三月十六日新闻两则

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第一条:阿三的P15A加尔各答号隐形驱逐舰下水三年了,因为没有泊位,现在还没有舾装上四个乌克兰的燃气轮机/飞行甲板/机库/鱼雷/导弹。阿三海军高层说现在保守预计新的交付期是2013年。龙骨是2003年9月铺的,原定2010年服役。阿三没有一个船坞足够大装下该舰。MDL船厂年得利12%。施工误期反而赚得更多。许可证制造的法国潜艇也进度落后。阿三的施礼瓦克号护卫舰现在因为米国政府的折腾,需要找意大利和德国的代理商帮忙完成燃气轮机的工程,起码误期九个月。阿三投巨资的以色列巴拉客NG导弹现在还没有试射过。

第二条:阿三政府又批条委任MDL船厂建造四艘加尔各答级的后续型P15B驱逐舰。加尔各答级预期从2010年起每年一艘加入咖喱国海军。

:D:D:D:D:D

Sorry, Mumbai has no berth for Kolkata
SUJAN DUTTA

http://www.telegraphindia.com/10 ... /story_10681349.jsp

New Delhi, March 16: The navy is all at sea because there is no room in Mumbai for Kolkata.

The INS Kolkata, the navy’s “stealth” guided-missile destroyer named after the Bengal capital, is floating -- unable to sail -- in the waters off the west coast metropolis.

Not a berth is available in the Mazagaon Docks where the INS Kolkata is to be moored so that it can be fitted with four gas turbines to propel it; given a landing deck and a hangar for two helicopters; armed with missiles and torpedoes to make it the most powerful warship of its class.

On schedule, the 6,700-tonne INS Kolkata would by now have been in a “hot start” mode with four Ukrainian M-36 Gas Turbine propulsion systems and ready for sea trials. Classified as Project 15Alpha, the INS Kolkata, the first of three in its class, would have “an updated weapons package and new-look exteriors and improved stealth (making it difficult to detect) and will be delivered beginning with the end of this decade”, says official literature distributed by the directorate of naval design.

But senior naval sources say a conservative delivery schedule envisages that the INS Kolkata will be ready only in 2013, at least three years after its deadline.

The INS Kolkata is not the only warship to be delayed. A parliamentary committee study has found that nearly all the stealth projects of the navy totalling worth more than Rs 19,000 crore are late. More than 30 ships and submarines are being built for the Indian Navy at home and overseas.

The INS Kolkata was “launched” three years ago. Its keel was laid in September 2003 when it was announced that it would be commissioned in 2010.

But now there is not a single shipyard in the country large enough to accommodate the INS Kolkata. Calcutta’s own Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers is too small to accommodate a destroyer. Even then, it has its berths full with orders for offshore and fast patrol boats and frigates.

In Mazagaon Docks (MDL), a senior naval officer told The Telegraph: “They do not have the manpower, design, capability, availability of berths, and the wherewithal to meet monthly targets -- simply put, there does not seem to be the will.”

He said MDL makes a 12 per cent profit in any case and cost overruns add to its revenues and all projects, including the strategic, licensed-from-the-French Scorpene submarine venture, are running behind schedule.

Worse, the INS Shivalik stealth frigate project has been hit by an insidious bombshell after the new Obama administration instructed GE to stop work on a pair of gas turbine engines on the ship under US laws.

The Indian Navy is now trying to work around the laws by drawing in consultants from Italy and Germany by using the defence public sector Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. The INS Shivalik is likely to be delayed by at least nine months.

The INS Kolkata is an advancement over the INS Delhi, the destroyer currently in service that also has the INS Mumbai and the INS Mysore in its class. The enhanced weapons package on the INS Kolkata will include twin-tube torpedo-launchers, anti-submarine rocket launchers, and 28 Long Range Surface to Air Missiles (LR-SAMs), possibly the Barak-NG (next generation).

The Barak-NG has run into a controversy itself with the CPM demanding that India should pull out of the joint venture project. A venture between India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation and the Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) for which the cabinet committee on security has committed at least Rs 10,000 crore, the Barak-NG or Barak-II ship missile defence system is yet to be tried and tested.

The Indian Navy has armed its vessels with the first generation of Barak missiles with which it claims it is satisfied.

In keeping with the new look that the city it is named after aspires for, the INS Kolkata has been given a sophisticated design that compares among the best of warships in its class.

Indian Naval Headquarters asked its designers to come up with a destroyer that can operate with fully integrated multi-function radar systems and, for the first time, 16 silos -- eight on each side -- capable of launching Brahmos supersonic cruise missiles.

