超级军网印度防卫网：中国第三代战机在等待获批出口
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The J-10, China's domestically made third-generation jet fighter, has not been exported due to the lack of license issued by Chinese authorities, Ma Zhiping, vice president of the State-owned China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation, said Wednesday.
In a response to overseas media reports and public speculation that the J-10 has been exported to Pakistan, Ma was quoted by the news portal huanqiu.com as saying that he can state that not a single J-10 has been shipped to Pakistan.
"Obtaining a national permit in advance of exporting it is top priority," Ma said on the sidelines of the ongoing 15th Aviation Expo/China 2013 in Beijing.
国有中国国家航空技术进出口总公司副总裁马治平在周三声称：中制第三代喷气战斗机J-10，由于缺乏中国当局颁发的许可证，目前尚不允许出口。
为了回应海外媒体的报道和公众的猜测说J-10已出口到巴基斯坦，新闻门户网站环球网引述他的话说：可以说没有一架J-10运抵过巴基斯坦。（译者：注意这里用的是“shipped”即“船运抵”，不代表没有直接“飞抵”哦）
“获得国家出口许可证才是重中之重，”马治平在正举办的第15届2013年中国北京航空博览会间歇上说。
The country, which launched a research program for a new generation jet fighter in 1984, saw the aircraft's first trial 14 years later. The jet officially came into service in 2006.
"We can anticipate good export prospects, as many potential customers have shown great interest in it and have made enquiries on the price. Many Asian, African and Latin American countries, which include users of Chinese, ex-Soviet and French fighters, form a huge clientele," said Ma.
The chances are that the export will be permitted and it will surely be meaningful in opening a new chapter of exporting China's military equipment, Xu Zelong, a deputy director of the newspaper China Aviation News, told the Global Times.
中国于1984年推出了新一代喷气式战斗机的研究计划，14年之后这款飞机实现首次试飞，并于2006年正式投入现役。
“我们可以预见良好的出口前景，许多潜在客户已经表现出极大的兴趣，并曾询问过价格，这些国家（涵盖了）亚洲，非洲和拉美，其中包括中国，前苏联和法国战机的用户，形成了一个庞大的客户群。”马说。
“有机会获批允许出口的话，对中国军事装备出口来说是打开了新的篇章，是极具意义的。”《中国民航报》副主任许则笼告诉《环球时报》。
Export would improve China's market competitiveness in the international arms trade as other countries, such the US and Russia, are eagerly promoting their third-generation jets - the F-15, F16, Su-27 and Su-30 - worldwide, while China's customers, in contrast, are still using the second-generation J-7 or J-8, said Song Zhongping, a military critic.
"Since China now has the more advanced J-11 and J-11B, and is developing the fourth-generation J-20 and J-31, we should be more confident that exporting our technology won't lead to any leaks," noted Song, adding that it would also be efficient to test the maturity of technology and products through export.
“出口将改善中国在国际武器贸易里与其他国家的市场竞争力，如美国和俄罗斯，都急切地推销他们的第三代喷气机——F-15、F16、SU-27和SU-30，在全球范围，只有中国的客户相比之下，依然在使用第二代的J-7、J-8。”军事评论家宋忠平说。
“由于中国现在有更先进的J-11和J-11B，并正在开发第四代的J-20和J-31，我们应该更加自信，输出我们的技术不会导致任何泄漏，”宋补充说道，“通过出口也是一种高效的成熟技术和产品的测试方法。
http://www.santaihu.com/third-generation-fighter-jets-await-export-approval.html
The J-10, China's domestically made third-generation jet fighter, has not been exported due to the lack of license issued by Chinese authorities, Ma Zhiping, vice president of the State-owned China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation, said Wednesday.
In a response to overseas media reports and public speculation that the J-10 has been exported to Pakistan, Ma was quoted by the news portal huanqiu.com as saying that he can state that not a single J-10 has been shipped to Pakistan.
