土耳其紧急采购两套远程导弹防御系统,质疑欧洲交付时间 ...

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ANKARA — Turkey’s military and procurement officials are mulling a stopgap, off-the-shelf solution after they scrapped a multibillion dollar air defense contract and decided to build it indigenously.
安卡拉-在土耳其放弃一项达数十亿美元的防空合同并且决定自主建造以后,军队和采购官员正在深思熟虑其他可以尽快获得且可用的临时应急方案。

Officials said the military top brass is especially keen for the stopgap solution, citing increasing conventional military threats, especially after Turkey became the first NATO member state to shoot down a Russian military airplane and spark a row.
官方说,由于传统军事威胁的增加,尤其是在土耳其成为北约成员国中第一个击落俄罗斯战斗机以后,军方高层官员尤其希望尽快获得一个可以尽快部署,马上投入使用防空系统。

Turkey’s relations with Russia turned sour, with Russia threatening to punish Turkey “not only by economic sanctions” after Turkish F-16 fighters Nov. 24 shot down a Russian Su-24 after the jet briefly violated the Turkish airspace along Turkey’s Syrian border.
在11月24日,土耳其在土-叙边界击落短暂入侵土耳其领空的su-24战斗机以后,土耳其和俄罗斯的关系变得紧张起来,俄罗斯威胁将会惩罚土耳其“不仅仅只是使用经济手段”。

“Turkey now faces multiple conventional threats including from a military heavyweight like Russia and from unreliable states like Iran and Syria,” said one senior military officer. “We do not have the luxury not to have a powerful, long-range air defense architecture. We cannot forever rely on NATO assets inside and outside Turkey.”  
“土耳其面临着来自俄罗斯的和伊朗、叙利亚等等不同等级的多方面传统军事威胁,”一位军方高层官员说道。“在没有一个强大的远程防空体系的情况下我们无法安心。我们不可能永远依靠北约组织部署在我们境内外的装置。”

In September 2013, Turkey selected China Precision Machinery Import Export Corp. (CPMIEC) to build the country’s first long-range air and anti-missile defense system. The Chinese company offered a $3.44 billion solution.
在2013年11月,土耳其选择中国精密机械进出口公司来为该国建造第一个远程导弹防御系统。这一家中国公司提供了一个价值34.4亿美元的方案。

The firm defeated a US partnership of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, offering the Patriot air defense system; Russia’s Rosoboronexport, marketing the S-300; and Italian-French consortium Eurosam, maker of the Aster 30.
该公司分别击败了来自美国的雷神和洛克希德马丁公司提供的爱国者系统,俄罗斯 Rosoboronexport提供的出口型的S-300系统以及意大利-法国联合的欧洲导弹公司的紫苑-30系统。

Under strong pressure from NATO allies who said that a Chinese system could not be made interoperable with NATO assets on Turkish soil, Turkey opened parallel talks with the US and European contenders.
在北约盟友的关于中国系统无法与北约部署在土耳其的装置共联通用的巨大压力之下,土耳其重新开启了与美国和欧洲竞标商的对话。

The Ankara government Nov. 13 scrapped the competition and tasked two local companies to build an indigenous system instead.
安卡拉政府在今年11月13日放弃了这一竞标采购项目,授权两家本地公司自主研发制造远程导弹防御系统。

Military electronics specialist Aselsan, Turkey’s biggest defense company, and missile maker Roketsan, both state-controlled, will develop the system. But there are concerns the work may take too long.
土耳其最大的防务公司,专门开发军用电子系统的Aselsan公司和导弹制造商Roketsan将负责开发这一系统,他们都是国有的。但是让人担忧的是这一工作将会花费很长时间。

“We share the military’s concerns that our requirement may be too urgent to wait for the indigenous system in the making,” said one procurement official familiar with the program. “We may have to buy two systems off the shelf.” The original program was for the acquisition of four systems.
“我们和军方有着一样的担忧,我们的需求如此紧迫以至于不可能等候国产系统的生产,”一位熟悉这一项目的采购官员说道。“我们可能不得不采购两套现可用的系统。”这一项目原本计划需求是四套系统。

So, the competition  is not over although it may have shrunk by half.
所以,竞标并没有结束,尽管数目减半、

“The natural contenders in the new race will be the same US and European groups,” said one industry source. “Delivery timetables will be crucial since Turkey consider this as an urgent buy.”
新的招标竞争者对象将是美国和欧洲同样的公司,”来自工业部门的消息显示。“因为这是土耳其的一项紧急采购,所以交付计划时间表很重要。”

The US consortium commits to deliver the Patriot system within 40 months and the European group commits to deliver the SAMP/T (Aster 30) system in 18 months.
美国团体承诺爱国者系统可以在40个月内交付,而欧洲导弹公司承诺紫苑-30系统可以在18个月内交付

