平可夫杯具了 毛5的RCS高达0.5平米

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平可夫杯具了 毛5的RCS高达0.5平米

印度媒体披露,印度空军高官亲眼目的了毛5, 毛子自吹毛5在雷达面前几乎完全隐形,RCS只有0.5平方米:D

平可夫大师对5代机的定义是RCS不得超过0.0001平米, 不知道毛5杯具还是平大师杯具, 狗把主人咬了:L


India, Russia close to PACT on next generation fighter
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi January 05, 2010, 0:38 IST


Late last year, a defence ministry delegation to Sukhoi’s flagship aircraft facility in Siberia became the first Indians to set eyes upon the next-generation fighter that is slated to form the backbone of the future Indian Air Force (IAF). In that first meeting, carefully choreographed by Sukhoi, the new fighter, standing on the tarmac waved a welcome to the Indians, moving all its control fins simultaneously.
The effect, recounts one member of that delegation, was electric. The senior IAF officer there walked silently up to the aircraft and touched it almost incredulously. This was the Sukhoi T-50, the first technology demonstrator of what India terms the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA). Senior defence ministry sources tell Business Standard that — after five years of haggling over the FGFA’s form, capabilities and work-share — a detailed contract on joint development is just around the corner.
The contract, which Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will sign with Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), will commit to building 250 fighters for the IAF and an equal number for Russia. The option for further orders will be kept open. HAL and UAC will be equal partners in a joint venture company, much like the Brahmos JV, that will develop and manufacture the FGFA.
The cost of developing the FGFA, which would be shared between both countries, will be $8-10 billion (Rs 37,000-45,000 crore). Over and above that, say IAF and defence ministry sources, each FGFA will cost Rs 400-500 crore.
Sukhoi’s FGFA prototype, which is expected to make its first flight within weeks, is a true stealth aircraft, almost invisible to enemy radar. According to a defence ministry official, “It is an amazing looking aircraft. It has a Radar Cross Section (RCS) of just 0.5 square metre as compared to the Su-30MKI’s RCS of about 20 square metres.”
[That means that while a Su-30MKI would be as visible to enemy radar as a metal object 5 metres X 4 metres in dimension, the FGFA’s radar signature would be just 1/40th of that.]
A key strength of the 30-35 tonne FGFA would be data fusion; the myriad inputs from the fighter’s infrared, radar, and visual sensors would be electronically combined and fed to the pilots in easy-to-read form.
The FGFA partnership was conceived a decade ago, in 2000, when Sukhoi’s celebrated chief, Mikhail Pogosyan, invited a visiting Indian Air Force officer out to dinner in Moscow. Boris Yeltsin’s disastrous presidency had just ended, and Russia’s near bankruptcy was reflected in the run-down condition of a once-famous restaurant. But, as the IAF officer recounts, the vodka was flowing and Pogosyan was in his element, a string of jokes translated by a female interpreter.
Late that evening Pogosyan turned serious, switching the conversation to a secret project that, officially, did not even exist. Sukhoi, he confided to the IAF officer, had completed the design of a fifth generation fighter, as advanced as America’s F-22 Raptor, which is still the world’s foremost fighter. Russia’s economy was in tatters, but Sukhoi would develop its new, high-tech fighter if India partnered Russia, sharing the costs of developing the fighter at Sukhoi’s plant, Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Organisation (KnAAPO).
Reaching out to India was logical for Russia. During the 1990s — when thousands of Russian military design bureaus starved for funds, and a bankrupt Moscow cancelled 1,149 R&D projects — India’s defence purchases had kept Russia’s defence industry alive, bankrolling the development of the Sukhoi-30 fighter; the Talwar-class stealth frigates; the Uran and Klub ship-borne missiles; and the MiG-21 upgrade.
But co-developing a fifth generation fighter is a different ball game, financially and technologically, and India’s MoD hesitated to sign up. Meanwhile enriched by hydrocarbon revenues, Moscow gave Sukhoi the green light to develop the FGFA, which Russia terms the PAK-FA, the acronym for Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsy (literally Prospective Aircraft Complex of Frontline Aviation).
Today, Russia is five years into the development of the FGFA. In November 2007, India and Russia signed an Inter-Governmental Agreement on co-developing the fighter, but it has taken two more years to agree upon common specifications, work shares in development, and in resolving issues like Intellectual Property Rights (IPR).
The prototype that Sukhoi has built is tailored to Russian Air Force requirements. But the IAF has different specifications and the JV will cater for both air forces, producing two different, but closely related, aircraft. For example, Russia wants a single-seat fighter; the IAF, happy with the Su-30MKI, insists upon a twin-seat fighter with one pilot flying and the other handling the sensors, networks and weaponry.
Negotiations have resolved even this fundamental conflict. India has agreed to buy a mix of about 50 single-seat and 200 twin-seat aircraft. Russia, in turn, will consider buying more twin-seat aircraft to use as trainers. But even as both countries narrow their differences, fresh challenges lie ahead: preparing India’s nascent aerospace industry for the high-tech job of developing and manufacturing a fifth-generation fighter.
(This is the first of a two-part series on the IAF’s fifth-generation fighter)
(Part II: FGFA negotiating hardball: Russia says India brings little to the table)


