俄罗斯原创SOC处理器Elbrus 3S 核心发展进展--(更新：芯 ...

有意思，也是双核没出玩四核。你给的资料那里说了原生四核？

不过我就奇怪，他明年应该出8核CPU呀，应该是4核Elbrus＋4核DSP。跟龙3B一样。

就这水平，差我们远了。

我看过人家贴出的东西，Elbrus2007年出的单核，2010年出双核！所以我怀疑这个4核是怎么来的？

2007年底通过测试的是Elbrus 3M1 双核。

Elbrus 3M是单核 ( 交出的0.6T的准HPCs 就是这个核心）

Elbrus 3S是SOC系统，4核。

计划同时推出的6核推出六核推迟到明年



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Elbrus 1 (1973) was the first Soviet integrated circuit computer,[citation needed] and the first fourth generation Soviet computer, developed by Vsevolod Burtsev. Used tag-based architecture and ALGOL as system language like the Burroughs large systems. It was used by the Defense Ministry. A side development was an update of the 1965 BESM-6 as Elbrus-1K2.

Elbrus 2 (1977) was a 10-processor computer, considered the first Soviet supercomputer, with superscalar RISC processors. Re-implementation of the Elbrus 1 architecture with the fast ECL chips. It was used in the space program, nuclear weapons research, and defense systems.

Elbrus 3 (1986) was a 16-processor computer developed by Boris Babaian. Differing completely from the architecture of both Elbrus 1 and Elbrus 2, it employed VLIW architecture.

Elbrus 2000 or E2K was a vaporware project to implement Elbrus 3 architecture as a microprocessor.
The current SPARC-like systems have been developed from 1996 with the Elbrus-90micro and the company was formed under an agreement with Sun Microsystems in 1997. The company reported in 1998 the development of an innovative EPIC processor dubbed E2K by a team under Boris Babaian.

Elbrus-3M. Single-processor computer. It was used to test the new, VLIW/EPIC (Very Long Instruction Word/Explicitly Parallel Instruction Computing) type processor. This processor is based on MCST/Elbrus E2K (or Elbrus 2000) architecture. The Elbrus processor (300 MHz, power consumption < 5 W) is fabricated with 0.13 micrometre technology. It has 75 million transistors and it executes up to 23 instructions per clock cycle. Performance: 23.7 GIPS/2.4 GFLOPS (64 bits), 4.8 GFLOPS (32 bits). This processor is manufactured in Taiwan.

Elbrus-3M1 is the latest computer of MCST/Elbrus. It has two Elbrus processors. It can work in parallel (using high velocity connections) with others Elbrus computers. So, the Elbrus-3M1 could be used to build super computers. According to test results, the peak performance of the "Elbrus-3M1" computer is in the range of 11.6 GFLOPS to 45.2 GFLOPS, depending on the data format.

Elbrus-3S will be the next computer of MCST/Elbrus, projected 2009. It will have four VLIW/EPIC type Elbrus-S processors (500 MHz, 0.09 micrometre technology, system on a chip).

Microprocessor Elbrus-PF, projected 2011. 65 nm technology, 8 cores VLIW/EPIC processor. With the transition to 45 nm technology, this processor will have a clock frequency of 2 GHz and a performance of 8 TFLOPS. This processor will be used to build a supercomputer with PFLOPS performance.

2007年底通过测试的是Elbrus 3M1 双核。

Elbrus 3M是单核 ( 交出的0.6T的准HPCs 就是这个核心）

Elbrus 3S是SOC系统，4核。

计划同时推出的6核推出六核推迟到明年



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Elbrus 1 (1973) was the first Soviet integrated circuit computer,[citation needed] and the first fourth generation Soviet computer, developed by Vsevolod Burtsev. Used tag-based architecture and ALGOL as system language like the Burroughs large systems. It was used by the Defense Ministry. A side development was an update of the 1965 BESM-6 as Elbrus-1K2.

Elbrus 2 (1977) was a 10-processor computer, considered the first Soviet supercomputer, with superscalar RISC processors. Re-implementation of the Elbrus 1 architecture with the fast ECL chips. It was used in the space program, nuclear weapons research, and defense systems.

Elbrus 3 (1986) was a 16-processor computer developed by Boris Babaian. Differing completely from the architecture of both Elbrus 1 and Elbrus 2, it employed VLIW architecture.

Elbrus 2000 or E2K was a vaporware project to implement Elbrus 3 architecture as a microprocessor.
The current SPARC-like systems have been developed from 1996 with the Elbrus-90micro and the company was formed under an agreement with Sun Microsystems in 1997. The company reported in 1998 the development of an innovative EPIC processor dubbed E2K by a team under Boris Babaian.

