“卡特里娜”见证了美国的文明与富强(转贴)

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“卡特里娜”见证了美国的文明与富强
作者:流星雨72

文章提交者:流星雨72 加帖在 猫眼看人 【凯迪网络】 http://www.kdnet.net


一,美国巨人五级飓风吹不倒

2001年9月11日的那天,当美国的经济中心纽约和政治中心华盛顿笼罩在硝烟迷雾中的时候,有多少人欢呼:美国5万商界精英灰飞烟灭,美国遭到沉重打击,要完蛋了。我的回答是:别急,咱等着瞧。

结果,美军仅仅动用数千人的地面部队,在3周内拿下了阿富汗。2年后,又花费数千亿美金,在4周内占领了伊拉克。

2005年8月29日的那天,五级飓风“卡特里娜”三次登陆,正面袭击美国平坦的南部繁华都市,摧毁钻井平台的时候,又有多少人欢呼:飓风吹掉了美国裤衩,它已经沦落为第三世界。我的回答是:别急,咱等着瞧。

结果,飓风过后的24小时内,美国救援直升机就飞行了一千架次;9月1日晚,美国参议院批准105亿美元的救灾款。飓风过后的第三天,475辆运载救灾物资的货柜车和撤退灾民的客车驶入积水的新奥尔良市区;9月3日,将体育馆和会议中心等地的5万多灾民陆续转移到500公里外的休斯顿等地。

结果,9月4日,飓风停止五天之后,海岸警备队的直升机一共从水面屋顶上抢救运送了一万七千多人。9月3日,嫌累不想开车离开的新奥尔良大学化学系研究生张晓,张贺和侯燕夫妇等五名中国人就是被美军直升飞机救出,并免费送往600公里以外的得克萨斯州圣安东尼奥市。到9月6日,有5万8千军人,3百多架直升机和几乎相同数量的固定翼飞机参与救灾。

结果,在灾后的两周内,就有35万2千人从美国联邦紧急救援署领到2000美元的救灾预付款,4周内共有250万人领到2000美元的预付款,其手续仅仅是在申请表格上填入自己的姓名,年龄和住址及理由外加签名即可。不需要单位街道村委会证明,没有身份证件的也没关系,更不需要实地查看。

结果,到10月11日时,共有60万灾民住进了全美各地的宾馆,根据需要和自愿最长期限为6个月,费用由联邦紧急救援署支付。18.7万的中小学生免费就近入学。在2个半月内共有15万幢带空调,抽水马桶,热水和有线电视的汽车活动房供灾民免费使用。

结果,美国联邦政府在减税的行动中,在耗巨资奔赴中东打仗的情况下,一口气就拨款1100亿美元帮助灾民重建家园(美国财政有联邦,州,县市和乡镇四级)。

到今天,美国联邦紧急救援署已经耗资56亿美元修缮了灾区的道路,学校,供水,供电,供气等公共系统。

到今天,美国历史上最大的耗资170亿美元的私人住房恢复修缮工程正在运行。

到今天,美国国家洪灾保险中心 (NFIP)已经批准了98%的理赔申请。

到今天,美国联邦教育部发放20亿美元帮助灾区学生复学,受惠学生达15万之众。

到今天,美国小生意管理署(SBA)完成了99%的受灾评估,发放了102亿美元的救灾款给摊贩等帮助小生意经营者们恢复生计, 共有2万2千个小生意经营者受益。

到今天,美国陆军工程部队已经耗资60亿美元,按照百年不遇的标准,修缮,加高和加固了352公里的海堤,还有泵站等等防洪排涝设施。

到今天,1亿3百万立方码的灾害垃圾已经被清除干净,占该清除的87%。

到今天,所有的港口,油井和输油管道及炼油厂恢复正常运转。

在这个飓风季节来临前,美国联邦紧急救援署已经常备了4倍量的膳食,4倍量的食用冰块,2.5倍量的饮用水,可供100万人口食用1周。

美国没有中-宣-部。就是这样,美国媒体照样刊登出了只有65%的人对政府救灾进度不满意的民调,因为美国联邦政府所施行的这些浩大的工程在美国人看来是理所当然的事情。这个世界上,没有最好,只有更好。美国媒体,美国民间组织和个人所需要做的是就是“挑刺儿,找毛病”,鞭策自己的“公仆”做得更好。

