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英国核防御报告评审 18 日结束，英国政府不顾反对党，议会和英国民众的反对，执意决定推行 ”三叉戟“核力量替换计划，而这一计划将总共耗资超过 1000 亿英镑，成为世界海军有史以来最昂贵的交易。新的战略核潜艇将由英国BAE公司负责设计和建造，具体计划将于 2016 年交由政府审核。目前，BAE 公司联合英国国防部已经开始招募数千名科研人才，并获得超过 60 亿英镑的资金进行技术研发。
英国在冷战结束数十年后，并且在”经济紧缩“境况下一边喊穷，一边大手笔的穷兵黩武。1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支。
http:// www .i ndependent. co.uk/voices/comment/trident-does-britain-need-a-submarinebased-nuclear-missile-system-that-will-cost-100-billion-8713541.html
https: // www. gov. uk/successor-submarine-recruitment
英国核防御报告评审 18 日结束，英国政府不顾反对党，议会和英国民众的反对，执意决定推行 ”三叉戟“核力量替换计划，而这一计划将总共耗资超过 1000 亿英镑，成为世界海军有史以来最昂贵的交易。新的战略核潜艇将由英国BAE公司负责设计和建造，具体计划将于 2016 年交由政府审核。目前，BAE 公司联合英国国防部已经开始招募数千名科研人才，并获得超过 60 亿英镑的资金进行技术研发。
英国在冷战结束数十年后，并且在”经济紧缩“境况下一边喊穷，一边大手笔的穷兵黩武。1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支。
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一千亿日元拿的出？
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
lancer27 发表于 2013-7-23 01:19
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
英国的航母，三叉戟核鱼，攻击核鱼，驱逐舰，护卫舰，两栖登陆舰，台风战机，鹞式战机，无人机，导弹 都是BAE，连美国航母的磁弹炮，阻拦锁都是。。。
lancer27 发表于 2013-7-23 01:19
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
英国的航母，三叉戟核鱼，攻击核鱼，驱逐舰，护卫舰，两栖登陆舰，台风战机，鹞式战机，无人机，导弹 都是BAE，连美国航母的磁弹炮，阻拦锁都是。。。
lancer27 发表于 2013-7-23 01:19
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
BAE是全球第一大武器制造商
连洛马和波音都是小弟
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
BAE是全球第一大武器制造商
连洛马和波音都是小弟
BAE的公关能力确实强
这钱不花就真的只能当小弟了，必须花的钱当然要花。
一个年军费400多亿英镑的国家，花1000亿来搞这个项目，这是一种怎样的精神？
bae整合美英两国的军工企业
下一步就是整合欧洲的军工企业
然后就是远征星辰大海了
支持一下bae
下一步就是整合欧洲的军工企业
然后就是远征星辰大海了
支持一下bae
20年内还是30年内投资1000亿？？？
核导弹和核弹头还用美国的吗？？？
核导弹和核弹头还用美国的吗？？？
一个年军费400多亿英镑的国家，花1000亿来搞这个项目，这是一种怎样的精神？
牛牛军费一年有400亿英镑？
牛牛军费一年有400亿英镑？
兔在回路 发表于 2013-7-23 07:35
牛牛军费一年有400亿英镑？
600亿美金，差不多就是400亿英镑啊
牛牛军费一年有400亿英镑？
600亿美金，差不多就是400亿英镑啊
1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支 -------------介个是 肿么算的？
蛋总 发表于 2013-7-23 09:44
1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支 -------------介个是 肿么算的？
1000亿英镑相当于万亿软妹币。2012中国的军费是7000亿软妹币吧，所以说相当于是没错的。
1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支 -------------介个是 肿么算的？
1000亿英镑相当于万亿软妹币。2012中国的军费是7000亿软妹币吧，所以说相当于是没错的。
2016年才是决策未来SSBN主要支出的时间点，在这之前的前期费用大约30多亿英镑。
Successor submarine recruitment
The Successor submarine programme will deliver the replacement for the Vanguard fleet of nuclear submarines
Contents
Man's most complex machine
The role of the Ministry of Defence
Work for us
Job roles and location
See more like this
The Astute SubmarineMan’s most complex machine
The project has now exited the concept design phase with the broad configuration of the submarine and its systems now understood. Work has now begun on the detailed design which will further develop the conceptual solution into a detailed suite of information ready for manufacture.
