中航工业执行副主席 李玉海在巴黎2015航展证实枭龙在测 ...

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Paris Air Show 2015: JF-17 fighter flying with indigenous Chinese turbofan

Key Points
Chinese officials at the Paris Air Show have said flight-testing of a new indigenous engine for the JF-17 Thunder is under way
Officials also confirmed that the Sino-Pakistani-developed aircraft had achieved its first international sale, although they did not disclose the custome

A senior Chinese aviation official has revealed that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation FC-1/JF-17 fighter co-developed with Pakistan has been test-flown with a new Chinese medium-thrust turbofan engine.

Li Yuhai, an executive vice president with the Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC), told IHS Jane's at the Paris Airshow that a new Chinese turbofan for the J-17 has been "under testing," has completed "lab tests", and that "flight testing is in progress". He also said that the new engine would have a thrust slightly greater than the 8.7-ton thrust of the JF-17's current Klimov RD-93 turbofan.

At a joint Sino-Pakistani press conference on 15 June, Li also said progress was being made on the twin-seat version of the JF 17.

Pakistani sources at Paris confirmed that a JF-17 has been flying with the new Chinese turbofan, which could be revealed publicly "very soon". There is a suggestion the engine could be named 'WS-17' to complement the JF-17b, but officials did not provide any further performance indicators.

One Chinese medium-thrust turbofan programme long reported as slated for the FC-1/JF-17 has been called the WS-13 and reportedly flew in 2010. It has been developed with help from Russia's Klimov and is reportedly based on its RD-33 turbofan.

While previous reports mentioned development difficulties with the WS-13, the willingness of Chinese officials to talk publicly about this engine suggests a higher level of confidence in its prospects.

At the 2008 Airshow China in Zhuhai the Chengdu Gas Turbine Research Institute revealed it was developing a 9.5 ton-thrust turbofan and showed a possible model at the same show. It is not known if this is the engine that is now being test flown on a JF-17.

Despite the news of the new engine testing, Pakistani officials at Paris said they remain satisfied with the Klimov RD-93. In 2010 China obtained a Russian commitment to meet a potential requirement of up to 500 RD-93 engines to support the JF-17 programme. This figure would support Pakistan's requirements for up to 275 JF-17s plus international exports.

A Pakistani official also confirmed reports that the first export contract for the JF-17 has been signed. The official would only say that the contract had been signed in the first half of 2015 but would not name the customer.

Pakistani officials say they are having "serious" discussions with 11 countries, including Argentina, which a source confirmed is interested in co-producing the JF-17.

In its first appearance at Paris, the JF-17 is also accompanied by two new weapon options. One is the C-705KD missile, an IIR/TV-guided ground-attack version of the 140-170 km-range C-705 that was revealed at the 2012 Zhuhai airshow. A Pakistani source said up to four C-705KDs could be carried by the JF-17.

The second new weapon displayed with the JF-17 for the first time is the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) CM-102 anti-radiation missile. Revealed at the 2014 Zhuhai show, it has an advertised range of 100 km. A Pakistani source noted that other versions could have 50% to 70% further range.

Making its second international appearance was the CASIC CM-400AKG Mach-5 speed ground attack missile. A Pakistani official noted it did not have "passive" guidance, which might enable attacks against mobile targets such as ships, but has inertial navigational system/GPS guidance for attacking fixed targets.

Asked whether the CM-400AKG was in Pakistani service an official responded with a pointed "no comment".

Pakistan has produced 50 Block 1 versions of the JF-17 and has started production of 50 Block 2 versions. Officials said that discussions are underway with China for a Block 3 version that will include an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar that is being developed by the Nanjing Research of Electronic Technology (NRIST).

Pakistani officials noted it could be based on NRIST's AESA radar developed for the Chengdu J-10B fighter but would not confirm any relation between the two systems. The Block 3 JF-17 will also incorporate a helmet-mounted display and a possible internal infrared search and tracking (IRST) system.