看到这里,读者会说,以上只能说明美国富有和强大,那么接下来我再来说明美国在5级飓风“卡特里娜”中所体现出来的文明,民主和自由。

在飓风“卡特里娜”的报道中,最冲击读者眼睛的要数“飓风吹掉了美国的裤衩,美国沦落为第三世界”这个论断了。想必,“第三世界”成了贬义词了。

曾几何时,第三世界还是个进步与革命的同义词。恍惚20年间,翻天覆地,美国成了第三世界,中国成了第几世界了呢?

待续--------先贴出来,供大家“挑刺儿,找毛病”,鞭策我写得更好,挣更多的美金。

二,解读飓风中美国新奥尔良的死亡数字
2005年8月29日这一天,在新奥尔良以南约100公里的伯拉斯小镇,几百人默默肃立在黎明前的黑暗里。当时针指向凌晨6点10分时,所有人都低头默哀。一年前的这一刻,“卡特里娜”飓风从这里登陆。随后,整个小镇消失在墨西哥湾的巨浪里。

伯拉斯小镇的悼念仪式标志着新奥尔良纪念“卡特里娜”飓风一周年活动的开始。从凌晨6点10分起,劫后余生的新奥尔良人陆续聚集到教堂、社区和市政大厅里,在防洪大堤倒塌的时刻敲响钟声,纪念被那场飓风夺去的生命。纪念活动的高潮将安排在29日晚上,为了纪念在这次灾难中受灾、特别是遇难的人们,新奥尔良市的居民当天晚上将在市政厅为遇难者举行守夜活动。(摘自新闻晨报)

飓风“卡特里娜”已经过去一整年了,美国人还记得它。

当我告诉你,那场粉碎无数桥梁,掀翻超级穹顶的屋顶,淹没新奥尔良80%面积的超级飓风中,直接死亡人数只有155人,间接死亡的也只有565人的时候,你相信吗?

我想绝大多数会以为我疯了,在那场席卷全球媒体的飓风中,在如雷贯耳的新奥尔良市,不是早就准备了3万个裹尸袋了吗?

可是事实就是这样的捉弄人,事实就是这样让那些坐看美国笑话的人失望了。那些裹尸袋派不上用场,我是早就知道的。我在去年9月5日和人打了赌,周围的同事朋友坚持多则3-5万,少则5-6千的氛围中,我说新奥尔良不过1千。结果我赢了,我没有内幕,我只是凭借我对美国的了解。


三,全球媒体注视下的美国文明

四,飓风中的美国仍是第一世界风范

待续。“卡特里娜”见证了美国的文明与富强
作者:流星雨72

文章提交者:流星雨72 加帖在 猫眼看人 【凯迪网络】 http://www.kdnet.net


一,美国巨人五级飓风吹不倒

2001年9月11日的那天,当美国的经济中心纽约和政治中心华盛顿笼罩在硝烟迷雾中的时候,有多少人欢呼:美国5万商界精英灰飞烟灭,美国遭到沉重打击,要完蛋了。我的回答是:别急,咱等着瞧。

结果,美军仅仅动用数千人的地面部队,在3周内拿下了阿富汗。2年后,又花费数千亿美金,在4周内占领了伊拉克。

2005年8月29日的那天,五级飓风“卡特里娜”三次登陆,正面袭击美国平坦的南部繁华都市,摧毁钻井平台的时候,又有多少人欢呼:飓风吹掉了美国裤衩,它已经沦落为第三世界。我的回答是:别急,咱等着瞧。

