超级军网美国网友评论ISIS烧死约旦飞行员（转）
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kevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Isis will be eliminated only when the people in the region decide to eliminate them
只有那里的人想消灭ISIS，ISIS才会被消灭。
Bob Potter kevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Or when we do. We could do that, if we wanted to.
或者当我们去（消灭他们的）时候。如果我们想这么干，我们能做到。
Boblawblaw Bob Potter • an hour ago
By we you mean you and your neighbors sons and daughters correct?
靠我们？你的意思是靠你和你的邻居的儿子和女儿们，对吧？
Joe Gandalf Bob Potter • an hour ago
I would prefer to have my tax dollars spent on providing a decent level of health care to Americans rather than wasted on another useless war where we kill people with funny accents and, incidentally, inspire many more to take up arms against us. Have you learned nothing from Dubya's glorious experiment?
我宁可把我交的税花在提高美国人的医疗保险的水平上，也不愿意浪费在另一场无用的战争里。我们在那里操着很奇怪的口音杀人，顺便激起更多人拿起武器反对我们。你从Dubya（注：美国第43任总统）辉煌的经历中啥也没学到？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Are you volunteering to go "over there"?
你是自愿去“那儿”吧？
Bob Potter Frank Milhouse • 2 hours ago
No, I'm not. Are you tacitly approving of ISIL by your inaction?
不。你是在用你沉默的不作为赞同ISIL吗？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
If you knew what I did for a living, then you would know I am "involved" with actual action. And that is all I get to discuss about it.
如果你知道我为了活命曾做的事，你就该知道我是如何“牵涉”进实际行动中的。那就是我谈论这条新闻的资本。
J Cales Frank Milhouse • an hour ago
We know who you are, Airwolf.
我们知道你是谁，空狼。
Dave Cuthbert Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Sure we could just like we eliminated Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Oh wait, we haven't succeeded have we?
是滴，我们装作我们消灭了基地组织和塔利班。哦，稍等，我们成功了吗？
AustinWeirdo • 3 hours ago
"So it's in our interest to join the region and go get these guys."
-Sen. Lindsay
【共和党参议员的原句：为了捍卫我们的利益，我们要到那里去捉住那些家伙。】
Sure Senator. Grab a rifle, a shovel and a body bag and lead the charge.
是啊，参议员。抓一条来福枪，一把铲子和一条收尸袋，带头冲吧。
Ron Sinclair AustinWeirdo • 2 hours ago
Girly men do not lead the charge, they lead the call to charge.
娘娘腔的男人是不会打头阵的，他们号召大家冲。
Frank Milhouse Ron Sinclair • 2 hours ago
They also go right to the golf course after telling us what we should and might do.
他们也会在告诉我们该干什么之后直接前往高尔夫球场。
FireballRoberts • 2 hours ago
There's a real part of me that doesn't think our presence in this fight is going to be helpful. Will we kill a lot of people? Yes. Will that make peace? No. Will that continue to promote extremism on either side of the spectrum? Probably.
我真不认为我们参战会起作用。我们会杀很多人吗？是的。那样会带来和平吗？不。那会继续助长那一地区的极端主义吗？可能。
Joe Gandalf • 2 hours ago
Since ISIS is so involved in using social media to get their message across, it seems as though the Islamic opponents of ISIS (and crazy jihadism in general) should use the execution videos to ask prospective members if such atrocities are what they truly desire for other humans, including fellow Muslims. These campaigns should also point out the fact that ISIS was lying when they offered to release the already-murdered hostage in exchange for one of their own.
"Liars and murderers - do you really trust them to be on your side?"
It might help; certainly won't hurt.
鉴于Isis已经很善于使用社交媒体传播消息，ISIS（总的来说，还有疯狂的圣战分子）的伊斯兰对手们似乎应该使用处决视频去询问那些未来的成员，是否这种残暴是他们真想加诸于其他人类（包括穆斯林们）的。这些运动也指出一个事实，即ISIS在撒谎，因为他们实际上已经杀死了人质，却说要释放人质来交换他们自己的人质。
”骗子+谋杀者——你们真的相信他们和你们站在一起吗？“
这个可能有用；保证没有伤害。
ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
At least someone is getting outraged. Maybe Obama will eventually follow their lead.
至少有人已经愤怒了。可能奥巴马会最终追随他们的领导。
Gerta Lives ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
And what lead should he follow, exactly? Executing prisoners in retaliation? Or perhaps he should commit our military to another major operation that kills a few hundred of our enemies and creates thousands more in its wake?
确切说来他应该追随什么样的领导？在报复行动中处决囚犯？或者，也许他应该动用我们的军队去开始另一个行动，然后杀几百个我们的敌人，在他们清醒时又制造几千个（我们的敌人）？
Having served, I don't like the idea of throwing our own into the mix out of "rage" and with no clear objective. We could certainly rout ISIS if we cared to, but the end game would turn out worse and we know it. Or at least we should know it by now, with several lessons under our belt since the 60s. That includes a very recent example with a certain Islamic extremist group that we effectively neutralized, only to find ISIS flourishing in the vacuum.
