F-35B昨日被盖茨判缓刑,2018轰炸机起死回生

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大家被四代搞的太HIGH了吧,这么重要的信息居然到现在还没人发?

航空周刊的头条,盖茨发话了,LRIP IV-IX批被大幅削减,B型被判死缓,这缓刑还是马晕将领孤注一掷争取来的。归纳一下要点,问题重重的B型将和相对顺利的A/C剥离,试飞计划将做重大调整,SVTOL型号的优先级被从第一降到第三,F-35B的整个动力系统可能将进行重新设计。LRIP IV 将只采购3架B型,V,VI批也只有各六架。月经队明年IOC的牛皮终于彻底破产了

与此同时,新轰炸机起死回生,可能是一种比较传统的设计......USAF对USMC的这一仗赢的漂亮

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/g ... amp;channel=defense

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has put the U.S. Marine Corps’ troubled F-35B short-takeoff-and-vertical landing (Stovl) Joint Strike Fighter on “probation,” while endorsing the U.S. Air Force’s long-coveted new bomber program.

The F-35A and F-35C models emerged unscathed from Gates’ review. However, the F-35B “is experiencing significant testing problems,” Gates said at the Pentagon Jan. 6.

Implying that problems are more serious than previously reported, he adds that “these issues may lead to a redesign of the aircraft’s structure and propulsion — changes that could add yet more weight and more cost to an aircraft that has little capacity to absorb more of either.”

The JSF test program will be restructured so that testing of the F-35A and F-35C runs ahead of the B model, rather than the other way around. If the B model cannot be “fixed or gotten back on track” in two years, “I believe it should be canceled,” Gates says.

Gates’ comments came during a press conference announcing a series of budget efficiencies designed to cut or redirect more than $150 billion from current Defense Department spending over the next five years.

Delays to F-35B testing so far — fewer than a dozen vertical landings have been logged since March 2010 — have been publicly attributed to a problem with the auxiliary engine inlet door, and individually minor issues with components such as cooling fans.

More details of changes to the JSF program also emerged, including another delay in the completion of systems development and demonstration (SDD) and a cut-down production ramp. SDD is now delayed to early 2016, versus mid-2015 as planned in the restructuring of the program early last year. SDD finishes with the conclusion of development testing and precedes initial operational testing and evaluation, so the move likely will push initial operational capability (IOC) into 2017. (The individual services are assessing their IOC dates.) This will cost an additional $4.6 billion to the program.

The Fiscal 2012 JSF buy — low-rate initial production (LRIP) Lot V — will be held at 32 aircraft, both to reduce concurrency and because “the final assembly process at Fort Worth is still maturing,” Gates says. Deliveries at this point are late by multiple months.

In Fiscal 2013 and later, deliveries will ramp up by a factor of roughly 1.5 per year, for a total of 325 aircraft through LRIP IX (on contract in 2016 and delivered by 2018) versus 449 in the previous plan.

The LRIP IV contract, just signed, will be changed to eliminate all but three Stovl aircraft. The U.S. will buy only six Stovl aircraft in each of the next two LRIP Lots (V and VI), regarded as the minimum needed to sustain the supplier base and unique skills.

Gates indicated in response to questions that a last-ditch appeal by Marine Commandant Gen. James Amos and his predecessor may have saved the B-model from outright cancellation. Gates said the commandants made a convincing argument for more time to fix the program.

The Navy also plans to acquire more Super Hornets and extend the structural life of 150 “classic” Hornets as a hedge against late JSF deliveries. The service will buy 41 more F/A-18s in Fiscal 2012-14.

Meanwhile, in a major breakthrough for advocates of long-distance airpower, Gates strongly endorsed a program for “a new long-range, nuclear-capable penetrating bomber.” The Air Force has been struggling to get this program reinstated since Gates deferred development of the so-called “2018 bomber” in 2009, against the opposition of some senior Pentagon leaders who argued that smaller unmanned aircraft, plus cruise and ballistic missiles, could adequately supplement existing bombers in the foreseeable future.

Gates also announced decisions on a number of controversial aspects of the new aircraft. It will be nuclear-capable — some had argued for this, on the grounds that radiation-hardening is relatively inexpensive at the design stage and costly to retrofit, while others had opposed it because it brings the bomber within the scope of arms-control discussions. Gates also says that it would be “optionally” piloted rather than unmanned, and that it would make use of existing technologies to speed development.

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大家被四代搞的太HIGH了吧,这么重要的信息居然到现在还没人发?