结果,飓风过后的24小时内,美国救援直升机就飞行了一千架次;9月1日晚,美国参议院批准105亿美元的救灾款。飓风过后的第三天,475辆运载救灾物资的货柜车和撤退灾民的客车驶入积水的新奥尔良市区;9月3日,将体育馆和会议中心等地的5万多灾民陆续转移到500公里外的休斯顿等地。

结果,9月4日,飓风停止五天之后,海岸警备队的直升机一共从水面屋顶上抢救运送了一万七千多人。9月3日,嫌累不想开车离开的新奥尔良大学化学系研究生张晓,张贺和侯燕夫妇等五名中国人就是被美军直升飞机救出,并免费送往600公里以外的得克萨斯州圣安东尼奥市。到9月6日,有5万8千军人,3百多架直升机和几乎相同数量的固定翼飞机参与救灾。

结果,在灾后的两周内,就有35万2千人从美国联邦紧急救援署领到2000美元的救灾预付款,4周内共有250万人领到2000美元的预付款,其手续仅仅是在申请表格上填入自己的姓名,年龄和住址及理由外加签名即可。不需要单位街道村委会证明,没有身份证件的也没关系,更不需要实地查看。

结果,到10月11日时,共有60万灾民住进了全美各地的宾馆,根据需要和自愿最长期限为6个月,费用由联邦紧急救援署支付。18.7万的中小学生免费就近入学。在2个半月内共有15万幢带空调,抽水马桶,热水和有线电视的汽车活动房供灾民免费使用。

结果,美国联邦政府在减税的行动中,在耗巨资奔赴中东打仗的情况下,一口气就拨款1100亿美元帮助灾民重建家园(美国财政有联邦,州,县市和乡镇四级)。

到今天,美国联邦紧急救援署已经耗资56亿美元修缮了灾区的道路,学校,供水,供电,供气等公共系统。

到今天,美国历史上最大的耗资170亿美元的私人住房恢复修缮工程正在运行。

到今天,美国国家洪灾保险中心 (NFIP)已经批准了98%的理赔申请。

到今天,美国联邦教育部发放20亿美元帮助灾区学生复学,受惠学生达15万之众。

到今天,美国小生意管理署(SBA)完成了99%的受灾评估,发放了102亿美元的救灾款给摊贩等帮助小生意经营者们恢复生计, 共有2万2千个小生意经营者受益。

到今天,美国陆军工程部队已经耗资60亿美元,按照百年不遇的标准,修缮,加高和加固了352公里的海堤,还有泵站等等防洪排涝设施。

到今天,1亿3百万立方码的灾害垃圾已经被清除干净,占该清除的87%。

到今天,所有的港口,油井和输油管道及炼油厂恢复正常运转。

在这个飓风季节来临前,美国联邦紧急救援署已经常备了4倍量的膳食,4倍量的食用冰块,2.5倍量的饮用水,可供100万人口食用1周。

美国没有中-宣-部。就是这样,美国媒体照样刊登出了只有65%的人对政府救灾进度不满意的民调,因为美国联邦政府所施行的这些浩大的工程在美国人看来是理所当然的事情。这个世界上,没有最好,只有更好。美国媒体,美国民间组织和个人所需要做的是就是“挑刺儿,找毛病”,鞭策自己的“公仆”做得更好。

看到这里,读者会说,以上只能说明美国富有和强大,那么接下来我再来说明美国在5级飓风“卡特里娜”中所体现出来的文明,民主和自由。

在飓风“卡特里娜”的报道中,最冲击读者眼睛的要数“飓风吹掉了美国的裤衩,美国沦落为第三世界”这个论断了。想必,“第三世界”成了贬义词了。

曾几何时,第三世界还是个进步与革命的同义词。恍惚20年间,翻天覆地,美国成了第三世界,中国成了第几世界了呢?