服役之后，我不喜欢出于愤怒而毫无清楚的目标就把我们自己扔进混乱。如果我们想，我们确定能打垮ISIS，但是我们清楚游戏结束的时候会变得更糟。或者至少到目前为止我们应该知道这个了。自从60年代以来，在我们的区域我们没受几次教训？这包括最近一次我们已经有效消除的某一伊斯兰极端组织的例子，但这次消除的结果却造成ISIS在一个无人管的地方繁荣起来。
numbere ReasonOverEmotion • 3 hours ago
At least King Abdullah did not proceed to the golf course right away.
至少阿卜杜拉国王没有立刻前往高尔夫球场。
ReasonOverEmotion numbere • 3 hours ago
Bravo Jordan! Maybe our sniffling apologist President can learn something.
干得好约旦！也许我们抽抽搭搭道歉的总统能学点什么。
Dave Galino • 2 hours ago
The pilot's father got it right when ..."he urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world." " But I believe he didn't go far enough. If the Muslims don't fight and destroy ISIS, then the Muslims will be destroying the image themselves by allowing ISIS to portray Muslims in this way.
那位飞行员的父亲总算做对事了。他敦促穆斯林和ISIS打仗时说”他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们的宗教“”但是我相信他们不会走得太远。如果穆斯林们不去和ISIS战斗并摧毁他们，那么穆斯林就会被摧毁，因为他们允许ISIS这样塑造穆斯林们的形象。
译文来源:龙腾网 HTTP://WWW.LTAAA.COMkevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Isis will be eliminated only when the people in the region decide to eliminate them
只有那里的人想消灭ISIS，ISIS才会被消灭。
Bob Potter kevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Or when we do. We could do that, if we wanted to.
或者当我们去（消灭他们的）时候。如果我们想这么干，我们能做到。
Boblawblaw Bob Potter • an hour ago
By we you mean you and your neighbors sons and daughters correct?
靠我们？你的意思是靠你和你的邻居的儿子和女儿们，对吧？
Joe Gandalf Bob Potter • an hour ago
I would prefer to have my tax dollars spent on providing a decent level of health care to Americans rather than wasted on another useless war where we kill people with funny accents and, incidentally, inspire many more to take up arms against us. Have you learned nothing from Dubya's glorious experiment?
我宁可把我交的税花在提高美国人的医疗保险的水平上，也不愿意浪费在另一场无用的战争里。我们在那里操着很奇怪的口音杀人，顺便激起更多人拿起武器反对我们。你从Dubya（注：美国第43任总统）辉煌的经历中啥也没学到？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Are you volunteering to go "over there"?
你是自愿去“那儿”吧？
Bob Potter Frank Milhouse • 2 hours ago
No, I'm not. Are you tacitly approving of ISIL by your inaction?
不。你是在用你沉默的不作为赞同ISIL吗？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
If you knew what I did for a living, then you would know I am "involved" with actual action. And that is all I get to discuss about it.
如果你知道我为了活命曾做的事，你就该知道我是如何“牵涉”进实际行动中的。那就是我谈论这条新闻的资本。
J Cales Frank Milhouse • an hour ago
We know who you are, Airwolf.
我们知道你是谁，空狼。
Dave Cuthbert Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Sure we could just like we eliminated Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Oh wait, we haven't succeeded have we?
是滴，我们装作我们消灭了基地组织和塔利班。哦，稍等，我们成功了吗？
AustinWeirdo • 3 hours ago
"So it's in our interest to join the region and go get these guys."
-Sen. Lindsay
【共和党参议员的原句：为了捍卫我们的利益，我们要到那里去捉住那些家伙。】
Sure Senator. Grab a rifle, a shovel and a body bag and lead the charge.
是啊，参议员。抓一条来福枪，一把铲子和一条收尸袋，带头冲吧。
Ron Sinclair AustinWeirdo • 2 hours ago
Girly men do not lead the charge, they lead the call to charge.
娘娘腔的男人是不会打头阵的，他们号召大家冲。
Frank Milhouse Ron Sinclair • 2 hours ago
They also go right to the golf course after telling us what we should and might do.
他们也会在告诉我们该干什么之后直接前往高尔夫球场。
FireballRoberts • 2 hours ago
There's a real part of me that doesn't think our presence in this fight is going to be helpful. Will we kill a lot of people? Yes. Will that make peace? No. Will that continue to promote extremism on either side of the spectrum? Probably.
我真不认为我们参战会起作用。我们会杀很多人吗？是的。那样会带来和平吗？不。那会继续助长那一地区的极端主义吗？可能。
Joe Gandalf • 2 hours ago
Since ISIS is so involved in using social media to get their message across, it seems as though the Islamic opponents of ISIS (and crazy jihadism in general) should use the execution videos to ask prospective members if such atrocities are what they truly desire for other humans, including fellow Muslims. These campaigns should also point out the fact that ISIS was lying when they offered to release the already-murdered hostage in exchange for one of their own.
"Liars and murderers - do you really trust them to be on your side?"
It might help; certainly won't hurt.
鉴于Isis已经很善于使用社交媒体传播消息，ISIS（总的来说，还有疯狂的圣战分子）的伊斯兰对手们似乎应该使用处决视频去询问那些未来的成员，是否这种残暴是他们真想加诸于其他人类（包括穆斯林们）的。这些运动也指出一个事实，即ISIS在撒谎，因为他们实际上已经杀死了人质，却说要释放人质来交换他们自己的人质。
”骗子+谋杀者——你们真的相信他们和你们站在一起吗？“
这个可能有用；保证没有伤害。
ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
At least someone is getting outraged. Maybe Obama will eventually follow their lead.
