超级军网9月15日歼轰-7在黄海空域拦截美军RC-135时做出“不安全 ...
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五角大楼证实9月15日在山东半岛以东约80英里处黄海空域，中国歼轰7在逼近RC-135侦察机进行拦截时，做出“不安全”机动。http://breakingdefense.com/2015/09/rivet-joint-crew-reports-unsafe-move-by-chinese-jet-mccain-weighs-in/
《华盛顿自由灯塔》：9月15日，一架解放军战机在黄海空域拦截一架美军RC-135，双方几乎相撞。http://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-jet-in-second-near-collision-with-u-s-spy-plane/
五角大楼证实9月15日在山东半岛以东约80英里处黄海空域，中国歼轰7在逼近RC-135侦察机进行拦截时，做出“不安全”机动。http://breakingdefense.com/2015/09/rivet-joint-crew-reports-unsafe-move-by-chinese-jet-mccain-weighs-in/
《华盛顿自由灯塔》：9月15日，一架解放军战机在黄海空域拦截一架美军RC-135，双方几乎相撞。http://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-jet-in-second-near-collision-with-u-s-spy-plane/
Chinese Jet in Second Near-Collision with U.S. Spy Plane
PLA jet flies close to nose of RC-135 over Yellow Sea
September 22, 2015 5:00 am
A Chinese interceptor jet conducted a second dangerous pass near a U.S. surveillance aircraft over Asian waters—weeks before a state visit to the United States by Chinese leader Xi Jinping that begins Tuesday.
The latest incident took place Sept. 15 over the Yellow Sea, not far north from Japan’s Senkaku Islands, when a Chinese interceptor flew in front of an RC-135 electronic intelligence-gathering jet, nearly colliding with the aircraft.
It was the second time a Chinese aircraft nearly collided with a U.S. surveillance jet. The last incident took place in August 2014 over the nearby South China Sea.
Pentagon and U.S. Pacific Command spokesmen declined to provide details of the latest encounter but did not dispute that it took place.
“I have nothing for you regarding the incident you mention,” said Cmdr. Bill Urban, a Pentagon spokesman.
The latest U.S.-China aerial confrontation was mentioned indirectly by Adm. Harry Harris, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command, during Senate Armed Services Committee testimony last week.
Harris called the 2014 incident “a very dangerous event,” referring to the barrel roll conducted by a Chinese jet over the top of a P-8 maritime surveillance aircraft as “a dangerous maneuver in acrobatic circles, let along in an intercept regime in an open ocean.”
“And we most recently have seen that again, but I’ll give the system credit for that intervening period of time, we’ve seen very few dangerous activities by the Chinese following that August 2014 incident,” Harris said.
Harris, without mentioning the RC-135 incident, said the decline in dangerous aerial encounters until the latest incident was due to military and political relationships worked out with the Chinese.
Asked about a second recent dangerous aerial encounter mentioned by the admiral, a Pacific Command spokesman at first said “there is no new P-8 incident.”
Questioned later about the RC-135 incident, the spokesman, Capt. Darryn James, refused to provide details and referred questions to the Pentagon.
Two Pentagon officials, speaking on background, described the Yellow Sea encounter as a dangerous and unprofessional aerial intercept that was similar to the 2014 near collision between a Chinese J-11 interceptor and Navy P-8 maritime patrol aircraft in the nearby South China Sea.
The J-11 came within 50 feet of the P-8 as it was conducting surveillance, in an attempt to coerce the surveillance aircraft to depart.
In the recent incident, the Chinese interceptor crossed very close to the nose of the RC-135 near the Senkaku Islands—the location of a major dispute over ownership of the islands located south of Japan’s Okinawa and north of Taiwan.
Disclosure of the dangerous Chinese jet encounter comes a day before Xi begins an official state visit to the United States. The incident is likely to embarrass the Communist Party secretary who arrives in Seattle on Tuesday. He is scheduled to meet President Obama later this week.
