neither will it pose a threat to any country, Zheng declared.
It is "erroneous and unacceptable" for the United States to
continue the annual practice of using the report to
disseminate and spread the idea of a "China threat."

POINT THREE: TAIWAN
-------------------

¶7. (C) Zheng reminded the A/DCM that Taiwan is an
"inalienable part" of Chinese territory, and that recent
months have seen the steady improvement and development of
the cross-Strait relationship.  He recited the PRC mantra
that China will continue to strive for peaceful development
of cross-Strait relations on the basis of mutual trust,
putting aside disputes, seeking common ground, resolving
differences and win-win.  However, no matter how the Taiwan
Strait situation evolves, China will continue to uphold the
one-China principle, oppose Taiwan independence and oppose
firmly two Chinas or One China, One Taiwan.

¶8. (C) Zheng urged the United States to abide by its
commitments on Taiwan, adopt the one-China principle, observe
the three joint communiques, oppose Taiwan independence and
oppose Taiwan's participation in any international
organization in which statehood is required for membership.
He also urged the United States to stop selling arms to
Taiwan and stop official military contacts with Taiwan so as
not to hurt the peaceful development of cross-Strait
relations and U.S.-China relations.

POINT FOUR: CHINA IS LAW-ABIDING
--------------------------------

¶9. (C) Zheng claimed that China "upholds the principle of
resolving disputes through consultation and peaceful
negotiation on the basis of international law."  He urged the
United States to "have a clear understanding of China's
policy in this regard and rectify the erroneous practice of
making irresponsible remarks about China's tactics and
policies in dealing with territorial disputes with other
countries."  He claimed that issuing the report "hurts the
trust between China and other countries and creates problems
for peace and stability in the region."

POINT FIVE: NOT NOW, WE'RE DOING SO WELL!
-----------------------------------------

¶10. (C) Zheng complained that the report was issued "just
when we have had a relatively stable and good beginning with
the new U.S. administration."  He noted the upcoming
"high-level exchanges," including the meeting between our two
presidents, and said that the current state of relations "did
not come about easily and required hard work on both sides."

PERORATION: "ERADICATE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT"
-------------------------------------------

¶11. (C) Zheng said China urges the United States "to discard
Cold War mentality and biased opinion and view China's
foreign and defense policy in an objective and fair manner."
China calls on the United States to "stop making
irresponsible remarks that hurt mutual trust and cooperation,
and stop this practice of issuing the so-called military
power report."  China also urges the United States "to take
immediate actions to eradicate any negative impact on
relations as the result of this report.  In so doing, the
United States can reduce the damage done between our two
countries and our two militaries."

DCM RESPONDS
------------

¶12. (C) The A/DCM responded that the report is mandated by
the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 2000,
and that the report is intended to be factual, descriptive
and analytical.  It does not attempt to draw conclusions, he
said, but is intended to let the facts speak for themselves.
He noted that the report discusses weaknesses, as well as
strengths, of the PRC's military.

¶13. (C) U.S. policy seeks to establish a positive and
cooperative relationship with China, one in which we deepen
and strengthen our ties on issues of common interest and

BEIJING 00000809  003 OF 003


candidly address differences where they persist, the A/DCM
said.  He quoted Secretary Clinton's statement that "this is
not a one-way effort.  Much of what we will do depends on the
choices China makes about its future at home and abroad."

¶14. (C) The A/DCM reiterated that the United States welcomes
the rise of a stable, peaceful and prosperous China, and
encourages China to participate responsibly in world affairs
by taking on a greater share of the burden for the stability,
resilience and growth of the international system.  He noted
that despite the welcome development of China's routine
publication of defense white papers (the most recent being
China's National Defense in 2008 published on January 20,
2009), much more could be said by China about its build-up of
strategic nuclear and conventional capabilities.  China has
left unclear to the international community the purposes and
objectives of the PLA's evolving doctrine and capabilities.

¶15. (C) On the subject of Taiwan, the A/DCM restated U.S.
policy by declaring that the United States remains committed
to our one China policy based on the three joint communiques
and the Taiwan Relations Act.   He said the United States
does not support Taiwan independence and believes that
cross-Strait issues should be resolved peacefully in a manner
acceptable to people on both sides of the Strait, and opposes
unilateral actions by either side to alter the status quo
across the Strait.  He took the opportunity to urge China to
work towards a peaceful resolution of its differences with
Taiwan.  He reminded Zheng that we make defense articles
available to Taiwan to allow it to maintain a credible
defense as provided for in the Taiwan Relations Act, and
urged China to reduce military deployments aimed at Taiwan
and to pursue a peaceful resolution of cross-Strait issues.