It is the most complex and high value engineering programme underway anywhere within the United Kingdom. The complexity of the technology and costs involved dwarf those of the London 2012 Olympics Infrastructure Programme. Some £900 million was spent developing the submarine concept design and up to £3 billion will be spent developing the detailed designs and ordering long lead items before a final ‘Main Gate’ investment decision is taken in 2016. As previously announced to Parliament, the final cost of the replacement deterrent programme is expected to be some £15-20 billion at 2006/2007 prices.
Some 1,500+ project management, commercial and engineering professionals are now working on Successor within the first tier of suppliers reporting directly to the Ministry of Defence. Large numbers of high value contracts have already been let by these major suppliers and the pace and scale of the work within industry is set to increase rapidly over the coming years.
Put simply, a nuclear submarine is the most complex machine ever conceived and constructed by man. It is totally self-sufficient in terms of air, water, power and all the other life support services required to sustain the crew for several months at a time and comprises some of the most sensitive national security technology available within the UK.
Computer generated image of the Astute Class SubmarineThe role of the Ministry of Defence
Recognising the scale of the challenge and the technical risk associated with the programme, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) has adopted a different approach for managing the design of the submarine from that applied to the Astute Class. An Integrated Programme Management Team has been established which involves MOD in the day to day running of the project at both a tactical and strategic level. Furthermore, MOD has retained the design authority function ‘in-house’ and is therefore heavily reliant on a small number of highly qualified and experienced engineering personnel to make significant design decisions and approve the designs generated within industry.
As such, the team managing the project are required to become more heavily involved in the engineering design, agreement of technical and capability requirements, and management of budgets and programme schedules than would normally be the case for a procuring organisation. This places additional demands on the professionalism and engineering or project management competence of the individuals within the project team.
Royal Navy submarine HMS Astute sails up the Clyde estuaryWork for us
As the pace of the programme increases,MOD is seeking additional high calibre engineers and project managers to join this high tech and exciting project to lead the programme through to the ‘Main Gate’ investment decision and beyond. In recognition of the coming challenge up to an additional twenty roles have been created to focus across a range of technical and programme management disciplines. For the technical roles, previous submarine or maritime design experience is desirable but not a prerequisite, although an ability to work independently, challenge the status quo and make complex judgments based on incomplete information is essential.
We therefore offer a unique opportunity to work on the biggest and most complex engineering programme underway in the UK. We continue to stretch the boundaries of technological achievement whilst challenging ourselves to deliver value for money and capabilities in support of UK national security objectives. We are offering both rewarding and challenging careers and a range of benefits beyond salary which are amongst the most competitive in the current UK employment market. In return for the commitment and dedication that we expect, we can offer a rewarding and structured environment for the future.
Escorted by tugs, Royal Navy submarine HMS Astute sails up the Clyde estuaryJob roles and location
A range of opportunities are available across both engineering and programme or project management focused roles. The opportunities fall across three grades – B2 / Grade 7 (internal applicants only – 1 role), C1 / SEO (approximately 5 roles) and C2 / HEO (approximately 15 roles) and a separate job requisition exists for each grade. See How to apply.
A number of the opportunities would be suitable for candidates without an engineering background. The roles fall into the following broad areas. Expected grades of the posts have also been provided although the exact distribution of grades and job roles will be agreed as part of the selection process.
•B2 (internal only): Engineering System Owner for Secondary Propulsion (see Civil Service Jobs Requisition)
•C1/C2: Engineering and project management of submarine subsystems in the electrical, mechanical, propulsion, combat systems, strategic weapons system and naval architecture teams
•C2: Programme and delivery management responsibility for those items of equipment provided into the industrial programme by the UK government
•C2: Delivery of support and advice relating to the build ability and spatial arrangement of the submarine design; submarine operating experience would be useful in the latter area
•C1/C2: Responsibility within the safety and assurance teams with a focus on quality management, information assurance or environmental engineering
•C1: Responsibility for functional integration across boat systems
•C2: Management of the accumulation of the engineering evidence necessary to support the main investment business case in support of the Main Gate investment decision expected in 2016
•C2: Dedicated roles relating to corrosion management, supportability, survivability and other specialist monitoring systems unique to submarines
•C1/C2: “Chief of Staff” type support to senior engineering managers with an emphasis on financial reporting, team planning and coordination, documentation review and resource management
Individuals applying through the Civil Service Jobs system will be considered against the full range of roles available at each grade, however, applicants are encouraged to specify a preference within their application relating to the opportunities outlined above. Those applying for the Band C1 (Grade 8 / SEO) roles ‘may’ also be considered for suitability at Band C2 (Grade 9 / HEO) if found to be unsuitable at the higher grade and if opportunities remain at the lower grade once specific applicants to that grade have already been selected. Applicants may apply to more than one requisition.