Elbrus-3M. Single-processor computer. It was used to test the new, VLIW/EPIC (Very Long Instruction Word/Explicitly Parallel Instruction Computing) type processor. This processor is based on MCST/Elbrus E2K (or Elbrus 2000) architecture. The Elbrus processor (300 MHz, power consumption < 5 W) is fabricated with 0.13 micrometre technology. It has 75 million transistors and it executes up to 23 instructions per clock cycle. Performance: 23.7 GIPS/2.4 GFLOPS (64 bits), 4.8 GFLOPS (32 bits). This processor is manufactured in Taiwan.

Elbrus-3M1 is the latest computer of MCST/Elbrus. It has two Elbrus processors. It can work in parallel (using high velocity connections) with others Elbrus computers. So, the Elbrus-3M1 could be used to build super computers. According to test results, the peak performance of the "Elbrus-3M1" computer is in the range of 11.6 GFLOPS to 45.2 GFLOPS, depending on the data format.

Elbrus-3S will be the next computer of MCST/Elbrus, projected 2009. It will have four VLIW/EPIC type Elbrus-S processors (500 MHz, 0.09 micrometre technology, system on a chip).

Microprocessor Elbrus-PF, projected 2011. 65 nm technology, 8 cores VLIW/EPIC processor. With the transition to 45 nm technology, this processor will have a clock frequency of 2 GHz and a performance of 8 TFLOPS. This processor will be used to build a supercomputer with PFLOPS performance.

SOFTWARE "Elbrus"

Operating Systems

For VC Elbrus architecture and Sparc are created, maintained and constantly evolving three operating systems interface with Unix (Posix):

OC Elbrus90 (OS_E90) from the "GCO Elbrus-90" for VC Elbrus-90mikro;

OS Elbrus (OSL) in two versions - OSL_3M1 for Elbrus-3M1 and OSL_90 for Elbrus-90mikro;
OS WSWS in two variants - MSVS3M1, with the nucleus OSL_3M1, and MSVS90 kernel OSL_90.

The original architecture Elbrus required the development of original interrupt control mechanisms, processes, virtual memory, signals, synchronization, Tagged calculations - for virtually all the basic mechanisms of the OS.

OS_E90 and OSL_3M1 support the work and in real time (PB). Support tools are integrated PB and OS MSVS3M1. For the regime PB has developed its own implementation of posix library (pthread) for flow control and synchronization.

For all operating systems developed by a large set of special drivers and implemented tool for organizing multicomputer systems based on the use of special equipment.

In OSL_3M1 developed a means to support secure computing on Tagged architecture Elrus-3M1. These tools are integrated and MSVS3M1.

OS_E90, MSVS90 and MSVS3M provide protection against unauthorized access and certificates of RF MoD on the second level of control.

OS_E90 pass the test in the late 90's and has been successfully operating in the Elbrus-90mikro.

Currently operated and VC with OSL_90 and MSVS90.

MSVS3M1 (kernel OSL_3M1) passed the test in November 2007 in all respects and is ready for operation in full.

Computing complex "Elbrus-3M1"

Dual-processor module VC "Elbrus-3M1" in the cPCI form factor for adjusting the stand. Computing complex "Elbrus-3M1" in server performance


Computing complex "Elbrus-3M1" is a high-performance multiprocessor computer system designed for operation in environments operatsionnnyh systems operating Elbrus (OSL) in the form OSL-3M1 and secure OSMVS variant MSVS3M1. VC "Elbrus-3M1" provides the multi-user, multitasking computing in real time.

Intended for use in fixed systems management of information processing.

Currently, VC "Elbrus-3M1" is performed in two versions of a design: a server version, also suitable for use as a desktop, and in the performance cPCI.

The basis of the server version of the calculator device HC 3M1. VC performance cPCI occupies two module format "Euromechanics&raquo; 6U. The equipment includes two performances VC networking equipment for high-speed exchanges with other VC or a similar type with other computer systems, as well as a number of interfaces parallel and serial type.

Necessary for the user front-ends can be provided with the inclusion of the EC at the request of the customer interface devices with external subscribers USVA-M. External callers can also be connected to USB and serial interfaces RS-232.

To the interface with external subscribers USVA-M through the cell MS19 connected interface device US19-M, which is a device with APD 5TS19 (hardware option).

System on Chip "Elbrus-S";
  

Integrated circuit "Elbrus-S&raquo; is a system on chip architecture VLIW, designed for high-performance single board computer for portable and embedded applications.