至少有人已经愤怒了。可能奥巴马会最终追随他们的领导。
Gerta Lives ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
And what lead should he follow, exactly? Executing prisoners in retaliation? Or perhaps he should commit our military to another major operation that kills a few hundred of our enemies and creates thousands more in its wake?
确切说来他应该追随什么样的领导？在报复行动中处决囚犯？或者，也许他应该动用我们的军队去开始另一个行动，然后杀几百个我们的敌人，在他们清醒时又制造几千个（我们的敌人）？
Having served, I don't like the idea of throwing our own into the mix out of "rage" and with no clear objective. We could certainly rout ISIS if we cared to, but the end game would turn out worse and we know it. Or at least we should know it by now, with several lessons under our belt since the 60s. That includes a very recent example with a certain Islamic extremist group that we effectively neutralized, only to find ISIS flourishing in the vacuum.
服役之后，我不喜欢出于愤怒而毫无清楚的目标就把我们自己扔进混乱。如果我们想，我们确定能打垮ISIS，但是我们清楚游戏结束的时候会变得更糟。或者至少到目前为止我们应该知道这个了。自从60年代以来，在我们的区域我们没受几次教训？这包括最近一次我们已经有效消除的某一伊斯兰极端组织的例子，但这次消除的结果却造成ISIS在一个无人管的地方繁荣起来。
numbere ReasonOverEmotion • 3 hours ago
At least King Abdullah did not proceed to the golf course right away.
至少阿卜杜拉国王没有立刻前往高尔夫球场。
ReasonOverEmotion numbere • 3 hours ago
Bravo Jordan! Maybe our sniffling apologist President can learn something.
干得好约旦！也许我们抽抽搭搭道歉的总统能学点什么。
Dave Galino • 2 hours ago
The pilot's father got it right when ..."he urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world." " But I believe he didn't go far enough. If the Muslims don't fight and destroy ISIS, then the Muslims will be destroying the image themselves by allowing ISIS to portray Muslims in this way.
那位飞行员的父亲总算做对事了。他敦促穆斯林和ISIS打仗时说”他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们的宗教“”但是我相信他们不会走得太远。如果穆斯林们不去和ISIS战斗并摧毁他们，那么穆斯林就会被摧毁，因为他们允许ISIS这样塑造穆斯林们的形象。
译文来源:龙腾网 HTTP://WWW.LTAAA.COM
Isis will be eliminated only when the people in the region decide to eliminate them
只有那里的人想消灭ISIS，ISIS才会被消灭。
Bob Potter kevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Or when we do. We could do that, if we wanted to.
或者当我们去（消灭他们的）时候。如果我们想这么干，我们能做到。
Boblawblaw Bob Potter • an hour ago
By we you mean you and your neighbors sons and daughters correct?
靠我们？你的意思是靠你和你的邻居的儿子和女儿们，对吧？
Joe Gandalf Bob Potter • an hour ago
I would prefer to have my tax dollars spent on providing a decent level of health care to Americans rather than wasted on another useless war where we kill people with funny accents and, incidentally, inspire many more to take up arms against us. Have you learned nothing from Dubya's glorious experiment?
我宁可把我交的税花在提高美国人的医疗保险的水平上，也不愿意浪费在另一场无用的战争里。我们在那里操着很奇怪的口音杀人，顺便激起更多人拿起武器反对我们。你从Dubya（注：美国第43任总统）辉煌的经历中啥也没学到？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Are you volunteering to go "over there"?
你是自愿去“那儿”吧？
Bob Potter Frank Milhouse • 2 hours ago
No, I'm not. Are you tacitly approving of ISIL by your inaction?
不。你是在用你沉默的不作为赞同ISIL吗？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
If you knew what I did for a living, then you would know I am "involved" with actual action. And that is all I get to discuss about it.
如果你知道我为了活命曾做的事，你就该知道我是如何“牵涉”进实际行动中的。那就是我谈论这条新闻的资本。
J Cales Frank Milhouse • an hour ago
We know who you are, Airwolf.
我们知道你是谁，空狼。
Dave Cuthbert Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Sure we could just like we eliminated Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Oh wait, we haven't succeeded have we?
是滴，我们装作我们消灭了基地组织和塔利班。哦，稍等，我们成功了吗？
AustinWeirdo • 3 hours ago
"So it's in our interest to join the region and go get these guys."
-Sen. Lindsay
【共和党参议员的原句：为了捍卫我们的利益，我们要到那里去捉住那些家伙。】
Sure Senator. Grab a rifle, a shovel and a body bag and lead the charge.
是啊，参议员。抓一条来福枪，一把铲子和一条收尸袋，带头冲吧。
Ron Sinclair AustinWeirdo • 2 hours ago
Girly men do not lead the charge, they lead the call to charge.
娘娘腔的男人是不会打头阵的，他们号召大家冲。
Frank Milhouse Ron Sinclair • 2 hours ago
They also go right to the golf course after telling us what we should and might do.
他们也会在告诉我们该干什么之后直接前往高尔夫球场。
FireballRoberts • 2 hours ago
There's a real part of me that doesn't think our presence in this fight is going to be helpful. Will we kill a lot of people? Yes. Will that make peace? No. Will that continue to promote extremism on either side of the spectrum? Probably.
