原来美帝也想过搞基洛夫那样的巡洋舰啊

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老美叫强袭巡洋舰{:soso_e120:}

17000吨
宙斯盾
128枚标2
8枚战斧
标准2
16枚鱼叉
MK71舰炮
2架海妖直升机


以下内容来自维基:


Strike cruiser

A strike cruiser (proposed hull designator: CSGN) was a proposal from DARPA for a class of cruisers in the late 1970s. The proposal was for the Strike Cruiser to be a guided missile attack cruiser with a displacement of around 17,200 long tons (17,500 t), armed and equipped with the Aegis combat system, the Standard missile two, Harpoon anti-ship missile, the Tomahawk missile, and the Mk71 8-inch gun.

A prototype strike cruiser was to be the refurbished USS Long Beach (CGN-9); at a cost of roughly $800 million, however this never came to pass.

Originally, eight to a twelve strike cruisers were projected. The class would have been complemented by the Aegis-equipped fleet defense (DDG-47) version of the Spruance class destroyers. Plagued with design difficulties and escalating cost the project was canceled in the closing days of the Ford administration.[1] After the cancellation of the class, the Aegis destroyers were expanded into the Ticonderoga-class (CG-47) Aegis cruiser program.

Type:         Guided missile cruiser
Displacement:         16,035 tons (light)
17,284 tons (full load)
Length:         709 feet 7 inches (216.3 m)
Beam:         76 feet 5 inches (23.3 m)
Draft:         22 feet 4 inches (6.8 m)
Propulsion:         2 pressurized water D2G General Electric nuclear reactors, two shafts, 60,000 shp (150 Mw)
2 x 2000 Kw diesel generators
6 x ship service turbo generators
Speed:         30+ knots (55+ km/h)
Range:         unlimited
Complement:         454 (total)
Sensors and
processing systems:         AN/SPY-1A multi-function radar
AN/SPS-49 air search radar
AN/SPS-10F surface search radar
AN/SPS-64 navigation radar
AN/SPG-62 (x4) fire control radar
AN/SQS-53 bow-mounted sonar
AN/SLQ-32 ECM suite
AN/UYK-7 computer processing
Armament:         2 x Mk-26 missile launchers
RIM-66 Standard and ASROC
• 64 missiles forward
• 64 missiles aft
2 x quad Mk-143 ABL launchers
• BGM-109 Tomahawk (8)
4 x quad Mk-141 tube launchers
• RGM-84 Harpoon (16)
1 x 8"/55 cal MCLWG (forward)
2 x Mk-15 Phalanx CIWS (amidships)
2 x triple Mark 32 SVTT
• Mark 46 torpedo
Aircraft carried:         2 x SH-2F LAMPS I helicopters老美叫强袭巡洋舰{:soso_e120:}

17000吨
宙斯盾
128枚标2
8枚战斧
标准2
16枚鱼叉
MK71舰炮
2架海妖直升机


以下内容来自维基:


Strike cruiser

A strike cruiser (proposed hull designator: CSGN) was a proposal from DARPA for a class of cruisers in the late 1970s. The proposal was for the Strike Cruiser to be a guided missile attack cruiser with a displacement of around 17,200 long tons (17,500 t), armed and equipped with the Aegis combat system, the Standard missile two, Harpoon anti-ship missile, the Tomahawk missile, and the Mk71 8-inch gun.

A prototype strike cruiser was to be the refurbished USS Long Beach (CGN-9); at a cost of roughly $800 million, however this never came to pass.

Originally, eight to a twelve strike cruisers were projected. The class would have been complemented by the Aegis-equipped fleet defense (DDG-47) version of the Spruance class destroyers. Plagued with design difficulties and escalating cost the project was canceled in the closing days of the Ford administration.[1] After the cancellation of the class, the Aegis destroyers were expanded into the Ticonderoga-class (CG-47) Aegis cruiser program.