以下是本人蹩脚的翻译:

巴黎航展2015:jf - 17战斗机与中国产中推涡扇发动机

       中国官员在巴黎航空展上表示jf - 17“雷电”正在进行新的自主引擎的飞行测试,也证实了jf - 17“雷电”飞机已实现了第一个国际销售,但是,他们没有透露客户是谁。
       中国航空的一位高级官员透露,成都飞机公司与巴基斯坦正在fc - 1枭龙/ jf - 17战斗机上联合试飞了一个新的中国产中推涡扇发动机。
       中航工业执行副主席 李玉海,在巴黎航展上对简氏说,一个新的中国产涡扇发动机一直在jf -17下测试,目前已完成“实验室测试”,而“正在进行飞行测试中”。他还说,新引擎推力将略大于8.7吨的jf - 17的当前推力--克里莫夫rd - 93涡扇发动机。
       6月15日中巴联合新闻发布会上,李玉海还说双座版jf -17已经在计划中了。
       巴基斯坦在巴黎消息来源证实,在jf - 17试飞中国产新涡扇的消息可能很快公开。有一个建议该引擎可以命名为“WS-17”,用于JF-17b,但官员没有提供该引擎任何进一步的性能指标。
       有一个用于fc - 1 / jf - 17的中国中推涡扇发动机长期计划的发动机,据称为WS-13,据报道其在2010年试飞。据说该发动机是在俄罗斯克里莫夫集团的帮助下和是基于rd - 33的涡扇发动机发展而来。
       虽然以前的报告提到WS-13发展困难,现在中国官员愿意公开谈论这个引擎表明更高层次对其前景的信心。
      在2008年珠海航展上,中国成都发动机研究所展示了推力9.5吨中推涡扇发动机模型。现在还不清楚是否是该发动机在jf - 17上测试飞行。
      尽管有新引擎测试的消息,巴基斯坦官员在巴黎表示,他们仍然满意克里莫夫rd - 93。2010年,中国获得了俄罗斯承诺满足潜在需求500 rd - 93引擎以支持jf - 17的计划。这个数字将支持巴基斯坦的要求至多275架jf - 17战机加上国际出口。
       巴基 斯坦官员报告也证实签订了第一个jf - 17出口合同。官方只是说合同已经在2015年上半年签署,但不会透露客户名称。
       巴基斯坦官员说他们正在认真的与包括阿根廷在内的11个国家洽谈jf - 17的出口合同。
       第一次出现在巴黎航展上,jf - 17也带来了两个可供选择的新武器。第一个是c - 705 kd的导弹,它是140 - 170公里射程的电视 /红外制导空对地版本的c - 705,在2012年珠海航展已经展示过。巴基斯坦的一个消息人士称jf - 17可以携带4 枚c - 705 kd。
      第二个新武器是中国航天科工集团公司(CASIC)cm - 102反辐射导弹。 在2014年珠海展示过,它有100公里的射程范围。巴基斯坦来源指出,其他的版本可能进一步提升50%到70%的射程范围。
      使其具有国际水准的是CASIC CM-400AKG 5马赫速度对面攻击导弹。巴基斯坦官员指出它可通过主动制导攻击移动目标,如战舰,也可利用惯性导航系统/ GPS制导攻击固定目标。
      当询问CM-400AKG 详情时,巴基斯坦服务官方回应指出“无可奉告”。
     巴基斯坦已经生产了50架Block1.0版本的jf - 17和已经开始生产另50架Block2.0的版本。官员表示,正与中国的谈判Block3.0版本,它将包括一个有源电子扫描阵列(AESA)雷达,是由南京电子技术研究所(NRIST)研制。
     巴基斯坦官员指出这可能是基于NRIST开发的成都j - 10 b战机 AESA雷达,但不愿证实任何两个系统之间的关系。jf - 17Block3.0版本还将包含一个头盔显示器和一个可能的内部红外搜索和跟踪(IRST)系统。

http://www.janes.com/article/523 ... us-chinese-turbofan
Paris Air Show 2015: JF-17 fighter flying with indigenous Chinese turbofan

Key Points
Chinese officials at the Paris Air Show have said flight-testing of a new indigenous engine for the JF-17 Thunder is under way
Officials also confirmed that the Sino-Pakistani-developed aircraft had achieved its first international sale, although they did not disclose the custome

A senior Chinese aviation official has revealed that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation FC-1/JF-17 fighter co-developed with Pakistan has been test-flown with a new Chinese medium-thrust turbofan engine.