我真不认为我们参战会起作用。我们会杀很多人吗？是的。那样会带来和平吗？不。那会继续助长那一地区的极端主义吗？可能。
Joe Gandalf • 2 hours ago
Since ISIS is so involved in using social media to get their message across, it seems as though the Islamic opponents of ISIS (and crazy jihadism in general) should use the execution videos to ask prospective members if such atrocities are what they truly desire for other humans, including fellow Muslims. These campaigns should also point out the fact that ISIS was lying when they offered to release the already-murdered hostage in exchange for one of their own.
"Liars and murderers - do you really trust them to be on your side?"
It might help; certainly won't hurt.
鉴于Isis已经很善于使用社交媒体传播消息，ISIS（总的来说，还有疯狂的圣战分子）的伊斯兰对手们似乎应该使用处决视频去询问那些未来的成员，是否这种残暴是他们真想加诸于其他人类（包括穆斯林们）的。这些运动也指出一个事实，即ISIS在撒谎，因为他们实际上已经杀死了人质，却说要释放人质来交换他们自己的人质。
”骗子+谋杀者——你们真的相信他们和你们站在一起吗？“
这个可能有用；保证没有伤害。
ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
At least someone is getting outraged. Maybe Obama will eventually follow their lead.
至少有人已经愤怒了。可能奥巴马会最终追随他们的领导。
Gerta Lives ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
And what lead should he follow, exactly? Executing prisoners in retaliation? Or perhaps he should commit our military to another major operation that kills a few hundred of our enemies and creates thousands more in its wake?
确切说来他应该追随什么样的领导？在报复行动中处决囚犯？或者，也许他应该动用我们的军队去开始另一个行动，然后杀几百个我们的敌人，在他们清醒时又制造几千个（我们的敌人）？
Having served, I don't like the idea of throwing our own into the mix out of "rage" and with no clear objective. We could certainly rout ISIS if we cared to, but the end game would turn out worse and we know it. Or at least we should know it by now, with several lessons under our belt since the 60s. That includes a very recent example with a certain Islamic extremist group that we effectively neutralized, only to find ISIS flourishing in the vacuum.
服役之后，我不喜欢出于愤怒而毫无清楚的目标就把我们自己扔进混乱。如果我们想，我们确定能打垮ISIS，但是我们清楚游戏结束的时候会变得更糟。或者至少到目前为止我们应该知道这个了。自从60年代以来，在我们的区域我们没受几次教训？这包括最近一次我们已经有效消除的某一伊斯兰极端组织的例子，但这次消除的结果却造成ISIS在一个无人管的地方繁荣起来。
numbere ReasonOverEmotion • 3 hours ago
At least King Abdullah did not proceed to the golf course right away.
至少阿卜杜拉国王没有立刻前往高尔夫球场。
ReasonOverEmotion numbere • 3 hours ago
Bravo Jordan! Maybe our sniffling apologist President can learn something.
干得好约旦！也许我们抽抽搭搭道歉的总统能学点什么。
Dave Galino • 2 hours ago
The pilot's father got it right when ..."he urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world." " But I believe he didn't go far enough. If the Muslims don't fight and destroy ISIS, then the Muslims will be destroying the image themselves by allowing ISIS to portray Muslims in this way.
那位飞行员的父亲总算做对事了。他敦促穆斯林和ISIS打仗时说”他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们的宗教“”但是我相信他们不会走得太远。如果穆斯林们不去和ISIS战斗并摧毁他们，那么穆斯林就会被摧毁，因为他们允许ISIS这样塑造穆斯林们的形象。
译文来源:龙腾网 HTTP://WWW.LTAAA.COMkevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Isis will be eliminated only when the people in the region decide to eliminate them
只有那里的人想消灭ISIS，ISIS才会被消灭。
Bob Potter kevin trudell • 2 hours ago
Or when we do. We could do that, if we wanted to.
或者当我们去（消灭他们的）时候。如果我们想这么干，我们能做到。
Boblawblaw Bob Potter • an hour ago
By we you mean you and your neighbors sons and daughters correct?
靠我们？你的意思是靠你和你的邻居的儿子和女儿们，对吧？
Joe Gandalf Bob Potter • an hour ago
I would prefer to have my tax dollars spent on providing a decent level of health care to Americans rather than wasted on another useless war where we kill people with funny accents and, incidentally, inspire many more to take up arms against us. Have you learned nothing from Dubya's glorious experiment?
我宁可把我交的税花在提高美国人的医疗保险的水平上，也不愿意浪费在另一场无用的战争里。我们在那里操着很奇怪的口音杀人，顺便激起更多人拿起武器反对我们。你从Dubya（注：美国第43任总统）辉煌的经历中啥也没学到？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Are you volunteering to go "over there"?
你是自愿去“那儿”吧？
Bob Potter Frank Milhouse • 2 hours ago
No, I'm not. Are you tacitly approving of ISIL by your inaction?
不。你是在用你沉默的不作为赞同ISIL吗？
Frank Milhouse Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
If you knew what I did for a living, then you would know I am "involved" with actual action. And that is all I get to discuss about it.
如果你知道我为了活命曾做的事，你就该知道我是如何“牵涉”进实际行动中的。那就是我谈论这条新闻的资本。
J Cales Frank Milhouse • an hour ago
We know who you are, Airwolf.
我们知道你是谁，空狼。
Dave Cuthbert Bob Potter • 2 hours ago
Sure we could just like we eliminated Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Oh wait, we haven't succeeded have we?