Xi’s visit is also expected to raise two contentious issues: large-scale Chinese hacking of U.S. government and private-sector databases and the theft of data on tens of millions of Americans. China also has raised tensions as a result of disputes over maritime claims in the South China Sea and East China Sea.
Xi is also contending with a wavering Chinese economy that has caused stock markets around the world to drop sharply in recent weeks.
The Chinese leader, who recently was seen in a major military parade riding in the back of a limousine as he reviewed thousands of Chinese troops, tanks, missiles, and aircraft, will be hosted at a White House state dinner, an honor normally reserved for U.S. allies.
The dangerous aerial encounter is a setback for the Pentagon’s aggressive military diplomacy with China, which President Obama has made a centerpiece of Pentagon policy.
Critics in Congress, including Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.), the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), chairman of the House Armed Services subcommittee on sea power, have called on the Obama administration to cut back on military exchanges that are not producing results.
The Pentagon recently concluded an agreement outlining what it calls rules of the road for encounters at sea that are designed to prevent further dangerous ship-to-ship incidents like the 2013 near-collision in the South China Sea.
On Dec. 5, 2013, a Chinese amphibious ship sailed directly in front of the guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens and stopped, forcing the Cowpens to sharply alter course to avoid hitting the Chinese vessel.
The Obama administration announced at the November 2014 summit between Obama and Xi that the Pentagon and Chinese military had concluded a memorandum of understanding on “rules of behavior” for the safety of air and sea encounters.
Pentagon officials have said the rules for maritime encounters are clearer than those for aerial intercepts.
Talks in Beijing on the aerial rules have been bogged down in Chinese demands that the United States halt all aerial surveillance near China’s coasts, something the Pentagon so far has refused to accept.
Harris, the Pacom commander, said last week that he has ordered his component commanders to continue to conduct operations when challenged by Chinese jets or naval forces.
“What I’ve told the component commanders of the Pacific fleet and Pacific air forces to tell their pilots and crews to do is to continue to insist on our right to operate in international airspace and maritime space,” Harris said.
“When challenged by Chinese fighter aircraft, our aircraft ought to maintain a professional flight profiles, predictable flight profiles, and we have the means to record that activity and then we’ll see what happens.”
The area where the incident occurred has been the focus of a major dispute between Beijing and Tokyo over the ownership of the Senkakus.
Senior U.S. officials, while claiming neutrality in Asian maritime disputes, have invoked the U.S.-Japan defense treaty several times in recent years, stating that U.S. forces would defend Japan if the islands are attacked.
Further heightening tensions, China in November 2013 unilaterally imposed an air defense identification zone over the East China Sea, claiming control over a security zone covering the Senkakus and several South Korean islands.
China is claiming ownership of the Senkakus, which it calls the “Diaoyu Islands,” though they have been under Japanese authority for decades. The waters around the islands are believed to contain large reserves of undersea gas and oil coveted by both countries.
The Chinese have demanded that all aircraft entering the zone seek permission and submit flight plans. China has threatened to use military forces to enforce the zone, but so far has not done so.
The United States, Japan, and South Korea have said they do not recognize the air defense zone.
Officials said the most recent aerial encounter between the United States and China was less dangerous than the 2014 encounter between the J-11 and the P-8.
The Pentagon called the 2014 intercept “aggressive” and “dangerous” and threatened to cut off military relations with the People’s Liberation Army unless the maneuvers were halted.
Defense officials have said that aerial intercepts remain an unresolved issue between the two countries. National Security Adviser Susan Rice, during a visit to Beijing last fall, was told by Chinese officials that China is demanding that the United States halt all surveillance flights along Chinese coasts.
Urban, the Pentagon spokesman, while not providing details of the Yellow Sea incident, defended the Pentagon’s efforts to seek to lower the risk of dangerous encounters.
“The department has made tremendous progress with respect to reducing risk between our operational forces and those of the People’s Republic of China (PRC),” Urban said.
“Over the past year, we have seen improvements in PRC behavior, specifically the safety and professionalism with which they intercept our aircraft.”
Additionally, the Pentagon has “robust, existing mechanisms to deal with incidents between our operating forces, such as the Military Maritime Consultative Agreement,” he said.