航空周刊的头条,盖茨发话了,LRIP IV-IX批被大幅削减,B型被判死缓,这缓刑还是马晕将领孤注一掷争取来的。归纳一下要点,问题重重的B型将和相对顺利的A/C剥离,试飞计划将做重大调整,SVTOL型号的优先级被从第一降到第三,F-35B的整个动力系统可能将进行重新设计。LRIP IV 将只采购3架B型,V,VI批也只有各六架。月经队明年IOC的牛皮终于彻底破产了

与此同时,新轰炸机起死回生,可能是一种比较传统的设计......USAF对USMC的这一仗赢的漂亮

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/g ... amp;channel=defense

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has put the U.S. Marine Corps’ troubled F-35B short-takeoff-and-vertical landing (Stovl) Joint Strike Fighter on “probation,” while endorsing the U.S. Air Force’s long-coveted new bomber program.

The F-35A and F-35C models emerged unscathed from Gates’ review. However, the F-35B “is experiencing significant testing problems,” Gates said at the Pentagon Jan. 6.

Implying that problems are more serious than previously reported, he adds that “these issues may lead to a redesign of the aircraft’s structure and propulsion — changes that could add yet more weight and more cost to an aircraft that has little capacity to absorb more of either.”

The JSF test program will be restructured so that testing of the F-35A and F-35C runs ahead of the B model, rather than the other way around. If the B model cannot be “fixed or gotten back on track” in two years, “I believe it should be canceled,” Gates says.

Gates’ comments came during a press conference announcing a series of budget efficiencies designed to cut or redirect more than $150 billion from current Defense Department spending over the next five years.

Delays to F-35B testing so far — fewer than a dozen vertical landings have been logged since March 2010 — have been publicly attributed to a problem with the auxiliary engine inlet door, and individually minor issues with components such as cooling fans.

More details of changes to the JSF program also emerged, including another delay in the completion of systems development and demonstration (SDD) and a cut-down production ramp. SDD is now delayed to early 2016, versus mid-2015 as planned in the restructuring of the program early last year. SDD finishes with the conclusion of development testing and precedes initial operational testing and evaluation, so the move likely will push initial operational capability (IOC) into 2017. (The individual services are assessing their IOC dates.) This will cost an additional $4.6 billion to the program.

The Fiscal 2012 JSF buy — low-rate initial production (LRIP) Lot V — will be held at 32 aircraft, both to reduce concurrency and because “the final assembly process at Fort Worth is still maturing,” Gates says. Deliveries at this point are late by multiple months.

In Fiscal 2013 and later, deliveries will ramp up by a factor of roughly 1.5 per year, for a total of 325 aircraft through LRIP IX (on contract in 2016 and delivered by 2018) versus 449 in the previous plan.

The LRIP IV contract, just signed, will be changed to eliminate all but three Stovl aircraft. The U.S. will buy only six Stovl aircraft in each of the next two LRIP Lots (V and VI), regarded as the minimum needed to sustain the supplier base and unique skills.

Gates indicated in response to questions that a last-ditch appeal by Marine Commandant Gen. James Amos and his predecessor may have saved the B-model from outright cancellation. Gates said the commandants made a convincing argument for more time to fix the program.

The Navy also plans to acquire more Super Hornets and extend the structural life of 150 “classic” Hornets as a hedge against late JSF deliveries. The service will buy 41 more F/A-18s in Fiscal 2012-14.

Meanwhile, in a major breakthrough for advocates of long-distance airpower, Gates strongly endorsed a program for “a new long-range, nuclear-capable penetrating bomber.” The Air Force has been struggling to get this program reinstated since Gates deferred development of the so-called “2018 bomber” in 2009, against the opposition of some senior Pentagon leaders who argued that smaller unmanned aircraft, plus cruise and ballistic missiles, could adequately supplement existing bombers in the foreseeable future.

Gates also announced decisions on a number of controversial aspects of the new aircraft. It will be nuclear-capable — some had argued for this, on the grounds that radiation-hardening is relatively inexpensive at the design stage and costly to retrofit, while others had opposed it because it brings the bomber within the scope of arms-control discussions. Gates also says that it would be “optionally” piloted rather than unmanned, and that it would make use of existing technologies to speed development.

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呵呵,史上最大,最昂贵的,最拖沓的项目了吧。

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国防部负责风险评估的真实太失职了...............
估计最低延迟个6年,

或者更长的时间........

整个可研报告的风险评估太跌眼镜了。
楼主的信息很有价值
介个是个大笑话
楼主这个帖子把好些人的脸打的好肿
有超级航母的国家弄什么B型,海军陆战队太贪婪了。
b-2018又回来了? USAF真是预算劫匪
这也是黑丝逼的


不过空军若弄新轰炸机,那么F-35A的必要性也非常值得怀疑,至少重要性是非常大幅度的下降,海军X47B若概念得到检验,F-35C也会变成无关痛痒的玩意儿。
F-35那个“大肚子”,事实上也容不下什么“大炸弹”。

F-35可能成为忽悠一大堆人装备,自己象征性装点的史上最大钓鱼工程。

不过空军若弄新轰炸机,那么F-35A的必要性也非常值得怀疑,至少重要性是非常大幅度的下降,海军X47B若概念得到检验,F-35C也会变成无关痛痒的玩意儿。
F-35那个“大肚子”,事实上也容不下什么“大炸弹”。