待续--------先贴出来,供大家“挑刺儿,找毛病”,鞭策我写得更好,挣更多的美金。

二,解读飓风中美国新奥尔良的死亡数字
2005年8月29日这一天,在新奥尔良以南约100公里的伯拉斯小镇,几百人默默肃立在黎明前的黑暗里。当时针指向凌晨6点10分时,所有人都低头默哀。一年前的这一刻,“卡特里娜”飓风从这里登陆。随后,整个小镇消失在墨西哥湾的巨浪里。

伯拉斯小镇的悼念仪式标志着新奥尔良纪念“卡特里娜”飓风一周年活动的开始。从凌晨6点10分起,劫后余生的新奥尔良人陆续聚集到教堂、社区和市政大厅里,在防洪大堤倒塌的时刻敲响钟声,纪念被那场飓风夺去的生命。纪念活动的高潮将安排在29日晚上,为了纪念在这次灾难中受灾、特别是遇难的人们,新奥尔良市的居民当天晚上将在市政厅为遇难者举行守夜活动。(摘自新闻晨报)

飓风“卡特里娜”已经过去一整年了,美国人还记得它。

当我告诉你,那场粉碎无数桥梁,掀翻超级穹顶的屋顶,淹没新奥尔良80%面积的超级飓风中,直接死亡人数只有155人,间接死亡的也只有565人的时候,你相信吗?

我想绝大多数会以为我疯了,在那场席卷全球媒体的飓风中,在如雷贯耳的新奥尔良市,不是早就准备了3万个裹尸袋了吗?

可是事实就是这样的捉弄人,事实就是这样让那些坐看美国笑话的人失望了。那些裹尸袋派不上用场,我是早就知道的。我在去年9月5日和人打了赌,周围的同事朋友坚持多则3-5万,少则5-6千的氛围中,我说新奥尔良不过1千。结果我赢了,我没有内幕,我只是凭借我对美国的了解。


三,全球媒体注视下的美国文明

四,飓风中的美国仍是第一世界风范

待续。
  看到这种从凯迪飞出来的拍马屁文章就恶心的要吐。
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Tuesday, August 22, 2006
Katrina Death Toll Plummets to 1,723

As the 1-year anniversary of Hurricane Katrina looms, the death toll from the Hurricane has taken a serious drop, as Louisiana has apparently weeded out many of the out of state deaths in a short post-Hurricane period as not related to the Hurricane. As of August 2, the death toll has dropped from 1,836 to 1,723, a drop of 113 deaths.

Previously, Louisiana had listed 1,577 deaths as being due to the hurricane. That included 480 out of state deaths and 1,097 deaths in Louisiana. The out of state number has now been reduced to 346 deaths, a drop of 134 deaths. A graphic showing the out of state deaths by state is here.

The Louisiana total has increased to 1,118, an increase of 21 deaths. So, between May 18 and August 2, a period of 10 weeks, an additional 21 deaths were recorded in Louisiana itself, which is pretty amazing.

On August 1, only a month ago, another body, or more correctly a skeleton, was found after firefighters smashed down the door of a home filled with debris. Officials were alerted by a man who said his mother's body may still be in the home.

There are only 23 bodies that have not yet been identified. That is a reduction from 49 bodies on July 6 and shows excellent progress is being made in body identification.

The total for Louisiana has dropped to 1,464 deaths.

There are still 135 people missing from the storm. That number has not changed much in the past month or two. Although many missing continued to be found up until a few months ago, at this late date, I fear that many of the missing are probably dead. One wonders at what point the missing are simply assumed to be dead.

In a serious case of beaurocratic failure, the official missing list for Louisiana has not been updated since February 2, and still contains the names of 2,371 people. That list seriously needs to be updated.

I tried to call the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals to ask them about this situation, but the woman who answered the phone did not seem to be able to even understand my question. I understand that there are Americans who do not have very high IQ's, and that is not their fault. But must they be employed by state agencies to deal with the public?

At this point, I am giving up but some enterprising researcher really ought to follow up on this with a phone call to the the Department above and ask them when they are going to update their missing list, if ever.

Reportedly, over 99% of the Louisiana Hurricane Katrina missing persons cases were resolved in one way or another. However, I have received communications from persons working with the families of missing persons in Louisiana who claim that there are still 1000's of persons looking for missing loved ones from this storm.