Estimated to cost nearly Rs 8,500 crore, the INS Kolkata “will be capable of exerting sea-control in a multi-threat environment”, says Rear Admiral M.K. Budhwar, director-general of naval design.

http://www.militarium.eu/article.aspx?ID=1300

Govt approves Navy plans for four new warships

New Delhi, Mar 16 (PTI) The government has approved building of four new destroyer warships to bolster the Navy's strength. The follow-on orders for the new destroyers would be placed with Mumbai-based Mazagon Docks Limited (MDL) soon, top Navy sources said here today.

"The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) has last month given in-principle approval to the Navy's proposal for construction of four new Kolkata Class destroyers," sources said.

Codenamed "Project 15B", the new warships would be built after the MDL completed construction of the first three destroyers of the Kolkata Class under "Project 15A".

To be built with advanced stealth features, the four new warships will have land attack capabilities and would be fully indigenous.

"In all, the Navy has would have seven Kolkata Class destroyers," sources noted.

Currently, the Navy has three Delhi Class destroyers in its service and the Kolkata Class destroyers are expected to join the Navy one each every year beginning with 2010.

The MDL had begun construction of the Kolkata class ships beginning September 2003.第一条:阿三的P15A加尔各答号隐形驱逐舰下水三年了,因为没有泊位,现在还没有舾装上四个乌克兰的燃气轮机/飞行甲板/机库/鱼雷/导弹。阿三海军高层说现在保守预计新的交付期是2013年。龙骨是2003年9月铺的,原定2010年服役。阿三没有一个船坞足够大装下该舰。MDL船厂年得利12%。施工误期反而赚得更多。许可证制造的法国潜艇也进度落后。阿三的施礼瓦克号护卫舰现在因为米国政府的折腾,需要找意大利和德国的代理商帮忙完成燃气轮机的工程,起码误期九个月。阿三投巨资的以色列巴拉客NG导弹现在还没有试射过。

第二条:阿三政府又批条委任MDL船厂建造四艘加尔各答级的后续型P15B驱逐舰。加尔各答级预期从2010年起每年一艘加入咖喱国海军。

:D:D:D:D:D

Sorry, Mumbai has no berth for Kolkata
SUJAN DUTTA

http://www.telegraphindia.com/10 ... /story_10681349.jsp

New Delhi, March 16: The navy is all at sea because there is no room in Mumbai for Kolkata.

The INS Kolkata, the navy’s “stealth” guided-missile destroyer named after the Bengal capital, is floating -- unable to sail -- in the waters off the west coast metropolis.

Not a berth is available in the Mazagaon Docks where the INS Kolkata is to be moored so that it can be fitted with four gas turbines to propel it; given a landing deck and a hangar for two helicopters; armed with missiles and torpedoes to make it the most powerful warship of its class.

On schedule, the 6,700-tonne INS Kolkata would by now have been in a “hot start” mode with four Ukrainian M-36 Gas Turbine propulsion systems and ready for sea trials. Classified as Project 15Alpha, the INS Kolkata, the first of three in its class, would have “an updated weapons package and new-look exteriors and improved stealth (making it difficult to detect) and will be delivered beginning with the end of this decade”, says official literature distributed by the directorate of naval design.

But senior naval sources say a conservative delivery schedule envisages that the INS Kolkata will be ready only in 2013, at least three years after its deadline.

The INS Kolkata is not the only warship to be delayed. A parliamentary committee study has found that nearly all the stealth projects of the navy totalling worth more than Rs 19,000 crore are late. More than 30 ships and submarines are being built for the Indian Navy at home and overseas.

The INS Kolkata was “launched” three years ago. Its keel was laid in September 2003 when it was announced that it would be commissioned in 2010.

But now there is not a single shipyard in the country large enough to accommodate the INS Kolkata. Calcutta’s own Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers is too small to accommodate a destroyer. Even then, it has its berths full with orders for offshore and fast patrol boats and frigates.

In Mazagaon Docks (MDL), a senior naval officer told The Telegraph: “They do not have the manpower, design, capability, availability of berths, and the wherewithal to meet monthly targets -- simply put, there does not seem to be the will.”

He said MDL makes a 12 per cent profit in any case and cost overruns add to its revenues and all projects, including the strategic, licensed-from-the-French Scorpene submarine venture, are running behind schedule.

Worse, the INS Shivalik stealth frigate project has been hit by an insidious bombshell after the new Obama administration instructed GE to stop work on a pair of gas turbine engines on the ship under US laws.