Rick Fisher, a China military analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the latest aerial encounter should not go unchallenged.
“Threatening intercepts over the East and South China seas require a very firm U.S. response,” Fisher said.
“The first step should be increased flights. But there must also be a deliberate program of expanding air defense cooperation with Japan and the Philippines.”
Fisher urged states in the region to conduct joint aircraft deployments to Japanese air fields in the Sakishima Islands and said that the United States should offer the Philippines air defense systems and training to bolster its defenses.
Update 11:30 A.M.: An earlier version of this post incorrectly stated that the recent near collision between a Chinese interceptor and a U.S. RC-135 took place over the East China Sea. The incident took place over the Yellow Sea. The story has also been updated with the information that the Yellow Sea incident occurred on Sept. 15.
PLA jet flies close to nose of RC-135 over Yellow Sea
September 22, 2015 5:00 am
A Chinese interceptor jet conducted a second dangerous pass near a U.S. surveillance aircraft over Asian waters—weeks before a state visit to the United States by Chinese leader Xi Jinping that begins Tuesday.
The latest incident took place Sept. 15 over the Yellow Sea, not far north from Japan’s Senkaku Islands, when a Chinese interceptor flew in front of an RC-135 electronic intelligence-gathering jet, nearly colliding with the aircraft.
It was the second time a Chinese aircraft nearly collided with a U.S. surveillance jet. The last incident took place in August 2014 over the nearby South China Sea.
Pentagon and U.S. Pacific Command spokesmen declined to provide details of the latest encounter but did not dispute that it took place.
“I have nothing for you regarding the incident you mention,” said Cmdr. Bill Urban, a Pentagon spokesman.
The latest U.S.-China aerial confrontation was mentioned indirectly by Adm. Harry Harris, commander of the U.S. Pacific Command, during Senate Armed Services Committee testimony last week.
Harris called the 2014 incident “a very dangerous event,” referring to the barrel roll conducted by a Chinese jet over the top of a P-8 maritime surveillance aircraft as “a dangerous maneuver in acrobatic circles, let along in an intercept regime in an open ocean.”
“And we most recently have seen that again, but I’ll give the system credit for that intervening period of time, we’ve seen very few dangerous activities by the Chinese following that August 2014 incident,” Harris said.
Harris, without mentioning the RC-135 incident, said the decline in dangerous aerial encounters until the latest incident was due to military and political relationships worked out with the Chinese.
Asked about a second recent dangerous aerial encounter mentioned by the admiral, a Pacific Command spokesman at first said “there is no new P-8 incident.”
Questioned later about the RC-135 incident, the spokesman, Capt. Darryn James, refused to provide details and referred questions to the Pentagon.
Two Pentagon officials, speaking on background, described the Yellow Sea encounter as a dangerous and unprofessional aerial intercept that was similar to the 2014 near collision between a Chinese J-11 interceptor and Navy P-8 maritime patrol aircraft in the nearby South China Sea.
The J-11 came within 50 feet of the P-8 as it was conducting surveillance, in an attempt to coerce the surveillance aircraft to depart.
In the recent incident, the Chinese interceptor crossed very close to the nose of the RC-135 near the Senkaku Islands—the location of a major dispute over ownership of the islands located south of Japan’s Okinawa and north of Taiwan.
Disclosure of the dangerous Chinese jet encounter comes a day before Xi begins an official state visit to the United States. The incident is likely to embarrass the Communist Party secretary who arrives in Seattle on Tuesday. He is scheduled to meet President Obama later this week.
Xi’s visit is also expected to raise two contentious issues: large-scale Chinese hacking of U.S. government and private-sector databases and the theft of data on tens of millions of Americans. China also has raised tensions as a result of disputes over maritime claims in the South China Sea and East China Sea.
Xi is also contending with a wavering Chinese economy that has caused stock markets around the world to drop sharply in recent weeks.
The Chinese leader, who recently was seen in a major military parade riding in the back of a limousine as he reviewed thousands of Chinese troops, tanks, missiles, and aircraft, will be hosted at a White House state dinner, an honor normally reserved for U.S. allies.