“The delivery timetable for the SAMP/T does not look realistic,” said the procurement official. “A more realistic timetable for that system could instead be 30 months.”
“紫苑-30系统的交付时间表看起来不真实,”采购官员说。“这一系统真实的交付时间应该大约在30个月。”

After consultations with government officials the military top brass will press for an urgent stopgap solution.
在与政府官员协商以后,军队高层官将会强力促进这一紧急临时方案的进行。

“We will explain to the political leadership in great detail why we must have some [long-range] systems before any indigenous system emerges,” said the military official.
“我们用大量详细的理由向政治领导层解释为什么我们需要在任何国产系统出现之前获得一些远程导弹防御系统,”军队官员说。

防务新闻

ANKARA — Turkey’s military and procurement officials are mulling a stopgap, off-the-shelf solution after they scrapped a multibillion dollar air defense contract and decided to build it indigenously.
安卡拉-在土耳其放弃一项达数十亿美元的防空合同并且决定自主建造以后,军队和采购官员正在深思熟虑其他可以尽快获得且可用的临时应急方案。

Officials said the military top brass is especially keen for the stopgap solution, citing increasing conventional military threats, especially after Turkey became the first NATO member state to shoot down a Russian military airplane and spark a row.
官方说,由于传统军事威胁的增加,尤其是在土耳其成为北约成员国中第一个击落俄罗斯战斗机以后,军方高层官员尤其希望尽快获得一个可以尽快部署,马上投入使用防空系统。

Turkey’s relations with Russia turned sour, with Russia threatening to punish Turkey “not only by economic sanctions” after Turkish F-16 fighters Nov. 24 shot down a Russian Su-24 after the jet briefly violated the Turkish airspace along Turkey’s Syrian border.
在11月24日,土耳其在土-叙边界击落短暂入侵土耳其领空的su-24战斗机以后,土耳其和俄罗斯的关系变得紧张起来,俄罗斯威胁将会惩罚土耳其“不仅仅只是使用经济手段”。

“Turkey now faces multiple conventional threats including from a military heavyweight like Russia and from unreliable states like Iran and Syria,” said one senior military officer. “We do not have the luxury not to have a powerful, long-range air defense architecture. We cannot forever rely on NATO assets inside and outside Turkey.”  
“土耳其面临着来自俄罗斯的和伊朗、叙利亚等等不同等级的多方面传统军事威胁,”一位军方高层官员说道。“在没有一个强大的远程防空体系的情况下我们无法安心。我们不可能永远依靠北约组织部署在我们境内外的装置。”

In September 2013, Turkey selected China Precision Machinery Import Export Corp. (CPMIEC) to build the country’s first long-range air and anti-missile defense system. The Chinese company offered a $3.44 billion solution.
在2013年11月,土耳其选择中国精密机械进出口公司来为该国建造第一个远程导弹防御系统。这一家中国公司提供了一个价值34.4亿美元的方案。

The firm defeated a US partnership of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, offering the Patriot air defense system; Russia’s Rosoboronexport, marketing the S-300; and Italian-French consortium Eurosam, maker of the Aster 30.
该公司分别击败了来自美国的雷神和洛克希德马丁公司提供的爱国者系统,俄罗斯 Rosoboronexport提供的出口型的S-300系统以及意大利-法国联合的欧洲导弹公司的紫苑-30系统。

Under strong pressure from NATO allies who said that a Chinese system could not be made interoperable with NATO assets on Turkish soil, Turkey opened parallel talks with the US and European contenders.
在北约盟友的关于中国系统无法与北约部署在土耳其的装置共联通用的巨大压力之下,土耳其重新开启了与美国和欧洲竞标商的对话。

The Ankara government Nov. 13 scrapped the competition and tasked two local companies to build an indigenous system instead.
安卡拉政府在今年11月13日放弃了这一竞标采购项目,授权两家本地公司自主研发制造远程导弹防御系统。

Military electronics specialist Aselsan, Turkey’s biggest defense company, and missile maker Roketsan, both state-controlled, will develop the system. But there are concerns the work may take too long.
土耳其最大的防务公司,专门开发军用电子系统的Aselsan公司和导弹制造商Roketsan将负责开发这一系统,他们都是国有的。但是让人担忧的是这一工作将会花费很长时间。

“We share the military’s concerns that our requirement may be too urgent to wait for the indigenous system in the making,” said one procurement official familiar with the program. “We may have to buy two systems off the shelf.” The original program was for the acquisition of four systems.
“我们和军方有着一样的担忧,我们的需求如此紧迫以至于不可能等候国产系统的生产,”一位熟悉这一项目的采购官员说道。“我们可能不得不采购两套现可用的系统。”这一项目原本计划需求是四套系统。

So, the competition  is not over although it may have shrunk by half.
所以,竞标并没有结束,尽管数目减半、