是滴，我们装作我们消灭了基地组织和塔利班。哦，稍等，我们成功了吗？
AustinWeirdo • 3 hours ago
"So it's in our interest to join the region and go get these guys."
-Sen. Lindsay
【共和党参议员的原句：为了捍卫我们的利益，我们要到那里去捉住那些家伙。】
Sure Senator. Grab a rifle, a shovel and a body bag and lead the charge.
是啊，参议员。抓一条来福枪，一把铲子和一条收尸袋，带头冲吧。
Ron Sinclair AustinWeirdo • 2 hours ago
Girly men do not lead the charge, they lead the call to charge.
娘娘腔的男人是不会打头阵的，他们号召大家冲。
Frank Milhouse Ron Sinclair • 2 hours ago
They also go right to the golf course after telling us what we should and might do.
他们也会在告诉我们该干什么之后直接前往高尔夫球场。
FireballRoberts • 2 hours ago
There's a real part of me that doesn't think our presence in this fight is going to be helpful. Will we kill a lot of people? Yes. Will that make peace? No. Will that continue to promote extremism on either side of the spectrum? Probably.
我真不认为我们参战会起作用。我们会杀很多人吗？是的。那样会带来和平吗？不。那会继续助长那一地区的极端主义吗？可能。
Joe Gandalf • 2 hours ago
Since ISIS is so involved in using social media to get their message across, it seems as though the Islamic opponents of ISIS (and crazy jihadism in general) should use the execution videos to ask prospective members if such atrocities are what they truly desire for other humans, including fellow Muslims. These campaigns should also point out the fact that ISIS was lying when they offered to release the already-murdered hostage in exchange for one of their own.
"Liars and murderers - do you really trust them to be on your side?"
It might help; certainly won't hurt.
鉴于Isis已经很善于使用社交媒体传播消息，ISIS（总的来说，还有疯狂的圣战分子）的伊斯兰对手们似乎应该使用处决视频去询问那些未来的成员，是否这种残暴是他们真想加诸于其他人类（包括穆斯林们）的。这些运动也指出一个事实，即ISIS在撒谎，因为他们实际上已经杀死了人质，却说要释放人质来交换他们自己的人质。
”骗子+谋杀者——你们真的相信他们和你们站在一起吗？“
这个可能有用；保证没有伤害。
ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
At least someone is getting outraged. Maybe Obama will eventually follow their lead.
至少有人已经愤怒了。可能奥巴马会最终追随他们的领导。
Gerta Lives ReasonOverEmotion • 2 hours ago
And what lead should he follow, exactly? Executing prisoners in retaliation? Or perhaps he should commit our military to another major operation that kills a few hundred of our enemies and creates thousands more in its wake?
确切说来他应该追随什么样的领导？在报复行动中处决囚犯？或者，也许他应该动用我们的军队去开始另一个行动，然后杀几百个我们的敌人，在他们清醒时又制造几千个（我们的敌人）？
Having served, I don't like the idea of throwing our own into the mix out of "rage" and with no clear objective. We could certainly rout ISIS if we cared to, but the end game would turn out worse and we know it. Or at least we should know it by now, with several lessons under our belt since the 60s. That includes a very recent example with a certain Islamic extremist group that we effectively neutralized, only to find ISIS flourishing in the vacuum.
服役之后，我不喜欢出于愤怒而毫无清楚的目标就把我们自己扔进混乱。如果我们想，我们确定能打垮ISIS，但是我们清楚游戏结束的时候会变得更糟。或者至少到目前为止我们应该知道这个了。自从60年代以来，在我们的区域我们没受几次教训？这包括最近一次我们已经有效消除的某一伊斯兰极端组织的例子，但这次消除的结果却造成ISIS在一个无人管的地方繁荣起来。
numbere ReasonOverEmotion • 3 hours ago
At least King Abdullah did not proceed to the golf course right away.
至少阿卜杜拉国王没有立刻前往高尔夫球场。
ReasonOverEmotion numbere • 3 hours ago
Bravo Jordan! Maybe our sniffling apologist President can learn something.
干得好约旦！也许我们抽抽搭搭道歉的总统能学点什么。
Dave Galino • 2 hours ago
The pilot's father got it right when ..."he urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world." " But I believe he didn't go far enough. If the Muslims don't fight and destroy ISIS, then the Muslims will be destroying the image themselves by allowing ISIS to portray Muslims in this way.
那位飞行员的父亲总算做对事了。他敦促穆斯林和ISIS打仗时说”他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们的宗教“”但是我相信他们不会走得太远。如果穆斯林们不去和ISIS战斗并摧毁他们，那么穆斯林就会被摧毁，因为他们允许ISIS这样塑造穆斯林们的形象。
译文来源:龙腾网 HTTP://WWW.LTAAA.COM
Saif al-Kasaesbeh, father of Jordanian pilot Muath al-Kasaesbeh, sits with senior officers of Jordan's military at the headquarters of his family's clan in the city of Karak Wednesday. Kasaesbeh is calling for revenge against ISIS for killing his son.
Saif al-Kasaesbeh是约旦飞行员Muath al-Kasaesbeh的父亲，周三在位于Karak市的他的家族总部所在地，他和约旦军方高级将领坐在一起。Kasaesbeh号召为他被杀死的儿子向ISIS复仇。
Responding to a horrific video that shows one of its pilots being burned alive, Jordan has executed two jihadists, including a prisoner whose freedom had been sought by the self-declared Islamic State militant group. The father of Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh is calling for revenge.