The Indian Navy is now trying to work around the laws by drawing in consultants from Italy and Germany by using the defence public sector Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. The INS Shivalik is likely to be delayed by at least nine months.

The INS Kolkata is an advancement over the INS Delhi, the destroyer currently in service that also has the INS Mumbai and the INS Mysore in its class. The enhanced weapons package on the INS Kolkata will include twin-tube torpedo-launchers, anti-submarine rocket launchers, and 28 Long Range Surface to Air Missiles (LR-SAMs), possibly the Barak-NG (next generation).

The Barak-NG has run into a controversy itself with the CPM demanding that India should pull out of the joint venture project. A venture between India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation and the Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) for which the cabinet committee on security has committed at least Rs 10,000 crore, the Barak-NG or Barak-II ship missile defence system is yet to be tried and tested.

The Indian Navy has armed its vessels with the first generation of Barak missiles with which it claims it is satisfied.

In keeping with the new look that the city it is named after aspires for, the INS Kolkata has been given a sophisticated design that compares among the best of warships in its class.

Indian Naval Headquarters asked its designers to come up with a destroyer that can operate with fully integrated multi-function radar systems and, for the first time, 16 silos -- eight on each side -- capable of launching Brahmos supersonic cruise missiles.

Estimated to cost nearly Rs 8,500 crore, the INS Kolkata “will be capable of exerting sea-control in a multi-threat environment”, says Rear Admiral M.K. Budhwar, director-general of naval design.

http://www.militarium.eu/article.aspx?ID=1300

Govt approves Navy plans for four new warships

New Delhi, Mar 16 (PTI) The government has approved building of four new destroyer warships to bolster the Navy's strength. The follow-on orders for the new destroyers would be placed with Mumbai-based Mazagon Docks Limited (MDL) soon, top Navy sources said here today.

"The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) has last month given in-principle approval to the Navy's proposal for construction of four new Kolkata Class destroyers," sources said.

Codenamed "Project 15B", the new warships would be built after the MDL completed construction of the first three destroyers of the Kolkata Class under "Project 15A".

To be built with advanced stealth features, the four new warships will have land attack capabilities and would be fully indigenous.

"In all, the Navy has would have seven Kolkata Class destroyers," sources noted.

Currently, the Navy has three Delhi Class destroyers in its service and the Kolkata Class destroyers are expected to join the Navy one each every year beginning with 2010.

The MDL had begun construction of the Kolkata class ships beginning September 2003.
他们的军舰建造计划真多
三弟确实是雄心勃勃啊,就是不知道能按时完成不
:D 这种事要是在专制独裁的中国,从设计单位到船厂再到海军装备部的头头全部丢掉乌纱帽;P
TB什么时候也多宣布点计划,带动下CD人气
阿三特色。:D :D
原帖由 liii007 于 2009-3-18 11:44 发表

TB什么时候也多宣布点计划,带动下CD人气

深合我心啊:handshake
原帖由 liii007 于 2009-3-18 11:44 发表
:D 这种事要是在专制独裁的中国,从设计单位到船厂再到海军装备部的头头全部丢掉乌纱帽;P
TB什么时候也多宣布点计划,带动下CD人气

我发现,3哥中型水面舰的建造周期一般都是10年啊,下水后晒装时间一般都要6年以上的.:D
鸟览MDL船厂
原帖由 liii007 于 2009-3-18 11:44 发表
:D 这种事要是在专制独裁的中国,从设计单位到船厂再到海军装备部的头头全部丢掉乌纱帽;P
TB什么时候也多宣布点计划,带动下CD人气



宁要自由草,莫念专制苗!!
独裁的TG今年可能要下饺子庆贺海军节吧?;P
原帖由 dacii 于 2009-3-18 11:49 发表
鸟览MDL船厂



KC BIU的一下白咧...真牛啊...这才是真正的饺子!!!;P
阿三的习惯是先下水再说~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
原帖由 llfxj 于 2009-3-18 11:54 发表
阿三的习惯是先下水再说~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

:D 泡多久就不知道鸟!!!
现在还没有舾装上四个乌克兰的燃气轮机/飞行甲板/机库/鱼雷/导弹
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就一空壳就下水了。。。。。。[:a1:]
原帖由 小彪 于 2009-3-18 11:49 发表

独裁的TG今年可能要下饺子庆贺海军节吧?;P

SokhoiRose对 下饺子 也是翘首以待啊
这09年都快过去3个月了,4.23也临近了,
CD海版怎么还是风平浪静啊
原帖由 小彪 于 2009-3-18 11:51 发表