Li Yuhai, an executive vice president with the Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC), told IHS Jane's at the Paris Airshow that a new Chinese turbofan for the J-17 has been "under testing," has completed "lab tests", and that "flight testing is in progress". He also said that the new engine would have a thrust slightly greater than the 8.7-ton thrust of the JF-17's current Klimov RD-93 turbofan.

At a joint Sino-Pakistani press conference on 15 June, Li also said progress was being made on the twin-seat version of the JF 17.

Pakistani sources at Paris confirmed that a JF-17 has been flying with the new Chinese turbofan, which could be revealed publicly "very soon". There is a suggestion the engine could be named 'WS-17' to complement the JF-17b, but officials did not provide any further performance indicators.

One Chinese medium-thrust turbofan programme long reported as slated for the FC-1/JF-17 has been called the WS-13 and reportedly flew in 2010. It has been developed with help from Russia's Klimov and is reportedly based on its RD-33 turbofan.

While previous reports mentioned development difficulties with the WS-13, the willingness of Chinese officials to talk publicly about this engine suggests a higher level of confidence in its prospects.

At the 2008 Airshow China in Zhuhai the Chengdu Gas Turbine Research Institute revealed it was developing a 9.5 ton-thrust turbofan and showed a possible model at the same show. It is not known if this is the engine that is now being test flown on a JF-17.

Despite the news of the new engine testing, Pakistani officials at Paris said they remain satisfied with the Klimov RD-93. In 2010 China obtained a Russian commitment to meet a potential requirement of up to 500 RD-93 engines to support the JF-17 programme. This figure would support Pakistan's requirements for up to 275 JF-17s plus international exports.

A Pakistani official also confirmed reports that the first export contract for the JF-17 has been signed. The official would only say that the contract had been signed in the first half of 2015 but would not name the customer.

Pakistani officials say they are having "serious" discussions with 11 countries, including Argentina, which a source confirmed is interested in co-producing the JF-17.

In its first appearance at Paris, the JF-17 is also accompanied by two new weapon options. One is the C-705KD missile, an IIR/TV-guided ground-attack version of the 140-170 km-range C-705 that was revealed at the 2012 Zhuhai airshow. A Pakistani source said up to four C-705KDs could be carried by the JF-17.

The second new weapon displayed with the JF-17 for the first time is the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) CM-102 anti-radiation missile. Revealed at the 2014 Zhuhai show, it has an advertised range of 100 km. A Pakistani source noted that other versions could have 50% to 70% further range.

Making its second international appearance was the CASIC CM-400AKG Mach-5 speed ground attack missile. A Pakistani official noted it did not have "passive" guidance, which might enable attacks against mobile targets such as ships, but has inertial navigational system/GPS guidance for attacking fixed targets.

Asked whether the CM-400AKG was in Pakistani service an official responded with a pointed "no comment".

Pakistan has produced 50 Block 1 versions of the JF-17 and has started production of 50 Block 2 versions. Officials said that discussions are underway with China for a Block 3 version that will include an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar that is being developed by the Nanjing Research of Electronic Technology (NRIST).

Pakistani officials noted it could be based on NRIST's AESA radar developed for the Chengdu J-10B fighter but would not confirm any relation between the two systems. The Block 3 JF-17 will also incorporate a helmet-mounted display and a possible internal infrared search and tracking (IRST) system.

以下是本人蹩脚的翻译:

巴黎航展2015:jf - 17战斗机与中国产中推涡扇发动机

       中国官员在巴黎航空展上表示jf - 17“雷电”正在进行新的自主引擎的飞行测试,也证实了jf - 17“雷电”飞机已实现了第一个国际销售,但是,他们没有透露客户是谁。
       中国航空的一位高级官员透露,成都飞机公司与巴基斯坦正在fc - 1枭龙/ jf - 17战斗机上联合试飞了一个新的中国产中推涡扇发动机。
       中航工业执行副主席 李玉海,在巴黎航展上对简氏说,一个新的中国产涡扇发动机一直在jf -17下测试,目前已完成“实验室测试”,而“正在进行飞行测试中”。他还说,新引擎推力将略大于8.7吨的jf - 17的当前推力--克里莫夫rd - 93涡扇发动机。
       6月15日中巴联合新闻发布会上,李玉海还说双座版jf -17已经在计划中了。
       巴基斯坦在巴黎消息来源证实,在jf - 17试飞中国产新涡扇的消息可能很快公开。有一个建议该引擎可以命名为“WS-17”,用于JF-17b,但官员没有提供该引擎任何进一步的性能指标。
       有一个用于fc - 1 / jf - 17的中国中推涡扇发动机长期计划的发动机,据称为WS-13,据报道其在2010年试飞。据说该发动机是在俄罗斯克里莫夫集团的帮助下和是基于rd - 33的涡扇发动机发展而来。
       虽然以前的报告提到WS-13发展困难,现在中国官员愿意公开谈论这个引擎表明更高层次对其前景的信心。
      在2008年珠海航展上,中国成都发动机研究所展示了推力9.5吨中推涡扇发动机模型。现在还不清楚是否是该发动机在jf - 17上测试飞行。
      尽管有新引擎测试的消息,巴基斯坦官员在巴黎表示,他们仍然满意克里莫夫rd - 93。2010年,中国获得了俄罗斯承诺满足潜在需求500 rd - 93引擎以支持jf - 17的计划。这个数字将支持巴基斯坦的要求至多275架jf - 17战机加上国际出口。
       巴基 斯坦官员报告也证实签订了第一个jf - 17出口合同。官方只是说合同已经在2015年上半年签署,但不会透露客户名称。
       巴基斯坦官员说他们正在认真的与包括阿根廷在内的11个国家洽谈jf - 17的出口合同。
       第一次出现在巴黎航展上,jf - 17也带来了两个可供选择的新武器。第一个是c - 705 kd的导弹,它是140 - 170公里射程的电视 /红外制导空对地版本的c - 705,在2012年珠海航展已经展示过。巴基斯坦的一个消息人士称jf - 17可以携带4 枚c - 705 kd。
      第二个新武器是中国航天科工集团公司(CASIC)cm - 102反辐射导弹。 在2014年珠海展示过,它有100公里的射程范围。巴基斯坦来源指出,其他的版本可能进一步提升50%到70%的射程范围。
      使其具有国际水准的是CASIC CM-400AKG 5马赫速度对面攻击导弹。巴基斯坦官员指出它可通过主动制导攻击移动目标,如战舰,也可利用惯性导航系统/ GPS制导攻击固定目标。
      当询问CM-400AKG 详情时,巴基斯坦服务官方回应指出“无可奉告”。
     巴基斯坦已经生产了50架Block1.0版本的jf - 17和已经开始生产另50架Block2.0的版本。官员表示,正与中国的谈判Block3.0版本,它将包括一个有源电子扫描阵列(AESA)雷达,是由南京电子技术研究所(NRIST)研制。
     巴基斯坦官员指出这可能是基于NRIST开发的成都j - 10 b战机 AESA雷达,但不愿证实任何两个系统之间的关系。jf - 17Block3.0版本还将包含一个头盔显示器和一个可能的内部红外搜索和跟踪(IRST)系统。
比8.7多的93稍大,应该是93的国产版本在试飞,9吨的
good. 走向完全自产
9吨级,不知道能不能有9吨半
推力9吨 推比呢
推力9吨 推比呢
推力9吨,参照rd93尺寸与重量,推比国标不到8
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好消息啊。
中航工业执行副主席 李玉海,在巴黎航展上对简氏说,一个新的中国产涡扇发动机一直在jf -17下测试,目前已完成“实验室测试”,而“正在进行飞行测试中”。他还说,新引擎推力将略大于8.7吨的jf - 17的当前推力--克里莫夫rd - 93涡扇发动机。
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应该还在某个多发机上测试吧,就想当年测试太行一样,不可能从实验室出来就装单发机了!!
任何一个进步都是好消息
ws13b吧?不是很久就有高滑的八股么?
不要再拉黑烟了。
废柴的李阳是指望不上的,大家看看也就罢了
中航工业执行副主席 李玉海,在巴黎航展上对简氏说,一个新的中国产涡扇发动机一直在jf -17下测试,目前已 ...
会不会是早測試了,
換ws13得重新試飞,
幸運的話,\r
兩样東西一同在几年后搞定。
中航工业执行副主席 李玉海,在巴黎航展上对简氏说,一个新的中国产涡扇发动机一直在jf -17下测试,目前已 ...
答对了。数字补丁。。。
neuhl 发表于 2015-6-18 01:15
推力9吨,参照rd93尺寸与重量,推比国标不到8
如果是这个数据,那么根本就不是什么所谓的先进中推,也就是个33的替代品,枭龙用没问题,骨头鹰要换发提高性能是没指望了
路过成都 发表于 2015-6-18 03:13
中航工业执行副主席 李玉海,在巴黎航展上对简氏说,一个新的中国产涡扇发动机一直在jf -17下测试,目前已 ...
现在TG有双中推的机嘛?
就一个问题,还冒黑烟不?
Kevin.Zheng25 发表于 2015-6-18 10:26
现在TG有双中推的机嘛?
可以在31001验证机上试
已经在小龙上试了几年,13已经基本成熟了
Kevin.Zheng25 发表于 2015-6-18 10:26
现在TG有双中推的机嘛?
鹘鹰是吃干饭的?
可以在31001验证机上试
已经在小龙上试了几年,13已经基本成熟了
我说鶻鹰会装新中推,您不是不信么
angadow 发表于 2015-6-18 10:57
我说鶻鹰会装新中推,您不是不信么
关键不是FC31装不装新中推,而是用户认不认,不过还是得说一声中国加油。
angadow 发表于 2015-6-18 10:57
我说鶻鹰会装新中推,您不是不信么
如果说新中推就是13那很多人会失望吧
即便9.5吨,也只是推比8一级,还是三代水平啊。。。


