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Pratt Unveils Sixth-Generation Fighter Engine, F135 Upgrade Options

http://aviationweek.com/defense/ ... 135-upgrade-options

09 Apr 2015

Pratt & Whitney has revealed details of a mid-to-long-term development road map designed to protect both its position as sole engine provider on the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) as well as its prospects for powering sixth-generation combat aircraft.

The ambitious plan builds on upgrades already under development for the F135 engine that powers the F-35, as well as a raft of advanced technologies currently being evaluated or studied for the next generation of adaptive, or variable-cycle engines. The strategic effort is also focused on sustaining Pratt as a major fighter-engine developer beyond the F135, the system development and demonstration (SDD) phase for which ends in 2016.

While Pratt makes it clear that there is currently no firm requirement for an upgraded F135, the company is working with the U.S. Navy on a fuel-burn improvement program for the engine, which combined with other turbine cooling technologies recently tested on the XTE68/LF1 demonstrator engine could be packaged as the first block of a two-step enhancement. “The Navy is working with us to develop technology for an engine test next year that would demonstrate a 5% fuel-burn reduction in the F-35,” says Pratt & Whitney’s Advanced Programs and Technology Director Jimmy Kenyon. This would be grouped potentially with blade-cooling technology demonstrated in late 2013 on XTE68/LF1, which Kenyon describes as “a fantastically successful test. It was the highest-ever turbine temperature in a production-based engine.”

The block one improvement will offer between a 7% and 10% improvement in thrust, as well as between 5% and 7% better mission fuel burn, and could be available around 2018. “So far, no one has decided they need the capability but we are making sure we are providing the options,” says Pratt & Whitney Military Engines President Bennett Croswell.

Although higher thrust and better fuel burn have obvious payload, range and mission advantages, Pratt expects the main benefit to come from trading the performance for lower operating temperatures and longer time on wing. “We are planning a life-extension for the F135, like we did on the [F100] -229 with an engine enhancement package where you had a 50% improvement in life. So we have set a goal to reduce sustainment costs for the F135 by a factor of 30%. A big piece of that will be increasing the life, which means reducing the number of depot overhauls you do over the life of the engine,” says Croswell. “The real focus for the Joint Program Office and Navy is on reducing life-cycle cost,” adds Kenyon.

For a longer-term block two upgrade path, Pratt is studying the possibility of configuring the F135 with elements of a technology suite in development for the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory’s (AFRL) Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP). Tipped for possible start-up funding later this year, AETP is primarily designed to prepare the ground for an adaptive, 45,000-lb.-thrust-class combat engine for sixth-generation fighter aircraft. However, the stated provisions for the program also make it a possible future reengining candidate for the F-35, the prospect of which is also driving advanced engine development work at General Electric.

Both Pratt and GE are currently engaged in AFRL’s Adaptive Engine Technology Development (AETD) program, a progenitor to AETP aimed at testing technology for a new generation of “three-stream” engines that can be reconfigured in flight. The adaptive concept is based on the principle of adding a third airflow stream outside of both the standard bypass duct and core. The extra airflow can be adapted to provide either additional mass flow for increased propulsive efficiency and lower fuel burn in higher bypass mode for cruise or, alternatively, for high-speed flight it can provide extra cooling capacity for the hot section of the engine, as well as for the fuel that provides a heat sink for aircraft systems.

AETD is set to end with demonstrations in 2016, by which time the follow-on program is scheduled to be underway. The four-year effort will mature adaptive engine technologies and reduce risk in readiness for a competitive engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) program. Pratt will conduct a preliminary design review of its AETD engine this month and has begun assembly of parts for a new high pressure-ratio core that will be tested in 2016. The manufacturer, which also has been rig-testing a three-stream adaptive fan, will attach the fan to an F135 for full engine tests at the company’s West Palm Beach, Florida, facility next year. The engine will also be fitted with a three-stream-compatible augmentor and exhaust system.

“We are looking at how we can take technology from that engine and use it within an F135-based architecture. We could potentially get a lot of that capability improvement for a lot less cost because we are already starting with a known engine and looking at an upgrade,” says Kenyon. “So we are working on different trades about how much the technology would bring in, how much that would cost and what kind of capability it would provide us as we go forward. The great thing about AETP is you are going to build and test and really wring out this technology, so by the time we get to the end of it that technology will be pretty mature.” As a result, Kenyon adds that “getting it into an F-35 would really not be as difficult or expensive as it would be to now take it forward to a brand-new engine.”Block two would therefore take elements of the advanced engine—in particular a new compressor and turbine— and feed it into the F135 for as much as a 15% thrust increase and a 20% reduction in fuel burn. “The compressor has more stages. It fits and is compatible with the current engine,” says Croswell, who adds the upgrade could be available in the 2022 timeframe if development of this, and the associated block one improvement, is approved soon. Although there is “still flow capacity in the inlet that we are not using,” Croswell acknowledges that the tightly packed F-35 fuselage does not allow for much leeway when it comes to providing space for a third stream. “Lockheed would like us not to tear up the airplane a lot, so I don’t know if we can integrate a third stream, but we will do those trades. We have defined what we could offer, and it is not part of the block upgrade plan as yet.”

