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有新闻图片无链接  南棒子选了寂静鹰

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2013/08/18/82/0301000000AEN20130818001451315F.html

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http://www.skilledpilots.net/aviation-news/trending/boeings-f15se-reportedly-chosen-as-final-candidate-for-s-koreas-next-main-yonhap-news





(2nd LD) Boeing's F-15SE reportedly chosen as final candidate for S. Korea's next fighter plane

2013/08/18 17:28





SEOUL, Aug. 18 (Yonhap) - The Eurofighter Tranche 3 Typhoon by the European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS) has reportedly been eliminated from South Korea's multibillion-dollar fighter jet project, leaving Boeing's F-15 Silent Eagle as the sole final candidate, government sources said Sunday.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said that one of the two finalists -- Boeing and EADS -- in the nation's 8.3 trillion won (US$7.2 billion) fighter project has dropped out of the bidding due to problems with their documents.

EADS is known as the company to have stepped out of the race, according to sources in Seoul.

"We disqualified the concerned company and will consider the remaining one firm as a candidate in the committee for defense procurement projects," the DAPA said in a release, citing "flaws found in the bidding documents" as reasons of the elimination.

Although the DAPA required the bidders to submit prices for 15 two-seater jets and 45 single-seat jets, EADS reduced the number of double-seater aircraft to six, and offered prices based on the British pound, according to a company official.

"We submitted the proposal to meet the budget because two-seater jets are more expensive than single-seat jets," the senior EADS official said. "Out of 54 jets, the proposal offers to assemble 53 aircraft in South Korea."

   The DAPA will conduct an assessment on the jets and finally pick a winner in a committee meeting, which is to be presided over by Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin in mid-September, according to officials.

The competition to win the South Korean project narrowed to a two-way race last week after the two aerospace firms offered their fighter jets for prices below the South Korea's state budget set at 8.3 trillion won. Another player, Lockheed Martin, submitted a price for its F-35 stealth, exceeding the state budget.

Seoul had initially picked a bidder last October with the goal of receiving the first delivery in December 2016, but it postponed the schedule to get the first batch in August 2017 to replace aging fleet of F-4s and F-5s in accordance with the delayed procedure.

Boeing has stressed the interoperability of the F-15 SE with other models purchased in the first two stages of the fighter modernization programs. Seoul has purchased 60 Boeing F-15 fighter jets since 2002.

It doesn't offer the same radar signature reduction as an F-35 and is only optimized for air-to-air combat stealth. What it does offer is greatly improved radar stealth over the F-15K and internal weapons.

pbr@yna.co.kr

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有新闻图片无链接  南棒子选了寂静鹰

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2013/08/18/82/0301000000AEN20130818001451315F.html

或者
http://www.skilledpilots.net/aviation-news/trending/boeings-f15se-reportedly-chosen-as-final-candidate-for-s-koreas-next-main-yonhap-news





(2nd LD) Boeing's F-15SE reportedly chosen as final candidate for S. Korea's next fighter plane

2013/08/18 17:28





SEOUL, Aug. 18 (Yonhap) - The Eurofighter Tranche 3 Typhoon by the European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company (EADS) has reportedly been eliminated from South Korea's multibillion-dollar fighter jet project, leaving Boeing's F-15 Silent Eagle as the sole final candidate, government sources said Sunday.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said that one of the two finalists -- Boeing and EADS -- in the nation's 8.3 trillion won (US$7.2 billion) fighter project has dropped out of the bidding due to problems with their documents.

EADS is known as the company to have stepped out of the race, according to sources in Seoul.

"We disqualified the concerned company and will consider the remaining one firm as a candidate in the committee for defense procurement projects," the DAPA said in a release, citing "flaws found in the bidding documents" as reasons of the elimination.

Although the DAPA required the bidders to submit prices for 15 two-seater jets and 45 single-seat jets, EADS reduced the number of double-seater aircraft to six, and offered prices based on the British pound, according to a company official.

"We submitted the proposal to meet the budget because two-seater jets are more expensive than single-seat jets," the senior EADS official said. "Out of 54 jets, the proposal offers to assemble 53 aircraft in South Korea."

   The DAPA will conduct an assessment on the jets and finally pick a winner in a committee meeting, which is to be presided over by Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin in mid-September, according to officials.

The competition to win the South Korean project narrowed to a two-way race last week after the two aerospace firms offered their fighter jets for prices below the South Korea's state budget set at 8.3 trillion won. Another player, Lockheed Martin, submitted a price for its F-35 stealth, exceeding the state budget.

Seoul had initially picked a bidder last October with the goal of receiving the first delivery in December 2016, but it postponed the schedule to get the first batch in August 2017 to replace aging fleet of F-4s and F-5s in accordance with the delayed procedure.