http://wap.business-standard.com ... 5&autono=381718平可夫杯具了 毛5的RCS高达0.5平米

印度媒体披露,印度空军高官亲眼目的了毛5, 毛子自吹毛5在雷达面前几乎完全隐形,RCS只有0.5平方米:D

平可夫大师对5代机的定义是RCS不得超过0.0001平米, 不知道毛5杯具还是平大师杯具, 狗把主人咬了:L


India, Russia close to PACT on next generation fighter
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi January 05, 2010, 0:38 IST


Late last year, a defence ministry delegation to Sukhoi’s flagship aircraft facility in Siberia became the first Indians to set eyes upon the next-generation fighter that is slated to form the backbone of the future Indian Air Force (IAF). In that first meeting, carefully choreographed by Sukhoi, the new fighter, standing on the tarmac waved a welcome to the Indians, moving all its control fins simultaneously.
The effect, recounts one member of that delegation, was electric. The senior IAF officer there walked silently up to the aircraft and touched it almost incredulously. This was the Sukhoi T-50, the first technology demonstrator of what India terms the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA). Senior defence ministry sources tell Business Standard that — after five years of haggling over the FGFA’s form, capabilities and work-share — a detailed contract on joint development is just around the corner.
The contract, which Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will sign with Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), will commit to building 250 fighters for the IAF and an equal number for Russia. The option for further orders will be kept open. HAL and UAC will be equal partners in a joint venture company, much like the Brahmos JV, that will develop and manufacture the FGFA.
The cost of developing the FGFA, which would be shared between both countries, will be $8-10 billion (Rs 37,000-45,000 crore). Over and above that, say IAF and defence ministry sources, each FGFA will cost Rs 400-500 crore.
Sukhoi’s FGFA prototype, which is expected to make its first flight within weeks, is a true stealth aircraft, almost invisible to enemy radar. According to a defence ministry official, “It is an amazing looking aircraft. It has a Radar Cross Section (RCS) of just 0.5 square metre as compared to the Su-30MKI’s RCS of about 20 square metres.”
[That means that while a Su-30MKI would be as visible to enemy radar as a metal object 5 metres X 4 metres in dimension, the FGFA’s radar signature would be just 1/40th of that.]
A key strength of the 30-35 tonne FGFA would be data fusion; the myriad inputs from the fighter’s infrared, radar, and visual sensors would be electronically combined and fed to the pilots in easy-to-read form.
The FGFA partnership was conceived a decade ago, in 2000, when Sukhoi’s celebrated chief, Mikhail Pogosyan, invited a visiting Indian Air Force officer out to dinner in Moscow. Boris Yeltsin’s disastrous presidency had just ended, and Russia’s near bankruptcy was reflected in the run-down condition of a once-famous restaurant. But, as the IAF officer recounts, the vodka was flowing and Pogosyan was in his element, a string of jokes translated by a female interpreter.
Late that evening Pogosyan turned serious, switching the conversation to a secret project that, officially, did not even exist. Sukhoi, he confided to the IAF officer, had completed the design of a fifth generation fighter, as advanced as America’s F-22 Raptor, which is still the world’s foremost fighter. Russia’s economy was in tatters, but Sukhoi would develop its new, high-tech fighter if India partnered Russia, sharing the costs of developing the fighter at Sukhoi’s plant, Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Organisation (KnAAPO).
Reaching out to India was logical for Russia. During the 1990s — when thousands of Russian military design bureaus starved for funds, and a bankrupt Moscow cancelled 1,149 R&D projects — India’s defence purchases had kept Russia’s defence industry alive, bankrolling the development of the Sukhoi-30 fighter; the Talwar-class stealth frigates; the Uran and Klub ship-borne missiles; and the MiG-21 upgrade.
But co-developing a fifth generation fighter is a different ball game, financially and technologically, and India’s MoD hesitated to sign up. Meanwhile enriched by hydrocarbon revenues, Moscow gave Sukhoi the green light to develop the FGFA, which Russia terms the PAK-FA, the acronym for Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Frontovoi Aviatsy (literally Prospective Aircraft Complex of Frontline Aviation).
Today, Russia is five years into the development of the FGFA. In November 2007, India and Russia signed an Inter-Governmental Agreement on co-developing the fighter, but it has taken two more years to agree upon common specifications, work shares in development, and in resolving issues like Intellectual Property Rights (IPR).
The prototype that Sukhoi has built is tailored to Russian Air Force requirements. But the IAF has different specifications and the JV will cater for both air forces, producing two different, but closely related, aircraft. For example, Russia wants a single-seat fighter; the IAF, happy with the Su-30MKI, insists upon a twin-seat fighter with one pilot flying and the other handling the sensors, networks and weaponry.
Negotiations have resolved even this fundamental conflict. India has agreed to buy a mix of about 50 single-seat and 200 twin-seat aircraft. Russia, in turn, will consider buying more twin-seat aircraft to use as trainers. But even as both countries narrow their differences, fresh challenges lie ahead: preparing India’s nascent aerospace industry for the high-tech job of developing and manufacturing a fifth-generation fighter.
(This is the first of a two-part series on the IAF’s fifth-generation fighter)
(Part II: FGFA negotiating hardball: Russia says India brings little to the table)


