第六代战斗机

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米国洛马之洋大人曰,要开发第六代战斗鸡啦。自从不自量力的波音向客户吹采购4.75代的block3超级虫吧,20年后我们卖你们第六代战斗机,千万表买什么F35那样的5代机,那样会落后的;我神勇洛马引而不发,终于爆料曰:我们要开发六袋鸡,满赛!

6th Gen Fighters for Lockheed? Huh?
Posted by Amy Butler at 6/27/2008 2:51 PM CDT

The battle of the fighter marketeers continues. Lockheed, who coined the "fifth-generation fighter" moniker to describe the combination of stealth, speed and sensor fusion in its F-22 and F-35, is apparently looking to upgrade.

In Lockheed Martin's tentative briefing schedule for reporters at Farnborough air show next month, the company lists a slot Monday at 11 for "6th Generation Fighters (title will change)." Wonder if they've got something new.

Or maybe they are just jerking Boeing's chain. Boeing, by contrast, has split earlier generations of fighters into increments, even suggesting the existence of a 4.75 generation in its advanced F/A-18 Super Hornet. And, just to fire back, Boeing has added that its engineers are looking to leap past Lockheed's in developing a true sixth-gen fighter.

More to come from Farnborough next month!米国洛马之洋大人曰,要开发第六代战斗鸡啦。自从不自量力的波音向客户吹采购4.75代的block3超级虫吧,20年后我们卖你们第六代战斗机,千万表买什么F35那样的5代机,那样会落后的;我神勇洛马引而不发,终于爆料曰:我们要开发六袋鸡,满赛!

6th Gen Fighters for Lockheed? Huh?
Posted by Amy Butler at 6/27/2008 2:51 PM CDT

The battle of the fighter marketeers continues. Lockheed, who coined the "fifth-generation fighter" moniker to describe the combination of stealth, speed and sensor fusion in its F-22 and F-35, is apparently looking to upgrade.

In Lockheed Martin's tentative briefing schedule for reporters at Farnborough air show next month, the company lists a slot Monday at 11 for "6th Generation Fighters (title will change)." Wonder if they've got something new.

Or maybe they are just jerking Boeing's chain. Boeing, by contrast, has split earlier generations of fighters into increments, even suggesting the existence of a 4.75 generation in its advanced F/A-18 Super Hornet. And, just to fire back, Boeing has added that its engineers are looking to leap past Lockheed's in developing a true sixth-gen fighter.

More to come from Farnborough next month!
当年波音的无耻叫嚣,不过屡败屡战,勇气可嘉
Boeing Plans Sixth Generation Fighter With Block 3 Super Hornet

Jan 30, 2008

David A. Fulghum/Aerospace Daily & Defense Report

Boeing is touting an even newer version of its F/A-18E/F Super Hornet that, paired with an advanced sixth-generation fighter in the works at the company, would give customers what Boeing deems a better package of capabilities than Lockheed Martin's combination of the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

The idea is that customers could buy 4.5 generation Super Hornets (perhaps 4.75 generation with the planned extra forward stealth and extra range of Block 3 aircraft) and then switch to a new, sixth generation faster than if they bought the fifth generation Joint Strike Fighter. To be available circa 2024, the sixth generation aircraft would feature a combat radius of more than 1,000 miles and stealth against a much wider spectrum of radars.

"The [Navy] C-version of the F-35 doesn't buy you a lot that the Super Hornet doesn't provide," says Bob Gower, Boeing's vice president for F/A-18 and EA-18G programs. "Our strategy is to create a compelling reason for the services to go to the next [sixth] generation platform. How do you bridge F/A-18E/F to get us there? We want to convince customers to stay with [Super Hornet] a few years longer -- by adding advanced capabilities and lowering price -- so that they can get to the sixth generation faster. If you go to JSF first, it's going to be a long time."

Another part of Boeing's argument is that the "Navy is comfortable with the Super Hornet against the highest [enemy] threat through 2024, with the [improved] capabilities we have in the flight plan," Gower says. "The ability to counter the threat gets you to about the point that [Boeing's] sixth generation is available."

It's part of Boeing's counterattack on Lockheed Martin's claim that the decreasing price of the F-22, which is now at $140 million each, will make it so attractive that Australia may reconsider its buy -- already being paid for -- of 24 two-seat F/A-18F Super Hornets. Until Australia's recent change in government, a number of U.S. officials said the government was considering a second lot of 24 Super Hornets and a six-plane squadron of EA-18G Growlers.

Boeing makes the argument that a sliding in-service date for the JSF is worrying both the Australians and the U.S. military.

"The U.S. Air Force and Navy are now talking a lot more about where they need to go with sixth generation to get beyond JSF," Gower says. "It could be unmanned, but I think you will see a combination of missions -- some manned, some unmanned."

For Boeing, the real discriminators are going to be extended range (1,000-1,500 miles), a small radar signature against low-frequency radars, expanded awareness through connections with the network, and the ability to carry a number of bombs internally.

Photo: U.S. Defense Dept.
播音相关现成的译文:
  美国《航空周刊与空间技术》网站2008年1月31日报道,波音公司正在考虑发展F/A-18E/F"超级大黄蜂"飞机的新改型,该机与波音将开发的第6代战斗机搭配将给客户提供比洛·马的F-22和F-35更好的能力。

    波音的想法是,客户可以购买4.5代"超级大黄蜂"(计划发展的具有前隐身和更大航程的第3批次飞机可能是4.75代),然后转换成新型第6代战斗机,这比购买第5代的联合攻击机更快。第6代战斗机有望在2024年左右获得,该机的作战半径超过1000英里 (1852千米),并对更多雷达具有隐身性。

    波音F/A-18和EA-18G项目副总裁Bob Gower表示,波音希望说服客户可以通过增加先进能力、降低成本将"超级大黄蜂"服役时间再延长几年,然后他们能更快地使用上第6代战斗机,而如果首先装备了JSF,这将需要更长时间。波音认为JSF不定的服役日期正在困扰澳大利亚和美国军方。

    Gower还说:"美国空军和海军正在不断讨论在JSF之后是否还需发展第6代,它可能是无人机,但我认为人们将看到有人和无人联合完成任务。"(中国航空信息网 吴蔚)
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基本上是没影的事!
楼上说的是天顶星还是波音?
期待...............
原帖由 zyz201 于 2008-7-9 22:07 发表
我看我们应该全力发展太空技术,在米国人之前找到天顶星人,告诉他们我们是地球上少数几个信封“马克思主义”的政治盟友~~~  

阿弥陀佛..阿门...真主保佑  期望天顶星人是走共产主义路线的:D

按马克思主义哲学 ...

应该是被阉割的马克思主义哲学。。。。
不就是F-45和F-43之争吗,很正常。
原帖由 yigect1 于 2008-7-10 10:01 发表

应该是被阉割的马克思主义哲学。。。。

说了只是YY嘛~~:D    现实太残酷了啊:L跳跃式发展将是我们在21世纪“永恒”的话题
我看不一定,NAVY+波音果然有阴毛阿,对付落马+AF的f35
波音需要这点阴毛吗?不要看它F35和加油机机都输了,人家FCS的订单拿在手里,虽然现在没多少钱,等到铺开来,不见得就比F35少。