The dangerous aerial encounter is a setback for the Pentagon’s aggressive military diplomacy with China, which President Obama has made a centerpiece of Pentagon policy.
Critics in Congress, including Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.), the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and Rep. Randy Forbes (R., Va.), chairman of the House Armed Services subcommittee on sea power, have called on the Obama administration to cut back on military exchanges that are not producing results.
The Pentagon recently concluded an agreement outlining what it calls rules of the road for encounters at sea that are designed to prevent further dangerous ship-to-ship incidents like the 2013 near-collision in the South China Sea.
On Dec. 5, 2013, a Chinese amphibious ship sailed directly in front of the guided missile cruiser USS Cowpens and stopped, forcing the Cowpens to sharply alter course to avoid hitting the Chinese vessel.
The Obama administration announced at the November 2014 summit between Obama and Xi that the Pentagon and Chinese military had concluded a memorandum of understanding on “rules of behavior” for the safety of air and sea encounters.
Pentagon officials have said the rules for maritime encounters are clearer than those for aerial intercepts.
Talks in Beijing on the aerial rules have been bogged down in Chinese demands that the United States halt all aerial surveillance near China’s coasts, something the Pentagon so far has refused to accept.
Harris, the Pacom commander, said last week that he has ordered his component commanders to continue to conduct operations when challenged by Chinese jets or naval forces.
“What I’ve told the component commanders of the Pacific fleet and Pacific air forces to tell their pilots and crews to do is to continue to insist on our right to operate in international airspace and maritime space,” Harris said.
“When challenged by Chinese fighter aircraft, our aircraft ought to maintain a professional flight profiles, predictable flight profiles, and we have the means to record that activity and then we’ll see what happens.”
The area where the incident occurred has been the focus of a major dispute between Beijing and Tokyo over the ownership of the Senkakus.
Senior U.S. officials, while claiming neutrality in Asian maritime disputes, have invoked the U.S.-Japan defense treaty several times in recent years, stating that U.S. forces would defend Japan if the islands are attacked.
Further heightening tensions, China in November 2013 unilaterally imposed an air defense identification zone over the East China Sea, claiming control over a security zone covering the Senkakus and several South Korean islands.
China is claiming ownership of the Senkakus, which it calls the “Diaoyu Islands,” though they have been under Japanese authority for decades. The waters around the islands are believed to contain large reserves of undersea gas and oil coveted by both countries.
The Chinese have demanded that all aircraft entering the zone seek permission and submit flight plans. China has threatened to use military forces to enforce the zone, but so far has not done so.
The United States, Japan, and South Korea have said they do not recognize the air defense zone.
Officials said the most recent aerial encounter between the United States and China was less dangerous than the 2014 encounter between the J-11 and the P-8.
The Pentagon called the 2014 intercept “aggressive” and “dangerous” and threatened to cut off military relations with the People’s Liberation Army unless the maneuvers were halted.
Defense officials have said that aerial intercepts remain an unresolved issue between the two countries. National Security Adviser Susan Rice, during a visit to Beijing last fall, was told by Chinese officials that China is demanding that the United States halt all surveillance flights along Chinese coasts.
Urban, the Pentagon spokesman, while not providing details of the Yellow Sea incident, defended the Pentagon’s efforts to seek to lower the risk of dangerous encounters.
“The department has made tremendous progress with respect to reducing risk between our operational forces and those of the People’s Republic of China (PRC),” Urban said.
“Over the past year, we have seen improvements in PRC behavior, specifically the safety and professionalism with which they intercept our aircraft.”
Additionally, the Pentagon has “robust, existing mechanisms to deal with incidents between our operating forces, such as the Military Maritime Consultative Agreement,” he said.
Rick Fisher, a China military analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said the latest aerial encounter should not go unchallenged.
“Threatening intercepts over the East and South China seas require a very firm U.S. response,” Fisher said.
“The first step should be increased flights. But there must also be a deliberate program of expanding air defense cooperation with Japan and the Philippines.”