The MOD project team is based and managed from Bristol, however, many individuals are permanently based at the premises of the main industrial contractor in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria. Roles are therefore available in both Bristol and Barrow and a final decision will be made following a discussion between the prospective line manager and the individual. A location preference may be specified within the application.
Rewards and benefits
A competitive package of benefits is being offered including a generous defined benefit pension scheme, flexible working arrangements, and excellent training and career development opportunities. The salary at B2 / Grade 7 (internal applicants only) is £47,942 - £57,245; at C1 / SEO it is £35,648 - £42,565 and at C2 / HEO it is £29,258 - £34,936. Additional retention allowances may be available for some specialist roles once the required experience and training criteria have been met. For internal applicants, relocation expenses may be available for those wishing to relocate to Barrow although this requires formal agreement internally before it can be offered. For external applicants a ‘new starter’ package may be available.
Astute class submarine HMS Ambush is pictured during sea trials near ScotlandFurther information
For further information on current opportunities and to be kept informed when future campaigns are opened, please email: DESSMF-BMSpt1@mod.uk, including “Successor Recruitment” within the subject line.
https://www.gov.uk/successor-submarine-recruitment
Successor submarine recruitment
The Successor submarine programme will deliver the replacement for the Vanguard fleet of nuclear submarines
Contents
Man's most complex machine
The role of the Ministry of Defence
Work for us
Job roles and location
See more like this
The Astute SubmarineMan’s most complex machine
The project has now exited the concept design phase with the broad configuration of the submarine and its systems now understood. Work has now begun on the detailed design which will further develop the conceptual solution into a detailed suite of information ready for manufacture.
It is the most complex and high value engineering programme underway anywhere within the United Kingdom. The complexity of the technology and costs involved dwarf those of the London 2012 Olympics Infrastructure Programme. Some £900 million was spent developing the submarine concept design and up to £3 billion will be spent developing the detailed designs and ordering long lead items before a final ‘Main Gate’ investment decision is taken in 2016. As previously announced to Parliament, the final cost of the replacement deterrent programme is expected to be some £15-20 billion at 2006/2007 prices.
Some 1,500+ project management, commercial and engineering professionals are now working on Successor within the first tier of suppliers reporting directly to the Ministry of Defence. Large numbers of high value contracts have already been let by these major suppliers and the pace and scale of the work within industry is set to increase rapidly over the coming years.
Put simply, a nuclear submarine is the most complex machine ever conceived and constructed by man. It is totally self-sufficient in terms of air, water, power and all the other life support services required to sustain the crew for several months at a time and comprises some of the most sensitive national security technology available within the UK.
Computer generated image of the Astute Class SubmarineThe role of the Ministry of Defence
Recognising the scale of the challenge and the technical risk associated with the programme, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) has adopted a different approach for managing the design of the submarine from that applied to the Astute Class. An Integrated Programme Management Team has been established which involves MOD in the day to day running of the project at both a tactical and strategic level. Furthermore, MOD has retained the design authority function ‘in-house’ and is therefore heavily reliant on a small number of highly qualified and experienced engineering personnel to make significant design decisions and approve the designs generated within industry.
As such, the team managing the project are required to become more heavily involved in the engineering design, agreement of technical and capability requirements, and management of budgets and programme schedules than would normally be the case for a procuring organisation. This places additional demands on the professionalism and engineering or project management competence of the individuals within the project team.
Royal Navy submarine HMS Astute sails up the Clyde estuaryWork for us
As the pace of the programme increases,MOD is seeking additional high calibre engineers and project managers to join this high tech and exciting project to lead the programme through to the ‘Main Gate’ investment decision and beyond. In recognition of the coming challenge up to an additional twenty roles have been created to focus across a range of technical and programme management disciplines. For the technical roles, previous submarine or maritime design experience is desirable but not a prerequisite, although an ability to work independently, challenge the status quo and make complex judgments based on incomplete information is essential.
We therefore offer a unique opportunity to work on the biggest and most complex engineering programme underway in the UK. We continue to stretch the boundaries of technological achievement whilst challenging ourselves to deliver value for money and capabilities in support of UK national security objectives. We are offering both rewarding and challenging careers and a range of benefits beyond salary which are amongst the most competitive in the current UK employment market. In return for the commitment and dedication that we expect, we can offer a rewarding and structured environment for the future.