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平大湿有的辩了:sleepy:
这文章说30mki有20平方米的RCS。。。。。。这是啥角度呀。

这文章说30mki有20平方米的RCS。。。。。。这是啥角度呀。
exiaoyu 发表于 2010-1-6 06:13


应该差不多吧,SU-27前向RCS15平米,SU-30MKI在前边还加了对翼,又是双座,比SU-27前向更高大,驾驶舱投影更大,估计也没做任何隐形处理,RCS提高到20平米
这文章说30mki有20平方米的RCS。。。。。。这是啥角度呀。
exiaoyu 发表于 2010-1-6 06:13


应该差不多吧,SU-27前向RCS15平米,SU-30MKI在前边还加了对翼,又是双座,比SU-27前向更高大,驾驶舱投影更大,估计也没做任何隐形处理,RCS提高到20平米
平可夫脸皮厚;P
毛子的隐身做的真是够差的了。不知道咱们的丝带能达到什么水平?
给阿三展示的当然隐身不能太好了!否则毛子自己的怎么混啊?!!:D
给阿三展示的当然隐身不能太好了!否则毛子自己的怎么混啊?!!:D
毛5的RCS这么大?
不知道我们的能到多少
-18dbs?
这个都是有水分的东西!
F119韩国整容版 发表于 2010-1-6 01:54
不是毛五悲剧了,是阿三的毛五悲剧了!!:D而偶大毛国自用的自然比这隐身好很多!:victory:
HAL's share in the FGFA variant of PAK-FA to be 25% ----------------------------------------------------------------------阿三的毛五是毛子毛五的变形,这一变形,RCS指不定就啥样了!!:D
咱的还不知道能不能达到0.5rcs呢,哎
exiaoyu 发表于 2010-1-6 06:13


    挂武器后根本不止20
不知道平大湿本人的RCS值有多大啊?:D
放心,大湿会有办法滴!
毛子能搞出RCS0.5的战机?!!!
预言成真?毛子也就能搞搞三代半战机?悲剧呀!!!
平大师的脸就有20平米了...还附带300毫米的装甲.....
对大师的话认真你就输了!
平秃子只会放屁
毛子以后会跟阿3说,这个价钱就是0.5的,我们可以做更低的给你,前提就是加钱,再加1亿我们就能搞个0.4的。。。。。。再加就0.3
中国据说是一只天鹅。
不是有人泄尿说坚实是一排大雁,青蛙是一只天鹅。。。
天鹅好象也不小啊
当头一刀 发表于 2010-1-6 08:52


    又是一位毛国走狗   真歼八恶心
ch045001100 发表于 2010-1-6 12:17
你土鳖人动不动就拿这烂新闻就不恶心啦?:D
当头一刀 发表于 2010-1-6 12:21
你不会是那个大柚子的马甲吧,话说毛五的打赌,好像还没兑现了。
huch0 发表于 2010-1-6 12:24
不是预测上说误差1年吗?!:D
Su-27SE还没飞啊。
还真有人信啊{:wuyu:}
当头一刀 发表于 2010-1-6 12:30


    ;P误差一年,不是09年5月就飞了吗?;P要是10年还飞不起来您可咋办?
军用橙子 发表于 2010-1-6 12:35
09年5月飞的消息不是我放出来的!:D
当头一刀 发表于 2010-1-6 12:30

看来这个马甲是高度可疑哦
当头一刀 发表于 2010-1-6 12:40


    是e圣说的!那家伙现在无影无踪了。{:3_83:}
可夫同志会为毛子辩解的,大家放心吧。
我是来围观PKF大师的。。。
看看再说
leo-dg 发表于 2010-1-6 10:16

高,真高!
我觉得F22RCS也就0.1的水平


有个预感,最后出来的东西整体作战能力可能还不如“台风”{:3_78:}

有个预感,最后出来的东西整体作战能力可能还不如“台风”{:3_78:}