Pratt is also working with the Navy on the Variable Cycle Advanced Technology (VCAT) program, which is designed to identify and mature adaptive-cycle turbine propulsion technology for future carrier-based tactical and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems. The VCAT program, which leverages the AFRL variable-cycle work, is a partnership effort between the Office of Naval Research and ONR and the Navy’s Energy Task Force, and is exploring additional unspecified methods of using the turbine stages to adapt the cycle. VCAT technology “is not part of the block two strategy right now, but it could be,” says Croswell.

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1.技术上block1升级可以在2018,5~7%增推和7~10%燃油效率

2.新技术的引入没有很困难和贵

3.顺利话2022可能可以有block2升级,增推15%和20%燃油效率

4.但空间限制可能不会有第三道流设计。麻烦点是可以升级有第三道流,但不在计画中







我去!没用ATED的三道流,只更换压缩机和涡扇,就達到增推、省油、延长发动机寿命,还降低维护费用

这可能嘛?



Pratt Unveils Sixth-Generation Fighter Engine, F135 Upgrade Options

http://aviationweek.com/defense/ ... 135-upgrade-options

09 Apr 2015

Pratt & Whitney has revealed details of a mid-to-long-term development road map designed to protect both its position as sole engine provider on the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) as well as its prospects for powering sixth-generation combat aircraft.

The ambitious plan builds on upgrades already under development for the F135 engine that powers the F-35, as well as a raft of advanced technologies currently being evaluated or studied for the next generation of adaptive, or variable-cycle engines. The strategic effort is also focused on sustaining Pratt as a major fighter-engine developer beyond the F135, the system development and demonstration (SDD) phase for which ends in 2016.

While Pratt makes it clear that there is currently no firm requirement for an upgraded F135, the company is working with the U.S. Navy on a fuel-burn improvement program for the engine, which combined with other turbine cooling technologies recently tested on the XTE68/LF1 demonstrator engine could be packaged as the first block of a two-step enhancement. “The Navy is working with us to develop technology for an engine test next year that would demonstrate a 5% fuel-burn reduction in the F-35,” says Pratt & Whitney’s Advanced Programs and Technology Director Jimmy Kenyon. This would be grouped potentially with blade-cooling technology demonstrated in late 2013 on XTE68/LF1, which Kenyon describes as “a fantastically successful test. It was the highest-ever turbine temperature in a production-based engine.”

The block one improvement will offer between a 7% and 10% improvement in thrust, as well as between 5% and 7% better mission fuel burn, and could be available around 2018. “So far, no one has decided they need the capability but we are making sure we are providing the options,” says Pratt & Whitney Military Engines President Bennett Croswell.

Although higher thrust and better fuel burn have obvious payload, range and mission advantages, Pratt expects the main benefit to come from trading the performance for lower operating temperatures and longer time on wing. “We are planning a life-extension for the F135, like we did on the [F100] -229 with an engine enhancement package where you had a 50% improvement in life. So we have set a goal to reduce sustainment costs for the F135 by a factor of 30%. A big piece of that will be increasing the life, which means reducing the number of depot overhauls you do over the life of the engine,” says Croswell. “The real focus for the Joint Program Office and Navy is on reducing life-cycle cost,” adds Kenyon.

For a longer-term block two upgrade path, Pratt is studying the possibility of configuring the F135 with elements of a technology suite in development for the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory’s (AFRL) Adaptive Engine Transition Program (AETP). Tipped for possible start-up funding later this year, AETP is primarily designed to prepare the ground for an adaptive, 45,000-lb.-thrust-class combat engine for sixth-generation fighter aircraft. However, the stated provisions for the program also make it a possible future reengining candidate for the F-35, the prospect of which is also driving advanced engine development work at General Electric.

Both Pratt and GE are currently engaged in AFRL’s Adaptive Engine Technology Development (AETD) program, a progenitor to AETP aimed at testing technology for a new generation of “three-stream” engines that can be reconfigured in flight. The adaptive concept is based on the principle of adding a third airflow stream outside of both the standard bypass duct and core. The extra airflow can be adapted to provide either additional mass flow for increased propulsive efficiency and lower fuel burn in higher bypass mode for cruise or, alternatively, for high-speed flight it can provide extra cooling capacity for the hot section of the engine, as well as for the fuel that provides a heat sink for aircraft systems.