Boeing has stressed the interoperability of the F-15 SE with other models purchased in the first two stages of the fighter modernization programs. Seoul has purchased 60 Boeing F-15 fighter jets since 2002.

It doesn't offer the same radar signature reduction as an F-35 and is only optimized for air-to-air combat stealth. What it does offer is greatly improved radar stealth over the F-15K and internal weapons.

pbr@yna.co.kr

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哪位大仙把他翻译成白话文行不?
波音公司的F-15SE据说选为韩国的未来战机的最终候选人

2013年8月18日17:28





据报道,首尔,8月18日(韩联社) - 在欧洲战斗机第一批3台风的欧洲航空防务和航天公司(EADS)已经被淘汰韩国的数十亿美元的战斗机喷气机项目,作为唯一的最终离开波音公司的F-15沉默鹰候选人,政府消息人士说,星期天。

国防采办项目局(DAPA)表示,二位决赛选手 - 波音公司和欧洲宇​​航防务集团 - 在国家的8.3万亿韩元(7.2美元亿美元)战斗机项目招标文件的问题,由于已经跌出。

EADS公司已经走出了比赛,被称为在汉城来源。

DAPA说:“我们被取消资格的有关公司,并会考虑剩下的一家律师事务所作为一名候选人在该委员会中的国防采购项目,”在一份新闻稿中,援引“在招标文件中发现的缺陷”的原因消除。

DAPA虽然要求投标人提交的价格15双座型飞机和45单座飞机,EADS双座位的飞机数量减少到6个,并提供基于英镑的价格,根据公司官方。

EADS高级官员说:“我们提交的建议,因为双座飞机是更昂贵的比单座飞机,以满足预算,”。 “出54架飞机,建议提供在韩国组装53架飞机。”

   DAPA将在喷气机上进行的评估,并最终挑选一个赢家,这是要由国防部长官金关金在9月中旬主持委员会会议,根据官员。

竞争中取胜韩国的项目收窄至一个双向的比赛后,上周的两个航空航天公司提供战斗机价格低于韩国的国家预算在8.3万亿韩元。另一名球员,洛克希德马丁公司,提交了其F-35隐形价格,超过了国家预算。

首尔当初挑了投标人去年10月与2016年12月接收首批交付的目标,但它的时间表推迟到2017年8月获得首批更换老化的F-4和F-5秒的舰队按照延迟的程序。

波音公司的F-15 SE强调互操作性与其他型号的战斗机现代化计划的前两个阶段购买。自2002年以来,首尔已经购买了60架波音F-15战斗机。

它不提供相同的F-35的雷达信号减少和优化的空气对空作战的隐身。它确实提供了很大的提高雷达隐身的F-15K和内部武器。
hnsr2012 发表于 2013-8-18 19:25
哪位大仙把他翻译成白话文行不?
翻了,网管们审核中 尚未放出来
killjapaneses 发表于 2013-8-18 19:27
翻了,网管们审核中 尚未放出来
肥电真的落选了?
选鹰很正常。和播音关系好呗。
棒子这样的国家要军队都没什么用
tmd168 发表于 2013-8-18 20:06
棒子这样的国家要军队都没什么用
啥时候有种把战时指挥权接住再说吧
意料之中,F15以外的战机基本都是陪标
意料之中,一是绝不敢得罪干爹,二是与原有的15K继承。
寂寞鹰以后不寂寞了
沉默鹰还是不错的,也够用了。
台风本就是陪太子读书,如果不选四代机那一定也是鹰队,统一后勤还是很有效的,棒子又不是阿三这种奇葩国
最强鹰机队。。。
肥电现在不买以后也要买,棒子自产的四代机还在画yy图的程度,兔子、毛子四代机不可能卖到棒子那里去,美帝20年内难有新的可出口的隐形制空机,除了F-35A,棒子实在是没有别的选择,除非就这么落后下去。
既然早晚要买,为何不现在就下手呢?虽说贵了点,但相对沉默鹰,毕竟是有代差的。
awentom 发表于 2013-8-18 20:39
最强鹰机队。。。
我一直以为最强15部队是在MD和以色列手里,不能仅仅凭借武器性能来看部队战斗力
killjapaneses 发表于 2013-8-18 19:25
波音公司的F-15SE据说选为韩国的未来战机的最终候选人

2013年8月18日17:28
看这翻译很蛋疼------
killjapaneses 发表于 2013-8-18 19:25
波音公司的F-15SE据说选为韩国的未来战机的最终候选人