"Obtaining a national permit in advance of exporting it is top priority," Ma said on the sidelines of the ongoing 15th Aviation Expo/China 2013 in Beijing.
国有中国国家航空技术进出口总公司副总裁马治平在周三声称：中制第三代喷气战斗机J-10，由于缺乏中国当局颁发的许可证，目前尚不允许出口。
为了回应海外媒体的报道和公众的猜测说J-10已出口到巴基斯坦，新闻门户网站环球网引述他的话说：可以说没有一架J-10运抵过巴基斯坦。（译者：注意这里用的是“shipped”即“船运抵”，不代表没有直接“飞抵”哦）
“获得国家出口许可证才是重中之重，”马治平在正举办的第15届2013年中国北京航空博览会间歇上说。
The country, which launched a research program for a new generation jet fighter in 1984, saw the aircraft's first trial 14 years later. The jet officially came into service in 2006.
"We can anticipate good export prospects, as many potential customers have shown great interest in it and have made enquiries on the price. Many Asian, African and Latin American countries, which include users of Chinese, ex-Soviet and French fighters, form a huge clientele," said Ma.
The chances are that the export will be permitted and it will surely be meaningful in opening a new chapter of exporting China's military equipment, Xu Zelong, a deputy director of the newspaper China Aviation News, told the Global Times.
中国于1984年推出了新一代喷气式战斗机的研究计划，14年之后这款飞机实现首次试飞，并于2006年正式投入现役。
“我们可以预见良好的出口前景，许多潜在客户已经表现出极大的兴趣，并曾询问过价格，这些国家（涵盖了）亚洲，非洲和拉美，其中包括中国，前苏联和法国战机的用户，形成了一个庞大的客户群。”马说。
“有机会获批允许出口的话，对中国军事装备出口来说是打开了新的篇章，是极具意义的。”《中国民航报》副主任许则笼告诉《环球时报》。
Export would improve China's market competitiveness in the international arms trade as other countries, such the US and Russia, are eagerly promoting their third-generation jets - the F-15, F16, Su-27 and Su-30 - worldwide, while China's customers, in contrast, are still using the second-generation J-7 or J-8, said Song Zhongping, a military critic.
"Since China now has the more advanced J-11 and J-11B, and is developing the fourth-generation J-20 and J-31, we should be more confident that exporting our technology won't lead to any leaks," noted Song, adding that it would also be efficient to test the maturity of technology and products through export.
“出口将改善中国在国际武器贸易里与其他国家的市场竞争力，如美国和俄罗斯，都急切地推销他们的第三代喷气机——F-15、F16、SU-27和SU-30，在全球范围，只有中国的客户相比之下，依然在使用第二代的J-7、J-8。”军事评论家宋忠平说。
“由于中国现在有更先进的J-11和J-11B，并正在开发第四代的J-20和J-31，我们应该更加自信，输出我们的技术不会导致任何泄漏，”宋补充说道，“通过出口也是一种高效的成熟技术和产品的测试方法。
http://www.santaihu.com/third-generation-fighter-jets-await-export-approval.html
In a response to overseas media reports and public speculation that the J-10 has been exported to Pakistan, Ma was quoted by the news portal huanqiu.com as saying that he can state that not a single J-10 has been shipped to Pakistan.
"Obtaining a national permit in advance of exporting it is top priority," Ma said on the sidelines of the ongoing 15th Aviation Expo/China 2013 in Beijing.
国有中国国家航空技术进出口总公司副总裁马治平在周三声称：中制第三代喷气战斗机J-10，由于缺乏中国当局颁发的许可证，目前尚不允许出口。
为了回应海外媒体的报道和公众的猜测说J-10已出口到巴基斯坦，新闻门户网站环球网引述他的话说：可以说没有一架J-10运抵过巴基斯坦。（译者：注意这里用的是“shipped”即“船运抵”，不代表没有直接“飞抵”哦）
“获得国家出口许可证才是重中之重，”马治平在正举办的第15届2013年中国北京航空博览会间歇上说。
The country, which launched a research program for a new generation jet fighter in 1984, saw the aircraft's first trial 14 years later. The jet officially came into service in 2006.