约旦已经处死了两名伊斯兰教圣战士——其中一名囚徒正是自封的伊斯兰国军方要求释放的——这是对一个恐怖视频的回应。在该视频中，众多飞行员中的一个被生生烧死。
In Jordan, reactions to the pilot's killing have ranged from sorrow to anger. Today, the pilot's father said that ISIS must be eliminated.
约旦国内对该名飞行员的思维的反应从悲伤到愤怒都有。今天，该飞行员的父亲说必须消灭ISIS。译文来源:龙腾网 HTTP://WWW.LTAAA.COM
"The execution today is only a small part of our revenge," Saif al-Kasaesbeh said, according to NPR's Peter Kenyon. "My son's blood is worth more than [those two]." He added that the task is clear: "to destroy this terrorist group."
据来自 NPR的彼得·坎雍报道，Saif al-Kasaesbeh说：“今天的处决只是我们复仇的一小部分。我儿子的血远远比（那两个囚犯）高贵。”同时他还说任务很清楚：“消灭这个恐怖组织。”
He urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world."
他敦促穆斯林们向ISIS开战：“他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们宗教的图像。”
From Beirut, NPR's Alison Meuse reports:
NPR的阿里森·缪斯从贝鲁特报道：
"Muath al-Kaseasbeh's father says he feels great pain for the loss of his son. He calls on fellow Jordanians to be patient, but he also wants the perpetrators punished. The dawn executions of two convicted Al-Qaeda members are not enough, he says on TV network Al-Arabiya, adding 'I expect the government to seek revenge for the blood of Muath against this horrid organization, which is far from the spirit of Islam.
“Muath al-Kaseasbeh的父亲说他为失去儿子感到非常痛苦。他号召约旦人民要有耐心，但是他也要求惩罚行凶者。清晨处决的两名已定罪的基地组织成员还不够，他在Al-Arabiya电视台说：‘我希望政府为Muath流淌的血复仇，消灭这个恐怖的组织，它根本不是伊斯兰教的精神。
"When Muath was taken captive, his parents criticized Jordan's participation in the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS. The father told NPR that Jordan shouldn't be going on the offensive and attacking fellow Muslims. But his tone has changed in the wake of the grisly video which purports to shows his son being burned to death. Now he says the coalition must eradicate ISIS."
“当Muath被抓的时候，他的父母批评约旦参与美国领导的反ISIS的空袭。这位父亲告诉NPR，约旦不应该这样冒犯和攻击穆斯林。但是在被那令人毛骨悚然的视频惊醒之后，他的语气改变了，因为那个视频就是要显示他的儿子是如何被烧死的。现在他说联合政府必须根绝ISIS。”
The brutal killing of al-Kaseasbeh shocked people in Jordan and elsewhere, as it followed a prolonged negotiation for his release in a prisoner exchange that also involved a Japanese journalist who was being held hostage.
对al-Kaseasbeh的残酷杀戮震惊了约旦及其他地方的人民。而在此之前，为了他和另外一名被抓为人质的日本记者的释放，交换囚犯的谈判持续了很久。
Adding more uncertainty to the picture, Jordanian state TV reported Tuesday that the pilot had been killed on Jan. 3, a month before the graphic video was released.
Jordan executed the prisoners early Wednesday.
虽然画面有些不确定性，但是约旦国家电视台还是在周二报道该飞行员已在1月3日被处死，那是这个视频流传出来之前的一个月。
NPR's Alice Fordham reports:
NPR的爱丽丝·福德汉姆报道：
"The news of the two executions was announced on Jordan's state television, which at all times has a picture of Kasesbeh in the corner of the screen.
“两名处决犯的新闻在约旦国家电视台播出，而Kasesbeh一直在画面一角。
"One of those executed was Sajida al-Rishawi — a woman connected with a hotel bombing 10 years ago, whom the extremists had demanded as part of a putative prisoner swap, also involving Japanese hostage Kenji Goto, who was beheaded last week. The other executed militant was Ziyad Karboli, identified on TV as an al Qaeda operative convicted of killing a Jordanian citizen.
被处决的囚犯之一是一名叫做al-Rishawi的妇女，她于十年前一起饭店爆炸案有关，也被假定是极端分子要求的交换日本人质后藤建二的囚犯之一。这名日本人质已于上周被砍头。另一个被处决的激进分子是 Ziyad Karboli，该电视台说他是基地组织的一员，杀害过一名约旦公民。
"In a televised address, Jordan's King Abdullah talked about the nation's grief, despair and anger at the death of a hero, and called on the country to stand together in the face of the threat. Other Jordanian officials have promised revenge."
“在一个电视讲话中，约旦国王阿卜杜拉谈到这位英雄之死让举国悲伤、绝望和愤怒。他号召全国人民团结一致，面对威胁。其他约旦官员也承诺复仇。”
The video of al-Kaseasbeh's death was released as King Abdullah was in Washington to meet with President Obama. He cut his visit to the U.S. short, but not before meeting with Obama and other American leaders.
al-Kaseasbeh之死的视频是在阿普杜拉国王于华盛顿回见奥巴马总统时流传出来的。他缩短访美行程，但还是回见了奥巴马和其他美国领导人。
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who was among those who met with Abdullah, said Jordan will not be withdrawing from the fight against ISIS. Here's what Graham said:
"All I can say is that the king feels like the gloves are off and that it is now time... you can't negotiate with these people, you are going to have to take it to them and I think it's going to be more than Jordan. I mean we're threatened by ISIL, that's what I'm trying to get members of Congress to realize. This is not a regional problem, this is not a Middle Eastern problem. They have a desire to attack our homeland. They eventually will if they continue to have a safe haven to recruit foreign fighters. So it's in our interest to join the region and go get these guys."