Type:         Guided missile cruiser
Displacement:         16,035 tons (light)
17,284 tons (full load)
Length:         709 feet 7 inches (216.3 m)
Beam:         76 feet 5 inches (23.3 m)
Draft:         22 feet 4 inches (6.8 m)
Propulsion:         2 pressurized water D2G General Electric nuclear reactors, two shafts, 60,000 shp (150 Mw)
2 x 2000 Kw diesel generators
6 x ship service turbo generators
Speed:         30+ knots (55+ km/h)
Range:         unlimited
Complement:         454 (total)
Sensors and
processing systems:         AN/SPY-1A multi-function radar
AN/SPS-49 air search radar
AN/SPS-10F surface search radar
AN/SPS-64 navigation radar
AN/SPG-62 (x4) fire control radar
AN/SQS-53 bow-mounted sonar
AN/SLQ-32 ECM suite
AN/UYK-7 computer processing
Armament:         2 x Mk-26 missile launchers
RIM-66 Standard and ASROC
• 64 missiles forward
• 64 missiles aft
2 x quad Mk-143 ABL launchers
• BGM-109 Tomahawk (8)
4 x quad Mk-141 tube launchers
• RGM-84 Harpoon (16)
1 x 8"/55 cal MCLWG (forward)
2 x Mk-15 Phalanx CIWS (amidships)
2 x triple Mark 32 SVTT
• Mark 46 torpedo
Aircraft carried:         2 x SH-2F LAMPS I helicopters
冷战时期不是有武库舰么,几百个单元垂发
不只是基洛夫,还有类似基辅级的,好像有模型。
才装8枚战斧?
美帝不是有过长滩吗?那个不错,也是核动力的
鱼叉也不少。
两艘就能灭中国,好厉害!
一朵奇葩 发表于 2015-1-15 11:15
才装8枚战斧?
那个时代的战斧不能垂发,用的是4联的发射箱,看一下改装过的衣阿华就知道了······
yudeshen 发表于 2015-1-15 12:38
那个时代的战斧不能垂发,用的是4联的发射箱,看一下改装过的衣阿华就知道了······
受教      
美帝有航母,搞这没必要必要
当时准备做核动力的宙斯盾巡洋舰,后来发现本太高了,就没办法,把斯普鲁恩斯拉出来,改了改,成了提康德罗加
CGN42的怨念。MD类似的还多了,比如21世纪初末的水面舰艇规划中有2万多吨,256个VLS的巡洋舰计划。
牛人江江 发表于 2015-1-15 11:09
冷战时期不是有武库舰么,几百个单元垂发
现在不是没了???


MD是穷人,也就画图YY下,当初连反舰导弹都不想要,扔铁炸弹最实在了,至今也是重点训练科目;即便老美现在装备的反舰导弹和其他国家比也绝对的矮挫穷

苏联是富人,阅兵方队后面两个穿西服夹黑皮包的从来不差钱,装备钛金级才显得高大上对得上帝国的荣光

MD是穷人,也就画图YY下,当初连反舰导弹都不想要,扔铁炸弹最实在了,至今也是重点训练科目;即便老美现在装备的反舰导弹和其他国家比也绝对的矮挫穷

苏联是富人,阅兵方队后面两个穿西服夹黑皮包的从来不差钱,装备钛金级才显得高大上对得上帝国的荣光
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大国之间一出现对垒,就容易出现同一类武器的数据越来越延伸的现象。大、多、长、后、重、精、高、深、快。。。。。。。。
8英寸主炮无用武之地啊  
minimi001 发表于 2015-1-15 13:48
现在不是没了???
。。我又没说现在还有,楼主本来说的就是“想过”。
牛人江江 发表于 2015-1-15 15:03
。。我又没说现在还有,楼主本来说的就是“想过”。
DDG-1000   不解释!
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牛人江江 发表于 2015-1-15 11:09
冷战时期不是有武库舰么,几百个单元垂发
武库舰本身就是美国忽悠苏联傻子的  就像航母无用论一样  
雕弓射东阳 发表于 2015-1-15 15:06
DDG-1000   不解释!
那时候武库舰可是有超过500个单元的垂发,看着就像苍蝇拍一样,朱母空有那排水量,垂发比伯克还少
苏联不那么快解体,天知道毛毛熊和美国会设计什么出来
美国海军最大的对手是美国国会
脸神果然什么图都有。
冷战时期不是有武库舰么,几百个单元垂发
武库舰是1993年提出的,冷战早结束了
yudeshen 发表于 2015-1-15 12:38
那个时代的战斧不能垂发,用的是4联的发射箱,看一下改装过的衣阿华就知道了······
还一直纳闷衣阿华甲板上那几个大箱子是啥东西呢!
求得与你相守 发表于 2015-1-15 15:13
武库舰本身就是美国忽悠苏联傻子的  就像航母无用论一样
不完全是吧,当时是有立项的好像,当然本身美军内部就有争议。
不應該叫強襲吧, 太過日本味及gundam seed味了(強襲轉引自日本漢字)

CSGN可還有更瘋的設計.

牛人江江 发表于 2015-1-15 17:12
不完全是吧,当时是有立项的好像,当然本身美军内部就有争议。
装的不像怎么可能骗得了人  美国人厉害就厉害在这 除了实施者  没人知道怎么回事
武库舰才是真有基洛夫味道
这舰唯一的亮点是MK71是世界上最后一款实际测试的8英寸舰炮
现在不是没了???
武库舰一直都没有造出来过啊,那东西太死板了。
希望拿052B的舰体,装两门八英寸舰炮,就是一型六千吨级的火力支援舰。
这个跟武库舰比实在是弱爆了~
武库舰才是我等90年代初军迷心中永远的神
8枚战斧,这个够叼
牛人江江 发表于 2015-1-15 15:15
那时候武库舰可是有超过500个单元的垂发,看着就像苍蝇拍一样,朱母空有那排水量,垂发比伯克还少
武库舰没有独立的战场感知能力,就是个发射平台,这和现有舰船的理念是完全不一样的。
武库舰本身就是美国忽悠苏联傻子的  就像航母无用论一样
基洛夫的设计比武库舰概念早
CGN美国搞过不少吧,比如长滩。不过那个造型……等一下我先去吐一会儿
晓蝉声 发表于 2015-1-16 06:31
武库舰一直都没有造出来过啊,那东西太死板了。
其实也就是W吨驱的扩展版