"We can anticipate good export prospects, as many potential customers have shown great interest in it and have made enquiries on the price. Many Asian, African and Latin American countries, which include users of Chinese, ex-Soviet and French fighters, form a huge clientele," said Ma.
The chances are that the export will be permitted and it will surely be meaningful in opening a new chapter of exporting China's military equipment, Xu Zelong, a deputy director of the newspaper China Aviation News, told the Global Times.
中国于1984年推出了新一代喷气式战斗机的研究计划，14年之后这款飞机实现首次试飞，并于2006年正式投入现役。
“我们可以预见良好的出口前景，许多潜在客户已经表现出极大的兴趣，并曾询问过价格，这些国家（涵盖了）亚洲，非洲和拉美，其中包括中国，前苏联和法国战机的用户，形成了一个庞大的客户群。”马说。
“有机会获批允许出口的话，对中国军事装备出口来说是打开了新的篇章，是极具意义的。”《中国民航报》副主任许则笼告诉《环球时报》。
Export would improve China's market competitiveness in the international arms trade as other countries, such the US and Russia, are eagerly promoting their third-generation jets - the F-15, F16, Su-27 and Su-30 - worldwide, while China's customers, in contrast, are still using the second-generation J-7 or J-8, said Song Zhongping, a military critic.
"Since China now has the more advanced J-11 and J-11B, and is developing the fourth-generation J-20 and J-31, we should be more confident that exporting our technology won't lead to any leaks," noted Song, adding that it would also be efficient to test the maturity of technology and products through export.
“出口将改善中国在国际武器贸易里与其他国家的市场竞争力，如美国和俄罗斯，都急切地推销他们的第三代喷气机——F-15、F16、SU-27和SU-30，在全球范围，只有中国的客户相比之下，依然在使用第二代的J-7、J-8。”军事评论家宋忠平说。
“由于中国现在有更先进的J-11和J-11B，并正在开发第四代的J-20和J-31，我们应该更加自信，输出我们的技术不会导致任何泄漏，”宋补充说道，“通过出口也是一种高效的成熟技术和产品的测试方法。
http://www.santaihu.com/third-generation-fighter-jets-await-export-approval.html
The J-10, China's domestically made third-generation jet fighter, has not been exported due to the lack of license issued by Chinese authorities, Ma Zhiping, vice president of the State-owned China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation, said Wednesday.
In a response to overseas media reports and public speculation that the J-10 has been exported to Pakistan, Ma was quoted by the news portal huanqiu.com as saying that he can state that not a single J-10 has been shipped to Pakistan.
"Obtaining a national permit in advance of exporting it is top priority," Ma said on the sidelines of the ongoing 15th Aviation Expo/China 2013 in Beijing.
国有中国国家航空技术进出口总公司副总裁马治平在周三声称：中制第三代喷气战斗机J-10，由于缺乏中国当局颁发的许可证，目前尚不允许出口。
为了回应海外媒体的报道和公众的猜测说J-10已出口到巴基斯坦，新闻门户网站环球网引述他的话说：可以说没有一架J-10运抵过巴基斯坦。（译者：注意这里用的是“shipped”即“船运抵”，不代表没有直接“飞抵”哦）
“获得国家出口许可证才是重中之重，”马治平在正举办的第15届2013年中国北京航空博览会间歇上说。
The country, which launched a research program for a new generation jet fighter in 1984, saw the aircraft's first trial 14 years later. The jet officially came into service in 2006.
"We can anticipate good export prospects, as many potential customers have shown great interest in it and have made enquiries on the price. Many Asian, African and Latin American countries, which include users of Chinese, ex-Soviet and French fighters, form a huge clientele," said Ma.