¶16. (C) Showing a bit more spark, Zheng said the United
States should recognize that it is "only a member of the
international community" and should follow the norms of
international relations and respect territorial sovereignty
and integrity.  He said that the United States should look at
China's "legitimate defense buildup" in an objective and fair
manner, and discard its Cold War mentality and zero-sum
perception of China-U.S. relations.  He protested that the
Taiwan Relations Act is "a unilateral piece of U.S.
legislation.  The three communiques signed by the United
States constitute the guiding principle for Taiwan policy,
not the TRA," he said.

关于美国侵犯我国专属经济区

2009-5-6

SUBJECT: PRC "OPPOSES" USNS VICTORIOUS PRESENCE IN CHINA'S EEZ

¶1. (C) Ministry of Foreign Affairs Director General for North
American and Oceanian Affairs Zheng Zeguang called the Charge
to meet for coffee May 6 and during that meeting expressed
"firm opposition" to the presence of the USNS Victorious in
China's Exclusive Economic Zone.  Referring to statements by
the U.S. Department of Defense Spokesman May 5, Zheng noted
that the United States had publicly referred to harassment of
the USNS Victorious by Chinese fishing vessels and had said
that the United States and China will handle the issue
through diplomatic channels.  Reading from several pages of
Chinese talking points, Zheng declared that it was "the
consistent position" of the PRC that ships carrying out
"scientific research" were subject to the UN Convention on
the Law of the Sea and Chinese law and regulations.  The
operations of the USNS Victorious, Zheng said, were in
violation of those laws and regulations because the USNS
Victorious was not granted permission to conduct its
activities in the EEZ.  China was firmly opposed to USNS
ships conducting activities in China's EEZ without
permission, and the United States should stop such activities
and prevent similar incidents in the future.

¶2. (C) Leaving his prepared script, Zheng stressed that it
was "in the interests of bilateral relations to handle these
cases through diplomatic channels."  He said that, in the
event of an incident, the diplomatic channel was "always
open."  Addressing this issue "through loudspeakers" was
"counterproductive, not constructive."  Because of the press
coverage of the U.S. remarks, the Chinese side was "obliged"
to react, Zheng said.  "From the reports, you can see it was
not the Chinese intention to have this kind of incident,"
Zheng added.

¶3. (C) Comment: The atmospherics, including Zheng's body
language and the setting of the demarche at a coffee shop
rather than a formal MFA meeting room, suggested that Zheng
wanted to play down the significance of the representation.
We believe the second set of points, in paragraph 2 above,
was the MFA's way of asking the United States to allow both
sides to finesse the EEZ issue by not publicizing encounters
between Chinese fishing boats and U.S. ships.

回复 9# long2ltoy


    本来就是来自美国驻中国大使馆的文件

维基解密本来就不是专门针对TG的，作为一个世界性大国，偶尔被涉及在所难免。
倒是之前有人装模作样“撂下话”，预言维基解密要针对TG的，现在影儿都没了，至于敏感成这个样子吗。
不涉及中国，就是忽视中国看不起中国，涉及中国就是反华，有这么自卑吗

维基解密本来就不是专门针对TG的，作为一个世界性大国，偶尔被涉及在所难免。
倒是之前有人装模作样“撂下话”，预言维基解密要针对TG的，现在影儿都没了，至于敏感成这个样子吗。
不涉及中国，就是忽视中国看不起中国，涉及中国就是反华，有这么自卑吗

回复 7# hxgs

接着翻2006-10-27

7. 在讨论“打击种族主义”时，会议的紧张气氛被缓解了。这个议题是由中方提出加到议程上的。据XXX所说，吴和沈列出了无数的发生在欧洲的种族主义的案例（。。这语气，哈哈）。欧盟方面没有否认或无视中方对此的评论（是赖不掉吧。。。）。XXX说，这给中方树立了好榜样（我勒个去。。。），并使会议气氛缓和。XXX说，中方“似乎意识到欧盟方面是真的在回应”他们对于种族主义的关注。

8. 关于器官摘除，吴说，“Tg大量摘除轮子成员的器官”的论断是粗暴无礼的，同时“许多美国人疯狂热衷于这个谎言”（哈，确实是）。他说在将来Tg可能把器官捐赠作为一个议题进行立法，或规章制度方面的讨论。据英国外交官XXX说，一位英国器官移植方面的医生，正在和Tg合作修订关于器官移植的法律。据称，新的条款规定
（1）公开服刑人员签署的同意捐赠器官的文件；
（2）禁止器官从中国流出到海外；
（3）鼓励中国公民自愿的器官捐赠；
（4）确立“脑死亡”标准；
（5）明确可进行器官移植手术的医院的审核程序。

9. Gronberg就九月三十日在Nangpa Pass发生的开枪打死XZ人的事件，要求Tg进行澄清并进行彻底调查。吴同意进行调查，并承诺一旦有了结果，就告诉欧盟方面。但是他傲慢地把此次事件称作“正常的边界防卫行为”，并告诉欧盟方面出席的人员，说他觉得他们国家的“边界守卫会做同样的事”。会谈前，欧盟人权官员向Tg提交了76个服刑人员的案例。其中11个案例，欧盟方面收到了明确答复，同时中方同意就其他案例给出答复。