共和党人兼高级律师参议员林赛·格雷汉姆是参与回见阿卜杜拉的随行人员，她说约旦不会从与ISIS的战斗中撤出。下面是格雷汉姆的原话：
“所有我能说的是国王已下定决心，就是现在……你无法和那些人谈判，你必须把他们要的给他们，我认为他们要的已经远远不止约旦。我的意思是我们被ISIL威胁了，那就是我试图让国会议员们意识到的。这不是宗教问题，这不是中东问题。他们要摧毁我们的家园。如果他们一直都有一个招募外国士兵安全避风港，他们最终将会（摧毁我们的家园）。所以，为了我们自己的利益，我们要加入该地区，抓住那些家伙。”
这是新闻部分
Saif al-Kasaesbeh是约旦飞行员Muath al-Kasaesbeh的父亲，周三在位于Karak市的他的家族总部所在地，他和约旦军方高级将领坐在一起。Kasaesbeh号召为他被杀死的儿子向ISIS复仇。
Responding to a horrific video that shows one of its pilots being burned alive, Jordan has executed two jihadists, including a prisoner whose freedom had been sought by the self-declared Islamic State militant group. The father of Lt. Muath al-Kaseasbeh is calling for revenge.
约旦已经处死了两名伊斯兰教圣战士——其中一名囚徒正是自封的伊斯兰国军方要求释放的——这是对一个恐怖视频的回应。在该视频中，众多飞行员中的一个被生生烧死。
In Jordan, reactions to the pilot's killing have ranged from sorrow to anger. Today, the pilot's father said that ISIS must be eliminated.
约旦国内对该名飞行员的思维的反应从悲伤到愤怒都有。今天，该飞行员的父亲说必须消灭ISIS。译文来源:龙腾网 HTTP://WWW.LTAAA.COM
"The execution today is only a small part of our revenge," Saif al-Kasaesbeh said, according to NPR's Peter Kenyon. "My son's blood is worth more than [those two]." He added that the task is clear: "to destroy this terrorist group."
据来自 NPR的彼得·坎雍报道，Saif al-Kasaesbeh说：“今天的处决只是我们复仇的一小部分。我儿子的血远远比（那两个囚犯）高贵。”同时他还说任务很清楚：“消灭这个恐怖组织。”
He urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world."
他敦促穆斯林们向ISIS开战：“他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们宗教的图像。”
From Beirut, NPR's Alison Meuse reports:
NPR的阿里森·缪斯从贝鲁特报道：
"Muath al-Kaseasbeh's father says he feels great pain for the loss of his son. He calls on fellow Jordanians to be patient, but he also wants the perpetrators punished. The dawn executions of two convicted Al-Qaeda members are not enough, he says on TV network Al-Arabiya, adding 'I expect the government to seek revenge for the blood of Muath against this horrid organization, which is far from the spirit of Islam.
“Muath al-Kaseasbeh的父亲说他为失去儿子感到非常痛苦。他号召约旦人民要有耐心，但是他也要求惩罚行凶者。清晨处决的两名已定罪的基地组织成员还不够，他在Al-Arabiya电视台说：‘我希望政府为Muath流淌的血复仇，消灭这个恐怖的组织，它根本不是伊斯兰教的精神。
"When Muath was taken captive, his parents criticized Jordan's participation in the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS. The father told NPR that Jordan shouldn't be going on the offensive and attacking fellow Muslims. But his tone has changed in the wake of the grisly video which purports to shows his son being burned to death. Now he says the coalition must eradicate ISIS."
“当Muath被抓的时候，他的父母批评约旦参与美国领导的反ISIS的空袭。这位父亲告诉NPR，约旦不应该这样冒犯和攻击穆斯林。但是在被那令人毛骨悚然的视频惊醒之后，他的语气改变了，因为那个视频就是要显示他的儿子是如何被烧死的。现在他说联合政府必须根绝ISIS。”
The brutal killing of al-Kaseasbeh shocked people in Jordan and elsewhere, as it followed a prolonged negotiation for his release in a prisoner exchange that also involved a Japanese journalist who was being held hostage.
对al-Kaseasbeh的残酷杀戮震惊了约旦及其他地方的人民。而在此之前，为了他和另外一名被抓为人质的日本记者的释放，交换囚犯的谈判持续了很久。
Adding more uncertainty to the picture, Jordanian state TV reported Tuesday that the pilot had been killed on Jan. 3, a month before the graphic video was released.
Jordan executed the prisoners early Wednesday.
虽然画面有些不确定性，但是约旦国家电视台还是在周二报道该飞行员已在1月3日被处死，那是这个视频流传出来之前的一个月。
NPR's Alice Fordham reports:
NPR的爱丽丝·福德汉姆报道：
"The news of the two executions was announced on Jordan's state television, which at all times has a picture of Kasesbeh in the corner of the screen.