The chances are that the export will be permitted and it will surely be meaningful in opening a new chapter of exporting China's military equipment, Xu Zelong, a deputy director of the newspaper China Aviation News, told the Global Times.
中国于1984年推出了新一代喷气式战斗机的研究计划，14年之后这款飞机实现首次试飞，并于2006年正式投入现役。
“我们可以预见良好的出口前景，许多潜在客户已经表现出极大的兴趣，并曾询问过价格，这些国家（涵盖了）亚洲，非洲和拉美，其中包括中国，前苏联和法国战机的用户，形成了一个庞大的客户群。”马说。
“有机会获批允许出口的话，对中国军事装备出口来说是打开了新的篇章，是极具意义的。”《中国民航报》副主任许则笼告诉《环球时报》。
Export would improve China's market competitiveness in the international arms trade as other countries, such the US and Russia, are eagerly promoting their third-generation jets - the F-15, F16, Su-27 and Su-30 - worldwide, while China's customers, in contrast, are still using the second-generation J-7 or J-8, said Song Zhongping, a military critic.
"Since China now has the more advanced J-11 and J-11B, and is developing the fourth-generation J-20 and J-31, we should be more confident that exporting our technology won't lead to any leaks," noted Song, adding that it would also be efficient to test the maturity of technology and products through export.
“出口将改善中国在国际武器贸易里与其他国家的市场竞争力，如美国和俄罗斯，都急切地推销他们的第三代喷气机——F-15、F16、SU-27和SU-30，在全球范围，只有中国的客户相比之下，依然在使用第二代的J-7、J-8。”军事评论家宋忠平说。
“由于中国现在有更先进的J-11和J-11B，并正在开发第四代的J-20和J-31，我们应该更加自信，输出我们的技术不会导致任何泄漏，”宋补充说道，“通过出口也是一种高效的成熟技术和产品的测试方法。
http://www.santaihu.com/third-generation-fighter-jets-await-export-approval.html
估计这么说的时候，就快允许了。期待。
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
也许，
三代获批之日 粽子立项之时
三代获批之日 粽子立项之时
这个可能还得一段时间 主要是供不应求。
印度松了口气？
yidianyuan 发表于 2013-10-10 21:33
估计这么说的时候，就快允许了。期待。
现在我兔兔才300来架了 出口还要个5/年
估计这么说的时候，就快允许了。期待。
现在我兔兔才300来架了 出口还要个5/年
aliaselin 发表于 2013-10-10 21:39
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
筷子你出不去啊
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
筷子你出不去啊
印度连说别人的新闻也是“将”啊，这是语法习惯吗
aliaselin 发表于 2013-10-10 21:39
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
筷子出口的话，老毛子会...............
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
筷子出口的话，老毛子会...............
棍子出口，丝带就量产，要不然不会这么快出口
铁蓑 发表于 2013-10-10 21:52
印度连说别人的新闻也是“将”啊，这是语法习惯吗
不用‘将’用什么，用‘已经’？？？？？
印度连说别人的新闻也是“将”啊，这是语法习惯吗
不用‘将’用什么，用‘已经’？？？？？
太行不过关,歼十装什么发动机出口?
毛子会同意歼十装AL31出口吗?
毛子会同意歼十装AL31出口吗?
chaifox 发表于 2013-10-10 23:12
太行不过关,歼十装什么发动机出口?
毛子会同意歼十装AL31出口吗?
枭龙能卖，AL31为啥就不能卖？
太行不过关,歼十装什么发动机出口?
毛子会同意歼十装AL31出口吗?