Escorted by tugs, Royal Navy submarine HMS Astute sails up the Clyde estuaryJob roles and location
A range of opportunities are available across both engineering and programme or project management focused roles. The opportunities fall across three grades – B2 / Grade 7 (internal applicants only – 1 role), C1 / SEO (approximately 5 roles) and C2 / HEO (approximately 15 roles) and a separate job requisition exists for each grade. See How to apply.
A number of the opportunities would be suitable for candidates without an engineering background. The roles fall into the following broad areas. Expected grades of the posts have also been provided although the exact distribution of grades and job roles will be agreed as part of the selection process.
•B2 (internal only): Engineering System Owner for Secondary Propulsion (see Civil Service Jobs Requisition)
•C1/C2: Engineering and project management of submarine subsystems in the electrical, mechanical, propulsion, combat systems, strategic weapons system and naval architecture teams
•C2: Programme and delivery management responsibility for those items of equipment provided into the industrial programme by the UK government
•C2: Delivery of support and advice relating to the build ability and spatial arrangement of the submarine design; submarine operating experience would be useful in the latter area
•C1/C2: Responsibility within the safety and assurance teams with a focus on quality management, information assurance or environmental engineering
•C1: Responsibility for functional integration across boat systems
•C2: Management of the accumulation of the engineering evidence necessary to support the main investment business case in support of the Main Gate investment decision expected in 2016
•C2: Dedicated roles relating to corrosion management, supportability, survivability and other specialist monitoring systems unique to submarines
•C1/C2: “Chief of Staff” type support to senior engineering managers with an emphasis on financial reporting, team planning and coordination, documentation review and resource management
Individuals applying through the Civil Service Jobs system will be considered against the full range of roles available at each grade, however, applicants are encouraged to specify a preference within their application relating to the opportunities outlined above. Those applying for the Band C1 (Grade 8 / SEO) roles ‘may’ also be considered for suitability at Band C2 (Grade 9 / HEO) if found to be unsuitable at the higher grade and if opportunities remain at the lower grade once specific applicants to that grade have already been selected. Applicants may apply to more than one requisition.
The MOD project team is based and managed from Bristol, however, many individuals are permanently based at the premises of the main industrial contractor in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria. Roles are therefore available in both Bristol and Barrow and a final decision will be made following a discussion between the prospective line manager and the individual. A location preference may be specified within the application.
Rewards and benefits
A competitive package of benefits is being offered including a generous defined benefit pension scheme, flexible working arrangements, and excellent training and career development opportunities. The salary at B2 / Grade 7 (internal applicants only) is £47,942 - £57,245; at C1 / SEO it is £35,648 - £42,565 and at C2 / HEO it is £29,258 - £34,936. Additional retention allowances may be available for some specialist roles once the required experience and training criteria have been met. For internal applicants, relocation expenses may be available for those wishing to relocate to Barrow although this requires formal agreement internally before it can be offered. For external applicants a ‘new starter’ package may be available.
Astute class submarine HMS Ambush is pictured during sea trials near ScotlandFurther information
For further information on current opportunities and to be kept informed when future campaigns are opened, please email: DESSMF-BMSpt1@mod.uk, including “Successor Recruitment” within the subject line.
https://www.gov.uk/successor-submarine-recruitment
dark_lotus 发表于 2013-7-23 10:24
1000亿英镑相当于万亿软妹币。2012中国的军费是7000亿软妹币吧，所以说相当于是没错的。
2000-3000亿也是一笔 巨大的数字啊， 不能就这么随便抹了吧。
1000亿英镑相当于万亿软妹币。2012中国的军费是7000亿软妹币吧，所以说相当于是没错的。
2000-3000亿也是一笔 巨大的数字啊， 不能就这么随便抹了吧。
蛋总 发表于 2013-7-23 09:44
1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支 -------------介个是 肿么算的？
这个数差不多
1000亿英镑相当于 2012年中国全年的军费开支 -------------介个是 肿么算的？
这个数差不多
蛋总 发表于 2013-7-23 10:42
2000-3000亿也是一笔 巨大的数字啊， 不能就这么随便抹了吧。
有个名词叫做预算外支出
不过这样庞大的计划需要持续二三十年吧？花这么多钱和这么长时间来完成一个现有核力量增强版？真有这个必要吗？不如就在现有核力量上改进，又省钱又可靠。。。。。。
2000-3000亿也是一笔 巨大的数字啊， 不能就这么随便抹了吧。
有个名词叫做预算外支出
不过这样庞大的计划需要持续二三十年吧？花这么多钱和这么长时间来完成一个现有核力量增强版？真有这个必要吗？不如就在现有核力量上改进，又省钱又可靠。。。。。。
有个名词叫做预算外支出
不过这样庞大的计划需要持续二三十年吧？花这么多钱和这么长时间来完成 ...