We are going to continue to give Mississippi 238 deaths, until they can pubish an official number, or list the dead, or do something responsible about this figure. There continue to be issues with the Mississippi death toll. For one fascinating example, see this weather blog here, in particular the comments by "squeak", Jeff Stang and "BenRMac":

"squeak's comments:

In the obits in the MS Press and Sun Herald, in the weeks after the storm, there were many older people who passed away in that timeframe, and even though it was not on the day the hurricane hit, but after, I assumed that a number of these deaths were indirectly related to the hurricane. It seems appropriate that these be noted, but counted as a separate statistic.
BenRMac's comments:

...I spent a couple months with the Hands On group working down there, and it was simply overwhelming to see the scale of damage. I want to ask you about a story that I heard while working with the animal shelter there, the one that used to be north of the airport but is now relocated. One of the people that lived there was telling us stories about the days after the storm, and she said that she saw hundreds of bodies laid out in parking lots and other areas by recovery workers.

She said that the "official" totals for MS are bullshit, and that many, many more died there. She did seem to be a little overenthusiastic and also traumatized, but I do have to agree after seeing the scale of damage that the official numbers seem awfully low. With the sheer number of homes and apartment complexes that just disappeared on the 70+ miles of coast, I would have expected much more...
Jeff Stang's comments:

Along the MS Gulf Coast, there is a large Vietnamese community. These guys (and sometimes the entire family) will ride out a storm on their shrimp boats. There were many dead on the Industrial Canal in Gulfport yet none are listed in the Sun Herald's death toll list. The most obvious reason for this is that many old timers in the Vietnamese community (because of Communism) do not trust the government, they "fly under the radar".

Most do not speak English, even after being here since '75. The kids translate for them. Anyway, there was not one name listed as dead and yet there were many reports of people finding entire families dead on submerged shrimp boats. The authorities will never truly know the true death numbers.
Regarding squeak's comments about the stress and aftereffects of the storm causing excessive deaths, there does not seem to be much we can do. Governor Haley Barbour is a corrupt pol who is close to the ultra-corrupt US President George Bush.

Unlike Louisiana, Mississippi apparently did not want to count deaths that were caused by the aftermath of the storm, especially stress exacerbating pre-exitisting conditions. However, if an enterprising investigator could get ahold of back issues of the Sun Herald and the Mississippi Press, they could compare the death rates post-storm to the norm for the region. The excess could reasonably be concluded to be due to the storm.

BenRMac's comments are largely anecdotatl, but it might be nice if a reporter or investigator could go down there and at least get some witnesses on record about "hundreds of bodies", etc.

Jeff Strang's comments about a supposed large number of dead amongst Vietnamese shrimpers, who failed to record these deaths with the state, is more interesting. Since many of these families still speak only Vietnamese, the investigator would need an interpreter.

The fact that a large number of these Vietnamese deaths supposedly occurred on Industrial Canal in Gulfport means that that street would be a good place to start looking. I don't have the means or desire to go down there, so maybe some other investigator could pick up the ball here. It looks like there may be a story here that remains to be written.

For what it's worth, Seth Abramson, an attorney/poet blogger, has been hammering away at the discrepancies in Mississippi's death toll for some time now, making various allegations that Haley Barbour is hiding the real death toll in Mississippi.

It is true that the suicide rate in New Orlreans went up after Hurricane Katrina for a number of months, but the only figures available are per 1000,000 population figures, and until we can determine the population of New Orleans month by month post-Katrina, there is no way to figure out what that number is.

I do not believe that the suicide increase has been figured into the totals and it is presently beyond my capability to do that. That is a job that I am going to hand off to a more willing statistician.

As the 1-year anniversary of this terrible storm approaches, it is helpful to look at a couple of overviews of what Hurricane Katrina actually was. First, a timeline, and then a fact sheet (both the timeline and the fact sheet are from the producers of Surviving Katrina, a promising documentary directed by Phil Craig and produced by the Discovery Channel. This film will be showing on August 27 at 9 PM across the US:


Timeline



Tuesday, August 23, 2005
Hurricane Katrina starts forming over the Bahamas and is identified by the National Hurricane Centre at 5 PM as Tropical Depression 12.