10. 据欧盟代表团成员XXX说，在此轮对话中，中方与会者总的来说表现的比以前更加自信，甚至有时显得傲慢。一个表现就是，吴在若干次讨论中，干脆无视与他对话的欧盟代表（翻来覆去就那么几招，早烦了，有本事搞点新的，再搭理你）。据称，沈甚至嘲笑欧盟方面的一些意见（本来就可笑，偏偏某些人还不觉得）。沈抗议称Bern Process（这是嘛？）“冒犯中国尊严”。他说，欧盟必须退出Bern Process，就此对中方施压会产生不良后果。

11. 若干大使说他们已就Nangpa Pass枪击事件提出关切。加拿大大使说加政府曾就此事质询中国驻加大使，但是因中国外交部拒绝接见加驻中使馆官员而作罢（吃饱了撑的。。。）。据瑞典方面称，瑞典zf曾在10月12日向李zx提出此事。一个在XZ的瑞典代表团曾在10月16日向当地官员询问此事，地方官员称这事没听说过。据称，澳大利亚使馆上周曾就此事向中国外交部提交了一份demarche（？）。

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回复 17# smooth2008


    确实，目前基本是别国对Tg的观察，而且不是道听途说，就是泛泛之言，对Tg木啥影响。

对楼上的词汇量叹为观止~

如果内容都被猜到了，还能叫什么揭秘啊？
违纪揭秘有点像某种由女性从事的古老职业。

感谢xxj00701012网友翻译，这个XXX难道是某国线人？
:D

回复 7# hxgs

接着翻～
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12. 还是XZ那破事，其他国家分别表示要提出质询（质询你妹啊，不是统一回答了吗，干嘛一个一个还要问，干点正事不成啊），没劲不翻了。

13. 英国大使汇报了Canterbury大主教Rowan Williams近期对中国的访问。这是第三次有英国国教的住持一级访问中国。在10月19日的会面中，贾QL告诉主教，Tg近期第六次大会（the Central
Committee´s recent Sixth Plenum？六中全会吗？），会包含有史以来Tg最高级别的对于宗教在中国作用的积极评价。这份这个月通过的关于中国未来经济与社会发展的决议声明：“我们的不同宗教团体和无宗教信仰者之间的必须加强团结，使得宗教在推进和谐社会的过程中发挥积极作用。”贾告诉主教说：“宗教可以在中国建设和谐社会的努力中发挥重要作用”，然而，他同时强调这种作用必须“合法”。在于外交部部长助理孔泉的单独会谈中，孔对大主教说，DaLaiLaMa暗藏的目的是“ZD”。

14. 中欧人权对话仍会保持一年两次。

回复 22# hxgs


    估计是，也可能是MD外交官

回复 20# loafer003


    度娘的功劳～

现在你们都别在相信维基解密了，已经被美国控制住了，维基解密发出来的消息都是美国同意的。现在爆料叙利亚了，估计叙利亚也要被美国搞变天了。

回复 26# 对抗外星生物
有这个可能，阿桑奇不是承认他们编辑过吗？这就有问题了，因为除了美国人外，谁也没有看过全部25万份外交电报，只要美国人保持沉默，其他人当然就只能相信wikileaks了。
:D

我主要还是对TG内部如何运作那份电文很感兴趣。
:D

没有人回复，继续等待。

XZ的事还真不少，这几天四川喇嘛又不太平了

一直都知道欧盟搞人权搞的很蛋痛，现在才知道有多蛋痛

阿桑奇手里那个二千客户资料还没爆料呢。

Bern Process 是一项由瑞士政府建议设立的让所有参与同中国政府进行人权对话的国家能相互沟通的平台，这些所谓的民主国家通过这个渠道进行协调，以制定一个统一的对华人权对话策略。嗯，基本上就是如此。

Bern Process 是一项由瑞士政府建议设立的让所有参与同中国政府进行人权对话的国家能相互沟通的平台，这些所谓的民主国家通过这个渠道进行协调，以制定一个统一的对华人权对话策略。嗯，基本上就是如此。

回复 33# paulyang
感谢科普。

“但是因中国外交部拒绝接见加驻中使馆官员而作罢”
哥笑晕。

回复 35# ygqjyf88
什么事情？

挺正常的谈判

绝大多数网民的认知一般仅限于网上吵架，他们既没有参加过什么正经的商务谈判，对于外交谈判就更不了解

回复 9# long2ltoy

大哥难道您不知道维基解密和维基百科的区别吗？！

维基解密main page里边中国词条可信度有多大？好像提到一个叫姜维平的人。


维基解密main page里边中国词条可信度有多大？好像提到一个叫姜维平的人。

违纪解密好像是服务于西方资本的吧，指哪就是要乱哪