AETD is set to end with demonstrations in 2016, by which time the follow-on program is scheduled to be underway. The four-year effort will mature adaptive engine technologies and reduce risk in readiness for a competitive engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) program. Pratt will conduct a preliminary design review of its AETD engine this month and has begun assembly of parts for a new high pressure-ratio core that will be tested in 2016. The manufacturer, which also has been rig-testing a three-stream adaptive fan, will attach the fan to an F135 for full engine tests at the company’s West Palm Beach, Florida, facility next year. The engine will also be fitted with a three-stream-compatible augmentor and exhaust system.

“We are looking at how we can take technology from that engine and use it within an F135-based architecture. We could potentially get a lot of that capability improvement for a lot less cost because we are already starting with a known engine and looking at an upgrade,” says Kenyon. “So we are working on different trades about how much the technology would bring in, how much that would cost and what kind of capability it would provide us as we go forward. The great thing about AETP is you are going to build and test and really wring out this technology, so by the time we get to the end of it that technology will be pretty mature.” As a result, Kenyon adds that “getting it into an F-35 would really not be as difficult or expensive as it would be to now take it forward to a brand-new engine.”Block two would therefore take elements of the advanced engine—in particular a new compressor and turbine— and feed it into the F135 for as much as a 15% thrust increase and a 20% reduction in fuel burn. “The compressor has more stages. It fits and is compatible with the current engine,” says Croswell, who adds the upgrade could be available in the 2022 timeframe if development of this, and the associated block one improvement, is approved soon. Although there is “still flow capacity in the inlet that we are not using,” Croswell acknowledges that the tightly packed F-35 fuselage does not allow for much leeway when it comes to providing space for a third stream. “Lockheed would like us not to tear up the airplane a lot, so I don’t know if we can integrate a third stream, but we will do those trades. We have defined what we could offer, and it is not part of the block upgrade plan as yet.”

Pratt is also working with the Navy on the Variable Cycle Advanced Technology (VCAT) program, which is designed to identify and mature adaptive-cycle turbine propulsion technology for future carrier-based tactical and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems. The VCAT program, which leverages the AFRL variable-cycle work, is a partnership effort between the Office of Naval Research and ONR and the Navy’s Energy Task Force, and is exploring additional unspecified methods of using the turbine stages to adapt the cycle. VCAT technology “is not part of the block two strategy right now, but it could be,” says Croswell.

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1.技术上block1升级可以在2018,5~7%增推和7~10%燃油效率

2.新技术的引入没有很困难和贵

3.顺利话2022可能可以有block2升级,增推15%和20%燃油效率

4.但空间限制可能不会有第三道流设计。麻烦点是可以升级有第三道流,但不在计画中







我去!没用ATED的三道流,只更换压缩机和涡扇,就達到增推、省油、延长发动机寿命,还降低维护费用

这可能嘛?

材料学一切皆有,美帝材料领域跑得太远了,反观我们连个自主航发公司都没独立...
美帝又牛逼了
材料学一切皆有,美帝材料领域跑得太远了,反观我们连个自主航发公司都没独立...
我们还在管理问题上徘徊
好吧,假如用了ATED技术那就算了,只換压缩机和涡扇就可达到这么牛逼指标?还是在不损及寿命情况下
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flymonkey 发表于 2015-4-17 20:38
感觉不可能。。。否则也太天顶星了

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对吧,是不是也有感觉普惠在吹牛?
USNI 发表于 2015-4-17 20:42
对吧,是不是也有感觉普惠在吹牛?
怀疑有水分正常,但是F-22各种逆天机动不能怀疑是幻觉吧...
国防部说骡马挖的坑我还没填完你又给我挖坑,学啥不好学吹水

淘宝开店卖女优 发表于 2015-4-17 21:15
国防部说骡马挖的坑我还没填完你又给我挖坑,学啥不好学吹水


本来就是计划之中的事,实际上算是原计划,按计划进行而已。。。增推不是最主要的目的,最主要的是更省油,增加航程,居然还能增推、延寿、降低维护费用,集各种矛盾要求于一体,大概也只有美帝想得出来,(当然了,我们也有张教授们敢想敢说。。。)发动机这一块,差距太巨大,不服不行啊。。。
淘宝开店卖女优 发表于 2015-4-17 21:15
国防部说骡马挖的坑我还没填完你又给我挖坑,学啥不好学吹水