Fisher urged states in the region to conduct joint aircraft deployments to Japanese air fields in the Sakishima Islands and said that the United States should offer the Philippines air defense systems and training to bolster its defenses.
Update 11:30 A.M.: An earlier version of this post incorrectly stated that the recent near collision between a Chinese interceptor and a U.S. RC-135 took place over the East China Sea. The incident took place over the Yellow Sea. The story has also been updated with the information that the Yellow Sea incident occurred on Sept. 15.
打它狗日的！！！
就是该强硬对待，
150公里也叫“不远”？这TM都到浙江沿海了
东海防空识别区的正常行为
防空识别区外沿吧！？
就该利刃剖腹
！～！！！！
！～！！！！
开玩笑了。
下次飞到前面撒箔条，加粗的。,
王伟烈士留下的震撼。
这个所谓媒体听名字就不靠谱
华盛顿自由灯塔——这个报纸的名字很眼熟啊
漂流的顽石 发表于 2015-9-23 00:04
Chinese Jet in Second Near-Collision with U.S. Spy Plane
PLA jet flies close to nose of RC-135 over ...
来试俺们的胆量了
Chinese Jet in Second Near-Collision with U.S. Spy Plane
PLA jet flies close to nose of RC-135 over ...
来试俺们的胆量了
还是等国内媒体确认消息，外媒都是胡扯淡
老大访美，右派制造点杂音很正常
antiboy9493 发表于 2015-9-22 11:49
这个所谓媒体听名字就不靠谱
华盛顿自由灯塔是著名的，典型的极右自由主义报纸，有很多五角大楼线人。
这个所谓媒体听名字就不靠谱
华盛顿自由灯塔是著名的，典型的极右自由主义报纸，有很多五角大楼线人。
最近的事件发生于黄海，位于
我只想说，这记者纯粹是放他x的狗p
也给它sorry一次。它不是不吃亏，睚龇必报吗。
coolcucumber 发表于 2015-9-23 02:15
看到原文里这句
“The latest incident took place Sept. 15 over the Yellow Sea, not far north from...
晕死，这报纸。。。。想利用这么离谱的地理常识错误，刻意误导地球人，帮日本摇旗呐喊，点燃亚洲这火药桶？
coolcucumber 发表于 2015-9-23 02:15
看到原文里这句
“The latest incident took place Sept. 15 over the Yellow Sea, not far north from...
晕死，这报纸。。。。想利用这么离谱的地理常识错误，刻意误导地球人，帮日本摇旗呐喊，点燃亚洲这火药桶？
HFH 发表于 2015-9-23 00:04
打它狗日的！！！
公海上空 贴近飞行监视就足够了 开火还真不行
打它狗日的！！！
公海上空 贴近飞行监视就足够了 开火还真不行
这就是一个没事找事的媒体
都到黄海了，狗日的。
你们好调皮
国内媒体压根不会报道的~~原因是因为习近平访美要管控分歧...上次莱斯访华的具体谈论内容媒体都不说，因为很多分歧，明显和谐了~
华盛顿自由灯塔——这个报纸的名字很眼熟啊
爆料专业户，而且还挺准的
爆料专业户，而且还挺准的
Second Near-Collision是什么
清客道人 发表于 2015-9-23 07:53
这就是一个没事找事的媒体
给奥巴马添堵呗
这就是一个没事找事的媒体
给奥巴马添堵呗
官方目前拒絕證實
Pentagon and U.S. Pacific Command spokesmen declined to provide details of the latest encounter but did not dispute that it took place.
“I have nothing for you regarding the incident you mention,” said Cmdr. Bill Urban, a Pentagon spokesman.
Pentagon and U.S. Pacific Command spokesmen declined to provide details of the latest encounter but did not dispute that it took place.
“I have nothing for you regarding the incident you mention,” said Cmdr. Bill Urban, a Pentagon spokesman.