F-35可能成为忽悠一大堆人装备,自己象征性装点的史上最大钓鱼工程。
盖茨同志要在卸任返回组织前完成对MD最后致命一击,为祖国献礼
那2020年前会装备吗?
X47C 发表于 2011-1-7 21:53


    F35那个研究作秀了这么多年还没下蛋的东西不是马扁银子的那是什么啊。米蒂又不是智商下限的国家,现在T50和J20一出来,那个东西撑不住了,只好撕破脸皮搞自己需要的东西了。至于投资者,米蒂才不管呢
回复 7# X47C


    不关他们的事,元老院才是,居然想一锅都烩了
一海兵队真敢腆着脸要呀!
神棍一下
F35B下馬
F35A 少量生產自用 對外騙錢計劃不變
F35C 正常生產 [因為F22上不到艦]
F22重開生產
最近乐趣多,好多人被不停的新闻和事实打脸
这简直是,当初为啥搞个垂直起降啊,花了这么多钱。。。。。
damo56030 发表于 2011-1-7 22:17


    当初米蒂优势太大鸟。所以现在乐趣就大鸟
flyrathabu 发表于 2011-1-7 22:20


    当初球电为垂直起降做了那么多妥协,白玩了。。。。。。

除了告诉大家,一机三型连美国也玩不转。。。。。
要是没SVTOL这个型号要求,F35也许{:3_81:}
今天看新闻说是要裁军,之后又说F35要是不能解决问题就会被下马,当时我就乐了:美国终于撑不住了。
还有没有可能把F-35改回中型空优四代啊,完全4S性能的
还不如启动F-22B
解放军席卷亚洲 发表于 2011-1-7 22:29


    还个新闻,米蒂要改进F22,有意向重开生产线
你觉得有必要继续烂钱进去么?
解放军席卷亚洲 发表于 2011-1-7 22:29


    哪个掏钱{:3_85:}
挂幌子 发表于 2011-1-7 22:00
+1  远征战车也给砍了  观海同志的御用打手都快被盖茨这个共谍给整废了
奥观海:住手  我也是地下党
英国悲剧了
回复 24# 解放军席卷亚洲


    那就相当于从F111B海猪到F14,其实,如果是冷战,美国还真能做到
萝卜特耐吃立功了,不要给F-35B任何机会
F-35B被干掉是正常的,那玩意对海军陆战队来说就是个有了更好,没有也能凑合的东西,而且英国人也退出了。
买更多的超级大黄蜂就意味着更少的F-35C,当然如果B型被取消,陆战队也采用C型的话,总量还能增加。
2018轰炸机很可能会成为下一个资金黑洞,看看以前的B-2、A-12就清楚。
最后,装备轻型航母的小国想凭借F-35B在今后20年内挑战大中型航母的美梦也该醒了。
淸水 发表于 2011-1-7 22:38


  英國是買C型
回复 33# 神原優月


    本来是买B的,航母都设计好了,现在得换,不过在航母设计时英国就已经做好了相应准备,
话说我真希望电磁弹射能不那么顺利,这样我就能看着F35C用滑板的英姿了
damo56030 发表于 2011-1-7 22:54


    也可能更糟的消息,那样世界就有得看了
schliffen 发表于 2011-1-7 21:22

md以前没危机感,想玩个慢工出细活,现在好了,现实威胁摆在眼前一下子现实多了,赶紧甩了b型这个累赘先把空海军型尽快量产,战略大调整啊,丝带这次亮相不知是好事还是坏事…
{:qiliang:}看来是我out了
回复 36# pinkett


    嘿嘿,我现在发现了一件事,当初美国在X32和X35大战的时候,X35的最大优势就是垂直起降型号和其他型号之间改动量小。。。。。。但现在看,改动也不小。。。。。。

而更重要的是,现在的球电和当初的X35比肥了一圈吧,我回头看了看X32这个大蛤蟆,突然发觉X32是带了弹仓的,而X35则没有这玩意。。。。。。

现在想来,其实X32虽然跌跌撞撞,但其实就预研来说更加充分的展示了JSF未来的困难性。。。。

可惜大家都被骡马这个老牌军火商的X35在三个构型之间的通用性上的表现吸引了,全然忘了内弹仓加入和大内油的增肥效果
邪恶的芋头 发表于 2011-1-7 22:32

欧巴马在为medical care攒钱呢!

但是净拿军工开刀好吗?能降失业率吗?不过少欠些债也好....
有美帝的F35垫在前头,某飞终于可以骄傲的说,偶烂尾也烂的符合国际潮流哇:D
lava_fish 发表于 2011-1-7 22:45

赞同。如果说月经队要求灰机要垂直起降还有点合理性的话,那要求隐身纯粹吃饱了撑的。等你上阵高价值高风险目标早就让海空军消灭光了。。。弄个炸弹卡车高强度火力压制是正经。。。