本来就是计划之中的事,实际上算是原计划,按计划进行而已。。。增推不是最主要的目的,最主要的是更省油,增加航程,居然还能增推、延寿、降低维护费用,集各种矛盾要求于一体,大概也只有美帝想得出来,(当然了,我们也有张教授们敢想敢说。。。)发动机这一块,差距太巨大,不服不行啊。。。
我鳖加油。。。
问题是那个“新技术的引入没有很困难和贵”。当年骡马拍着胸脯保证F35量产之后会降价,会比F16还便宜
flymonkey 发表于 2015-4-17 20:38
感觉不可能。。。否则也太天顶星了

来自:关于超级大本营
地面测试F135 最大推力高达50000磅。
嘎哦 发表于 2015-4-17 21:34
地面测试F135 最大推力高达50000磅。
那不是常态好不,会减寿命的

这个是49500 lb且还增加寿命
那不是常态好不,会减寿命的

这个是49500 lb且还增加寿命
一般发动机后续持续改进的增推幅度都能达到百分之30左右,f135持续改下去,肥电b满油垂起迟早的事。
另外,原文49500的数据在哪里?可否截一段?
一台要抵两台F414了 燃油消耗还低不少。。。逆天啊。。。
        当年好像最开始时135就有一前景规划,说20年代初225-230千牛,中期20推比引进达到235-250千牛或更多吧,但最后未必能做,至于信不信是否吹牛就看各自理解了,这个无加力35可以1.3马赫以上了
快到23吨推力了,原本就19.5吨了,这下好 了,直接奔着23吨去了。
再改进到BL3,那不是奔着25吨去了?那F35B可以直接14吨实用空重加8吨油,4中2近,直接起飞
guoxing1987 发表于 2015-4-17 21:46
一般发动机后续持续改进的增推幅度都能达到百分之30左右,f135持续改下去,肥电b满油垂起迟早的事。
另 ...
Block two would therefore take elements of the advanced engine—in particular a new compressor and turbine— and feed it into the F135 for as much as a 15% thrust increase and a 20% reduction in fuel burn.


这是转别论坛的

大概是指43000 x 1.15
buyaoluanlai 发表于 2015-4-17 21:56
快到23吨推力了,原本就19.5吨了,这下好 了,直接奔着23吨去了。
再改进到BL3,那不是奔着25吨去了?那F3 ...
前提是普惠没吹水

而且哪来bl3
USNI 发表于 2015-4-17 21:59
前提是普惠没吹水

而且哪来bl3
万一呢?料敌从宽啊
Block two would therefore take elements of the advanced engine—in particular a new compressor and ...
43000是台架吧?目前装机f135的我记得没这么多。求解惑。
buyaoluanlai 发表于 2015-4-17 22:01
万一呢?料敌从宽啊
料敌从宽跟违反常识是两回事
guoxing1987 发表于 2015-4-17 22:03
43000是台架吧?目前装机f135的我记得没这么多。求解惑。
我不知道

这是PW自己官网图,thurst那写43000,我就只知道这样

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那个5万磅不是说短期的测试后检查没发现任何问题么……所以说,一切皆有可能。
qiaozx111 发表于 2015-4-17 22:12
那个5万磅不是说短期的测试后检查没发现任何问题么……所以说,一切皆有可能。
那会减寿吧

俄罗斯也有这种作法,只是会减寿,但短期还不是没事
哈哈,看看人家F135,中国还没有任何一台发动机有自己的专门网站的。
USNI 发表于 2015-4-17 20:42
对吧,是不是也有感觉普惠在吹牛?
吹牛倒不至于,就是太托大了,感觉是好了伤疤忘了痛,要是这么搞,我很看好再烧几架肥电。。。
嘎哦 发表于 2015-4-17 21:34
地面测试F135 最大推力高达50000磅。
CPU超频是要过热烧毁的。。。
停等民。。。
这也太疯狂了吧,19.5吨已经NB的不得了了
总觉得普惠又在放卫星。。。。
如果是真的,那确实逆天
涵道比上去的话就没意思了来自: iPhone客户端
F135定型相对还是早了点

先进发动机计划近几年刷的新成果都可以陆续移植过去
邦妮和克莱德 发表于 2015-4-17 19:57
材料学一切皆有,美帝材料领域跑得太远了,反观我们连个自主航发公司都没独立...
总有一天会赶超的
用奔四烧水 发表于 2015-4-17 19:57
美帝又牛逼了
是在召唤小安子,说你不用在自研发动机和战机了,用粑粑的就好了
USNI 发表于 2015-4-17 20:42
对吧,是不是也有感觉普惠在吹牛?
真希望奥黑能搞出这样的核心机,捆绑出售本子
0505030154 发表于 2015-4-17 21:26
我鳖加油。。。
这是要捆绑本子的节奏
裤衩biu的一下黄了