枭龙能卖，AL31为啥就不能卖？
吹毛求疵一下，shipped泛指各种运输方式，并不是特指船哦。{:soso_e117:}
bhedgehog 发表于 2013-10-11 02:02
枭龙能卖，AL31为啥就不能卖？
枭龙应该与米格29和苏27的市场冲突不大，J10就不一样了
枭龙能卖，AL31为啥就不能卖？
枭龙应该与米格29和苏27的市场冲突不大，J10就不一样了
一个是发动机，一个是产能。三代出口现在还不乐观
10a 已经停产 10b才刚出来 不好弄吧
阿三都比较“实在”的，11比10大，肯定就比10先进的啦，同理K的就比M的先进嘛
三代机唯一的出口可能就是歼十
其实三锅是想说，集齐5大流氓的飞机，安理会会满足他一个愿望
铁蓑 发表于 2013-10-10 21:52
印度连说别人的新闻也是“将”啊，这是语法习惯吗
不是 因为这篇新闻是天朝写的
只是有人转到了印度论坛而已。
印度连说别人的新闻也是“将”啊，这是语法习惯吗
不是 因为这篇新闻是天朝写的
只是有人转到了印度论坛而已。
aliaselin 发表于 2013-10-10 21:39
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
27的衍生机型毛子不允许出口吧。
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
27的衍生机型毛子不允许出口吧。
bhedgehog 发表于 2013-10-11 02:02
枭龙能卖，AL31为啥就不能卖？
放眼世界,还需要进口三代机的国家,有可能买俄毛飞机的,如果买了歼十,就不可能再买俄毛的.没那许多小钱钱.
同样买了俄毛的,就不可能再买其他家的.
所以是直接竞争关系,毛子不会为了赚AL31的小钱,断了赚整机和配套武器的大钱.
枭龙能卖，AL31为啥就不能卖？
放眼世界,还需要进口三代机的国家,有可能买俄毛飞机的,如果买了歼十,就不可能再买俄毛的.没那许多小钱钱.
同样买了俄毛的,就不可能再买其他家的.
所以是直接竞争关系,毛子不会为了赚AL31的小钱,断了赚整机和配套武器的大钱.
印度人瞎掰吧，8爷没出口过吧。
棍B出来了 棍A的确可以出口，关键太行不太行，即使行了出口岂不是等于把发动机最高水平泄漏了？而且如果给小巴的话 要不要猴 猴多少都是一个问题
J10，自己都不够用，出口给那些穷兄弟，得贷款，还不知道收不收得回来钱，为什么要出口？
aliaselin 发表于 2013-10-10 21:39
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
不说J11更先进，对得起自家跟J11颇有渊源的SU30MKI呢？
J-11更先进？就凭它那老式PD雷达？
不说J11更先进，对得起自家跟J11颇有渊源的SU30MKI呢？
我第一个反应是太行发动机行了？出口用太行，自己用AL31
我第一个反应是太行发动机行了？出口用太行，自己用AL31
太行已死，有事烧纸。
峨眉当立，岁在甲子。当然ws15也不咋快就是了。
太行已死，有事烧纸。
峨眉当立，岁在甲子。当然ws15也不咋快就是了。
其实三锅是想说，集齐5大流氓的飞机，安理会会满足他一个愿望
哈哈哈哈，什么愿望，让他出口恒河水和神油吗？
哈哈哈哈，什么愿望，让他出口恒河水和神油吗？
自己产量都不够，还外卖，八字没一撇，等j20服役了在扯吧。
棍子出口毛子拿什么竞争？？27？知道兔子的军演消息谁还要27，29完全就是臭的，能买到棍子的不会要。只有35不过那个价格。。。。。。。。。。
还是发动机问题，老毛子会同意用它的发动机吗？
显然不可能是筷子。因为既牵涉毛子产权问题。又关乎外交战略。一般来说出口重型机。是属于进攻性武器。国际上掀起的波澜太大。轻型中型机本身就是定位国土防空。出口就顺理成章。那就只能是棍子。而棍A已停产。可棍B没几家买的起。且产量尚未自足。另外真正有意向又有购买力的貌似没有出现。所以现阶段可能性极低。土鸡似乎倒是有潜在市场