Wednesday, August 24
Tropical Depression 12 strengthens into a tropical storm and is named Katrina.


Thursday, August 25
Katrina strikes Florida as a Category 1 hurricane with winds of 80 MPH.
Long-range forecasting predicts Katrina will make landfall in the Florida Panhandle, well to the East of New Orleans. It is expected that Katrina will move immediately in a northward direction.


Friday, August 26
At 5 PM, Hurricane Katrina moves into the Gulf of Mexico and quickly grows into a category 2 hurricane with 100 MPH winds. As Hurricane Katrina enters the Gulf of Mexico conditions are perfect for a hurricane to rapidly intensify:

1) Warm ocean temperatures
2) Moist atmospheric conditions
3) A lack of wind sheer (winds that disrupt the motion of a storm)

High pressures over the Gulf drive Katrina further west. Katrina is moving in a westerly direction and the National Hurricane Center forecast track shifts towards New Orleans. The Florida Panhandle is no longer in Katrina’s sights and landfall is now expected somewhere in Mississippi or Louisiana.


Saturday, August 27
At 4 AM, Katrina is now a Category 3 storm and continues to move in a westerly direction. Katrina also continues to rapidly intensify due to the sustained conditions for hurricane growth in the Gulf of Mexico.

The hurricane forecast track has Katrina moving northwest over the next 24 hours towards New Orleans at a speed of 7 MPH. Katrina is roughly 435 miles south of the Mississippi River.

A Category 5 hurricane is a very rare occurrence; typically we only see one every two years in the Atlantic. Conditions in recent years, however, have been ideal for the fuelling of massive Category 5 hurricanes.


Sunday, August 28
At 1 AM, Katrina is upgraded to a Category 4 hurricane with winds of 145 MPH. Six hours later, Katrina is upgraded to a Category 5 hurricane with maximum sustained winds of 160 MPH.

The National Weather Service issues this Advisory at 7 AM:

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for the north central gulf coast from Morgan City, Louisiana eastward to the Alabama/Florida border…including the City of New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain…preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion.
At 4 PM, the National Weather Service continues to update on the potential threat to New Orleans and the Gulf Coast from storm surge:

Coastal storm surge flooding of 18 to 22 feet above normal tide levels…locally as high as 28 feet…along with large and dangerous battering waves…can be expected near and to the east of where the center makes landfall. Some levees in New Orleans area could be overtopped. Significant storm surge will occur elsewhere along the central and northeastern Gulf of Mexico Coast.


Monday, August 29
In the early hours of Monday morning, Katrina begins to weaken and by 2 AM is already classed by the National Weather Service as a Category 4 storm.

At 5 AM, one hour before Katrina’s first landfall, Katrina’s associated storm surge begins to cross Lake Borgne from the Gulf of Mexico and starts to batter the eastern flood defences of Greater New Orleans. The storm surge is also carried towards the city’s Industrial Canal and Lake Pontchartrain along the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway.

Storm surge heights at landfall peaked at around 25 feet as they came ashore – the largest recorded in U.S. history – breaking the previous record set by Hurricane Camille in 1969. Storm surges can be the most devastating part of a hurricane and in Katrina’s case, the storm surges proved much more destructive than the hurricane winds.

Hurricane Katrina makes landfall over the Mississippi Delta as a near Category 4 storm and then makes another landfall on the Mississippi-Louisiana border as a Category 3 hurricane. Hurricane Katrina’s core winds hit the Mississippi Coast and New Orleans experiences the weaker winds on the western side of Katrina.

These winds, moving from the North to the South, create a second storm surge on Lake Pontchartrain – about 11 feet high – which races towards the northern flood defences of the city, ultimately leading to the breaches in the 17th Street and London Avenue drainage canals that flood Metropolitan New Orleans.