对英国来说这可是底裤，不能乱脱的，没看毛子最困顿的时候白杨系列导弹也没停么？
不过这样庞大的计划需要持续二三十年吧？花这么多钱和这么长时间来完成 ...
对英国来说这可是底裤，不能乱脱的，没看毛子最困顿的时候白杨系列导弹也没停么？
bae整合美英两国的军工企业 下一步就是整合欧洲的军工企业 然后就是远征星辰大海了
那他可真NB大发了……
那他可真NB大发了……
lancer27 发表于 2013-7-23 01:19
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
人家后台硬啊
BAE这是杀鸡取卵啊。航母也是它的，台风也是它的，独食吃成这样，何必如此啊？
人家后台硬啊
sisuloser 发表于 2013-7-23 06:06
一个年军费400多亿英镑的国家，花1000亿来搞这个项目，这是一种怎样的精神？
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财政局公务员，可能你并不知道一个事实：兔子一半税收用来养活700万公务员和4400万事业单位人员 这还不包括庞大的三公费。。兔子经济如果不能维持7%以上的增长率就会衰退 因为每年需要创造1400万个就业岗位 如果保持不了7% 失业人口会迅速增加 社会动荡不安。所以裤衩要一半红一半白好 别太红了
一个年军费400多亿英镑的国家，花1000亿来搞这个项目，这是一种怎样的精神？
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财政局公务员，可能你并不知道一个事实：兔子一半税收用来养活700万公务员和4400万事业单位人员 这还不包括庞大的三公费。。兔子经济如果不能维持7%以上的增长率就会衰退 因为每年需要创造1400万个就业岗位 如果保持不了7% 失业人口会迅速增加 社会动荡不安。所以裤衩要一半红一半白好 别太红了
嘻嘻哈哈恰恰 发表于 2013-7-23 22:51
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财 ...
兄逮，我是CD新人，对于军事基本盲目，所以这块我不敢多说。
但是对于经济这块，你就别来造谣了。我了解得太多。
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财 ...
兄逮，我是CD新人，对于军事基本盲目，所以这块我不敢多说。
但是对于经济这块，你就别来造谣了。我了解得太多。
同样是通过一个有争议的提案，在皿诅国家叫力排众议，在土鳖这就是毒菜砖痣，穷兵渎武，laominsangca
这该死的手机输入法，我就去了，还不能编辑
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财 ...
上次才有个人说兔子一半开支要用来维稳，你一下把剩下一半也用掉了，原来兔子财政开支就干这两件事呀。不知道军费修路等等钱哪来的
上次才有个人说兔子一半开支要用来维稳，你一下把剩下一半也用掉了，原来兔子财政开支就干这两件事呀。不知道军费修路等等钱哪来的
没钱难办事啊
天行贱 发表于 2013-7-24 00:54
上次才有个人说兔子一半开支要用来维稳，你一下把剩下一半也用掉了，原来兔子财政开支就干这两件事呀。不 ...
我说的是实情，一半维稳是他们编造出来的。
上次才有个人说兔子一半开支要用来维稳，你一下把剩下一半也用掉了，原来兔子财政开支就干这两件事呀。不 ...
我说的是实情，一半维稳是他们编造出来的。
sisuloser 发表于 2013-7-23 23:58
兄逮，我是CD新人，对于军事基本盲目，所以这块我不敢多说。
但是对于经济这块，你就别来造谣了。我了 ...
那再等三年 你再来挖这个坟贴。
兄逮，我是CD新人，对于军事基本盲目，所以这块我不敢多说。
但是对于经济这块，你就别来造谣了。我了 ...
那再等三年 你再来挖这个坟贴。
土鳖要能狠下心砸个1000亿英镑（约莫9000亿人民币），说不定军用民用核能事业、连带相关冶金、锻铸、阀门等等，都能全行业突破。
嘻嘻哈哈恰恰 发表于 2013-7-24 08:57
那再等三年 你再来挖这个坟贴。
没兴趣，你继续造谣就是了，我就当没看见，
那再等三年 你再来挖这个坟贴。
没兴趣，你继续造谣就是了，我就当没看见，
嘻嘻哈哈恰恰 发表于 2013-7-24 08:56
我说的是实情，一半维稳是他们编造出来的。
实情，呵呵，你自己去看财政部网站，又不是没有开支明细
我说的是实情，一半维稳是他们编造出来的。
实情，呵呵，你自己去看财政部网站，又不是没有开支明细
嘻嘻哈哈恰恰 发表于 2013-7-23 22:51
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财 ...