“两名处决犯的新闻在约旦国家电视台播出，而Kasesbeh一直在画面一角。
"One of those executed was Sajida al-Rishawi — a woman connected with a hotel bombing 10 years ago, whom the extremists had demanded as part of a putative prisoner swap, also involving Japanese hostage Kenji Goto, who was beheaded last week. The other executed militant was Ziyad Karboli, identified on TV as an al Qaeda operative convicted of killing a Jordanian citizen.
被处决的囚犯之一是一名叫做al-Rishawi的妇女，她于十年前一起饭店爆炸案有关，也被假定是极端分子要求的交换日本人质后藤建二的囚犯之一。这名日本人质已于上周被砍头。另一个被处决的激进分子是 Ziyad Karboli，该电视台说他是基地组织的一员，杀害过一名约旦公民。
"In a televised address, Jordan's King Abdullah talked about the nation's grief, despair and anger at the death of a hero, and called on the country to stand together in the face of the threat. Other Jordanian officials have promised revenge."
“在一个电视讲话中，约旦国王阿卜杜拉谈到这位英雄之死让举国悲伤、绝望和愤怒。他号召全国人民团结一致，面对威胁。其他约旦官员也承诺复仇。”
The video of al-Kaseasbeh's death was released as King Abdullah was in Washington to meet with President Obama. He cut his visit to the U.S. short, but not before meeting with Obama and other American leaders.
al-Kaseasbeh之死的视频是在阿普杜拉国王于华盛顿回见奥巴马总统时流传出来的。他缩短访美行程，但还是回见了奥巴马和其他美国领导人。
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who was among those who met with Abdullah, said Jordan will not be withdrawing from the fight against ISIS. Here's what Graham said:
"All I can say is that the king feels like the gloves are off and that it is now time... you can't negotiate with these people, you are going to have to take it to them and I think it's going to be more than Jordan. I mean we're threatened by ISIL, that's what I'm trying to get members of Congress to realize. This is not a regional problem, this is not a Middle Eastern problem. They have a desire to attack our homeland. They eventually will if they continue to have a safe haven to recruit foreign fighters. So it's in our interest to join the region and go get these guys."
共和党人兼高级律师参议员林赛·格雷汉姆是参与回见阿卜杜拉的随行人员，她说约旦不会从与ISIS的战斗中撤出。下面是格雷汉姆的原话：
“所有我能说的是国王已下定决心，就是现在……你无法和那些人谈判，你必须把他们要的给他们，我认为他们要的已经远远不止约旦。我的意思是我们被ISIL威胁了，那就是我试图让国会议员们意识到的。这不是宗教问题，这不是中东问题。他们要摧毁我们的家园。如果他们一直都有一个招募外国士兵安全避风港，他们最终将会（摧毁我们的家园）。所以，为了我们自己的利益，我们要加入该地区，抓住那些家伙。”
这是新闻部分
评论看得我蛮好笑～～到底去不去干涉呢，真是个难题呀～～
呃。。。这是要逼传说中大部分"温和的MSL"站队么。。。
The pilot's father got it right when ..."he urged Muslims to fight ISIS, saying, "they will destroy the image of our religion around the world." " But I believe he didn't go far enough. If the Muslims don't fight and destroy ISIS, then the Muslims will be destroying the image themselves by allowing ISIS to portray Muslims in this way.
那位飞行员的父亲总算做对事了。他敦促穆斯林和ISIS打仗时说”他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们的宗教“”但是我相信他们不会走得太远。如果穆斯林们不去和ISIS战斗并摧毁他们，那么穆斯林就会被摧毁，因为他们允许ISIS这样塑造穆斯林们的形象。
我很赞同
那位飞行员的父亲总算做对事了。他敦促穆斯林和ISIS打仗时说”他们会在世界范围内摧毁我们的宗教“”但是我相信他们不会走得太远。如果穆斯林们不去和ISIS战斗并摧毁他们，那么穆斯林就会被摧毁，因为他们允许ISIS这样塑造穆斯林们的形象。
我很赞同
厌战情绪很浓，估计那位父亲有了汉贼不两立的认识
呃。。。这是要逼传说中大部分"温和的MSL"站队么。。。
是啊 所以我怀疑这次处死人治美帝应该有所参与
是啊 所以我怀疑这次处死人治美帝应该有所参与
还是我大汉字的文化博大精深
474995125 发表于 2015-2-5 14:02
是啊 所以我怀疑这次处死人治美帝应该有所参与
ISIS也处决了三个东突，你有怀疑华帝有所参与吗
是啊 所以我怀疑这次处死人治美帝应该有所参与
ISIS也处决了三个东突，你有怀疑华帝有所参与吗
希望中东的那些王爷们能清醒过来，如果它们继续支持ISIS，它们最终也会被ISIS烧死····
贼喊捉贼 发表于 2015-2-5 16:13
ISIS也处决了三个东突，你有怀疑华帝有所参与吗
3个东突想临阵脱逃，这个不一样的吧。
ISIS也处决了三个东突，你有怀疑华帝有所参与吗
3个东突想临阵脱逃，这个不一样的吧。
“娘娘腔的男人是不会打头阵的，他们号召大家冲。”真相了。。。美利坚善良的人啊，请相信中国人民的智慧，把麦凯恩空投到isis里去吧，他一定会让恐怖分子内讧而亡的。他已经好几次证明了这一点，美国大饼的血不能白流。