By 2 PM Katrina has weakened to a Category 2 storm as it continues to move inland. By Tuesday, Katrina weakens to a tropical depression.
这也能吹
那我们国家98年的抗洪可比这个强多了
http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/katdead-02/katrina-dead-02.htm
在家里就死了不少

按道理这种风只要是有腿能走的人都应该可以躲避
还死了这么多
可能死的都是不能走的残疾人吧??
桑美死的人比卡特里那少

看来也见证了中国的文明与富强
美帝毫不关心本国人民的死活,他们的民主宣传全是为侵略服务的,虚伪!
美国那些贫民生活大家也不是没看到!!!

美国大兵去救灾和我们子弟兵还是有分别的

我们解放军是拿锹去的

人家美国大兵拿的是枪!!!
原帖由 明溪 于 2006-9-1 18:23 发表
美国那些贫民生活大家也不是没看到!!!

美国大兵去救灾和我们子弟兵还是有分别的

我们解放军是拿锹去的

人家美国大兵拿的是枪!!!

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至少可以肯定他们确实是兵么.
按某些人的理论,当兵的就要扛枪.至于抢险救灾那是消防队的任务.
一个是死亡人数一天比一天少;
一个是死亡人数一天比一天多.[em09]
前几天又看了个节目关于卡特里娜,那个堤坝竟然只是一面子墙,不垮才怪.
原帖由 f22 于 2006-9-1 23:30 发表
前几天又看了个节目关于卡特里娜,那个堤坝竟然只是一面子墙,不垮才怪.

原来伟大的,民主的,无所不能的美国也有豆腐渣.楼主呢,出来吱一声啊.
原帖由 深涧悠蓝 于 2006-9-3 00:36 发表

原来伟大的,民主的,无所不能的美国也有豆腐渣.楼主呢,出来吱一声啊.


lz出来了!
声明:俺只是转贴,文表达的观点不干俺事!
原帖由 freemajor 于 2006-9-3 00:43 发表


lz出来了!
声明:俺只是转贴,文表达的观点不干俺事!

读过法律没有?如果没有,基本常识有没有?
以为"转贴"二字就能摆脱干系?
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原帖由 freemajor 于 2006-9-3 00:58 发表

这帽子扣得!!
俺洗耳恭听,转贴要个什么常识,什么法律?

如果你觉得该文是胡说,你会转吗?很明显你认可该文的内容才会转贴。该文表达的观点又怎么会不干您的事?
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哦,真富强,真文明.对了还少个民主,真圣母玛利亚的民主
原帖由 freemajor 于 2006-9-3 00:58 发表

这帽子扣得!!
俺洗耳恭听,转贴要个什么常识,什么法律?

当年我离开盛唐,就是因为,那里这种人太多.
美国的文明与富强是有目共睹的,一场飓风也暴露出他也有很多没干好的。
伟大的国家,伟大的人民何惧任何自然灾害!
嘛?中国人活着都不怕,还能怕死?
越无知越嚣张
楼上,引用我的话都不打个招呼?[em04] [em04]
原帖由 freemajor 于 2006-9-3 10:42 发表


原来如比!!
我认可此文不可以么?你到说说看!现在你们这些人很奇怪,别人喜欢夸大一下美国主子你们就激动得不得了,好像受到了侮辱一样,有必要么?何况转贴并不是就一定要认可文章得观点,拿来让大家看看 ...

"我认可此文"我没别的意思,要的就是你这句。我激动了吗?阁下倒是很激动啊
反正这个飓风吹得我是彻底的死心塌地的跟着咱们党走了,唉 以前对伟大民主自由啊天堂啊也没少幻想啊,我算明白了,人类的母亲果然是非洲的某个猩猩,到哪里都一样.
不知大家为什么对人数这么起劲,难道死一个人就不叫死人?死一个人就可以忽略不计?

难道中国人多得让大家觉得人命和白菜一样,可以用数字来衡量吗?

关键不是死几个,关键是怎么死的,能否避免?