现在三公没有那么多了吧！我有几个亲戚都在不同城市的事业单位，都说从去年开始他们部门都不敢公款吃喝了，年底的聚餐都没有，公款旅游这些也没有了。
兔子军费一个世纪以来才超过牛牛两三年就开始嘲笑牛牛了。 牛牛再怎么破 高福利高收入摆在那里。 我是财 ...
现在三公没有那么多了吧！我有几个亲戚都在不同城市的事业单位，都说从去年开始他们部门都不敢公款吃喝了，年底的聚餐都没有，公款旅游这些也没有了。
lzg516600 发表于 2013-7-24 23:08
现在三公没有那么多了吧！我有几个亲戚都在不同城市的事业单位，都说从去年开始他们部门都不敢公款吃喝了 ...
我本人就是事业单位，现在上面查的严 下面不敢在外面大酒店吃喝 不过领导有秘密场所。其实公务员和事业单位 一般职工没有多少油水。但个干部或者手里稍有点权力 那是极其腐败 本人感同身受不便多说
现在三公没有那么多了吧！我有几个亲戚都在不同城市的事业单位，都说从去年开始他们部门都不敢公款吃喝了 ...
我本人就是事业单位，现在上面查的严 下面不敢在外面大酒店吃喝 不过领导有秘密场所。其实公务员和事业单位 一般职工没有多少油水。但个干部或者手里稍有点权力 那是极其腐败 本人感同身受不便多说
天行贱 发表于 2013-7-24 15:14
实情，呵呵，你自己去看财政部网站，又不是没有开支明细
随便你吧。我是在乡镇基层工作的 上面拨下来的款 比如地方财政支援村镇修建基础设施或扶贫补助 层层盘剥 基本上县 乡 镇都会克扣。虽然财政数字上面没有那么夸张 到最下面就不一样了。很多村支书都无奈抱怨公款被截留 其实我相信就算到村支书手里 他们一样会截留。缺乏一个整体的监督系统是滋生腐败的根源
实情，呵呵，你自己去看财政部网站，又不是没有开支明细
随便你吧。我是在乡镇基层工作的 上面拨下来的款 比如地方财政支援村镇修建基础设施或扶贫补助 层层盘剥 基本上县 乡 镇都会克扣。虽然财政数字上面没有那么夸张 到最下面就不一样了。很多村支书都无奈抱怨公款被截留 其实我相信就算到村支书手里 他们一样会截留。缺乏一个整体的监督系统是滋生腐败的根源
个人觉得根本就没必要换了三叉戟...三叉戟又不算很老 而且性能还算强悍 干嘛非要这么快换这就是皇家海军，在底线问题上，从不让步
dark_lotus 发表于 2013-7-23 10:24
1000亿英镑相当于万亿软妹币。2012中国的军费是7000亿软妹币吧，所以说相当于是没错的。
只是不知道七千亿和万亿是怎么相当的！ 体育老师教数学的孩子伤不起呀
1000亿英镑相当于万亿软妹币。2012中国的军费是7000亿软妹币吧，所以说相当于是没错的。
只是不知道七千亿和万亿是怎么相当的！ 体育老师教数学的孩子伤不起呀
绿林奸汉 发表于 2013-7-24 09:05
土鳖要能狠下心砸个1000亿英镑（约莫9000亿人民币），说不定军用民用核能事业、连带相关冶金、锻铸、阀门等 ...
好像砸了两万亿建铁路最后只揪出个刘志军。
土鳖要能狠下心砸个1000亿英镑（约莫9000亿人民币），说不定军用民用核能事业、连带相关冶金、锻铸、阀门等 ...
好像砸了两万亿建铁路最后只揪出个刘志军。
sisuloser 发表于 2013-7-23 06:06
一个年军费400多亿英镑的国家，花1000亿来搞这个项目，这是一种怎样的精神？
没事，还有个大英博物 馆呢，如果卖 掉，至少够造二十条鱼
一个年军费400多亿英镑的国家，花1000亿来搞这个项目，这是一种怎样的精神？
没事，还有个大英博物 馆呢，如果卖 掉，至少够造二十条鱼