The main features of the system on a chip "Elbrus-S&raquo; are:

accommodation in the crystal sub-treatment in memory, including 2 memory controller, DDR2;

accommodation in the crystal means and channels of communication to build multi-complexes operating on shared memory;

use of a wide range of means to increase productivity;

execution of x86 binaries through dynamic compilation;

hardware support for secure computing (modular programming).

http://www.mcst.ru/8-9.htm
这里的Elbrus 3M1是两个单核组成的2CPU系统！怎么成双核了？3S就是没听过了?只见过一个人贴过2010年出双核的计划。

翻译上有出入.............( 吼吼......所谓Dual-processor 翻译成dual-core了:L )

由于Elbrus-3M这个特性， 所以2008造了100台准HPCs



至于Elbrus-3S参6楼.......Indeed Elbrus 3S will be taped out in 2009 and "microprocessor with 4 DSP cores" a year later.Now fpga-based prototype of Elbrus 3S passes all-around testing with OS and custom low-level tests. And a couple of monthes ago we've got a prototype for 2nd system. ...

.....
6核推迟了到2010。


具体细节需要进一步咨询...........


估计90nm 又是TSMC流的片............

http://www.mcst.ru/8-9.htm
这里的Elbrus 3M1是两个单核组成的2CPU系统！怎么成双核了？3S就是没听过了?只见过一个人贴过2010年出双核的计划。
123456d 发表于 2009-10-1 13:10

翻译上有出入.............( 吼吼......所谓Dual-processor 翻译成dual-core了:L )

由于Elbrus-3M这个特性， 所以2008造了100台准HPCs



至于Elbrus-3S参6楼.......Indeed Elbrus 3S will be taped out in 2009 and "microprocessor with 4 DSP cores" a year later.Now fpga-based prototype of Elbrus 3S passes all-around testing with OS and custom low-level tests. And a couple of monthes ago we've got a prototype for 2nd system. ...

.....
6核推迟了到2010。


具体细节需要进一步咨询...........


估计90nm 又是TSMC流的片............

应该不需要咨询了，2009年低设计完双核。才有2010年的所谓2核 Elbrus＋4DSP{:3_98:}

我看的资料是有人引用他们自己的资料计划2010年出双核的！

Elbrus-3S 是4核喔。

本来6核也是今年的， 推迟了。


这个俺比您清楚些的。



Elbrus 新系统已经在S-400防空导弹和工业计算中应用了。

那些DSP的核心，也交付了航空业多个系统。在空版帖子里有：

http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=687595

应该不需要咨询了，2009年低设计完双核。才有2010年的所谓2核 Elbrus＋4DSP{:3_98:}
123456d 发表于 2009-10-1 13:22

Elbrus-3S 是4核喔。

本来6核也是今年的， 推迟了。


这个俺比您清楚些的。



Elbrus 新系统已经在S-400防空导弹和工业计算中应用了。

那些DSP的核心，也交付了航空业多个系统。在空版帖子里有：

http://bbs.cjdby.net/viewthread.php?tid=687595

是4核就没必要搞什么2核Elbrus＋4DSP了，就是4核Elbrus＋4DSP的8核处理器，你真会开玩笑。

他们的计划。 9楼

我怎么知道啊。他们是设计师， 肯定有他们的理由.......这个没有什么好争议的:b



这是正在设计中的.............估计差不多了， 等待prototype测试.........

整合进去的单核DSP为 大于8Gflops/S。  4个核心+ 2个Elbrus S核心


（过去一段时间，一直被月色老师的惊人言论震惊中： 质问毛子能不能设计USB控制器...........;funk :L )

是4核就没必要搞什么2核Elbrus＋4DSP了，就是4核Elbrus＋4DSP的8核处理器，你真会开玩笑。
123456d 发表于 2009-10-1 13:28

他们的计划。 9楼

我怎么知道啊。他们是设计师， 肯定有他们的理由.......这个没有什么好争议的:b



这是正在设计中的.............估计差不多了， 等待prototype测试.........

整合进去的单核DSP为 大于8Gflops/S。  4个核心+ 2个Elbrus S核心


（过去一段时间，一直被月色老师的惊人言论震惊中： 质问毛子能不能设计USB控制器...........;funk :L )

毛子半導體就是跟TB有差距 別YY了

3698520147 发表于 2009-10-1 14:03

你这心态.........你了解多少？

能紧跟这个主题谈谈否？

讲点有内容的..........

Elbrus-3M1 is the latest computer of MCST/Elbrus. It has two Elbrus processors. It can work in parallel (using high velocity connections) with others Elbrus computers. So, the Elbrus-3M1 could be used to build super computers. According to test results, the peak performance of the "Elbrus-3M1" computer is in the range of 11.6 GFLOPS to 45.2 GFLOPS, depending on the data format.

双处理器，11.6G FLOPS到45.2GFLOPS的浮点性能，性能一般吧？

Elbrus-3S will be the next computer of MCST/Elbrus, projected 2009. It will have four VLIW/EPIC type Elbrus-S processors (500 MHz, 0.09 micrometre technology, system on a chip).