KC BIU的一下白咧...真牛啊...这才是真正的饺子!!!;P

这饺子都快发霉长毛了。:L
看来阿三哥应该来向TG学习不折腾地精髓啊
原帖由 小彪 于 2009-3-18 11:51 发表



KC BIU的一下白咧...真牛啊...这才是真正的饺子!!!;P

世纪之饺啊[:a6:]
我怎么记得是P17工程呀`   不是P15  难道记错了?
原帖由 江南人 于 2009-3-18 15:02 发表
我怎么记得是P17工程呀`   不是P15  难道记错了?


17号工程,就是那个首舰泡了6年无法服役的什瓦里克级导弹护卫舰
15号工程是德里导弹驱逐舰,15A是班加罗尔级,06年9月首舰下水,计划10年服役,最新消息是被延误,最早都要到2013:D
请大家记住一个事实,什瓦里克的下水时间在171舰以前,而班加罗尔和054A比,还要先下水个月左右

可怜的A3海军:D
2011第一条国产航母下水,2015年三航母编队,200条舰艇组成亚洲第一海军......
唯有经受住了时间考验的战舰,才是优秀的战舰。伟大的P17啊,它经过了太阳神的漫长的各种考验,风吹、日晒、雨淋以及各种化学反应。考验之后,P17沉淀下来的都是精华啊,战舰的精华。
原帖由 liii007 于 2009-3-18 11:44 发表
:D 这种事要是在专制独裁的中国,从设计单位到船厂再到海军装备部的头头全部丢掉乌纱帽;P
TB什么时候也多宣布点计划,带动下CD人气

还要扩大内需
:handshake
原帖由 SokhoiRose 于 2009-3-18 15:48 发表
唯有经受住了时间考验的战舰,才是优秀的战舰。伟大的P17啊,它经过了太阳神的漫长的各种考验,风吹、日晒、雨淋以及各种化学反应。考验之后,P17沉淀下来的都是精华啊,战舰的精华。

:D :D

好同志!!!!
阿三的饺子应该已经长毛了吧!!:D
不说TG09要下饺子嘛
现在09都过了1/4了,连A股走出底部了
咋还没动静啊
052D……051D……
TG的计划比A3的宏大多了,就是不能说啊。:D
原帖由 人非人鬼非鬼 于 2009-3-18 17:14 发表
TG的计划比A3的宏大多了,就是不能说啊。:D

不能说你还说
吊我等不明真相之人的胃口[:a5:]
原帖由 SokhoiRose 于 2009-3-18 17:19 发表

不能说你还说
吊我等不明真相之人的胃口[:a5:]

;P TG邪恶啊!!!
P17:“21世纪最重要的是什么?气魄
有气魄才能做大事,有胆量才有产量。
看看我们佛国,从塔尔瓦前辈到我,一下水就下3艘……3艘啊
哪是2艘党052B/C、051C、052可比的?!
至于054A么,5艘而已。下2波3艘计划就超过了“
原帖由 SokhoiRose 于 2009-3-18 15:48 发表
唯有经受住了时间考验的战舰,才是优秀的战舰。伟大的P17啊,它经过了太阳神的漫长的各种考验,风吹、日晒、雨淋以及各种化学反应。考验之后,P17沉淀下来的都是精华啊,战舰的精华。



P17底壳的寄居蟹发来贺电;P
阿三自建的航母……期待中…………
阿三向来是没有想不到,只有做不到。
毛子停飞MIG29了,印度表哥可怜很
原帖由 SokhoiRose 于 2009-3-18 17:27 发表
P17:“21世纪最重要的是什么?气魄
有气魄才能做大事,有胆量才有产量。
看看我们佛国,从塔尔瓦前辈到我,一下水就下3艘……3艘啊
哪是2艘党052B/C、051C、052可比的?!
至于054A么,5艘而已。下2波3艘计划就 ...

P17有样你搞错了,印度大部分人信印度教,另外有1亿多是信伊斯兰教的,其实在唐三藏到西天取经时,佛教已经在印度开始式微,现在的印度佛教徒最多的地方可能是在达赖住的那个几千人的小镇!
这么多舰一起造,貌似阿三很那个;P
原帖由 依依在天 于 2009-3-19 02:31 发表
这么多舰一起造,貌似阿三很那个;P


如果计算半成品,也许2015会有200条
A3的计划是属于国际先烈的