以前讨论过,还有人说外观WS13和RD93看不出来。。

以前讨论过,还有人说外观WS13和RD93看不出来。。
angadow 发表于 2015-6-18 10:57
我说鶻鹰会装新中推,您不是不信么
这新中推是多大推力?
O(∩_∩)O。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。  
如果说新中推就是13那很多人会失望吧
就土共这技术,你觉得怎样的才不失望?

CVN福特 发表于 2015-6-18 11:04
即便9.5吨,也只是推比8一级,还是三代水平啊。。。


东沟还是谁啊好像说过 以RD93规格改进10吨以上不难。毛子说给钱就能搞出了。现在毛子现在货架就有9800的。
CVN福特 发表于 2015-6-18 11:04
即便9.5吨,也只是推比8一级,还是三代水平啊。。。


东沟还是谁啊好像说过 以RD93规格改进10吨以上不难。毛子说给钱就能搞出了。现在毛子现在货架就有9800的。
文里稍大那个就是13吧
Kevin.Zheng25 发表于 2015-6-18 10:26
现在TG有双中推的机嘛?
FC31算不算?反正是上天了。
CVN福特 发表于 2015-6-18 11:04
即便9.5吨,也只是推比8一级,还是三代水平啊。。。
三代中推能有就不错了!
当初不是HKC们高呼9.5吨的13B中推定型了啊!!
Kevin.Zheng25 发表于 2015-6-18 10:26
现在TG有双中推的机嘛?
且不说骨鹰,大名鼎鼎的八爷居然都被你无视了!
pengdongqing 发表于 2015-6-18 11:03
如果说新中推就是13那很多人会失望吧
目前看来我也是被“新”字给蒙蔽了
pengdongqing 发表于 2015-6-18 11:03
如果说新中推就是13那很多人会失望吧
各方面条件得天独厚的美畜少说发展了150年,相比发展了30年将将有饭吃的土鳖,不过取得目前的成绩,许多人也应该对其感到失望才对吧?
175799040 发表于 2015-6-18 11:19
当初不是HKC们高呼9.5吨的13B中推定型了啊!!
他还说,新引擎推力将略大于8.7吨的jf - 17的当前推力--克里莫夫rd - 93涡扇发动机。——应该是9000
CVN福特 发表于 2015-6-18 11:04
即便9.5吨,也只是推比8一级,还是三代水平啊。。。
要是稳定可靠,寿命长,俺还是会点赞的。
嘎哦 发表于 2015-6-18 11:21
他还说,新引擎推力将略大于8.7吨的jf - 17的当前推力--克里莫夫rd - 93涡扇发动机。——应该是9000
等数据公开了,这个略大到底是多少不知道.
争取把小龙换了WS13,这样出口就不受限制了来自: iPhone客户端
即便9.5吨,也只是推比8一级,还是三代水平啊。。。
也许F414是你的目标,但路要一步步走,一步登天是不可能的。