“The natural contenders in the new race will be the same US and European groups,” said one industry source. “Delivery timetables will be crucial since Turkey consider this as an urgent buy.”
新的招标竞争者对象将是美国和欧洲同样的公司,”来自工业部门的消息显示。“因为这是土耳其的一项紧急采购,所以交付计划时间表很重要。”

The US consortium commits to deliver the Patriot system within 40 months and the European group commits to deliver the SAMP/T (Aster 30) system in 18 months.
美国团体承诺爱国者系统可以在40个月内交付,而欧洲导弹公司承诺紫苑-30系统可以在18个月内交付

“The delivery timetable for the SAMP/T does not look realistic,” said the procurement official. “A more realistic timetable for that system could instead be 30 months.”
“紫苑-30系统的交付时间表看起来不真实,”采购官员说。“这一系统真实的交付时间应该大约在30个月。”

After consultations with government officials the military top brass will press for an urgent stopgap solution.
在与政府官员协商以后,军队高层官将会强力促进这一紧急临时方案的进行。

“We will explain to the political leadership in great detail why we must have some [long-range] systems before any indigenous system emerges,” said the military official.
“我们用大量详细的理由向政治领导层解释为什么我们需要在任何国产系统出现之前获得一些远程导弹防御系统,”军队官员说。

欧洲军火商可以大幅提高售价
貌似可以尽快发货的只有兔子了,只要钱到位一年内应该没问题,实在不行把国内订单转过去几个月就可以。
可以先租应急,以后再买嘛。。。
别怂啊,f16不是会伏击吗
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土狗想用红9压价的目的看来泡汤了,欧美压根没降价,现在只能改为买一半。no zuo no die!
辽海秋风起 发表于 2015-12-14 14:04
貌似可以尽快发货的只有兔子了,只要钱到位一年内应该没问题,实在不行把国内订单转过去几个月就可以。
欧洲国内订单又不多,直接同批次插进去也可以保证交货嘛……

其实呢,欧美都可以快速发货,毕竟北约内部武器修改量小。
两套够干什么呢?只能刷刷存在感。
没了土鳖搅局,土鸡就是被玩的。
意法交货的速度也是醉了。
红酒现货卖给希腊。
别为了那几个钱,,把远程防空系统卖给土鸡,,
土鸡有啥权力质疑,赶紧拿钱,钱拿晚了都不行,小姐的理想丫鬟的命,说的就是土鸡
貌似可以尽快发货的只有兔子了,只要钱到位一年内应该没问题,实在不行把国内订单转过去几个月就可以。
现在出60亿刀12个月交货可以考虑
一个营100亿刀莱,不带技术转让,不带零配件,不带培训,爱要不要。
大国梦也就是个梦,土鸡还是土鸡
现在不可能卖红酒给土鸡,估计不转让技术就是兔子想不卖的借口,这时候卖土鸡红酒就是抽毛子
辽海秋风起 发表于 2015-12-14 14:04
貌似可以尽快发货的只有兔子了,只要钱到位一年内应该没问题,实在不行把国内订单转过去几个月就可以。
不可能改都不改就把原货给北约国家啊,改的话,肯定也要花很多时间的。
圈阅,现在就是土鸡国立即付钱咱也不交货了!
土鸡就是土鸡,木有转良眼光。
当初直接买下,然后用红酒打下俄罗斯战机。
哪来这么多屁事
momoranshi 发表于 2015-12-14 21:57
当初直接买下,然后用红酒打下俄罗斯战机。
哪来这么多屁事

估计当初中国出口武器审核的时候绝对想不到有朝一日老土会跟老毛干上,世事难料
不大宰土鸡一把实在对不起安拉
还好当初没卖红酒给土鸡,不然现在确实对不起毛子了。我鳖跟毛毛熊也不是啥事都能统一意见,但就最近发生的几件事来说,必须无条件墙裂支持毛毛熊
还好当初没卖红酒给土鸡,不然现在确实对不起毛子了。我鳖跟毛毛熊也不是啥事都能统一意见,但就最近发生的 ...
我很担心猴子手中的基洛苏30让毛子对不起我们
号角 发表于 2015-12-14 22:47
估计当初中国出口武器审核的时候绝对想不到有朝一日老土会跟老毛干上,世事难料
老毛子拿着S-300去竞标的时候,也没想过土耳其会捅自己菊花吧
teenage3dream 发表于 2015-12-14 14:25
可以先租应急,以后再买嘛。。。
你租给土鸡神马蛋蛋?肉蛋!!!呵呵。你是牛人!!!
给多少钱也不能卖给土鸡,不守信用道德败坏支持东突!
把自己玩进去了
好嘛,以前都是西方战机摧毁毛制地面防空武器
现在看看毛制战机能不能轻松摧毁西方地面防空武器,不能的话,毛子武器离垃圾也不远了