90纳米工艺，在09年来说真的落伍了点。

Microprocessor Elbrus-PF, projected 2011. 65 nm technology, 8 cores VLIW/EPIC processor. With the transition to 45 nm technology, this processor will have a clock frequency of 2 GHz with 64 gigaflops performance and a performance of 8 TFLOPS. This processor will be used to build a supercomputer with PFLOPS performance.

2011年实现65nm工艺的8核cpu。再进一步进化到45nm工艺，能实现2GHz的频率，64GFLOPS的浮点性能。那个8TFLOPS指的是整机性能？

64Glops 在贴的时候弄错了..............不应该再那个地方...............

双处理器，11.6G FLOPS到45.2GFLOPS的浮点性能，性能一般吧？


90纳米工艺，在09年来说真的落伍了点。


2011年实现65nm工艺的8核cpu。再进一步进化到45nm工艺，能实现2GHz的频率，64GFLOPS的浮点性能。那个 ...
gfish 发表于 2009-10-1 21:56

64Glops 在贴的时候弄错了..............不应该再那个地方...............

楼主要高清楚呀，苏联和毛子已经是两回事了！

JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2009-10-1 13:26 从你给的资料，没看出Elbrus-3S 是4核，怎么好像这个是4CPU的计算机系统！你清楚也没用！{:3_98:}

等出来后就知道啦

JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2009-10-1 22:56 你看这个帖子吧！
http://www.lemote.com/bbs/viewth ... mp;highlight=Elbrus

那个三楼是一样的信息阿。 另外一个楼的信息有待考证............看看出处在那里..........


还是等出来了在说.............有图了才有真相............

你看这个帖子吧！
http://www.lemote.com/bbs/viewth ... mp;highlight=Elbrus
123456d 发表于 2009-10-1 23:01

那个三楼是一样的信息阿。 另外一个楼的信息有待考证............看看出处在那里..........


还是等出来了在说.............有图了才有真相............

这里是它自己的资料是双核的：处理器是 Elbrus-S2，频率600M
http://www.espacial.org/miscelaneas/computacion/elbrus_mcst2.htm

上面的Elbrus-S是单核的，频率500MHZ，晶体管是9千万，比Elbrus-M的 7千5百万多一点！

几个月前就prototyped 2 轮了， 估计就定了吧.............

一个宣传9千万，一个2亿............俺目前也不知道哎

如果单核是8Gflos/S， 弄个假4核，封装在一起--32Gflops/S。


目前是真4核还是假4核， 不知道..............

等图........等最终产品.......

几个月前就prototyped 2 轮了， 估计就定了吧.............

一个宣传9千万，一个2亿............俺目前也不知道哎

如果单核是8Gflos/S， 弄个假4核，封装在一起--32Gflops/S。


目前是真4核还是假4核， 不知道..............

等图........等最终产品.......

{:3_98:}照你的说法：俄罗斯人太强大了，计划说改就改，设计说成功就成功！某芯4核是2005～2006年计划的，2008年底设计完（拖了半年），上个月才出来，测试非常不错。

{:3_98:}照你的说法：俄罗斯人太强大了，计划说改就改，设计说成功就成功！某芯4核是2005～2006年计划的，2008年底设计完（拖了半年），上个月才出来，测试非常不错。

123456d 发表于 2009-10-1 23:53


回答不了你。

嘿嘿，等呗。


等出来产品了就是答案了

俄罗斯人太不靠谱了，{:3_98:}

嘿嘿，

没钱，怎么考普呢。

去TSMC做小批量死人的.............


不过，最近梅德韦杰夫发彪了，估计钱来了。。。。。。。

再说，他们大部分人都是2004年后从学校毕业的..............

( 以前那将近500号人被某个人带到Intel去了。。。。。。。

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/bios/bbabayan.htm。）

俄罗斯人太不靠谱了，{:3_98:}
123456d 发表于 2009-10-2 00:02

嘿嘿，

没钱，怎么考普呢。

去TSMC做小批量死人的.............


不过，最近梅德韦杰夫发彪了，估计钱来了。。。。。。。

再说，他们大部分人都是2004年后从学校毕业的..............

( 以前那将近500号人被某个人带到Intel去了。。。。。。。

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/bios/bbabayan.htm。）

看来大国还是有明白人, 不是那麽多人愿意给美国握著 JJ.;P

某些憋粉一谈到毛机就爱考证是假滴,是次货,从JC一直咋呼到超大,天涯,就肚里那点货,又抖不出什么料{:2_74:}
本来就是消息发布,非得弄成口水帖,真没劲

哦，楼主把这个去年推出的成品资料贴出来吧，别是跳票了呀

national testing.........................

JSTCVW09CD 发表于 2010-3-30 22:38
我要的PPT呢?[:a5:]

usually 发表于 2010-3-30 20:27 根本就是LZ搞错了！两核的还没动静呢

楼主搞错了
两核都不是