2013年8月18日17:28
这还不如不翻呢,翻了是对汉语的侮辱,不是人话简直!
始终觉得类似沉默鹰这种货色都是坑爹脸,棒子难道真要当接盘侠?以后面对鬼子的肥电落了下风别哭爹喊娘哦~
It doesn't offer the same radar signature reduction as an F-35 and is only optimized for air-to-air combat stealth. What it does offer is greatly improved radar stealth over the F-15K and internal weapons.
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啥意思?求解毒。
正常,后勤压力小,有人员和技术储备,形成战斗力快
killjapaneses 发表于 2013-8-18 19:25
波音公司的F-15SE据说选为韩国的未来战机的最终候选人

2013年8月18日17:28
作为二当家的,欧洲想在大哥的马仔那里捞油水纯属妄想。

看来国内的涨价听证会确实是和国际接轨了。都是走形式,做样子看的。

台风就跟中国威胁论一样,就是个炒作陪榜的。






aaagggzzz 发表于 2013-8-18 21:30
看这翻译很蛋疼------
那这个帖子就是适合女士看的咯
棒子和新加坡还真是........
黑鸟522 发表于 2013-8-18 21:14
我一直以为最强15部队是在MD和以色列手里,不能仅仅凭借武器性能来看部队战斗力
偶指的是亚洲。。。
awentom 发表于 2013-8-19 09:23
偶指的是亚洲。。。
那你觉得以色列是什么洲?
xixishiroubao 发表于 2013-8-19 10:19
那你觉得以色列是什么洲?
郁闷了,东亚。。。
awentom 发表于 2013-8-19 10:38
郁闷了,东亚。。。
别郁闷啊亲。论自称棒子的F15可以完爆外星人歼星舰的,区区小鬼子老土鳖死包皮岂能放在眼里。
沉默鹰空战干得过肥婝吗?
thomas1987 发表于 2013-8-18 21:35
始终觉得类似沉默鹰这种货色都是坑爹脸,棒子难道真要当接盘侠?以后面对鬼子的肥电落了下风别哭爹喊娘哦~{ ...

对大陆,国力不在一个位面上;对日本,再怎么翻脸也不可能刀兵相见。

唯一真正有可能过招的对手是北方,沉默鹰的制空能力已经是过杀了,反而对地能力更重要些。

早就料到了

敢不买爸爸的东西 找屎么?!
温斯顿 发表于 2013-8-19 16:08
对大陆,国力不在一个位面上;对日本,再怎么翻脸也不可能刀兵相见。

唯一真正有可能过招的对手是北 ...
不,南棒和脚盆还是有较劲的,南棒因为15K强过15J很是得瑟。等到脚盆装备肥电比沉默鹰更强的时候,南棒铁定不淡定
最近爆料的J—11D如果能达到沉默鹰的水平俺就摆酒庆祝了。
snldj 发表于 2013-8-19 16:56
最近爆料的J—11D如果能达到沉默鹰的水平俺就摆酒庆祝了。
yes
hlferd 发表于 2013-8-18 21:52
It doesn't offer the same radar signature reduction as an F-35 and is only optimized for air-to-air  ...
该XX没有提供和F35一样的雷达信号还原功能(是指F35的被动截获么?),且仅仅针对空对空战斗隐身探测进行了优化。实际上该XX提供的是相比F15K有所提升的雷达隐身能力和内置武器系统。


乱翻的!
中性鸡真是吃不开啊,连新加坡这么芝麻大的国家都要15.
不,南棒和脚盆还是有较劲的,南棒因为15K强过15J很是得瑟。等到脚盆装备肥电比沉默鹰更强的时候,南棒铁 ...
费电  空战就未必比   se   厉害,我觉得也就是半斤八两。格斗的话。应该还是se   厉害点吧。  se的雷达航电也是  最新的   应该不比费电   差吧。最后就是  隐形了。费电的隐形能力  明显不如  娘娘,并不是全方向隐身。而se也是做了隐形  修型的   据说比f15要强很多。就是不知道和  费电  比如何。所以两机空战的话  各有千秋。半斤八两
systemid 发表于 2013-8-19 17:54
费电  空战就未必比   se   厉害,我觉得也就是半斤八两。格斗的话。应该还是se   厉害点吧。  se的雷达 ...
隐身,态势感知,光这两点优势肥电就可以完全在空站中压制隐身鹰了,三代再改,也是非隐身外形,靠拉皮效果有限,而态势感知更不用说了,几乎是有代差的东西
=xo= 发表于 2013-8-19 16:26
早就料到了

敢不买爸爸的东西 找屎么?!
完全赞同,台风就是陪衬,我看下次再换代招标,欧洲那帮就干脆不来的了,香阵风一样,完全浪费表情嘛
台风淘汰不意外,关键是肥电都不要了?