华盛顿—
就在中国国家即将抵达美国首都华盛顿之际，美国国防部证实收到了有关美军电子侦察机的机组人员指责中国战机实施近距离“不安全”拦截的报告。
美国国防部发言人、海军中校比尔·厄本星期二（9月22日）通过电子邮件证实，国防部正在审议美国太平洋司令部有关9月15日一架美国RC-135飞机被中华人民共和国两家歼轰-7飞机拦截的报告。
歼轰-7拦截RC-135
厄本在电邮中说，“有关事件发生在黄海上方的国际领空，位于山东半岛以东约80英里，并不靠近尖阁诸岛。” 中国称位于东中国海的尖阁诸岛为钓鱼岛。
厄本中校说，“拦截期间，一架中国飞机所作的动作之一被RC-135机组人员视为不安全的。此刻，没有迹象显示发生过媒体报道所表示的‘险些相撞’。”
在2015年9月3日大阅兵期间飞过北京上空的歼轰-7战机。在2015年9月3日大阅兵期间飞过北京上空的歼轰-7战机。
厄本说，五角大楼此刻还没有对这次拦截事件做最后的定性，“国防部正在审议美国太平洋司令部的报告，并将采取相应行动。”
他说，必须指出的是，美国国防部在减少美中两军风险方面取得了巨大进步。
一位美国国防部官员说，那一不安全的动作涉及中国飞机从RC-135飞机的机头大约500英尺的距离飞过。
国防部发言人彼得·库克稍早之前说，最新这起近距离空中相遇事件不比去年8月两军飞机险些相撞的事件更加严重。在那次事件中，美国海军一架最先进的P-8A型侦察机在南中国海上空遇到中国战机的近距离拦截和威胁，两机险些相撞。
在2001年一次类似的事件中，一架中国歼-8和一架美国EP-3侦察机相撞，导致中方机毁人亡，美军飞机受损后迫降海南岛，引发双边关系的一场重大危机。
双方各执己见 空中相遇准则能否阻止撞机？
去年11月在美国总统奥巴马访问北京期间，两国元首答应推动制定两军意外相遇的行为准则。稍早前，美国和中国军方都表示，中美两国就空中相遇安全行为准则的谈判取得了进展。
一些安全分析人士说，两军意外相遇行为准则不能阻止中国有意近距离拦截美军侦察飞机和舰船。
美军称在中国近海的公海上活动符合国际惯例，并且会继续下去。中国坚称不会停止对抵近侦察的美军飞机和军舰实施拦截和反制。
wangxiaohrbeu1 发表于 2015-9-23 07:45
公海上空 贴近飞行监视就足够了 开火还真不行
开火就免了，可以用无人机撞，空中交通事故而已。
公海上空 贴近飞行监视就足够了 开火还真不行
开火就免了，可以用无人机撞，空中交通事故而已。
你妹的，又准备被手术刀了？无人机撞他这办法不错。
这家报纸透着浓浓的保守主义 连上次是那种飞机撞的都不知道，还J11....
这家报纸透着浓浓的保守主义 连上次是那种飞机撞的都不知道，还J11....
再嘚瑟就玩空中手术刀！
嗯，飞豹去也挺好，油量大留空时间长，适合干这种活，回程顺带演练一下海上低空突击什么的科目
这下逼着北海舰队换J-10或者J-11了，豹子都出来驱逐了
好，应该鼓励敢打敢拼的军人血性。
嗯，飞豹去也挺好，油量大留空时间长，适合干这种活，回程顺带演练一下海上低空突击什么的科目
豹子干不了垂尾切JJ的，还是筷子好
豹子干不了垂尾切JJ的，还是筷子好
pepsi7u 发表于 2015-9-23 12:08
豹子干不了垂尾切JJ的，还是筷子好
空中监视驱逐都是有一套标准动作的，而且中美之间肯定会达成空中相遇处置协议，危险动作对双方都没有好处，不要动不动就想着用尾翼去切别人
豹子干不了垂尾切JJ的，还是筷子好
空中监视驱逐都是有一套标准动作的，而且中美之间肯定会达成空中相遇处置协议，危险动作对双方都没有好处，不要动不动就想着用尾翼去切别人
希望下次是”关岛“
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